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by JrnySuxBalls » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:23 pm
Marabelle wrote:...and attempts to sidetrack the discussion with a smidgen of humor and a joke and there you have it; another opened window closed.
by Rockindeano » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:31 pm
JDouglee wrote:Marabelle wrote:...and attempts to sidetrack the discussion with a smidgen of humor and a joke and there you have it; another opened window closed.
Actually the humor is what keeps me reading this board from time to time. If you ask me, it's folks
who can't laugh that bring these boards down.
by fred_journeyman » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:32 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:I did. I was the fucking guy who took on the Journey Machine and won. I affected change, and guess what? That is NOT self absorbant at all. I am just speaking the truth. Goddammit Fred, look at what we have here? A NEW, blood pumping, fuck you band that kicks tail and YOU should NOT go anywhere! And guess what? I am very responsible for it.
by larryfromnextdoor » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:32 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:JDouglee wrote:Marabelle wrote:...and attempts to sidetrack the discussion with a smidgen of humor and a joke and there you have it; another opened window closed.
Actually the humor is what keeps me reading this board from time to time. If you ask me, it's folks
who can't laugh that bring these boards down.
So are you with me or against me?
by JrnySuxBalls » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:35 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:JDouglee wrote:Marabelle wrote:...and attempts to sidetrack the discussion with a smidgen of humor and a joke and there you have it; another opened window closed.
Actually the humor is what keeps me reading this board from time to time. If you ask me, it's folks
who can't laugh that bring these boards down.
So are you with me or against me?
by Rockindeano » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:36 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:
You don't get it, do you Dean? The band was/is USING you, dude. THEY affected the change by using YOU to do it. Maybe you're not that intelligent afterall.
by Rockindeano » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:38 pm
by fred_journeyman » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:43 pm
Crazie Scarab wrote:Fred, I was always a little leary of you and I've stayed my distance. I will continue to do just that as I think you are nothing but a total asshole. You think you can make change? It ain't gonna happen. You may mean well, Fred, but it ain't gonna happen. Again, this is an internet forum YOU have no control over.
It would be nice if everyone thought just like you, wouldn't it? Sorry. Welcome to America and Freedom Of Speech!
by fred_journeyman » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:45 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:Wow. "someone" actually gets it. Of course I know this.
What you don't know is how much and to what extent. By the way, I am LOVING it.
by Chakra » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:01 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:Rockin'Deano wrote:Wow. "someone" actually gets it. Of course I know this.
What you don't know is how much and to what extent. By the way, I am LOVING it.
That's great, Deano. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts. Who knows, maybe you'll get your ass sued by someone anyway? Wonder where the band will be if/when that happens?
by Liam » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:45 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:Liam,
Lula told me to get rid of it, and I said "I can't." It is too fucking good.
by fred_journeyman » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:38 pm
by A Fire Inside » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:01 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:Crazie Scarab = Deano = ??? This could be fun...
by ArnelRox » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:04 pm
A Fire Inside wrote:fred_journeyman wrote:Crazie Scarab = Deano = ??? This could be fun...
I don't believe CS is Deano... CS is/was a longtime BTer and seems to be known as someone else there.
by conversationpc » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:16 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:Crazie Scarab wrote:Fred, I was always a little leary of you and I've stayed my distance. I will continue to do just that as I think you are nothing but a total asshole. You think you can make change? It ain't gonna happen. You may mean well, Fred, but it ain't gonna happen. Again, this is an internet forum YOU have no control over.
It would be nice if everyone thought just like you, wouldn't it? Sorry. Welcome to America and Freedom Of Speech!
Dean, let me straighten something out for you okay?...
by McNeil » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:35 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:steveforever wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen I give you: Jr. High
What is this all about? Okay so you wear size 12's and he's a size 8, is he prey? has this become a bounty hunter site? I'm not taking up for her/him, but come on.....it sounds like you want to beat him with a chain! Are people snorting entire contents of a veterinary pharmacy at this place now? What's real here and what's make-believe? Run-- run for your life....you poor soul before you are pistol whipped
You know, the interesting thing (at least to me) is that over at BT, you're supposed to "tow the party line," or you'll get canned.
Here, there's a party line too. If you don't tow it, you may not get canned, but everyone who opposes it decides it's their job to vomit all over you.
Not long ago, someone came to this site from that other site saying how great it was that they could post whatever they wanted here. I intoned that if you didn't mind your opinion being trashed if it was disagreed with, then this was the place. The response from that person was something to the effect that he'd rather be told his opinion is crap than have be told (oh so politely) that he couldn't post his dissenting opinion over there.
Told your opinion is crap? Your OPINION is crap? Not facts, but OPINION?
Does anyone else NOT see that these are simply TWO sides to the same coin? Apparently there are those HERE who believe ANY opinion NOT shared by them is open season and not only do they have the right to disagree with it, but they also (somehow) possess the right to make the most idiotic, asinine, crap-filled statements ABOUT the person, not just the person's OPINION. How did THAT happen?
It happened because Deano got the lip-sync'g thing right and now he is Andrew's god, therefore Deano can spew as much as he wants to and only when he crosses some line (that is apparently constantly moving) does Andrew step in with a warning, and possibly a vacation.
Recently, all I saw was Andrew sucking up to Deano for all he was worth because of some supposed mistep that Andrew did toward Deano.
This is absurd. There is no freedom of speech or thought here and certainly the "rules of debate" are not followed. The only rule that seems to be followed is one person trying to outdo another person with caustic remarks.
Andrew, I suggest you rename this forum to "Journey's Animal House." Deano can be Bluto and the rest of us can be fodder for his dislike of anything that doesn't square with his view of Journey. Somehow I find that John Belushi's Bluto is much more compelling and interesting...as opposed to Deano's "I'm going to shit here now, then I'm going to shit over there. Now I think I'll shit here again" while his wannabe followers act like lap dogs trying to eat his shit faster than the next person to prove their worth in Deano's eyes.
Better yet, why not rename it "Journey's Outhouse," or "Journey's Shitter"? Probably more accurate.
Have at it, people. Deano's shitting enough for all of you. Enjoy your dinner folks. Deano, from the conversations we've had in the past, both on the forum and via PM, I've gotten the strong impression that you were a great deal smarter than this.
Talk about a freakin' crowd mentality...
by McNeil » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:39 pm
fred_journeyman wrote:Crazie Scarab wrote:Fred, I was always a little leary of you and I've stayed my distance. I will continue to do just that as I think you are nothing but a total asshole. You think you can make change? It ain't gonna happen. You may mean well, Fred, but it ain't gonna happen. Again, this is an internet forum YOU have no control over.
It would be nice if everyone thought just like you, wouldn't it? Sorry. Welcome to America and Freedom Of Speech!
Dean, let me straighten something out for you okay?
1) You haven't stayed your distance. You used to PM quite a bit and I've kept all of them. Funny how they come in handy. Don't forget, I'm "grandpa" so my memory fades...but your words never do. Hey, maybe everyone would like to know all the nics that you told me you were in a PM to me a while ago? That'd be cool, don't you think?
2) You think I'm a total asshole? Great, maybe I should start printing what you've PM'd me then and we'll all find out who the real asshole is...
3) No, I don't think I can make changes when I'm up against you and your split personalities. I'm simply putting my opinion out there, that's all.
4) Next time you're in a crowded theater, yell "FIRE!" and find out about freedom of speech.
5) I'm not trying to control anything at all. I'm simply making some suggestions to improve the way people communicate here. Did I think it would cause YOU to change? Of course not. You're way too impressed with how base you can be for that. Go for it. It says more about you than anyone else here, in spite of what you think.
And by the way, the reason I referred to you as Dean is because you ARE Deano. So, it's not good enough for you to just use one personality on the board here, you've got to use two (maybe three or four) to impress yourself and make others believe that you have a real following. There are too many reasons that you ARE Dean and I won't waste the bandwidth on this board to list them all, but be a man and admit it.
So, if you have something to say to me, don't hide behind some anonymous nic that gives the impression that there are other people on this board who agree with just about everything you say, post at just about the same time you do and do your dirty work for you when you don't have the balls to do it as yourself, all right?
Thanks Deano.
by McNeil » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:41 pm
Rockin'Deano wrote:fred_journeyman wrote:
Yeah, that's a brilliant post, Deano. Absolutely brilliant. I mean, it's so brilliant that I don't know if you're homophobic, or gay yourself.
It was a joke, Grandpa.In spite of that though, who decided YOU should be the arbiter of what constitutes PASSION and how it is displayed on this board?
I did. I was the fucking guy who took on the Journey Machine and won. I affected change, and guess what? That is NOT self absorbant at all. I am just speaking the truth. Goddammit Fred, look at what we have here? A NEW, blood pumping, fuck you band that kicks tail and YOU should NOT go anywhere! And guess what? I am very responsible for it.Ah...demagoguery. So, you're so much of a genius that you have to ACT like a moron in order to get a point across because the people here are apparently so ridiculously stupid?
Pretty much, yeah.
by McNeil » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:44 pm
JourneyRox wrote:jrnyman28 wrote:I have gone rounds with TNC in the past. I know how he posts. He is merely entering debate, but as I have told him before, he has a way of sounding like he is saying 'you are wrong and I am right' to Andrew. And that is the mentality here often...
It must be the way u discussed things w/TNC jrnyman28 b/c I've had a lot of discussion & debate w/TNC myself via PM. He is a very reasonable, interesting & intellectual person. He doesn't at all act like he's right & ur wrong, unless he IS right & UR wrong, but even then, if discussed reasonably, he's very charming about it. TNC is, in my opinion, one of the most interesting posters here. There are, of course, several others that make this forum interesting.
Like so much else here, I think a lot has to do w/the way things are handled & the approach taken. If u come across like an asshole, most people here hand it back to u. But if ur reasonable, most (excluding macca lookalikes) are reasonable back & allow u respect for ur own opinions (after of course, u have posted a few times to prove ur not a troll).
by Crazie Scarab » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:18 pm
by Crazie Scarab » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:23 pm
McNeil wrote:Dynamite Fred... Deano posting up as several different people... haha .. hope u have the proof... would love to see it!! explains a lot here.... I was convinced peoples IQ was seriously low here... but now it seems that ..it was him all along!!
by SteveForever » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:37 am
by McNeil » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:19 am
Crazie Scarab wrote:McNeil wrote:Dynamite Fred... Deano posting up as several different people... haha .. hope u have the proof... would love to see it!! explains a lot here.... I was convinced peoples IQ was seriously low here... but now it seems that ..it was him all along!!
Unlike you, everybody elses IQ around here requires two or three digits.
by McNeil » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:20 am
Crazie Scarab wrote:Fred, if you think I'm Dean you couldn't be more wrong. But, I must say I got a good laugh out of that!
by fred_journeyman » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:32 am
A Fire Inside wrote:fred_journeyman wrote:Crazie Scarab = Deano = ??? This could be fun...
I don't believe CS is Deano... CS is/was a longtime BTer and seems to be known as someone else there.
by fred_journeyman » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:33 am
Crazie Scarab wrote:Fred, if you think I'm Dean you couldn't be more wrong. But, I must say I got a good laugh out of that!
by fred_journeyman » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:34 am
conversationpc wrote:Crazie Scarab is Brian, not Dean. Two completely different people.
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