JSS is not a Perry Clone ! Geesh !!!

[conversationpc]

You're not being your own man if you're using perryisms. He's already singing the songs Perry's voice made hits. To copy his inflections is a bit much.

You're telling me that after he's been in the business for some 20 years and virtually unknown, he's going to become an overnight sensation by covering JGH with Perry overtones?

Please. You are not in Journey's demographic anymore. You will never be happy with them unless Perry comes back. That's obvious.

And JSS has been in the industry for over 20 years, so stop saying "overnight sensation".

Cmon Nig he's/she's tecnically right about this point,Soto never made it in the states in 20 years the only reason most of us here know him is because of Andrews site and the people in the states that dont know about Andrews site have no clue who Soto is

Yngwie's band was quite popular during the mid 80s while Soto was in the band. He certainly wasn't a household name then since Yngwie was the main star in that band but he played to some pretty big crowds at the time. Then again, he isn't really likely to be as much of a household name even now with Journey.

[conversationpc]

You're not being your own man if you're using perryisms. He's already singing the songs Perry's voice made hits. To copy his inflections is a bit much.

You're telling me that after he's been in the business for some 20 years and virtually unknown, he's going to become an overnight sensation by covering JGH with Perry overtones?

Please. You are not in Journey's demographic anymore. You will never be happy with them unless Perry comes back. That's obvious.

And JSS has been in the industry for over 20 years, so stop saying "overnight sensation".

Cmon Nig he's/she's tecnically right about this point,Soto never made it in the states in 20 years the only reason most of us here know him is because of Andrews site and the people in the states that dont know about Andrews site have no clue who Soto is

I've known who he is from his Yngwie days in the '80's. Only hausfraus and Yanni fans don't know of him.

[Red13JoePa]

I found out who he was when RockStar came out, his songs were the reason I got the Sdtk.

[yulog]

Sir Soto does a fine job at defending his own honor here.
He comes around cuz he chooses to and not you me or the
Queen could sway the choice he makes.
On the other hand he can make a difference in
what others think.....by continuing to give his all
and sing his balls off, those that are open to it will
take pleasure in the performance.
Those that are closed minded and only have tastes
for Augeri or Perry are missing out on the music that's
being crafted once again......they're loss.

This is interesting Moonie but i wonder how many of these type comments were made when Augeri came on board

[heardonthestreet]

You're not being your own man if you're using perryisms. He's already singing the songs Perry's voice made hits. To copy his inflections is a bit much.

You're telling me that after he's been in the business for some 20 years and virtually unknown, he's going to become an overnight sensation by covering JGH with Perry overtones?

Please. You are not in Journey's demographic anymore. You will never be happy with them unless Perry comes back. That's obvious.

And JSS has been in the industry for over 20 years, so stop saying "overnight sensation".

Cmon Nig he's/she's tecnically right about this point,Soto never made it in the states in 20 years the only reason most of us here know him is because of Andrews site and the people in the states that dont know about Andrews site have no clue who Soto is

I've known who he is from his Yngwie days in the '80's. Only hausfraus and Yanni fans don't know of him.

............................

That just makes you somewhat unique, Nig.

[yulog]

The only thing people remember about yngvie is yngvie it was all about his guitar skills not the singers and that was 20+ yrs ago and yngvie wasnt even that big. He was in the game but not really so many bands overshadowed him. The average person doesnt know about the singer that sang for 1 album maybe 2 in a band that was barely known and then known only for its guitar player. Ive never heard anything from Yanni but i know who he is and i know hes huge in the states for what he does which is the opposite of JSS--i would have never known who he was if i didnt come to this site and i have a huge collection of music, literally thousands of cds.

[heardonthestreet]

Not to change the subject but speaking of guitars. I just added "Live Cream" to my record album collection. My God! Clapton at his best. Anybody have it?

[NealIsGod]

Not to change the subject but speaking of guitars. I just added "Live Cream" to my record album collection. My God! Clapton at his best. Anybody have it?

I'll bet that's the first live cream you've gotten in quite a long time.

Sorry, TNC. Beat you to it.

[Red13JoePa]

BTW, Clapton: Big Neal fan, not so sure about vice-versa anymore.

[Liz22562]

Awww Niggy....did you have too?????

[heardonthestreet]

Reminds me of a joke.

What's white and streaks across the sky?

[brywool]

So by your logic, I guess since Perry has alot of Sam Cooke-ism's he isn't his own man either.... brilliant logic you have *roll eyes*

Actually, I kind of agree with this. EVERY lick Perry has done, was done by Sam first. Perry's inflections, Perry's runs are Sam runs without a doubt. I have a TON of Sam Cooke music and it's undeniable. However, that doesn't make Perry suck or unoriginal because he used them quite differently than Sam did. Steve also has a larger range than Sam.

Listen to Sam's "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love" and "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'". TELL me Perry didn't blatantly steal the first line from Sam. He TOTALLY ripped it off. But it doesn't ruin it. Just like Petty stole Roger McGuinn's style who stole Dylan's style. That's what Rock does.

Jeff sounds NOTHING like Perry if you ask me.

[Deb]

...Perry covers Cooke would make commercial sense and it would bring a stunning career to a fitting end.

Amen styxman.......that I would love to hear.

[Red13JoePa]

Reminds me of a joke.

What's white and streaks across the sky?

Dunno.


Er, .... hey, Yak you wanna weigh in on this?

[brywool]

Agree, I think a covers record of any kind would move more units than an original record unfortunately.
Stewart saw the light after the Human bust and he's guffawing all the way to the bank now, 5 covers albums later.

NO COVERS!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm SO sick of covers. I want to hear NEW stuff. Styx did that covers album... what a dissapointment after Cyclo.
Shaw/Blades are doing one. WHY?
Others too.

I WOULD like to hear Perry cover Sam, but make them Bsides or something. If I want Sam songs, I'll put on Sam records.

The LAST thing in the world I want is to wait YEARS for Perry to come out with an album and then find I already have the songs...

[yulog]

Not to change the subject but speaking of guitars. I just added "Live Cream" to my record album collection. My God! Clapton at his best. Anybody have it?

I'll bet that's the first live cream you've gotten in quite a long time.

Sorry, TNC. Beat you to it.

[Deb]

I look at it this way...

For 25 years I have been singing along to Journey tunes in my car, at home, in the shower and, when I do, I use the same inflections and Perry-isms too because THATS WHAT I GREW UP LISTENING TO 1000 TIMES. Granted I sound like shit because I am not nor never will have the vocal powers of Perry but you get my point. Those "isms" just become natural from listening so many times and being a FAN.

Jeff has commented time and time again that Perry was a HUGE influence on him and that he has nothing but the upmost respect for him. He is a FAN... has probably sang along to these tunes in the car or in the shower 1000 times over and, like the rest of us, the so-called "isms" are probably just natural.

Just my 2 piddly cents

Bang on Carlitto, exactly!

[JSS]

You're not being your own man if you're using perryisms. He's already singing the songs Perry's voice made hits. To copy his inflections is a bit much.

You're telling me that after he's been in the business for some 20 years and virtually unknown, he's going to become an overnight sensation by covering JGH with Perry overtones?

So this is your idea of being critical yet kind...hmmm, I guess I was right in my other post, glad I made it!

[Dyzzi]

You're not being your own man if you're using perryisms. He's already singing the songs Perry's voice made hits. To copy his inflections is a bit much.

You're telling me that after he's been in the business for some 20 years and virtually unknown, he's going to become an overnight sensation by covering JGH with Perry overtones?

So this is your idea of being critical yet kind...hmmm, I guess I was right in my other post, glad I made it!

Wowwwww JSS where do you get the time to post on here when your touring ???? Well i'm looking forard to seeing in the UK next march..Keep it up

[styxman]

Agree, I think a covers record of any kind would move more units than an original record unfortunately.
Stewart saw the light after the Human bust and he's guffawing all the way to the bank now, 5 covers albums later.

NO COVERS!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm SO sick of covers. I want to hear NEW stuff. Styx did that covers album... what a dissapointment after Cyclo.
Shaw/Blades are doing one. WHY?
Others too.

I WOULD like to hear Perry cover Sam, but make them Bsides or something. If I want Sam songs, I'll put on Sam records.

The LAST thing in the world I want is to wait YEARS for Perry to come out with an album and then find I already have the songs...

The Styx covers wasn't that bad a listen, the DL covers is what's given this type of project a bad name, nothin' can redeem that pile of shit.

My better half is a Cooke fanatic, melody this and melody that, that's all I get when we argued who gets to listen to what on the car CD, all my music was deemed meaningless That is until I loaded the Perry CD in the car one day, Oh Sherrie, nope she didn't like that and the next and the next, then on comes when you're in love (for the first time) and Summer of Love she absolutely loves those tracks and makes comparrisons with Cooke each time they come on. Melody which you'd think she'd like....no turn Cooke back on when that starts
So that got me thinking, someone who wouldn't give Journey & Journey/Perry a look in, will if the right track is stumbled on. So if Perry did a Cooke covers..Totally Cooke, nothin' else and even went as far to get JSS to guest and sing a tune of his choice from the catalogue this would be the biggest selling CD of Perry's career, no argument...........and he'd be thrust into the mainstream like nothin' else, which in itself would also benefit the guys in Journey...it would be a sure thing. He won't do it but fuck he should.

[JSS]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain...& hitting ALL the notes, my God, you really won't be satisfied until it sounds EXACTLY like the record will you? It never will, it's live, every night it changes, some better, some worse, some identical. It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to read the criticism you give, yet every other singer who sings their own stuff live, me included, is excused when they don't nail it just like the album or an 'amazing live show selected for release because it was a good night or compilation of several nights'.

Ah well, can't please em all, I'm still here aint I?

He doesn't have to be a Perry clone. He DOES have to be able to hit the notes.
With the Hollywood Bowl boot, it sounds like he's getting closer and better all the time. Cool. I was incredibly skeptical from everything I've heard. The HB recording gives me hope that this will be a good transition. Still some rough spots, but NOTHING like the little Elf that jumped out on Be Good To Yourself from ealier in the tour. THAT scared the shit outta me. (Sorry Jeff).

I haven't heard JSS copying the inflections. I have heard him do some of the standard Perry stage stuff

Anyway you Want it: JSS- "All Night" Audience "All Night"
Don't Stop Believing before the guitar break, he does the Perry "NEAL!"

Pretty miniscule stuff to be bitching about. Who cares? That's all I've noticed. I'll be happy if he hits the notes and helps the band to grow. I've been pretty skeptical so far just because his voice 'doesn't sound like Journey' to me. In fact, there are spots where he jumps into Metal Mode that I cringe at, but at least the notes are correct. I'm just not a Metal guy. I wasn't into Sammy when he first joined Van Halen either. It took me till the second album with him. I WAS into Augeri the second he joined Journey though. His banter, though subdued always felt genuine rather than the 'stock lines'. He also had more range and was smoother when he joined. He was like Escape and Prior Perry. Not Frontiers and Rough Perry. Seemed a much easier transition. Things change though.

It's cool though that THIS time, Journey is touring FIRST and recording later. That will give JSS a chance to iron out the kinks and find his niche with Journey.

Let him find his way...
I'll still be pissing and moaning about blown vocal parts live, but me doing that will change nothing. If things keep going as they are, things will be fine.

In the words of Steve Perry: "Playing live means never having to say you're sorry!" True.

[ohsherrie]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain...& hitting ALL the notes, my God, you really won't be satisfied until it sounds EXACTLY like the record will you? It never will, it's live, every night it changes, some better, some worse, some identical. It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to read the criticism you give, yet every other singer who sings their own stuff live, me included, is excused when they don't nail it just like the album or an 'amazing live show selected for release because it was a good night or compilation of several nights'.

Ah well, can't please em all, I'm still here aint I?

Yes and I'm glad you are. Steve Perry never hit every note on every night either. No one does, it's not possible. If you sounded just like the record you'd be accused of cloning, so just keep doing what you're doing. Most of us appreciate it.

[NealIsGod]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain...& hitting ALL the notes, my God, you really won't be satisfied until it sounds EXACTLY like the record will you? It never will, it's live, every night it changes, some better, some worse, some identical. It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to read the criticism you give, yet every other singer who sings their own stuff live, me included, is excused when they don't nail it just like the album or an 'amazing live show selected for release because it was a good night or compilation of several nights'.

Ah well, can't please em all, I'm still here aint I?

Here to Stay, to use a favorite album title of mine.

[Deb]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain

Well, to be honest Jeff, you weren't running the whole time......there is a pic of you actually laying down on the job! Sorry, but you left that wide open.

[styxman]

Listen Jeff as you're here hunting HOTS, answer this for me inbetween...if you had to pick one Cooke track to cover, which one would it be

[Clasicrockldy]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain...& hitting ALL the notes, my God, you really won't be satisfied until it sounds EXACTLY like the record will you? It never will, it's live, every night it changes, some better, some worse, some identical. It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to read the criticism you give, yet every other singer who sings their own stuff live, me included, is excused when they don't nail it just like the album or an 'amazing live show selected for release because it was a good night or compilation of several nights'.

Ah well, can't please em all, I'm still here aint I?

If ya want it to sound exactly like the record, then play the damn record then ! Sheesh ! All this complaining is crazy!

You cannot expect for Journey today to sound like Journey of the 80's. It just isn't possble anymore. Hell, it is 20 odd years later. Things change, life changes, Journey changes. Either accept where the band is heading now, or don't. But the constant bitching, whining, complaining isn't going to change anything.

[The Ghost Rider]

Ah well, can't please em all,

Exactly. And as long as you don't start trying to, you're good to go.

[Greg]

Rough spots? Try running back & forth on a skating rink stage trying to entertain...& hitting ALL the notes, my God, you really won't be satisfied until it sounds EXACTLY like the record will you? It never will, it's live, every night it changes, some better, some worse, some identical. It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to read the criticism you give, yet every other singer who sings their own stuff live, me included, is excused when they don't nail it just like the album or an 'amazing live show selected for release because it was a good night or compilation of several nights'.

Ah well, can't please em all, I'm still here aint I?

....And believe me, if there was someone better than JSS singing for Journey at this point, that person would be in that spot and not Jeff.

[Deb]

Listen Jeff as you're here hunting HOTS, answer this for me inbetween...if you had to pick one Cooke track to cover, which one would it be

Good question, would love to know the answer to that one too.

[styxman]

Shake