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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:41 pm

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Rockin'Deano wrote:I had already stated this 3 times and this will be my last.

I burned Azoffs' ass to the ground about a thousand times, and I admit, I was wrong to do so. He had nothing to work with. His lead singer couldn't sing. Azoff is only as good as his band/singer. I do not think he is going anywhere now, and I am NOT addressing this again Monker, you smelly crotched bitch.


Ok.. Interesting. So, you're basically saying that Azoff is still in and we should all be good with that - and wait & see what happens? Seems to me that a good management company would have made the changes long ago to make something happen for the better. For the better of Journey and the managements bank acct.

I must be missing something?


Yeah, you're missing that Dean does a lot of GUESSING, just like everybody else here.


What he's got to say is way more interesting than anything you have to say, Britt. If nothing else, he's full of optimism. Optimism is something you fully lack. Now, go grab your vibrator and message the back of your throat some more. Seems you need to stimulate your brain from the bottom side all the time.
ok ...that was funny...sorry ...it just was ... :lol:

I agree. Tummy hurt kinda funny. lol
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:45 pm

FyreWyngz wrote:Good points you smelly crotched bitch.

The blame game doesn't interest me in the least.


Those who ARE interested in it started out 'with 'taking the band down'...and ended with only taking ONE man down. They are wrong for what they do now...and they did not consider the long term affects of what they were doing then....therefore, the backtracking.

As I see it JOURNEY did what they had to do to keep things going.[/quoe]

Gee, wasn't there a post about somebody saying "you can't stop the gravy train?" They kept things going...ignored the issues, are letting a scapegoat take the heat for what the entire band did.

It would seem that Def Leppard and their team knew, too. Why wouldn't they? How wouldn't they? If it was "obvious" to a few schlubs then how could it have escaped them?


Who cares? It's JOURNEY's responsibility to address the issue, not DL's.

I don't think this has anything to do with blame. The people who made/make a big whip about it are SA haters at the core and saw/see this as a golden opportunity to pin these perceived sins on him and nail him up at each and every turn. It's truly an obsession.


THAT I agree with. SOME of them may not have STARTED that way, but that is where they have ended up.

Every time I think of this stuff it conjures up the classic movie scene of the deluded villagers chasing after the innocent victim to execute them in some deranged manner as they are to blame for all of the ills that have befallen the village.


"Lord of the Flies"
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:49 pm

Monker wrote: Those who ARE interested in it started out 'with 'taking the band down'...and ended with only taking ONE man down. They are wrong for what they do now...and they did not consider the long term affects of what they were doing then....therefore, the backtracking.


Got a couple of questions for u Monkey baby. Would u prefer a still-taped Journey doing the live than nite after nite? & do u not think it was ultimately Augie-Waugie's responsibility to stop lipping? After all whether every one else knew about it or not, he was still the dude that did it? He could have quite.
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:49 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:Monkers' pussy is so big, that when Moose puts his pole in her, he has to bang one side of his cock to make the other side jealous.

He must feel like a BB in a boxcar.


What's wrong Dean? Changing the subject, just as you change your predictions of the future?

Your next prediction that I disagree with: You said Journey will have this big hit single on the charts next year. Won't happen. There may be some new single with potential. But, it won't be top 10 on the pop charts.
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:51 pm

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AR wrote: Arrival was radio friendly and despite what all the Perry loons think - it had monster hit potential.


In what yr? 87? I agree. Woulda been a monster w/Perry's vox.


Uh, not with Perry's 1987 voice. 1983, sure.
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:59 pm

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Monker wrote: Those who ARE interested in it started out 'with 'taking the band down'...and ended with only taking ONE man down. They are wrong for what they do now...and they did not consider the long term affects of what they were doing then....therefore, the backtracking.


Got a couple of questions for u Monkey baby. Would u prefer a still-taped Journey doing the live than nite after nite? & do u not think it was ultimately Augie-Waugie's responsibility to stop lipping? After all whether every one else knew about it or not, he was still the dude that did it? He could have quite.


No. I would have prefered a Journey who had the balls to take a year off to make an album worthy of the Journey name. THAT is what I wanted after Main Event. I would have prefered a band not so caught up on making the touring dollars that they NEVER took time out to record a full album. I would prefer a band willing to face the consequences of their own actions, instead of being silent about them, and sweeping it under the rug after replacing the lead singer...and allow peons on a internet msg forum to speak for them. This BAND has done as much to hurt themselves as ANYTHING you, or anybody, can say that Augeri did.

As for the second question. Neal, Jonathan, Ross, and Dean stood behind Augeri as he did whatever he did. If they didn't like it, THEY could have stopped as well. Instead, they stood behind their lead singer and the BAND's decsion to do whatever they did.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:27 pm

Monker wrote:
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AR wrote: Arrival was radio friendly and despite what all the Perry loons think - it had monster hit potential.


In what yr? 87? I agree. Woulda been a monster w/Perry's vox.


Uh, not with Perry's 1987 voice. 1983, sure.


Really? What about Perry's 1995 voice that got nominated for a grammy? Or his voice now?

What u obviously fail to realize is that Perry can sing most people under the table with ANY voice of his from ANY year.
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:32 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
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AR wrote: Arrival was radio friendly and despite what all the Perry loons think - it had monster hit potential.


In what yr? 87? I agree. Woulda been a monster w/Perry's vox.


Uh, not with Perry's 1987 voice. 1983, sure.


Really? What about Perry's 1995 voice that got nominated for a grammy? Or his voice now?

What u obviously fail to realize is that Perry can sing most people under the table with ANY voice of his from ANY year.


I don't care if he was part of something that got nominated for a Grammy. His voice was unimpressive on TBF and nothing that he has done since has impressed me. I don't think he could sing the songs on Arrival and do them justice.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:34 pm

MonkeyBoy wrote:No. I would have prefered a Journey who had the balls to take a year off to make an album worthy of the Journey name. THAT is what I wanted after Main Event.


W/who? A guy who couldn't sing? Yes he was having vox trouble back in 2003.

MonkeyBoy wrote:I would have prefered a band not so caught up on making the touring dollars that they NEVER took time out to record a full album.


See above. Lead singer couldn't sing.

MonkeyBoy wrote:As for the second question. Neal, Jonathan, Ross, and Dean stood behind Augeri as he did whatever he did. If they didn't like it, THEY could have stopped as well. Instead, they stood behind their lead singer and the BAND's decsion to do whatever they did.


What if they didn't know the extent of what was going on? If they knew a bit & went along, ok, not great. But Augie-Waugie still did it all, didn't he?
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:38 pm

MonkeyBoy wrote:I don't care if he was part of something that got nominated for a Grammy. His voice was unimpressive on TBF and nothing that he has done since has impressed me. I don't think he could sing the songs on Arrival and do them justice.


U & I will have to disagree. I think his voice was amazing no matter what he did. I suggest u clean ur ears out. Then play this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=p0zGpl7Ckhg

Nobody does it better.
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Postby Monker » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:14 pm

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MonkeyBoy wrote:I don't care if he was part of something that got nominated for a Grammy. His voice was unimpressive on TBF and nothing that he has done since has impressed me. I don't think he could sing the songs on Arrival and do them justice.


U & I will have to disagree. I think his voice was amazing no matter what he did. I suggest u clean ur ears out. Then play this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=p0zGpl7Ckhg

Nobody does it better.


Sorry, but Farnham blows him away nowadays. This is him in 2000. Perry could not do this in 2000...and it's too funny at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMdthrJfkE

And, here he is back during ROR time...and I doubt Perry could do this around then either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAXwFs7uQY4

And, just because I love the song...and I like it a lot more then WYLaW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcoiRdJ1gVQ
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Postby McNeil » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:25 pm

Monker wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:
MonkeyBoy wrote:I don't care if he was part of something that got nominated for a Grammy. His voice was unimpressive on TBF and nothing that he has done since has impressed me. I don't think he could sing the songs on Arrival and do them justice.


U & I will have to disagree. I think his voice was amazing no matter what he did. I suggest u clean ur ears out. Then play this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=p0zGpl7Ckhg

Nobody does it better.


Sorry, but Farnham blows him away nowadays. This is him in 2000. Perry could not do this in 2000...and it's too funny at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMdthrJfkE

And, here he is back during ROR time...and I doubt Perry could do this around then either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAXwFs7uQY4

And, just because I love the song...and I like it a lot more then WYLaW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcoiRdJ1gVQ


I have a couple of Farnham DVD's ... inc his "retirement" gig ... the guy blows Perry out of the water...in so far as he can still do it.... he is one of the few guys whose voice is more powerful than Perry's .... not saying I prefer JF tone... but if its a "power" war...its Farnham ...hands down!!
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Postby McNeil » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:28 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
Monker wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:
AR wrote: Arrival was radio friendly and despite what all the Perry loons think - it had monster hit potential.


In what yr? 87? I agree. Woulda been a monster w/Perry's vox.


Uh, not with Perry's 1987 voice. 1983, sure.


Really? What about Perry's 1995 voice that got nominated for a grammy? Or his voice now?

What u obviously fail to realize is that Perry can sing most people under the table with ANY voice of his from ANY year.


your coming across as someone who has no balanced judgement..... no one "always" performs at their best...and some material is never as good as other stuff by the same artist...... "perryloon" seems apt!! far too fanatical in your appraisal of Perry... tone it down, for credibility!!
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:07 pm

Monker wrote:
What's wrong Dean? Changing the subject, just as you change your predictions of the future?


No, not changing subject at all. It's tiring trying to talk to someone who just doesn't get it. I know their plans for the future. Sometimes plans change due to circumstance, but I do know their itinerary. I like it. As manager, I would write the same itinerary as they have on their laps now.


Your next prediction that I disagree with: You said Journey will have this big hit single on the charts next year. Won't happen. There may be some new single with potential. But, it won't be top 10 on the pop charts.



NEVER said they would have a top 10 hit. I DID say they will definitely make news and noise. I NEVER sais they would chart. I did say they will be felt by music listeners.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:10 pm

McNeil wrote:your coming across as someone who has no balanced judgement..... no one "always" performs at their best...


Bullshit. Perry was always great. He had an off night for him, but it was always great. He is the Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky of singing. He went out on top. Bravo to Perry for that.

and some material is never as good as other stuff by the same artist......


This I agree with.

"perryloon" seems apt!! far too fanatical in your appraisal of Perry... tone it down, for credibility!!



Naw. She is pretty fair minded and comes across as NOT being a Loon. I have talked with her. Believe me, she isn't a Loon.
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Postby maverick218 » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:42 am

Tracker wrote:Interesting - that MR gets all the official news first and then the official site follows afterwards. Seems like the band and management treats their own official site as second class....How about - Andrew for Journey management and MR for official site - it seems to be the place to get all of the news first. :shock:


Yea, ain't that the truth. Funny how Genesis is getting back together (without Gabriel) for a tour next year, and the ONLY place that they are making the announcement (11/7) is on THEIR website!
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:50 am

maverick218 wrote:..How about - Andrew for Journey management and MR for official site - it seems to be the place to get all of the news first. :shock:


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Yeah, use the MR site for the official site, but Manager is MY gig. I love Andrew, but we need a guy who lives in the States.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:33 am

McNutBag wrote:your coming across as someone who has no balanced judgement..... no one "always" performs at their best...and some material is never as good as other stuff by the same artist...... "perryloon" seems apt!! far too fanatical in your appraisal of Perry... tone it down, for credibility!!


Any you're coming across as usual, as an illiterate fool.

Learn to spell. "your" is possessive & used to describe something like "your books". "you're" is a combination of "you" and "are". That is what u are trying to use. Learn the difference.

Learn to read. I never said Perry always performed at his best. I said he could perform anyone under the table. That's a fact. On his off nites, he was better than most people on their very best nites.

I am a self-admitted Perryloon. I have never denied my love for the man's voice or the fact that I think it's the greatest voice I've ever heard. I could care less if I have any credibility w/a "no talent lookalike Paul wannabe" fool like u or not. That is certainly not my goal here. In fact, I'd be very pleased if u completely ignored my posts as if they weren't even there.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:35 am

Rockin'Deano wrote: Naw. She is pretty fair minded and comes across as NOT being a Loon. I have talked with her. Believe me, she isn't a Loon.


Thank u darling! (Don't worry Lula, not trying to steal ur man!)
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Postby Monker » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:07 am

JourneyRox wrote:I said he could perform anyone under the table. That's a fact. On his off nites, he was better than most people on their very best nites.


And, *I* say that Farnham can perform with a voice FAR superior to Perry's in TODAY's world. Perry can't even come close. Even in the studio, in the very song you posted, Perry sounds like he's pushing his limits at times, that he is struggling to keep singing. Overall, he is VERY unimpressive...ESPECIALY when compared to his early days.

Farnham, on the other hand, has kept ALL of his voice. He sounds almost exactly as he did in 1983. He is so far above today's Perry that it's comical to even compare the two.

Perry only has memories of having a voice as good as Farnham's.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:20 am

Monker wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:I said he could perform anyone under the table. That's a fact. On his off nites, he was better than most people on their very best nites.


And, *I* say that Farnham can perform with a voice FAR superior to Perry's in TODAY's world. Perry can't even come close. Even in the studio, in the very song you posted, Perry sounds like he's pushing his limits at times, that he is struggling to keep singing. Overall, he is VERY unimpressive...ESPECIALY when compared to his early days.

Farnham, on the other hand, has kept ALL of his voice. He sounds almost exactly as he did in 1983. He is so far above today's Perry that it's comical to even compare the two.

Perry only has memories of having a voice as good as Farnham's.


What's your point?

Big fucking deal. Perry retired for this reason. he could no longer, in his view, perform at the level he expects from himself. Why are you bashing the guy? He retired.

By the way, when Farnham sustains the level of success that Perry did, let me know.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:35 am

MonkeyBoy wrote: And, *I* say that Farnham can perform with a voice FAR superior to Perry's in TODAY's world. Perry can't even come close. Even in the studio, in the very song you posted, Perry sounds like he's pushing his limits at times, that he is struggling to keep singing. Overall, he is VERY unimpressive...ESPECIALY when compared to his early days.

Farnham, on the other hand, has kept ALL of his voice. He sounds almost exactly as he did in 1983. He is so far above today's Perry that it's comical to even compare the two.

Perry only has memories of having a voice as good as Farnham's.


Who the fuck is Farnham? He's been performing since '83? I never even heard of him.

What song is Perry struggling on? Mother, Father? The LIVE version I posted a link to? He's struggling? Get ur head out of ur ass. U can't hear properly in there.

Perry unimpressive? Ha ha...on what planet? In what alternate universe is Perry ever unimpressive?

How do u know he can't sing today? Did u hear his background work w/David Peck?

Wake up Monkey boy!
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Postby Moose » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:39 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:I don't guess.

Monker, Moose, Moose, Mcshitforbreath, and some others only say I do, because I get it right.

Monker hasn't been right ever.


What the hell are you talking about, asshole???
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Postby somethingtohide » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:05 am

Farnham has nice voice and is very good at the songs he chooses to sing...but do you think he has ever had the power and the emotion to sing something like Mother Father?

Just a question. The only song of Farnham's I'm familiar with is Cool Change.

What songs should I listen to?
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:06 am

couple of comments on John Farnham grouped for one post....



"By the way, when Farnham sustains the level of success that Perry did, let me know."

To be honest, it should probably be the other way around. John Farnham is basically unknown outside of Australia (much like Perry/Journey are outside of US). Farnham never really broke out of Australia, and with the exception of Japan, Journey never broke out of the US.

That being said, Farnham is the #1 selling artist in Australian history with the highest selling album in the country, which has stood for 20 years. He holds the record for the number of shows and patrons in ALL of the entertainment centres in Australia. He is also one of the few people in the world to have a #1 hit in four different decades. He holds the records for the two top grossing tours in Australian history. He broke Australian touring records (eclipsing his own record at the #1 spot), performing with his 10-piece band from November to June 2003, selling out 94 concerts to 460,000 people and becoming the seventh most profitable touring act in the world. The last show of the "Farewell Tour" in 2003 saw Farnham perform his 86th show in Melbourne's Rod Laver Arena and his one millionth patron in THAT ARENA ALONE. I won't even start on the number of awards he has been given over the years.

I think it's safe to say that there are more people in Australia who know who John Farnham is, than people in the US who know who Steve Perry is. No disrespect for what Perry and Journey achieved, but Farnham is the bigger act, by far.





"Who the fuck is Farnham? He's been performing since '83? I never even heard of him. "

Australian pop singer. His career dates back to the 1st single in 1967, which became the highest selling single of the decade. He was rather popular as a teen pop star for several years, then album sales started declining. He joined Little River Band from 1981 to 1984, when he left the band. Apparently, there was some amount of friction, and he felt he was tied down. Go search for an interview on him commenting on his days with LRB on youtube. His big comeback was in 1986 when Whispering Jack was released. The album is still the #1 selling album in Australia, and the tour was the biggest grossing tour in Australian history. Since then, success has been consistent. See the stuff above. Recently, after performing at the closing of the Olympic Games in Melbourne in 2000, he retired from major touring in 2003, but still performs on occasion. He recorded a version of We Will Rock You with Queen for his greatest hits album in 2003 (One Voice), and there are a lot of rumours that he turned the lead vocalist position down because he didn't want the hassle. No offense to Paul Rodgers who did the best he could with a voice that is 180 degrees opposite of Freddy Mercury, but Farnham would have been a natural in the frontman of Queen. When you are as successful solo as Farnham is, I am sure there would be some friction putting him into an established band situation like Queen.

Also, as Monker said, John Farnham's voice is basically unchanged from 25 years ago, live or in studio. For whatever reason though, like many other Australian bands, he never really broke out into the world stage. Farnham experienced some success in Europe also around the release of Whispering Jack with You're the Voice, but never broke the US. Perhaps by it's location as much as anything else, Australia always had it's own contained music scene of legends that could sell out the entire country, but not get arrested anywhere else (Cold Chisel being another example).





"Farnham has nice voice and is very good at the songs he chooses to sing...but do you think he has ever had the power and the emotion to sing something like Mother Father?"

power? yes--especially live. He can sound rather mechanical, especially on the mid 80s pop stuff (ie the Whispering Jack album), but his voice has a lot of raw power in the live environment. Emotion? yes, I think so. The guy can basically sing anything he wants to (and I've heard him nail Foreigner's I Want to Know What Love Is on a live performance several years ago), although I would say he would probably fit in better with Queen than with Journey. Going by his takes on Burn for You and Angels, he can do the emotion--and his voice is considerably more emotional live than studio. Honestly, his best stuff vocally was always live, where he can be restrained on the studio work. The main problem in answering the question is the main criticism people have of Farnham. That being most of his back catalogue is simple pop songs, and that he never stretched himself singing something that would do justice to his voice--a voice that was admired by most everyone, including a LOT of singers. Mother, Father, of course, is about as far as one can get from a simple pop song. As you said, Farnham (like Perry) is very good--and very selective--with what he chooses to sing, so it would be somewhat taking him out of his natural element, but I think Farnham could do the song justice.





"Just a question. The only song of Farnham's I'm familiar with is Cool Change. What songs should I listen to?"

As far as musical style goes, he isn't hard rock. More along the line of Phil Collins solo (without the horns) or the 80s pop version of Rod Stewart. A lot of his albums tend to be rather ballady also. The best bet is to go for his 2CD set "One Voice - Greatest Hits" collection. As far as specific songs, You're the Voice is his biggest hit, and is considerably more difficult to sing than it sounds. I've heard covers of that song that fail miserably--the song simply lives and dies on the lead vocal. Some of his better ones are Have a Little Faith (In Us), That's Freedom, Angels, Burn for You, Age of Reason, and his cover of Cold Chisel's When the World Is Over (which is a bit different from the original, but still a stunning song and lyrically much deeper than your average pop song).

Farnham's "The Last Time" live dvd from the final Melbourne show in 2003 is also well worth picking up if you have a dvd player can can play PAL. 2 1/2 hrs of uncut live concert, and Farnham is simply incredible live.

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Postby somethingtohide » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:37 am

Thanks for the reply and for your cd recommendations. I'll try to give some more examples of his vocals a listen and see if I can be convinced.

Even if I remain unconvinced, thanks for reminding me of a fine vocalist. I'm impressed that his voice still sounds so clear all these years later since "Cool Change" was released.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:49 am

Farnham doesn't count here, in my opinion, because he isn't well know as far as I know, in the States.
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:51 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:I had already stated this 3 times and this will be my last.

I burned Azoffs' ass to the ground about a thousand times, and I admit, I was wrong to do so. He had nothing to work with. His lead singer couldn't sing. Azoff is only as good as his band/singer. I do not think he is going anywhere now, and I am NOT addressing this again Monker, you smelly crotched bitch.


Deano you're full of shit here. You were as right to burn his ass to the ground then, as you are wrong to defend him now. The fact of Augeri being able to sing or not is irrelevant as management is concerned, otherwise there would harldy be a music industry at all. There is a whole lot of talentless nothings making bank in the music business, because of management and promotion. He did nothing for Journey with Augeri, and Arrival wasn't that bad a product. Go compare it to a lot of talentless shit that sold big time the same year. Now if Journey does well with Soto, and lets all hope we get a descent product (and why wouldn't we) then what will Azoff do different? If he does the same nothing as he did for Arrival, then he gets no credit for the success. If Journey turns out a product as good or better than Arrival and nothing happens, then the blame is on him.

All the bullshit about how the music industry has changed is a lame-ass excuse. We my friends, have the money and the pocket books. That's why some of the most succesful tours of late are classic acts like Journey and others. It wasn't teenagers who rushed out to buy "hell freezes over" either.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:25 pm

Dude,

How can Azoff Mgt book Journey on the Tonight Show, Letterman, Hoard, Good Morning America, Opra, whatever, when the lead singer can't do it. Yeah, we all know Neal, but most casual viewers will be looking at the lead vocalist.

Can you see Journey in 2005 doing the Today show? OMG, that would END their careers.

Nope, gonna give Azoff a pass. I was wrong before. Now, next year, with a quality lead singer who has charisma and smarts, if nothing transpires in the way of PR, then we cut off his head and use it for a bowling ball.

Irv gets the pass.
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:02 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:Dude,

How can Azoff Mgt book Journey on the Tonight Show, Letterman, Hoard, Good Morning America, Opra, whatever, when the lead singer can't do it. Yeah, we all know Neal, but most casual viewers will be looking at the lead vocalist.

Can you see Journey in 2005 doing the Today show? OMG, that would END their careers.

Nope, gonna give Azoff a pass. I was wrong before. Now, next year, with a quality lead singer who has charisma and smarts, if nothing transpires in the way of PR, then we cut off his head and use it for a bowling ball.

Irv gets the pass.


Why not? I can think of more bands with singers who cant sing worth a fuck on those shows, than those who can. Think about it.
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