NO ONE DOES IT BETTER, or even close. Righteous review.

[Perry86fan]

Dude, you've become VERY anti-Perry as of late. What's up with that? I, like you, thought FTLOSM sucked too, but I see no reason to post weird pictures, even if I do agree to an extent.

It's not Perry, it's the gay hero worship shit. Oh my God Stevie the voice, he can do no wrong shit that I fucking hate. He hasn't recorded anything good in years. He was a fantastic singer, but it's just annoying.

Let me tell you this asshole .I DO not worship Mr P he is NOT my God .I love his voice and his music. His voive takes my soul to places i did not think anyone other than Elvis could. But Mr P takes it a bit deeper for me. So what if he has not recorded anything he has sang background and that is fine with me. Just maybe he can't sing the way he once did that is fine to.We all get old you know. But i feel very sure he still has it he dose for me. He can do worng as we all do it all the time. That is why we are human here. Yes he was and will always be a great singer.And for the record i loved FTLOSM . Boy i feel like Deano now.lololol But he would not have been as nice with it.

[AR]

Let me tell you this asshole .I DO not worship Mr P he is NOT my God .I love his voice and his music. His voive takes my soul to places i did not think anyone other than Elvis could. But Mr P takes it a bit deeper for me. So what if he has not recorded anything he has sang background and that is fine with me. Just maybe he can't sing the way he once did that is fine to.We all get old you know. But i feel very sure he still has it he dose for me. He can do worng as we all do it all the time. That is why we are human here. Yes he was and will always be a great singer.And for the record i loved FTLOSM . Boy i feel like Deano now.lololol But he would not have been as nice with it.

Betcha you are fat.

And you fired the first shot before you go crying to your tub of Ben & Jerry's.

FTLOSM is a heaving pile of shit.

[TRAGChick]

Betcha you are fat.

There's absolutely NO REASON WHY you had to respond like that.

[AR]

Absoluely NO REASON for a response like that

She called me an asshole first.

And did not say she WAS, I just said I bet she was.

Tickets go on sale tomorrow for Steve Perry's fall tour. Go stand in line.

[fred_journeyman]

I was listening to Street Talk again this morning (yeah, I'm on that kick now for a bit) and I really like two of the new songs that were never released before - "My, My, My" and "Don't Make No Difference." Aside from those two songs being Journey-style songs, what I noticed in particular is how Perry's voice WAS/IS his instrument. He didn't just sing or hit notes. He FINESSED his way through a song!

There are/were great singers - Brad Delp, Steve Walsh and a bunch of others - but while many of them had phenomenal voices, Steve Perry's voice was/is simply incomparable!

[ohsherrie]

I was listening to Street Talk again this morning (yeah, I'm on that kick now for a bit) and I really like two of the new songs that were never released before - "My, My, My" and "Don't Make No Difference." Aside from those two songs being Journey-style songs, what I noticed in particular is how Perry's voice WAS/IS his instrument. He didn't just sing or hit notes. He FINESSED his way through a song!

There are/were great singers - Brad Delp, Steve Walsh and a bunch of others - but while many of them had phenomenal voices, Steve Perry's voice was/is simply incomparable!

Absolutely! Thanks for proving that it's not just fawning, drooling females that appreciate it.

[AR]

There are/were great singers - Brad Delp, Steve Walsh and a bunch of others - but while many of them had phenomenal voices, Steve Perry's voice was/is simply incomparable!

The difference being that the singers you mentioned can and do still sing. Pelican boy would rather have his bunch of house fraus sit around and finger themselves to his 20 year old recordings instead of manning up and doing something new.

He's a pussy basically.

[ArnelRox]

Absolutely! Thanks for proving that it's not just fawning, drooling females that appreciate it.

Sherrie u said it perfectly here.

[ArnelRox]

The difference being that the singers you mentioned can and do still sing. Pelican boy would rather have his bunch of house fraus sit around and finger themselves to his 20 year old recordings instead of manning up and doing something new.

He's a pussy basically.

This is ludicrous. If the guy doesn't want to sing anymore, why does he have to? Why does that make him a pussy? Who says he owes u, me or anyone else that? He did it for a while, did it well & got out of it. That's his perogative in life & he was smart enough to save enough cash so he didn't have to keep doing it when his passion for it went away. He obviously likes the remastering stuff he's been doing (obviously b/c he doesn't need the money, but does it anyway). Maybe that's where his thrills are now.

I could say I thought Ron Howard was a great actor in The Andy Griffith Show & call him a pussy for not acting now & according to ur logic that would be justified. Like Perry, he doesn't do the public thing (acting) anymore. He's "behind the scenes" & obviously that suits him better. He's directed some great movies that way. He doesn't owe me to act again just because I thought he was a cute Opie. I tried a different type of career for a while. I was real good at it. People still ask me to go back to that. I don't want to. I don't have to. Unfortunately I still have to work. If I didn't, I might sit on my ass & do nothing.

[AR]

This is ludicrous. If the guy doesn't want to sing anymore, why does he have to? Why does that make him a pussy? Who says he owes u, me or anyone else that? He did it for a while, did it well & got out of it. That's his perogative in life & he was smart enough to save enough cash so he didn't have to keep doing it when his passion for it went away. He obviously likes the remastering stuff he's been doing (obviously b/c he doesn't need the money, but does it anyway). Maybe that's where his thrills are now.

I could say I thought Ron Howard was a great actor in The Andy Griffith Show & call him a pussy for not acting now & according to ur logic that would be justified. Like Perry, he doesn't do the public thing (acting) anymore. He's "behind the scenes" & obviously that suits him better. He's directed some great movies that way. He doesn't owe me to act again just because I thought he was a cute Opie. I tried a different type of career for a while. I was real good at it. People still ask me to go back to that. I don't want to. I don't have to. Unfortunately I still have to work. If I didn't, I might sit on my ass & do nothing.

Because every one of his fag hags thinks he STILL can do it. Let him prove it then. I AM a fan of his, but these limp wristed posts about the "incomperable one", "the voice", etc are fucking gay. Perry was great, but I have tons more respect for equally great rock singers who can still answer the bell. Joe Lynn Turner, Robin Zander, Brad Delp, Ronnie Dio, Paul Rodgers and many more still are musicians that can deliver and do to this day. Different type of singers for sure, but equally great in their own rights.

Fuck Steve the Voice, and Stevie the Wiggle. Journey needs to be a ROCK band. The right ingredients are now in place.

If Perry had his way, Ask the Lonely would have been the last gasp of Journey. He's a selfish prick and I am calling him out. Continue your sickening hero worship.

[AR]

Shit I left out Soto's name on that list. My bad!

[larryfromnextdoor]

,, did someone say andy griffith?? now we are talking, andrew should have an all Andy catagory... how would everyone like them apples??

[ArnelRox]

Because every one of his fag hags thinks he STILL can do it. Let him prove it then.

Ur missing the point. Perry doesn't have to prove to anyone whether he can STILL do it or not. He already did it. Right now, it seems he doesn't want to STILL do it.

All we, his "fag hags", hope is that he will decide to do it again before he dies or we die. But if he doesn't want to do it, it really doesn't matter whether he can or not. That's up to him, not me, u or anyone else.

[AR]

But if he doesn't want to do it, it really doesn't matter whether he can or not. That's up to him, not me, u or anyone else.

I've said as much. Really no disagreement there. It IS his choice.

[ArnelRox]

I've said as much. Really no disagreement there. It IS his choice.

But if he doesn't want to, it doesn't make him a pussy as u call him. It just means he doesn't want to.

& IMHO it doesn't take away from what he has already done. If some scientist invents a cure for something & never leaves his house again for the rest of his life, he has still done a LOT & more than most people will ever do. Perry's vocal recordings are STILL outstanding & incomparable. Whether he ever chooses to do another one or not.

[AR]

But if he doesn't want to, it doesn't make him a pussy as u call him. It just means he doesn't want to.

Because of all the gay, flowery posts. Makes me want to vomit.

I have tons more respect for the great singers who still WANT to do it. All this "The Voice" and "Incomperable" bullshit is insulting to the singers who are his age or around it and still performing at an extremely high level. Fuck, Glen Hughes and Joe Lynn Turner spit out high level recordings every few months.

Steve Perry was great, but the best? Fuck no. For a period of time he may have been, but he loses out in the long run.

And so do WE for that matter. What a waste.

[ArnelRox]

I have tons more respect for the great singers who still WANT to do it.

So just b/c they still WANT to do this (or maybe even they NEED to do it to support their income) that makes them better than Perry?

Sorry but not to me. Perry doesn't owe me a thing. He did what he did. If he doesn't want to anymore it's none of my business. I know of a great research vet who came up w/all sorts of things to help animals w/diseases. He doesn't want to do it anymore. That doesn't make what he did anything less than brilliant. Sure it would be nice if he did it some more & discovered something else. But he doesn't owe me that or the animals. What he did saved a ton of lives & continues to do so. Sometimes that's enough. What Perry did brought a lot of joy to my ears & still does. That's enough for me.

[yak]

Absolutely! Thanks for proving that it's not just fawning, drooling females that appreciate it.

Sherrie u said it perfectly here.

Ohsherrie is one of the premier fawners of all time. She has salivated with the best of them. On her private board. Private board denotes of course that you wouldn't be privy to the real goings on.



Sickening hero worship? She and some of her gal pals took hero worship to an entirely new and unbelievable level! But, of course, you're not going to hear about that here....

[AR]

So just b/c they still WANT to do this (or maybe even they NEED to do it to support their income) that makes them better than Perry?

Some of them are better than Perry without longetivity. Perry was a fantastic singer, but singing higher isn't always better. Taste plays a part in it for sure. I take Paul Rodgers and Joe Lynn Turner over SP in a heartbeat because I prefer that style of singing. A lot more soul. And take those Sam Cooke references and flush them you know where.

Look, I like Perry. One of my favorites. But he hasn't done anything (minus Message of Love) in almost 20 years. I like Elvis too and he's dead.

[fred_journeyman]

Absolutely! Thanks for proving that it's not just fawning, drooling females that appreciate it.

I think Perry was a romantic at heart and probably still is, which is where I come from, which is why many of his songs simply hit me. Interestingly enough, I listed to that one unreleased song where he was very reminiscent of Sam Cooke, and while Perry definitely has the pipes, that particular song from him doesn't do anything for me. Then again, there were songs on Frontiers that didn't do anything for me.

I think the overall difference between Perry and many (not all) great singers is that he seemed to put much more emotion into the songs. That's just my take.

[AR]

Just too add, here are some of my favorite singers in no particular order. Feel free to agree or bash at will:

Robin Zander
Joe Lynn Turner
Glenn Hughes
Steve Perry (yes, I said it)
Paul Rodgers
Brad Delp
Steve Walsh
Dennis DeYoung
Paul Stanley
Ronnie James Dio
John Wetton
Phil Lynott
Phil Mogg
Danny Vaughn
Jeff Scott Soto
Elvis Presley
Jann Arden
Billy Joel
Dougie White
Daryl Hall
Ann Wilson

There are plenty more, this is off the top of my head.

Like them all for different reasons. Some are technically more proficient then others. I do not consider any of them to be "The incomperable, definitive voice". That is total arrogance. They are all great.

[fred_journeyman]

The difference being that the singers you mentioned can and do still sing. Pelican boy would rather have his bunch of house fraus sit around and finger themselves to his 20 year old recordings instead of manning up and doing something new.

To a point, yes. Delp can't hit the high notes anymore and has graciously given those sections over to Fran Cosmo. Others who still sing don't have the ultra-highs in them either.

He's a pussy basically.

Perry is a pussy? Because he doesn't want to produce anything new anymore? What if he just doesn't want to produce anything new anymore and that's the real reason he doesn't produce anything new? Granted, I do not believe that he can hit the highs like he once did and his voice is probably gravely like it was on TBF, but that's beside the point. There's a lot of music he COULD sing, if he wanted to.

Maybe he is just completely done with it. If he is, I'm sorry, but I can live with that. What I cannot live with is the same set of classic tunes played year after year at a Journey concert. So, really we could take your statement here - "...20 year old recordings instead of manning up and doing something new." and apply it to Journey. Yes, they've produced new music, but they've buckled when it came time to actually play it in concert. I realize it's a tough road, but Journey needs to forge ahead, or decide to completely stay where they are, because they really can't have it both ways...in my opinion (for what it's worth).

[AR]

Yes, they've produced new music, but they've buckled when it came time to actually play it in concert.

Yes and no. I liked some of Augeri's shows. They did buckle at the end though. But on the Arrival tour I saw 12 to 15,000 strong have no problem with what Journey was producing live. I would agree that they backed off the new material too soon however.

Delp can't hit the high notes anymore and has graciously given those sections over to Fran Cosmo. Others who still sing don't have the ultra-highs in them either.

Only sometimes. Delp still hits plenty of high notes. He does defer to Cosmo here and there. However Cosmo is more essential to replicating the double tracked vocals from the studio recording more than anything else. (Impressed?)

If Perry was in raspy mode. (Raspy = code word for "can't do it as well anymore, LOL) He could come back and have Deen back him. I would salute him for it. A band should be a TEAM anyway. Something SP has no clue about.

Good post Fred. I respect your views.

[ArnelRox]

Ohsherrie is one of the premier fawners of all time. She has salivated with the best of them. On her private board. Private board denotes of course that you wouldn't be privy to the real goings on.

Sickening hero worship? She and some of her gal pals took hero worship to an entirely new and unbelievable level! But, of course, you're not going to hear about that here....

Yak, w/all due respect, if that happened on a private board, shouldn't it stay private? What happened there shouldn't be brought here. If u were on that board, u were granted a privilege to the private things that went on there. But that was a privilege, not a right. If Sherrie wanted it public, she would have made it public. Since she didn't, I think it's best left private.

[ArnelRox]

Look, I like Perry. One of my favorites. But he hasn't done anything (minus Message of Love) in almost 20 years. I like Elvis too and he's dead.

Yeah and people still go to Graceland to worship him. What's ur point?

Seems like ur saying no one is any good unless they're still doing what they once did well. By ur logic, Sam Cooke sucks because he died. Elvis sucks because he died. Freddie Mercury sucks because he died. Bob Seger sucked for years because he didn't do new stuff. He just redeemed himself by coming out again. Christopher Reeve sucked in the years before he died because he couldn't play Superman anymore. A doctor who invents a cure for something when he's 20 & then switches careers sucks because he isn't a doctor anymore. Ron Howard sucks because he isn't playing Opie anymore. The list goes on.

Is no one allowed to exercise free will & change careers? If they do change their mind about what they want to do in life, everything they did up to that point sucks? That's very rigid isn't it?

From what u write, ur a great husband & father. If ur wife divorces u, will ur time being a great husband mean nothing? When ur kid grows up & leaves home, will u stop being a great father? No! All those things will still be a part of u & things u should be remembered for. & no matter what happens, u will always have been a great husband & father.

Just because someone stops doing something doesn't mean they shouldn't have glory for the great things they once did. It doesn't minimize those things.

[AR]

Yeah and people still go to Graceland to worship him. What's ur point?

Seems like ur saying no one is any good unless they're still doing what they once did well. By ur logic, Sam Cooke sucks because he died. Elvis sucks because he died. Freddie Mercury sucks because he died. Bob Seger sucked for years because he didn't do new stuff. He just redeemed himself by coming out again. Christopher Reeve sucked in the years before he died because he couldn't play Superman anymore. A doctor who invents a cure for something when he's 20 & then switches careers sucks because he isn't a doctor anymore. Ron Howard sucks because he isn't playing Opie anymore. The list goes on.

Is no one allowed to exercise free will & change careers? If they do change their mind about what they want to do in life, everything they did up to that point sucks? That's very rigid isn't it?

From what u write, ur a great husband & father. If ur wife divorces u, will ur time being a great husband mean nothing? When ur kid grows up & leaves home, will u stop being a great father? No! All those things will still be a part of u & things u should be remembered for. & no matter what happens, u will always have been a great husband & father.

Just because someone stops doing something doesn't mean they shouldn't have glory for the great things they once did. It doesn't minimize those things.

First off I am a terrible husband and father.

Some posters act like no one else can and should ever front Journey. I hate that. All the Perry worship, yet he sits at home while Rome burns. That's why I was happy when Journey tried and actually do something by bringing Augeri in. I'm even happier now though with Jeff on board.

Like Roger Daltrey says " I am always a musician, it's what I do"

So what does "the voice" do these days besides going to a World Series and brutalizing a classic song?

For the record, I was happy to see him. Since last year he must have bed sores though.

[Rockindeano]

AR, I have to chime in.

I hate a lot of stuff Perry did, however....

He gets a general free pass from me. I just let Lula hear ONE song off a Raised on Radio bootleg. Well, that ONE song turned into about 452 songs. He was THAT good. I couldn't stop listening to it.

I do agree with the fact that Nora, HOTS, PF, Lori(PP) and some others worship him and that is just so fucking stupid. Nora, who i like, is out to lunch regarding perry. Everytime she posts, I don't even read it anylonger, because it is Perry worshipping.....again, I like Nora but everything she ever writes, I know what it is without even readng it.

The rest of the Perry-ppos can eat the dried jizz off my cock. They are just so fucking gay.

Journeyrox, if you ever bothered to check your PM, you could have that ROR boot right now. Call me.

[ArnelRox]

Like them all for different reasons. Some are technically more proficient then others. I do not consider any of them to be "The incomperable, definitive voice". That is total arrogance. They are all great.

Ok fair enough. Ur opinion is they're all great & no one of them is better than the other.

Some of us feel a little differently about that tho. We think Perry *is* better than them. I like a lot of the people on ur list & I don't care for some of the others. I could make a list of my favorites & u probably wouldn't like them all. Does that make me right & u wrong? Or vice versa? No. We're all different. I think Perry is the best singer I've ever heard. I think his voice is incomparable. I would listen to him sing the phone book. My husband doesn't agree. He likes a little Perry but he sure wouldn't listen to him sing the phone book. I would. He likes a lot of music I can't stand. We don't have to get divorced because of that tho. We can just respect each other's opinions & our differences as people.

Why can't u let those of us who love Perry's voice continue to speak highly of him? Why do u have to tear him down every chance u get, & by doing so, make us seem like idiots? We're entitled to our opinion. Ur entitled to urs. Can't we respect each other & just express our opinions w/out referring to the people we like as pussies & saying he'd rather let his fans touch themselves to his music than record again?

[Jeremey]

Could care less if Perry could sing now or if he wanted to, or if he would rather stay at home doing sudoku....At one point, he was one of the greatest singers of all time, and just like any art - Painting, music, writing - That work is frozen in time forever to enjoy and listen to! Perry could be dead now, or could have the voice of Ethel Merman - Maybe he does, or maybe he can sing like a fucking canary - The point is, what does it matter what he does now? Perry, the person, is not a part of my life, or the lives of anyone else posting here, but his music will live on forever!

[Crazie Scarab]

Could care less if Perry could sing now or if he wanted to, or if he would rather stay at home doing sudoku....At one point, he was one of the greatest singers of all time, and just like any art - Painting, music, writing - That work is frozen in time forever to enjoy and listen to! Perry could be dead now, or could have the voice of Ethel Merman - Maybe he does, or maybe he can sing like a fucking canary - The point is, what does it matter what he does now? Perry, the person, is not a part of my life, or the lives of anyone else posting here, but his music will live on forever!

Amen!

Jeremey, that is one terrific post! Right on point!