Question for Perry-Heads

[fred-journeyman]

Firstly, I do know that others post their opinion over and over and over again. That is why I tried to get the "less is more" point across to you. Sometimes, people (myself included) get sick and tired of reading the same opinion over and over in thread after thread. We get your point of veiw, it doesn't have to be stated multiple times in every thread. If some one does not get your point after a couple of explanations, they are not going to, and are basically just trying to get your ire up. I have been on this site for at least 4yrs, I do not have a high post count, basically because I try to get into a thread post my point of view, and get out. Have there been exceptions for me, yes, but I try to keep them limited. There is no changing anyone's mind on this board thru quality debate or bitter profanity. It is hard to resist the urge I know, but IMO it seems best to post your opinion, maybe answer one or two other posts, and then get the hell out. I am not trying to stifle anyones freedom of speech here by these comments, just my opinion how this place seems to work for me.

So essentially, what you're saying is that you are encouraging me to try to post LESS, is that correct. By less, I mean, make my point with fewer words and don't repeat myself. Seems to me that would somehow affect my freedom of speech, in a negative way. Afterall, I tried to encourage people to use more intelligence and less foul language (which too often derails threads), however I was accused of all kinds of things. I'm not sure why you think it is imperative for you to try and reel me in to YOUR way of thinking. It makes no sense to me.

Secondly, I am not saying that people who are not fans of "now" Journey should not be allowed to post. I am asking why there is an intrest to post and post so vehemently about a subject that you admitedly have little concern about. If I was a Perry only fan, I would not be frequenting this board and posting here. I would have no vested intrest because Perry is not in the band anymore. I still to this day, after being here for 4yrs or so, don't understand why the Perry only fans like to come here and rain on the parade of fans of the current Journey. Are they Knights of the Perry roundtable who must defend Perry's honor at every slight made his way? I do not go to Perryville and defend Cain or Schon's honor at every turn? In fact I have never been to that site because I have no vested interest in what is said there. When there was a Perry board here, I never viewed it.

But once again, you are trying to fit ME into the pigeon hole that you've created. I don't fit, so it confuses you. If I want to post here, there or anywhere, I can, just like you. If you have no vested interest in posting somewhere, that's totally up to you. I don't tell YOU where to post, do I?

Ok off my soap box and done with this thread.

Great. Thanks.

fred_journeyman

[NealIsGod]

This is the longest minute in recorded history.

[L~L~L]

Fred it is of no use to try and explain to these people that all you want is a bit of respect and more intelligent posting around here.
Don't go anywhere I really enjoy reading your posts as it is food for thought. Thanks.

[fred-journeyman]

First, I do not want to stifle all "discussion" of SP or his involvement in Journey. Some of the remarks become a little tiresome. Example: A thread is started about how JSS sang this tune well the other night. Without a doubt multiple people will chime in with Perry did it better. That is great and I bet alot of people would agree (probably including myself), but we are discussing the Journey of today. I don't understand the CONSTANT need to inject Steve Perry into almost every thread. Am I going to change anything or anyones mind or opinion by stating this? I have been around this board long enough to know that will never happen. Some here are just Knights in the Steve Perry round table. And, at least to me it gets annoying at times.

But please, let's try to reason through this...if you are experiencing frustration at the CONSTANT need to inject Steve Perry, then maybe what you should do is 1) either start your own threads that have nothing to do with Perry 2) try to bring the thread back on topic by posting things that are directly related to the topic 3) ignore the Steve Perry posts or finally 4) start your own Journey board and do not allow the posts that constantly pump up Perry.

Secondly, some of my comments were directed specifically towards Fred. As of late, he has been very adamant about his lack of interest in current Journey and any anticipation of new music from the band. I still do not understand his (and some others here) NEED to post on a topic (Journey) that he acknowleges he has no further interest in. I mean it either still interests you or it doesn't, no shades of gray there.

But it's not for YOU to understand, SF. Who cares how I post or what I say? Why does it matter to you? Why are you losing sleep over it? Regarding my interest in Journey, you have misinterpreted what I have said, even though I have succintly stated it recently. Let me state it again for you:

I have NO interest in seeing the current Journey IN CONCERT. I would love it if they produce NEW music and incorporate at least some of that music IN CONCERT and I don't mean using it as an introduction before they get on stage. Will they produce new music? It's possible, but I doubt it. Will they incorporate any new music LIVE in concert? It's possible, but I doubt it. The only "new" music they seem to be incorporating is the stuff that was either never played or rarely played when Perry fronted the band.

Now, if I feel like waiting around here like everyone else to see what will happen, I can do that. It's up to me (or Andrew if I break any rules). Why YOU are so concerned about HOW I post, how OFTEN I post, how often I REPEAT myself, or whether or not I'm for or against today's Journey is moot. It makes no difference to me, SF, no more than if I critiqued your posting methods and provided you with a list of ways in which you should change, you would immediately go out and do it. My posting methods should make no difference to YOU, unless I am constantly attacking you, which I am not and never have.

When I encouraged people to use less foul language, I did so because I was tired of seeing threads derailed because of all the times the threads would denigrate into a feces slinging fest. That was met with abject disapproval. Fine. Let the monkeys toss crap at each other if that's what they like. Let them continue to derail threads. If that's what the majority of people on this board want and Andrew has no problem with it, wonderful.

I hope we're clear, but if not, feel free to PM me, all right?

fred_journeyman

[SF-Dano]

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