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Postby Eric » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:02 am

whocares wrote:Why not "confess" now? He can't be retried for murder anymore, SO, why not say, ok, I admit I did it. Come on, only about 10-15% (if that much) of the population that "cares", thinks he's innocent. It was troubling to hear that "news" on the radio this morning, I rolled over and asked, did we just hear that? Sadly the answer was yup!


Is it because of Double Jeopardy that he can't be re-tried?
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Postby Liz22562 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:13 am

Found this article on MSN:


Could O.J. Go to Court Again?
If he did it, here's what might happen.
By Daniel Engber
Posted Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006, at 6:35 PM ET
Download the MP3 audio version of this story here, or sign up for The Explainer's free daily podcast on iTunes.

Later this month, O.J. Simpson will appear on Fox in a two-hour special called If I Did It, Here's How It Happened. According to a news release, Simpson will explain "how he would have carried out the murders he has vehemently denied committing for over a decade." Could O.J. go back to court because of something he says on TV?

It's not impossible. The Bill of Rights protects Simpson from being tried twice for the same crime. But double jeopardy protection isn't absolute, and a criminal who's acquitted once could still end up behind bars. Here are a few scenarios that might result in Simpson's return to court.

1. They could go after him for lying. California prosecutors can't retry O.J. for the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. They are free to haul him back before a judge if they think he committed another crime—like perjury, or lying to the police.


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Actual risk to O.J.: None. Simpson never actually testified under oath at his own trial. At one point, he did announce to the court, "I did not, could not, and would not have committed this crime," but he wasn't on the witness stand. (Click here for an audio clip.)

He'd be in the clear even if he had lied on the stand. The statute of limitations for perjury in California is three years, and the Simpson trial ended more than a decade ago. Likewise, any criminal liability O.J. might have for obstructing the duties of California police officers would have lapsed many years ago.

2. The feds could charge him with civil rights violations. The principle of "dual sovereignty" overrides Simpson's double-jeopardy protections. That means he could be tried in federal court for the same crimes he was acquitted of in state court. The precedent for this goes back to 1922, when a gang of Washington moonshiners were prosecuted under both state and federal prohibition laws. (Crimes that occur in multiple states are also subject to double prosecution.)

Actual risk to O.J.: Minimal. It turns out there's no statute of limitations on federal civil rights cases involving murder. In theory, federal prosecutors could go after O.J. at any time under Title 18, Section 242 or Section 245.

But it's very unlikely that the Justice Department would press civil rights charges. First, the department's "Petite Policy" strongly discourages prosecutors from pursuing cases that have already been tried in state court. Second, it would be hard to make a civil rights charge stick, given the facts of the case: O.J. isn't a government employee; the victims weren't murdered on public property; and there's no evidence of a hate crime.

That's not to say it couldn't happen. In 1984, the feds stepped in and convicted a California Highway Patrolman of civil rights violations for murdering an actress two years before. (His trials in state court had ended in hung juries.) In the 1990s, a federal court in Los Angeles convicted two of the police officers who had been acquitted in state court for the videotaped beating of Rodney King.

3. Someone could go after him for fraud. If Simpson confesses his guilt on national television, it's possible that he'd be on the hook for any money he made as a result of maintaining his innocence for the past 11 years.

Actual risk to O.J.: Uncertain. It depends on what Simpson has been up to recently. If he'd raised money to help find his wife's killer, for example, he'd certainly be exposed to prosecution for fraud. We do know that O.J. has appeared in a sleazy DVD called Juiced, in which he makes frequent jokes about the murders and his trial.

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If Simpson did end up in court, could his televised "hypothetical" confession be used against him? Yes. The fact that he's beginning every sentence with "If I did it … " might give him a little bit of wiggle room, but it doesn't grant him any kind of immunity. His hypothetical confession will still be damning if it reveals any new information about the case that only the killer could have known.
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Postby yak » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:08 pm

You are so right. At least Scott Petersen got convicted.... Michael Jackson - he has become such a freak of nature. Well, wait, it's not even natural what he looks like now. I guess he's just a freak. :roll:


True, I understand what you're saying, but I was distinctly referring to Jackson being a pedophile.

Some interesting food for thought....immediately after the verdict, in the post trial inteview.... the overweight hayseed (wearing a plaid man type shirt, bottled water in hand).....who was laughing like a fool...and obviously enjoying the limelight after exonerating a pedophile....along with an eldery male juror, consequently came out with a book about the trial. She had apparently been taking notes, as a juror, during the trial, (something that's illegal) for the pre-planned book. When the book was about to be released, a news report said she could qualify for jail time for her activities, then the story unceremoniously disappeared.

Her excuse for not convicting Jackson? "Because there was no evidence." :roll:
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:23 pm

I read an article in my local paper today about this damn book. Denise Brown is furious at the publisher for publishing the book. Denise also said this in the article....... " It's unfortunate that Simpson decided to awaken a nightmare that we have painfully endured adn worked so hard to move beyond."
Also, this litte paragraph closed the article:

" The victim's families could go after the proceeds from this book's sales to pay off the judgement. But one legal analyst said there are ways to get around that requirement- such as having the proceeds not go directly to Simpson"

Credit. Erin McClam-Associated Press 11-16-06

Now doesn't that last paragraph make you sick in the fact that Simpson will go that route? :evil:
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Postby Shadowsong » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:28 pm

narcissistic egomaniac
caught in the heat of the moment
he saw red
and then 2 lay dead!

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Postby yak » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:29 pm

Sallee, can you fill me in? Last I knew, any money Simpson "earned" would go to offset any money owed through the judgement. What happened?
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:52 pm

yak wrote:Sallee, can you fill me in? Last I knew, any money Simpson "earned" would go to offset any money owed through the judgement. What happened?


Ok.... from what I have read in this small article, Simpson's Florida home cannot be legally seized, nor his NFL pension attached. That sucks big time because I firmly believe that everything he owns should be seized to pay that 33.5 million judgement against him. It is sick for him to be basically living the "good life", and not taking responsibility of paying that judgement.

Simpson, from what I have gathered, hasn't paid the victim's families diddly squat ! :evil:
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:27 pm

I heard a radio report on this earlier today. Simpson puts everything he makes into his offshore properties, one in Bermuda that I can remember.... so no one can touch it. He's been schooled rather effectively in how to hide all his assets and keep the Goldmans and Browns from anything from the settlement.

Ya know... Karma is a beautiful thing. May not be in our time frame, but eventually, all things come round again.
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Re: OT-----IF I DID IT--- OJ's book

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:47 pm

Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:10 pm

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..


Besides Fox, who is airing the interview, who are the dumbass sponsors? :?
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:17 pm

Clasicrockldy wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..


Besides Fox, who is airing the interview, who are the dumbass sponsors? :?


probably not know until it airs,,
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Re: OT-----IF I DID IT--- OJ's book

Postby Carlitto H@kk » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:17 pm

Clasicrockldy wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..


Besides Fox, who is airing the interview, who are the dumbass sponsors? :?


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Postby Calbear94 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:19 pm

Ms_M wrote:
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Cheska wrote:The Goldman family should hire someone to butcher OJ...that would solve everything


I'm sure that thought has crossed their minds many times


I remember hearing that Nicole's sister (I think it was Denise) had friends in the mob. I always wondered why something didn't just "happen" to OJ.


As much as they may despise him, they wouldn't want to further traumatize their grandchildren.
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Re: OT-----IF I DID IT--- OJ's book

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:22 pm

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..


Besides Fox, who is airing the interview, who are the dumbass sponsors? :?


Calphalon Knives
Men's Isotoner Gloves
and the New 2007 Limited Edition Ford Bronco
that only comes in white, has tinted windows and an
in-dash police scanner for those days that you're
on the run!

:lol: :twisted: :lol:
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pretty funny dude,, and quick!!!!!! :lol:,,,,,,,,,uh kinda,, them knives are scarey...
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Postby Shadowsong » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:23 pm

:lol:
PRetty sharp!
Ouch
You forgot Dr Scholls
Gives you the extra comfort edge on the run!

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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:26 am

This news coming out the other day made me do some surfing on this thing.

Looking back on it, I wonder if there's ever been a CONVICTION with a mountain of evidence this high let alone an aquittal.

I was laughing out loud pretty hard at some of the smoking guns he left.
Bloody footprints.

Bloody F'ing Footprints containing Nicole, Goldman, and The Juice's blood are at her house, HIS house, in the bronco....

That's something mystery writers don't even write into books b/c it's too implausible.

But Orenthal left them all over the place.


And he didn't do it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :) :D :lol: :lol:
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Postby Perry86fan » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:36 am

How can this asshole get off?If it had been you or me we would be gone by now.It still makes me mad that he got off and the damn gloves give me a break here ....to me it looked like he was not even trying to get them on.I just wish he had let it alone but that money %#@*&^%$% asshole .There is an old saying and i do believe in it. What goes roundcomes around .And i just have to hold on to that.
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Re: OT-----IF I DID IT--- OJ's book

Postby Blueskies » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:38 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Eric wrote:Who are the sponsors...thats what I wanna know!


Leno asked everyone to boycott the sponsors..thats pretty huge..


Besides Fox, who is airing the interview, who are the dumbass sponsors? :?


Calphalon Knives
Men's Isotoner Gloves
and the New 2007 Limited Edition Ford Bronco
that only comes in white, has tinted windows and an
in-dash police scanner for those days that you're
on the run!

:lol: :twisted: :lol:
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pretty funny dude,, and quick!!!!!! :lol:,,,,,,,,,uh kinda,, them knives are scarey...
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Postby yak » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:36 am

Ok.... from what I have read in this small article, Simpson's Florida home cannot be legally seized, nor his NFL pension attached. That sucks big time because I firmly believe that everything he owns should be seized to pay that 33.5 million judgement against him. It is sick for him to be basically living the "good life", and not taking responsibility of paying that judgement.



That's outrageous, Sallee! Why have laws in place so the criminals can stomp all over them? You know, it almost seems as though he is in everybody's face on purpose...because he knows he got away with it. Of course the glove didn't fit...after being soaked in blood, and dried, the leather had shrunk. Talk about a starstruck...and extremely stupid jury.





"Why the publisher did it:" :roll:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061117/ap_ ... book_regan

A while back there was a news report that Simpson's daughter called 9-11 on him. I personally think these kids would be better off without him around. The "what goes around, comes back around," can't come soon enough for me and a lot of people.
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Postby fred_journeyman » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:03 am

Red13JoePa wrote:But Orenthal left them all over the place.


And he didn't do it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :) :D :lol: :lol:


Oh come on, everyone knows that it was a complete set up by the police. Gee, I wish everyone would just leave poor OJ alone... :D
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Postby fred_journeyman » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:05 am

yak wrote:Of course the glove didn't fit...after being soaked in blood, and dried, the leather had shrunk.


That and the fact that he put on a latex glove FIRST before trying on the glove. Oh, plus he's an actor. He only made it LOOK like he was struggling to get the glove to fit.
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Postby yak » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:07 pm

"Fox Stations Rebel Against Network’s Decision to Run O. J. Simpson Interview"



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/20/busin ... mpson.html
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Postby Just Mindy » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:18 pm

“Discussion of such a subject is just harmful and disrespectful, and we cannot understand the need for such content to be produced and broadcast.”

What a pleasant surprise...kudos to them for making this decision. Thanks Yak.
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:36 pm

Bill O'Reilly is outraged and speaking out strongly against his network for doing this. He said he won't buy the book or watch the interview and is boycotting any sponsor of the program. This is the first time I've ever respected anything he's said.
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Postby chickpea » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:42 pm

They said something on GMA this morning about OJ putting the proceeds in accounts for his and Nicole's children. I just caught the tail end of it though so I'm not sure how that would work.
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Postby yak » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:48 am

What a pleasant surprise...kudos to them for making this decision. Thanks Yak.


You're welcome.


Bill O'Reilly is outraged and speaking out strongly against his network for doing this. He said he won't buy the book or watch the interview and is boycotting any sponsor of the program. This is the first time I've ever respected anything he's said.




He actually gets outraged about a lot of things. O'Reilly is an independent thinker; he has been called both a Conservative and a Liberal. He is neither. He has called for the resignation of judges who gave child molesters a sentence of getting phychiatric help and NO prison time. He's for secure borders. He's against eminent domain to take away somebody's private property to build condos. I don't agree with him on everything, and don't watch him on a regular basis, but you obviously don't watch much.



They said something on GMA this morning about OJ putting the proceeds in accounts for his and Nicole's children. I just caught the tail end of it though so I'm not sure how that would work.



Do you think that has something to do with all the uproar this "interview" is causing? Of course, saying it, and actually DOING it, are two different things.
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Postby Eric » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:58 am

Bill O'Reilly is outraged and speaking out strongly against his network for doing this. He said he won't buy the book or watch the interview and is boycotting any sponsor of the program. This is the first time I've ever respected anything he's said.


I don't believe Fox NEWS Channel and Fox Broadcasting really have anything to do with each other.....I know there is ownership issues, but....

He actually gets outraged about a lot of things. O'Reilly is an independent thinker; he has been called both a Conservative and a Liberal. He is neither. He has called for the resignation of judges who gave child molesters a sentence of getting phychiatric help and NO prison time. He's for secure borders. He's against eminent domain to take away somebody's private property to build condos. I don't agree with him on everything, and don't watch him on a regular basis, but you obviously don't watch much.


Many people don't like him because there are a lot of evil media who want to bring him down. They don't agree with him, they are jealius of his success, he poses a threat to their way of thinking, etc. They take part of what he says - out of context - and then call him a liar. They take mistakes he admits he makes and call him a liar. He is very aggressive about what he believes...and you can trust him.
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:48 am

I am listening to WLS radio in Chicago. Jim Johmson just reported in the news segment that Fox has canceled the OJ interview . Now they are saying Judith Regan's book is not going to be published either.
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Postby ArnelRox » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:13 am

squirt1 wrote:I am listening to WLS radio in Chicago. Jim Johmson just reported in the news segment that Fox has canceled the OJ interview . Now they are saying Judith Regan's book is not going to be published either.


I just saw that too. Hooray. Someone got some sense.
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Postby yak » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:14 am

Many people don't like him because there are a lot of evil media who want to bring him down. They don't agree with him, they are jealius of his success, he poses a threat to their way of thinking, etc. They take part of what he says - out of context - and then call him a liar. They take mistakes he admits he makes and call him a liar. He is very aggressive about what he believes...and you can trust him.


Good points.






I am listening to WLS radio in Chicago. Jim Johmson just reported in the news segment that Fox has
canceled the OJ interview . Now they are saying Judith Regan's book is not going to be published either.


You're correct. Common sense (and a lot of cancellations) have prevailed.


"News Corp. Cancels O.J. Simpson Book and TV Special"

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly ... 38,00.html
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