SA vs JSS

[Lula]

Also, JSS just started his tenure in this band.
Comparing him to Augeri is not only premature, but a complete waste of time.

I believe their next album will be the best thing they've put out since the 80's.

YEAH!

[Eric]

I'm all for a new direction & sound!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZJ5HgcLss

Well i am NOT.
C'mon folks this is Journey we are talkin about here. You know, the band with melodies to die for, amazing keyboard hooks, wonderful harmonies. You remember the band i mean?
Do you really want the band to sound like Soul SirkUS? Well i freakin don't. That cd was shit. Shit with a capital S. I was expecting something truly amazing but boy was i disappointed or what.
Jeff is a great rock singer. Have seen him live on a few occasions (solo wise). He rocks big time(always has), and he seems to be doing great things with Journey.
They tried to do that new sound and new direction with the last 2 offerings and both have bombed. Red 13 was a pile of crap and Generations was certainly no better apart from a couple of cuts. You know the ones that actually sounded like Journey.

I just don't want the band to turn into some run of the mill hard rock outfit, yeah like Soul SirkUS, but hey Neal has obviously wanted just that for many years now. He obviously wants to play the heavier shit. I would rather him NOT.

Soul Sirkus was NOT Journey. JSS with Journey....well.....is Journey, Big difference. Schon will let his geetar sing Journey...there's Cain....I mean its Journey. And Believe in Me has Journey written all over it!

[Dyzzi]

Also, JSS just started his tenure in this band.
Comparing him to Augeri is not only premature, but a complete waste of time.

I believe their next album will be the best thing they've put out since the 80's.

What is your fav Journey Album ??

[Crazie Scarab]

I'm all for a new direction & sound!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZJ5HgcLss

Well i am NOT.
C'mon folks this is Journey we are talkin about here. You know, the band with melodies to die for, amazing keyboard hooks, wonderful harmonies. You remember the band i mean?
Do you really want the band to sound like Soul SirkUS? Well i freakin don't. That cd was shit. Shit with a capital S. I was expecting something truly amazing but boy was i disappointed or what.
Jeff is a great rock singer. Have seen him live on a few occasions (solo wise). He rocks big time(always has), and he seems to be doing great things with Journey.
They tried to do that new sound and new direction with the last 2 offerings and both have bombed. Red 13 was a pile of crap and Generations was certainly no better apart from a couple of cuts. You know the ones that actually sounded like Journey.

I just don't want the band to turn into some run of the mill hard rock outfit, yeah like Soul SirkUS, but hey Neal has obviously wanted just that for many years now. He obviously wants to play the heavier shit. I would rather him NOT.

Soul Sirkus was NOT Journey. JSS with Journey....well.....is Journey, Big difference. Schon will let his geetar sing Journey...there's Cain....I mean its Journey. And Believe in Me has Journey written all over it!

Thank you, Eric!

And Believe in Me has Journey written all over it!

That, it does! People that can't hear it must have a hearing problem!

[NealIsGod]

Also, JSS just started his tenure in this band.
Comparing him to Augeri is not only premature, but a complete waste of time.

I believe their next album will be the best thing they've put out since the 80's.

What is your fav Journey Album ??

I think Noble has said Frontiers is his fave.

[80s man]

Just my personal honest opinion. I've followed Journey for a long long time and was elated when they resurfaced with a new singer back in 1998.. Was very skeptical and decided to give them a chance and went to see them in Chicago in 1998. I was totally blown away. Saw them 5 times with SA over the past 7 years. I was totally impressed with SA and thought he brought heart and passion to the music. His vocals although not Perry perfect were good enough to continue the Journey.. I've seen Journey with JSS this summer in CHI and it was a great concert, definately better than Def Leppard. JSS is a THE best rock singer today and a true frontman and performer. His voice is rock solid and cuts through you. BUT in my opinion thought that it didn't quite fit the Journey music. Journey sounded great and JSS sounded great but it didn't grab me like SA did over the years. Maybe JSS is the right fit for the band if they move into a new direction but not the right guy if they continue the nostalgia tours.

Let the bashing begin!

Its just personal taste. I prefer it now - and i think Perry would be impressed at Jeff's handling of the situation.

[80s man]

Also, JSS just started his tenure in this band.
Comparing him to Augeri is not only premature, but a complete waste of time.

I believe their next album will be the best thing they've put out since the 80's.

YEAH!

I think it will be the best thing since TBF anyway............

[The_Noble_Cause]

What is your fav Journey Album ??

Frontiers

[The_Noble_Cause]

Soul Sirkus was NOT Journey.

It could be!
Remember, Neal's licks for "Faith in the Heartland" and "Out of Harms Way' were initially tossed Jeff's way, before Neal ultimately gave them to Jon to toy with.

[T-Bone]

Indeed... the JSS vs SP vs SA threads are overdone, beat into the ground and dead. Can't some of you think of ANYTHING else to start a thread about? Do you absolutely have to fill a certain quota of threads every day?

[Eric]

Soul Sirkus was NOT Journey.

It could be!
Remember, Neal's licks for "Faith in the Heartland" and "Out of Harms Way' were initially tossed Jeff's way, before Neal ultimately gave them to Jon to toy with.

Yeah...see...they threw out anything Journey sounding

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah...see...they threw out anything Journey sounding

Well, even though it didn't find its way onto Sirkus, "Believe in Me" was done by Schon/Soto and was very, very, very Journey-sounding.
One of the first red flags that something was afoul in current-day Journey.

[EclipticJourney]

Just 2 different styles. Steve Augeri is more in line with Steve Perry's sound, though I in no way consider him to be a soundalike, while Jeff is more energetic and brings an edgier more rock-oriented sound to Journey. Either are capable of the job and I have no favorite between them.

[Lula]

Just 2 different styles. Steve Augeri is more in line with Steve Perry's sound, though I in no way consider him to be a soundalike, while Jeff is more energetic and brings an edgier more rock-oriented sound to Journey. Either are capable of the job and I have no favorite between them.

Augeri in line with Perry's sound?? How do you figure? As for energy..... Perry was all over the stage; he worked those nikes

[The_Noble_Cause]

How do you figure? As for energy..... Perry was all over the stage; he worked those nikes

Once upon a time, Augeri was something of a manic spark plug himself.
The tapes gave him a lead foot.

Hard to be roving all over the stage when you're apprehensively awaiting a cue to open and shut ur mouth.

[Lula]

I didn't get on board with the Augeri fronted Journey until 2004. Never saw the "manic spark plug"

[Eric]

Yeah...see...they threw out anything Journey sounding

Well, even though it didn't find its way onto Sirkus, "Believe in Me" was done by Schon/Soto and was very, very, very Journey-sounding.
One of the first red flags that something was afoul in current-day Journey.

Yeah, actually I just gave you more ammunition

[yulog]

You win. I should've known better and I did ask for a bashing.

carlito wrote:

"And don't listen to some of the banter...
Don't know if you've 'met' Deano yet (great guy BTW) but I am the Deano Wannabe
as ol' Log put it..."

Dont let our deano wannabe stop you from posting, not everyone is going to have the same opinions. Your first post wasnt bad at all and your second was funnier than anything the hack has done without stealing someone elses ideas.

carlito wrote:

"Hey Log, you keep puffing your chest making accusations my way...
I PMed you, when you gonna respond?
You gonna keep throwing shit out like that and then not show me a source?
And I'm the one that's an asshole?
At least you actually expressed yourself with words this time."




Funny, i didn't mention anyone's name yet you knew who the wannabe/hack was(realizing you have a problem is the first step in recovery), no one has called you an asshole accept yourself on several occasions, i guess you know best(poor attempt at trying to play the victim).
As far as your pm did you mean the one where you were so distraught about being called on for being a hack ,for making fun of all the bters, yet stealing their ideas and reproducing there funny skit over here (playing both sides of the fence again) .You know what the source is ,you talked about it in your pm. The skits are still up at bt under "funny fake news" and your stolen idea should be here unless you erased it like you did your post from this thread
Hell, im not the only one who has called you on your behavior,McNeil has here and TNC commented on you stealing Rich"'s idea doing H2H, again another bt person you brutalize and make fun of only to steal his idea to use over here--pretty much the definition of a hack. Dont get all worked up about it ,everyone has to be good at something here and no one is a bigger hack than you are ,and i really havent seen anyone more Passive /aggressive in their posts towards people with a difference in opinion even if its presented in a non derogatory way-so you have everyone beat in that area as well.
i should thank you ,again you make this too easy--but can you do me a favor i need a real laugh can you just say it again----you know ,come on --just one more time--"YOU HAVE LOST AN ALLY"!!!!---------you kill me with that classic stuff--still cant believe anyone would ever say something like that

[donnaplease]

As for energy..... Perry was all over the stage; he worked those nikes

Really...from what I've read, people (I guess the "Wigglers", but who knows) have remarked how much more 'audience friendly' Augeri was. I took that to mean he was moving around more on stage. The videos that I've seen from SP lead me to believe he was all over the stage, but just not down on the edge of the stage, touching the fans. Is that accurate?? Of course, when I saw Augeri at Nissan Pavilion a few years ago, I don't necessarily remember him being too close to the edge of the stage either. I kinda think SP was probably more intimidated by the huge crowds that loved him so much.

Oh, and Lula...loved those Nikes!!!

[ohsherrie]

I didn't get on board with the Augeri fronted Journey until 2004. Never saw the "manic spark plug"

Looked more like a fizzling dud to me. Nothing firey or sparkling about it.

[Liz22562]

I've seen Journey just about every year since Augeri was on board. He was a wonderful showman out front and had the audience on their feet from the first song to the last.

[Rockindeano]

Really...from what I've read, people (I guess the "Wigglers", but who knows) have remarked how much more 'audience friendly' Augeri was. I took that to mean he was moving around more on stage. The videos that I've seen from SP lead me to believe he was all over the stage, but just not down on the edge of the stage, touching the fans. Is that accurate?? Of course, when I saw Augeri at Nissan Pavilion a few years ago, I don't necessarily remember him being too close to the edge of the stage either. I kinda think SP was probably more intimidated by the huge crowds that loved him so much.

Oh, and Lula...loved those Nikes!!!

Perry was NEVER intimidated by crowds at a show. You need to remember, he played Football stadiums, not hockey arenas or ampitheatres. Perry was so much better a showman than SAugeri. The Wigglers just say they like him better because A) Perry isn't around anylonger, and B) Perry was not as accessible to fans. He was indeed like Elvis. Neal and Friga would hang around and meet fans, and Perry would hi tail it out of town in his motorhome, banging Sherrie as he raced down I-80 towards Denver.

[Rockindeano]

I've seen Journey just about every year since Augeri was on board. He was a wonderful showman out front and had the audience on their feet from the first song to the last.

Give me the Journey catalogue, and a great sounding studio polished CD to play on the PA, and I would woo the shit out of fans too. Believe me, I can lip those songs as good as the next guy.

[donnaplease]

Perry was NEVER intimidated by crowds at a show. You need to remember, he played Football stadiums, not hockey arenas or ampitheatres. Perry was so much better a showman than SAugeri. The Wigglers just say they like him better because A) Perry isn't around anylonger, and B) Perry was not as accessible to fans. He was indeed like Elvis. Neal and Friga would hang around and meet fans, and Perry would hi tail it out of town in his motorhome, banging Sherrie as he raced down I-80 towards Denver.

Actually, that's kinda what I meant. But do you think it was because those large crowds so close made him, I don't know...nervous, or that he really just didn't care about the fans. Everything I've read leads me to believe he is such a private person, and I guess I just assumed he was uncomfortable being so close to that many people. Hell, he even had a bodyguard at the WOF ceremony from what I read.

I'm certainly not criticizing, I'm just trying to understand the "man behind the myth"... Wish I could've seen him for myself, but I was too busy going to see Wham! (OK, I was a teenybopper... )

Afterthought...maybe banging Sherrie was just too much to resist.

[junky]

Perry was NEVER intimidated by crowds at a show. You need to remember, he played Football stadiums, not hockey arenas or ampitheatres. Perry was so much better a showman than SAugeri. The Wigglers just say they like him better because A) Perry isn't around anylonger, and B) Perry was not as accessible to fans. He was indeed like Elvis. Neal and Friga would hang around and meet fans, and Perry would hi tail it out of town in his motorhome, banging Sherrie as he raced down I-80 towards Denver.

Actually, that's kinda what I meant. But do you think it was because those large crowds so close made him, I don't know...nervous, or that he really just didn't care about the fans. Everything I've read leads me to believe he is such a private person, and I guess I just assumed he was uncomfortable being so close to that many people. Hell, he even had a bodyguard at the WOF ceremony from what I read.

I only saw Perry at huge stadiums. The stage was so high, it was almost physically impossible for Perry to touch the audience. According to Herbie, Perry didn't want to play stadiums on the Frontiers tour due to the lack of intimacy.

As for Augeri, the first time I saw him from the 20th row, I thought he was a little boring.
After that, I managed to get seats in the first few rows and it's like night and day. Augeri really made you feel special.
We called a friend during Feeling That Way and he took the cell phone out of my husband's hand and sang to my friend.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Funny, i didn't mention anyone's name yet you knew who the wannabe/hack was(realizing you have a problem is the first step in recovery), no one has called you an asshole accept yourself on several occasions, i guess you know best(poor attempt at trying to play the victim).

Why on earth would I ever play the victim to you? Get real.
Of course I knew who you were talking about...
Your lame ass chases me around these boards all the time.
But face it, you're to weak and clueless to go at with me.Assbags like you and McNutbag make it too easy...

As far as your pm did you mean the one where you were so distraught about being called on for being a hack ,for making fun of all the bters, yet stealing their ideas and reproducing there funny skit over here (playing both sides of the fence again) .You know what the source is ,you talked about it in your pm. The skits are still up at bt under "funny fake news" and your stolen idea should be here unless you erased it like you did your post from this thread

So you did get my email and now you are STILL gonna call me a liar and a hakk? K, suit your self. It's really no sweat off my balls.
Fact is, what I told you in my PM (which you could post if you like, I got no secrets) is absolute truth and the 'similar' threads were purely coincidental...
Hey, JRNYANNE is pretty clever; I quess great minds think alike.

Hell, im not the only one who has called you on your behavior,McNeil has here and TNC commented on you stealing Rich"'s idea doing H2H, again another bt person you brutalize and make fun of only to steal his idea to use over here--pretty much the definition of a hack. Dont get all worked up about it ,everyone has to be good at something here and no one is a bigger hack than you are ,and i really havent seen anyone more Passive /aggressive in their posts towards people with a difference in opinion even if its presented in a non derogatory way-so you have everyone beat in that area as well.
i should thank you ,again you make this too easy--but can you do me a favor i need a real laugh can you just say it again----you know ,come on --just one more time--"YOU HAVE LOST AN ALLY"!!!!---------you kill me with that classic stuff--still cant believe anyone would ever say something like that

Yea, TNC said something about me copying Dick's H2H...
TNC and everyone else also knew that, not only was it a jab at HOW FUCKING GAY DICK AND HIS H2H IS, but it was also me futher exploiting how fucking gay Dick and BT has become.
No copying involved; I was making fun of Dick in public, pure and simple.
The only reason I did a second one is because I got a pretty good response.
And you are really one to talk about playing both sides of the fence...
Unlike you, my posts at the other place DIRECTLY reflect the same ideas and opinions I share here; they are just less colorful and vulgar than here and everyone knows why: That's Shirley Temples, this place is Jack and Beam.
You on the other hand...
I'll leave it at that.

[ArnelRox]

Just 2 different styles. Steve Augeri is more in line with Steve Perry's sound, though I in no way consider him to be a soundalike, while Jeff is more energetic and brings an edgier more rock-oriented sound to Journey. Either are capable of the job and I have no favorite between them.

Augeri in line with Perry's sound?? How do you figure? As for energy..... Perry was all over the stage; he worked those nikes

& I would also disagree here & agree w/Lula. In terms of vocal power, JSS is way more in line with Perry than Augie ever was. When I listen to recent JSS boots, I get some of the same shivers I got listening to Perry boots.

[ArnelRox]

I only saw Perry at huge stadiums. The stage was so high, it was almost physically impossible for Perry to touch the audience. According to Herbie, Perry didn't want to play stadiums on the Frontiers tour due to the lack of intimacy.

As for Augeri, the first time I saw him from the 20th row, I thought he was a little boring.
After that, I managed to get seats in the first few rows and it's like night and day. Augeri really made you feel special.
We called a friend during Feeling That Way and he took the cell phone out of my husband's hand and sang to my friend.

I saw Perry on the FTLOSM tour & he seemed very comfortable w/the smaller venues & being closer to the crowds. He was very accessible. As for having a bodyguard, heck, who'd blame him? There are still women who'd rip his clothes off. (Ok I'm almost one of them but I'd have some respect. I'd think about it tho, must admit. Just wouldn't actually do it.)

That's a nice Augeri story. He was certainly a fan-friendly guy indeed & a very nice person, or so it seemed. I have to admit, I wonder about that now tho. I have a friend who is very hurt that he hasn't even come out & acknowledged his fans for all these months. She doesn't want details of his life, just a "thank u" but Augeri has been silent. Even she is starting to wonder if his niceness all those yrs was just a big act. Now that he has no more use for his fans, why bother? Even Perry comes out once in a while & does an interview. He did a Q&A for his fans. Augeri, much less a superstar than Perry, has abandoned those who loved him faithfully tho. Sad.

[kbo]

Keep in mind that Steve Augeri is under a contractual agreement as a member of Journey. He is legally not allowed to talk about Journey unless the band members and the band attorneys approve it.

There are a couple of scenarios here.

1. He has been replaced by the band and legally he can't speak to anyone until the entire band comes forward when ready.

2. He is recovering and the band will not allow him to speak. The band has a replacement singer (JSS) and they are waiting to determine if (SA) will indeed recover otherwise the band will announce (JSS) as the new lead singer of Journey.

These are the 2 valid explanations. The Click-track-gate has left a blemish on the bands integrity and they also needed to keep this tour going due to legal/contractual obligations which is why they didn't just bow. They had no choice but to bring in another singer to keep the tour going. They knew (JSS) could do get the job done.

[The_Noble_Cause]

and TNC commented on you stealing Rich"'s idea doing H2H,

Yea, TNC said something about me copying Dick's H2H...

I think Carlitto is funny as fuck.
Vladan has spoofed Rich's H2H and I think I have, as well.
Honestly, who hasn't made fun of that lumbering mutton cock at one point or another?
It's a MR.com rite of passage.