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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:13 am

Go to DL's official site, click "Diaries" and then the "You say Tomatoe" link...
JE gives his take on Andrew and the Hollywood Bowl stuff...

And there reporting is wrong!

JE claims Andrew put a half-hearted apology online AFTER the Bowl...

That was up before Andrew even left!!!

It's a fun read !
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Postby dcvader » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:24 am

I'll go with Andrew's version.
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:27 am

dcvader wrote:I'll go with Andrew's version.


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Postby rtz » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:28 am

Wow. For something that Joe claims is no big deal, he spent a lot of time and space on that response. I still think the "YEAH" album blows chunks. I'm glad they only played one or two tracks from it on this tour. And "Rock On" IS horrible, no matter who sings it.
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Postby Wally_Hatchet » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:29 am

JE is a total ass and I lost whatever respect I had left for him.

...and their music since pyromania SUCKS!
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Postby Eric » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:45 am

Wally_Hatchet wrote:JE is a total ass and I lost whatever respect I had left for him.

...and their music since pyromania SUCKS!


I loved Euphoria and X.

I hate covers in general.

I'll take Andrew's word......all day long
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Postby whocares » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:45 am

I Said / You Said...

No matter who's "side" one is on, Joe makes himself look like a pompous ARSE, while at the same time, getting free publicity for Melodicrock.com thrown in for good measure. Either way, Andy smells like a frickin' rose garden.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:50 am

All this over a review of an album? Sheesh ! Joe needs to grow up and take the lumps. Not all album reviewers are going to give you a glowing report! :roll:
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Postby ArnelRox » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:06 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:All this over a review of an album? Sheesh ! Joe needs to grow up and take the lumps. Not all album reviewers are going to give you a glowing report! :roll:


Well said. I won't be sticking around for their part of the show on 11/7.
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:08 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:All this over a review of an album? Sheesh ! Joe needs to grow up and take the lumps. Not all album reviewers are going to give you a glowing report! :roll:


I am sure it sucks just as bad as it did when Andrew first heard it.
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Postby Andrew » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:23 am

Thanks folks....

It's all good. I don't have the time, or energy to respond yet again. I'm over it...
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:41 am

Take it as a complement Andrew. You're opinion must carry some weight if he's that worried about it. :wink:
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:49 am

After seeing Joe's other responses I find it hard to believe he wrote this himself...
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Postby Just Mindy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:04 pm

Clasicrockldy wrote:All this over a review of an album? Sheesh ! Joe needs to grow up and take the lumps. Not all album reviewers are going to give you a glowing report! :roll:
Exactly. Wonder what the other reviews were like? Seems to be a sore subject with JE :?
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:14 pm

i refuse to read it,, its garbage and it would just upset me, and i might not be able to eat my midnight 3000 calarie snack!! :evil:
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Postby Calbear94 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:22 pm

Did Andrew really say boring as bat shit? I'm no fan of Def Leppard, but that's harsh. Many artists do take reviews personal (had someone said this about TOTO, Lukather might have re-interpreted this comment as 'die motherfucker, die.')
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Postby Andrew » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:45 pm

I did say that - about the song 'Rock On' at least. Horrible. On the other hand, I said Waterloo Sunset was quite superb - which it is :)
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Postby T-Bone » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:13 am

Leave it to Joe to shift blame back Andrews way. :roll:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:53 am

In hindsight it's easy for Elliot to take the attitued, "I was there, I woulda met with Andrew, he knows what I look like and could've grabbed me."

However, knowing the way he absolutely FLIPPED OUT over this thing, If I don't blame Andrew for being cautious. You have to go to one of his yes men first or risk a potentially extremely negative reaction from Joe
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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:21 am

rtz wrote:Wow. For something that Joe claims is no big deal, he spent a lot of time and space on that response. I still think the "YEAH" album blows chunks. I'm glad they only played one or two tracks from it on this tour. And "Rock On" IS horrible, no matter who sings it.


This could be the worst song in the history
of Rock"n"Roll for me.

I read what JE had to say and he comes off rude
and asslike, Andrew you should be proud of the way
you handled yourself, good on ya Sir. :wink:
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:43 am

Seems that Joe wasted an awful lot of keystrokes on something that he doesn't care about :?
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Postby LisaMarie » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:33 am

I didn't see anything wrong with what Joe Elliot said. He was just telling his side of the story. Nothing wrong with that. I didn't see him as being arrogant or anything.

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Postby Blueskies » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:47 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:i refuse to read it,, its garbage and it would just upset me, and i might not be able to eat my midnight 3000 calarie snack!! :evil:
Larry you crack me up!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby yulog » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:17 am

Theres 3 sides to a story, in this case theres Andrew's, Joe's and the Truth both sides present a certain side of truth and the rest is what each side internalizes as being the truth. Both sides are wrong and both sides have elements of being correct .Even if "Rock on" sucks as a song(which i tend to agree-never liked this song) if they got it to reach number 1 for 5 weeks that says alot about what they did. It sure in hell helped them sell out various shows on the tour. When something goes number 1 people want to see that band -thats a given.
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Re: Joe's take on the Wombat...

Postby momto2 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:56 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Go to DL's official site, click "Diaries" and then the "You say Tomatoe" link...
JE gives his take on Andrew and the Hollywood Bowl stuff...

And there reporting is wrong!

JE claims Andrew put a half-hearted apology online AFTER the Bowl...

That was up before Andrew even left!!!

It's a fun read !


Actually what Joe said was
I heard he was going to be there, Jeff Scott Soto told me. I said to Jeff that if he wants to apologise for going 2 years early on a review for an album that wasn't even finished, that was the only way I would entertain any interaction. Miraculously, I'm told some sort of apology went out on his website a couple of days later!





I took that to mean that the apology appeared after Joe talked to Jeff, not after the Bowl.

All this over a review of an album? Sheesh ! Joe needs to grow up and take the lumps. Not all album reviewers are going to give you a glowing report


I think Joe makes it clear that it's not the negativity that upsets him, it's the fact that the review was of an unfinished product.
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Postby The Ghost Rider » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:04 am

Fuck Joe Elliot.


And that's all I have to say about that.
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Postby LisaMarie » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:04 am

The Confessor wrote:Fuck Joe Elliot.


And that's all I have to say about that.


Wow, that is mean. It is not that big of a deal.

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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:42 am

LisaMarie wrote:
The Confessor wrote:Fuck Joe Elliot.


And that's all I have to say about that.


Wow, that is mean. It is not that big of a deal.

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(JE's post)
"oh dear, oh dear, oh dear"...There he goes again.
It's all about me, me, me...seems to be his mantra......
"If he doesn't have the balls to aproach me that's
his problem, not mine".

But that doestn't sound mean or angry like to you?
Did you even read what was posted?
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Postby LisaMarie » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:37 am

Moon Beam wrote:
LisaMarie wrote:
The Confessor wrote:Fuck Joe Elliot.


And that's all I have to say about that.


Wow, that is mean. It is not that big of a deal.

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(JE's post)
"oh dear, oh dear, oh dear"...There he goes again.
It's all about me, me, me...seems to be his mantra......
"If he doesn't have the balls to aproach me that's
his problem, not mine".

But that doestn't sound mean or angry like to you?
Did you even read what was posted?


No, not really. And, yes I did read what was posted. Guess you have to look at the bigger picture to see where he is coming from. Plus, people seem to make things bigger than they really are on here. You know, the microscope thingy. Anyway, have a great weekend everyone! :D

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Postby brandonx76 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:46 pm

Interesting...Drew you did fly all the WAY there, shame it didn't happen. I DO find it hard to believe that Joe knew everything that went on backstage...I wonder what was said to Drew...some 'hangar-on' knew of the controversy and said something maybe?

Ahh well, no sweat off Drew's balls (I hope). I haven't heard jack-s#!@ from Def Leppard...at least people still make fun of Journey..lol
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