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[ArnelRox]

I'm not sure what that comment(s) is supposed to be. Is it your attempt at insult? It's mundane and not at all creative.

No Fred, I was stating a fact. I thought u left. U said u left, u promised u left. Then u came right back.

Don't get so paranoid. Everything isn't about insulting u.

[MCC620]

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN. I SAID THEY DID NOT NEED AN INVITATION TO ATTEND THE HARD ROCK PARTY BECAUSE IT WAS ON THEIR OFFICIAL DIXIE HIGHWWAY SITE. AGAIN YOU TWISTED THE COMMENT TO BE ABOUT SOUR GRAPES. HOW ABOUT YOU GO INTO YOUR SEX AND BOOZE THREAD AND GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

U seem to be missing the point. Jeff & Ross attended a party on THURSDAY nite. Did u get that? Thursday. They did not attend ANY pre-show party on Friday. Not the one at Hard Rock nor the one at Carlos O'Charlies (or whatever it's called).

& by the way, CRL doesn't go into the Sex & Booze thread so leave her out of this.

I was responding to her and if she doesn't go in there then I apologise to her. But if she is not happy with the comments here then she should not read them. Just like I am told to go "eat a donut" when I comment on something I don't like.

No I missed no point. Party Thursday in my opinion it was in bad taste and disrespectful to his so-called friend Frank for Ross to show up where Deano was. Jeff I guess I just expected it from him. MY OPINION....MY BEEF WITH THE BAND. I didn't bring it here. I posted it on BT, it was closed, which I expected, but enough people saw it to question it themselves.

[fred_journeyman]

I agree with Marty on the whole free speech issue. Seems you can't say anything unless you agree with the majority.

That is the ABSOLUTE truth. You're only free to post an opinion IF it follows the party line here. If it does NOT, then you are supposed to SHUT UP!

I do NOT tell people to NOT post about Sex, Alcohol or Rude or anything else. I tried asking people to post without all the vulgarity because it tends to hijack threads rather quickly. I was told that I should STOP BEING THE INTERNET POLICE and that I should STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLE'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Now, I just ignore those particular posts. It's EASY. Anyone can do it...UNLESS of course they feel a particular NEED to make sure everyone here thinks the same, acts the same, talks to the same and if they don't...then SHUT UP!

[ohsherrie]

After reading this thread I wouldn't be surprised of they just said "f**k it, no more parties for us". Do you people realize you sound like middle school students who wound up going to the less popular birthday party? Yeah, I know you don't normally pay ILAA prices for a birthday party but if it's supposed to be about the music and the concert experience and you're paying for the prime seats for the concert, what does it have to do with the parties? Geez, these guys are human beings who perform music that you pay to hear played live at a concert. They're not some commodity that you pay for the right to have personal contact with. Those kinds of people are called prostitutes. If they chose to go to a party where they felt that they would be more comfortable than at a PR event with people asking them about their "wiggle God" I think that's perfectly understandable.

[AR]

And we should give a shit why? Drop your superiority complex Fred. I was starting to actually like you. Maybe some of us just enjoy life in different ways?

You know what dude? The reason you don't "like" me is because you are constantly filtering my words through your preconceived template. You should NOT "give a shit." My point was directed at ME and my lack of desire to attend a party like that. If you feel I was commenting on YOU, that's your problem. I don't care WHAT you do or how OFTEN you do it. There are gay people in this world, cross dressers in this world, people who enjoy drugs, people who enjoy alcohol - I DON'T CARE!! It has NOTHING to do with any perceived "superiority" complex at all. It has more to do with the fact that I found out quite some time ago that I am ALLERGIC TO MANY TYPES OF ALCOHOL!!!

I don't care what type of party people attend or how they enjoy themselves AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HURT ANYONE IN THE PROCESS OR GET IN A CAR AND DRIVE.

Are we clear on this now?

You need to chill out and enjoy life Fred. I know that I do.

[fred_journeyman]

No Fred, I was stating a fact. I thought u left. U said u left, u promised u left. Then u came right back.

No, I asked Andrew to block my IP address so that I wouldn't be tempted to return. I never promised I left.

Don't get so paranoid. Everything isn't about insulting u.

I'm not paranoid at all. It has nothing to do with paranoia (and your use of it in this context doesn't even make sense). Just basing my conclusions on the way you naturally post with anyone with whom you disagree.

[Citygirl]

I think it's been made pretty clear what and possibly who the band is in favour of.

One thing I've noticed is that Jon is never mentioned. Where is Big Jonathan when all the other guys are mixing in with you lot? No-one has ever said much about him at all.

[ArnelRox]

No I missed no point. Party Thursday in my opinion it was in bad taste and disrespectful to his so-called friend Frank for Ross to show up where Deano was. Jeff I guess I just expected it from him. MY OPINION....MY BEEF WITH THE BAND. I didn't bring it here. I posted it on BT, it was closed, which I expected, but enough people saw it to question it themselves.

Why is that in such bad taste? Sheesh. When were u appointed to judge the moral values of the band & make sure they're kept in check?

[Monker]

And where exactly are the other intersting discussions?

Well, there was my "Pond" thread, LOL.

[Clasicrockldy]

Hmmmnnn.... I think you're out of order here CRL. I thought this forum was all about free speech, but it seems to me its only free speech if it conforms to the views of the forum bullies.

Marty

Marty, I am not a bully. I am just mad. This topic has been dragging on for a few days now, and really, I don't see any need to beat it to death. The situation is done and in the past, and no amount of kvetching about it after the fact is going to change anything. It is others who, for some reason, have a beef about JSS and Ross going to an MR party. I don't have any problems with it, but others do. And now I think they should just get over it.

I am all for free speech. I am just reacting to what I am seeing here in this forum. I wouldn't know how to be a bully to tell you the truth. All I am asking when I shout is to just get over it. Nothing more can be accomplished by going over and over it again.

Truce?

[AR]

I think it's been made pretty clear what and possibly who the band is in favour of.

One thing I've noticed is that Jon is never mentioned. Where is Big Jonathan when all the other guys are mixing in with you lot? No-one has ever said much about him at all.

From what I gather, Jon is pretty private. I have met him a couple times and he couldn't be any nicer. Loved the McNair jersey he had at the show.

[fred_journeyman]

You need to chill out and enjoy life Fred. I know that I do.

AR, you need to stop reading into my comments and posts and becoming unglued when you think you see something that isn't there. You're the one who was totally "unchilled" with your response to my post. You were wrong about what I meant and you can't even admit it. You then simply turn it around as if it is STILL somehow my fault.

[Monker]

No I have nothing to say in the booze and sex thread because I'm not inclined to find that childish stuff amusing. And where exactly are the other intersting discussions?

Oh I see. Adults don't have sex & don't drink alcohol. Gee I really hope I am never an adult then.

No, but it's pretty high-school'ish to go about posting about it in a public forum

[Tom Jrnyfn]

Bottom line..Stu is friends with Ross and Lu has been a friend of Jeff's since the Soul Sirkus days..Nothing more, nothing less..

[ArnelRox]

No, I asked Andrew to block my IP address so that I wouldn't be tempted to return. I never promised I left.

Damn I really wish Andrew listened to u.

I'm not paranoid at all. It has nothing to do with paranoia (and your use of it in this context doesn't even make sense). Just basing my conclusions on the way you naturally post with anyone with whom you disagree.

Look obviously u don't like me. If u have a problem w/my personality, u should take it to PM. Or does it make u feel like a big man to try to run me down on the public forum?

[Amanda]

From what I gather, Jon is pretty private. I have met him a couple times and he couldn't be any nicer. Loved the McNair jersey he had at the show.

He once even offered to get on the table and bark like a dog for me.

[The_Noble_Cause]

One thing I've noticed is that Jon is never mentioned. Where is Big Jonathan when all the other guys are mixing in with you lot?

Out buying heart-shaped soap cakes and reading the new Testament.

[AR]

This thread is comical. You have maybe 3 or 4 bitter fans who have nothing better to do bitching. Meanwhile I have made about 50 new friends who were all AWESOME!

EVERYONE on this board, including those that do not like me, could have came over to my place or the pre-show. I went out of my way on this and this thread is nothing but a bunch of bitter people who were offered the same opportunity as anyone else.

Get over it.

[fred_journeyman]

Damn I really wish Andrew listened to u.

He did, but then invited me back.

Look obviously u don't like me. If u have a problem w/my personality, u should take it to PM. Or does it make u feel like a big man to try to run me down on the public forum?

No different than you coming after me with your attempts at insults and childishness on this forum. Doesn't make me feel one way or another about you. All of this is simply electronic graffiti. Nothing more. Nothing less. If my retorts are getting to you, it would be your problem.

[ArnelRox]

No, but it's pretty high-school'ish to go about posting about it in a public forum

I don't frequent high school forums so I don't know what they talk about there. However, on many adult forums (not adult content, just adult members) subjects of sex & booze come up. Just b/c u don't get any doesn't mean that other adults don't!

[Citygirl]

Amanda, the mind boggles as to what you get up to

And TNC, what a great answer *sarcasm*. I expected nothing else from you.

[Ms_M]

From what I gather, Jon is pretty private. I have met him a couple times and he couldn't be any nicer. Loved the McNair jersey he had at the show.

He once even offered to get on the table and bark like a dog for me.

I remember seeing that. Did you tell him to do it??

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's statements like these that only serve to cement your status as forum bully.

Thank you for alerting me to a reputation I was heretofore unaware existed.
Speaking of concrete, go get fucked by a shale cock.

[NealIsGod]

This thread is comical. You have maybe 3 or 4 bitter fans who have nothing better to do bitching. Meanwhile I have made about 50 new friends who were all AWESOME!

EVERYONE on this board, including those that do not like me, could have came over to my place or the pre-show. I went out of my way on this and this thread is nothing but a bunch of bitter people who were offered the same opportunity as anyone else.

Get over it.

True fucking dat.

[AR]

You need to chill out and enjoy life Fred. I know that I do.

AR, you need to stop reading into my comments and posts and becoming unglued when you think you see something that isn't there. You're the one who was totally "unchilled" with your response to my post. You were wrong about what I meant and you can't even admit it. You then simply turn it around as if it is STILL somehow my fault.

I will do whatever I want, as long as it's within Andrew's guidelines. I've noticed as much as you want the board to talk about "Journey" that you never once asked how the show was.

[ArnelRox]

No different than you coming after me with your attempts at insults and childishness on this forum. Doesn't make me feel one way or another about you. All of this is simply electronic graffiti. Nothing more. Nothing less. If my retorts are getting to you, it would be your problem.

I don't come after u Fred. U are the one who has posted after me. Scroll up. Open the old eyes & read.

Ur retorts aren't getting to me at all. They're stupid & show just how much of an idiot u are. Nothing more.

[Monker]

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have anything to do with Monker's post because I definitely do not see Monker as a BT'r...do you?

Let's say part-time BTer...I did read the digital photography posts, which were interesting. But, in general, it's fairly "eh." to me. There is not enough 'wiggle' room within the 'rules' for me to be there much any longer.

[Amanda]

I remember seeing that. Did you tell him to do it??

Nah, I was a nervous, babbling teenager meeting Journey for the first time. Stole his Sharpie though... accidently. Would take him up on the offer nowadays, though... haha.

[fred_journeyman]

...You have maybe 3 or 4 bitter fans...

I am NOT a bitter fan, but I notice AGAIN that this is how anyone, who does not tow the party line here is categorized.

Funny how someone can say "You're jealous" and then it becomes the rage and yup, that must it.

Truth be told, some of you would not be returning to this thread as often as you do unless you enjoyed the disagreement.

[ArnelRox]

This thread is comical. You have maybe 3 or 4 bitter fans who have nothing better to do bitching. Meanwhile I have made about 50 new friends who were all AWESOME!

EVERYONE on this board, including those that do not like me, could have came over to my place or the pre-show. I went out of my way on this and this thread is nothing but a bunch of bitter people who were offered the same opportunity as anyone else.

Get over it.

I think I said that 3 pages ago & I know CRL has said it too. Maybe if we keep saying it, they'll finally hear it? Maybe not.