Ok, It's On. BT is Fair Game

[Rockindeano]

Well, and I wrote this out in a post earlier, and even mentioned it to Lula between fuck sessions , and she was against it, but I was ready to unite the Boards and fan bases..well, at least try to anyways. JSS sure would as Hell like it if we could mend fences, or in our cases, the Great Fucking Wall.....Anyway.....

You all want a good chuckle? I literally shit my pants when I read this. Remember good ole Penny(Augeri1)? Yeah, the one who went head to head with me during TG, and got her fat ass rolled? Yeah, the one who looks like she can eat an entire Walmart Lunchroom? Yeah, that one. Well, in the case in TG, perhaps she just doesn't play with a full deck.

Read this gem from BT.....Warning, put down any drink you may have and remove all sharp objects within reach



Held back? Did he not co-write the majority of this album? If he was held back it would be his own fault. Such songs as Butterfly made up the best part of the entire album..actually only a couple good tracks is right..and both were written by the one man who some of you seem extremely eager to see go away. What will you focus your lives on once the band finally addresses this issue..let me guess, the music?


Maybe God isn't perfect. He definitely fucked up when he created this ball of shit.

[TheJourneyLuvah]

Butterfly's beautiful, like your soul.

Stop pretending your a bad ass, you big ball of fur.

[Carrington]

Your on your game Deano..........tear thier ass up!!

[TheJourneyLuvah]

You are a groupie.

[Carrington]

You are a groupie.

Thats okay, at least I'm not a troll.........

[Crazie Scarab]

Butterfly's beautiful, like your soul.

Actually, "Butterfly" is skipped whenever I listen to the disc. And, besides that, you are a fraud.

[jestor92]

I'm making my judgement on Generations (which I have posted before):

Songs I like off Generations in no order:

Faith in the Heartland
A Better Life
Every Generation (though it doesn't sound all that good live)
Knowing that You Love Me (IMO the best Augeri-era ballad)
Gone Crazy (I loved the idea that they tried something different and the loved the Dean's sound)
Beyond the Clouds

To a lesser extent
The Place In Your Heart
Out of Harms Way
In Self Defense (Why re-record an old song, especially a Perry co-write?)
Better Together

Just Pure Crap:
Believe
Butterfly
Pride Of The Family (Have only heard it once or twice, didn't do much for me)

Am I saying Augeri is a bad writer? No as I did like Live and Breathe, To Be Alive Again, All The Way, and We Will Meet Again from Arrival.

My biggest complaint with Augeri was he had no stage presence when I saw him, totally sucked the last time I saw the band live because his voice was totally dead (6-30-06), and the singing behind backing tapes really ruined his reputation in my eyes and if he were to come back to Journey as vocalist, they're losing me as a fan.

[Mandi]

OK, this is not my fight, and not my business, but I just can't sit here and say nothing!

Isn't there anyone here who is capable of taking the high road, just once???? ANYONE?

Can't all this nonsense stop, and just let it go? The insults of BT'ers, the bashing of Steve Augeri, and the bickering is childish. Besides, its the weekend, and Andrew has enough to do these days, without coming in here, getting all bent, and stressed out because no one can play fair.

This place is going downhill, fast. Please stop before things really get out of hand, and Andrew has to lock the whole place down. No one wants that, right? So come on, play nice.

Mandi

[Rockindeano]

Mandi,

You are wrong.

You want everyone to hold hands and suck on each others' genitals? The topic is legitimate, hence it was on a PUBLIC message Board. I was trying to show how incredibly retarded these people are. To say Butterfly was a well written song and Believe as well, needs to be addressed. It is not a matter of objectivity...Butterfly and Believe should NEVER have the Journey name next to it. Neal fucked up allowing this to happen.

[Mandi]

Hey Dean!

No, thank you. I will pass on the hand holding and genital sucking (for now). I understand where you are coming from with this, but at the same time I am also trying to avoid a collision with Andrew and his feelings about the BT posts. Just trying to keep the peace with him, after all it is his board and those are his rules.

You are entitled to have your opinions and say it anyway you choose, but I just don't want to see things go bad. Know what I mean??
Just trying to help. I'll go away now.

Mandi

[Rockindeano]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

[Moon Beam]

Dean'o you started the thread so
I'm blaming you for the lame ass
screen representation.
Fuck!, what the hell did you do to
screw the screen more than it was?

If Sarah likes to suck on wiggle
way more than whats being offered
now in soul, I will succumb to her opinions.
I just want to know that it's her.
Damn fuckin trolls have me seeing screwy.

[Crazie Scarab]

Dean'o you started the thread so
I'm blaming you for the lame ass
screen representation.
Fuck!, what the hell did you do to
screw the screen more than it was?

If Sarah likes to suck on wiggle
way more than whats being offered
now in soul, I will succumb to her opinions.
I just want to know that it's her.
Damn fuckin trolls have me seeing screwy.

Please know that TheJourneyLuvah is NOT Sarah. There is absolutely ZERO reason to believe it is her. Trust me on this.

[Moon Beam]

I figured as much CS and have been
notified of it.
Spanks, I ain't wanting no waves, but
trolls gives me the heevy jeevies
no what I mean Jelly Bean?

[Saint John]

Well, and I wrote this out in a post earlier, and even mentioned it to Lula between fuck sessions , and she was against it, but I was ready to unite the Boards and fan bases..well, at least try to anyways. JSS sure would as Hell like it if we could mend fences, or in our cases, the Great Fucking Wall.....Anyway.....

You all want a good chuckle? I literally shit my pants when I read this. Remember good ole Penny(Augeri1)? Yeah, the one who went head to head with me during TG, and got her fat ass rolled? Yeah, the one who looks like she can eat an entire Walmart Lunchroom? Yeah, that one. Well, in the case in TG, perhaps she just doesn't play with a full deck.

Read this gem from BT.....Warning, put down any drink you may have and remove all sharp objects within reach



Held back? Did he not co-write the majority of this album? If he was held back it would be his own fault. Such songs as Butterfly made up the best part of the entire album..actually only a couple good tracks is right..and both were written by the one man who some of you seem extremely eager to see go away. What will you focus your lives on once the band finally addresses this issue..let me guess, the music?


Maybe God isn't perfect. He definitely fucked up when he created this ball of shit.

Generations is complete shit. Neal, though he won't admit it, was probably embarrassed. Hell, he wasn't there for ANY of the sessions. Minus Perry, sorry Friga, he's basically lyrically talentless. Soto WILL provide the much needed spark...I hope. Augeri is like Tickner in Journey lore....irrelevant. Just a fact.

[WalrusOct9]

I have to agree, Butterfly is a pretty lame song.

[wildone]

I have to agree, Butterfly is a pretty lame song.

GReat thread in the famous words of "mr.Slave " on South park....."geezus christ"

[Granny]

I'm making my judgement on Generations (which I have posted before):

Songs I like off Generations in no order:

Faith in the Heartland
A Better Life
Every Generation (though it doesn't sound all that good live)
Knowing that You Love Me (IMO the best Augeri-era ballad)
Gone Crazy (I loved the idea that they tried something different and the loved the Dean's sound)
Beyond the Clouds

To a lesser extent
The Place In Your Heart
Out of Harms Way
In Self Defense (Why re-record an old song, especially a Perry co-write?)
Better Together

Just Pure Crap:
Believe
Butterfly
Pride Of The Family (Have only heard it once or twice, didn't do much for me)

Am I saying Augeri is a bad writer? No as I did like Live and Breathe, To Be Alive Again, All The Way, and We Will Meet Again from Arrival.

My biggest complaint with Augeri was he had no stage presence when I saw him, totally sucked the last time I saw the band live because his voice was totally dead (6-30-06), and the singing behind backing tapes really ruined his reputation in my eyes and if he were to come back to Journey as vocalist, they're losing me as a fan.

Jester92..I was at that show..wasn't it awful...what a piece of crap...except for Deen singing Mother-Father...he was awesome..Poor SA...no voice at all...I do like a few songs from Generations too...SA even sounded decent on them but theWiggle Heads have to stop saying he is the 'MAN" OMG, you are right no stage presence whatsoever...We need JSS if we can't have Perry, which is never going to happen ever again..

[donnaplease]

Jester92..I was at that show..wasn't it awful...what a piece of crap...except for Deen singing Mother-Father...he was awesome..Poor SA...no voice at all...I do like a few songs from Generations too...SA even sounded decent on them but theWiggle Heads have to stop saying he is the 'MAN" OMG, you are right no stage presence whatsoever...We need JSS if we can't have Perry, which is never going to happen ever again..

I guess it depends on what you mean by stage presence... When I saw Journey with SA (several years ago - definitely pre-TG) he did a fairly decent job. But what I recall thinking was, "Gosh, he REALLY IS like Steve Perry". In some of the clips I've seen he interacted with the fans down front pretty well. I didn't know anything about the 'wiggle' at that time, and to be honest, even the phrase "Augeri wiggle" sounds gay. To be fair, the "Stevie shuffle" isn't much better...

Now, if you mean by stage presence someone who makes your thighs quiver...then Soto's your guy. And I won't even begin to mention what Steve Perry does...

Oh, there I go being shameless again...and a married woman at that!!!

[Granny]

Jester92..I was at that show..wasn't it awful...what a piece of crap...except for Deen singing Mother-Father...he was awesome..Poor SA...no voice at all...I do like a few songs from Generations too...SA even sounded decent on them but theWiggle Heads have to stop saying he is the 'MAN" OMG, you are right no stage presence whatsoever...We need JSS if we can't have Perry, which is never going to happen ever again..

I guess it depends on what you mean by stage presence... When I saw Journey with SA (several years ago - definitely pre-TG) he did a fairly decent job. But what I recall thinking was, "Gosh, he REALLY IS like Steve Perry". In some of the clips I've seen he interacted with the fans down front pretty well. I didn't know anything about the 'wiggle' at that time, and to be honest, even the phrase "Augeri wiggle" sounds gay. To be fair, the "Stevie shuffle" isn't much better...

Now, if you mean by stage presence someone who makes your thighs quiver...then Soto's your guy. And I won't even begin to mention what Steve Perry does...

Oh, there I go being shameless again...and a married woman at that!!!

Donna, what a shameless woman u are....my,my,my,my, in all fairness, when i saw SA in Nov, 2005 in Nyrtle Beach he did perform really well and interacted with the audience, even sang well and i enjoyed the show...however after coming here and finding out about TG, well I feel I was cheated considering i flew Cindy and Jennifer down to SC and bought 4* tix for the three of us, didn't offer 5* that night.. Yeah, and SP does it for me too, there is just something about him...loved the Stevie shuffle too...Now to our JSS, talk about stage presence...he has it all.....

[RPM]

you know what TheJourneyLuvah all your doing is creating more bad blood between
the two boards, whats your point ? And Deano I hope you dont get one of your "vacations"
just for starting this thread. Hasnt Andrew said this is the kind of crap he DONT need?
I know you didnt start it but maybe better to just let Andrew delete his/her Ass outa here.

[jestor92]

Jester92..I was at that show..wasn't it awful...what a piece of crap...except for Deen singing Mother-Father...he was awesome..Poor SA...no voice at all...I do like a few songs from Generations too...SA even sounded decent on them but theWiggle Heads have to stop saying he is the 'MAN" OMG, you are right no stage presence whatsoever...We need JSS if we can't have Perry, which is never going to happen ever again..

I guess it depends on what you mean by stage presence... When I saw Journey with SA (several years ago - definitely pre-TG) he did a fairly decent job. But what I recall thinking was, "Gosh, he REALLY IS like Steve Perry". In some of the clips I've seen he interacted with the fans down front pretty well. I didn't know anything about the 'wiggle' at that time, and to be honest, even the phrase "Augeri wiggle" sounds gay. To be fair, the "Stevie shuffle" isn't much better...

Now, if you mean by stage presence someone who makes your thighs quiver...then Soto's your guy. And I won't even begin to mention what Steve Perry does...

Oh, there I go being shameless again...and a married woman at that!!!

Donna, what a shameless woman u are....my,my,my,my, in all fairness, when i saw SA in Nov, 2005 in Nyrtle Beach he did perform really well and interacted with the audience, even sang well and i enjoyed the show...however after coming here and finding out about TG, well I feel I was cheated considering i flew Cindy and Jennifer down to SC and bought 4* tix for the three of us, didn't offer 5* that night.. Yeah, and SP does it for me too, there is just something about him...loved the Stevie shuffle too...Now to our JSS, talk about stage presence...he has it all.....

The times I've saw Journey Augeri has pretty much stood in the middle of the stage and sang his parts and moved like Drew Bledsoe does on the football field-with nails in his feet for little movement. I saw JSS with Soul SirkUS at the Crock Rock in Allentown on a small stage and the man own that stage. I guess I'm saying when I saw Augeri he didn't have much if any charisma

[Daza]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

[Monker]

Mandi,

You are wrong.

You want everyone to hold hands and suck on each others' genitals? The topic is legitimate, hence it was on a PUBLIC message Board. I was trying to show how incredibly retarded these people are. To say Butterfly was a well written song and Believe as well, needs to be addressed. It is not a matter of objectivity...Butterfly and Believe should NEVER have the Journey name next to it. Neal fucked up allowing this to happen.

What is incredibly retarded is saying somebody is incredibly retarded for LIKING A SONG. "Butterfly" is just as 'well written' as anything prior to Jonathan joining the band.

The songs that should NEVER have had the Journey name on it are: "Every Generation" - a Jonathan solo song. "Self Defense" - a Schon/Hammer song, and "Gone Crazy" - some kinda cross between Van Halan, ZZ Top and Damn Yankees.

[styxman]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

Unbelievable... 6 posts and you're getting brave. What a dick

[Daza]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

Unbelievable... 6 posts and you're getting brave. What a dick

I believe I mentioned 'Sycophants' in another thread. Welcome

[styxman]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

Unbelievable... 6 posts and you're getting brave. What a dick

I believe I mentioned 'Sycophants' in another thread. Welcome

So you're callin' me a self-seeking parasite...what a brave little fucker you are Oh and by the way don't welcome me lurker

[Daza]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

Unbelievable... 6 posts and you're getting brave. What a dick

I believe I mentioned 'Sycophants' in another thread. Welcome

So you're callin' me a self-seeking parasite...what a brave little fucker you are Oh and by the way don't welcome me lurker

I believe I mentioned ass kissers in another thread. HELLO. (THE lURKER)

[styxman]

No Mandi,
Don't go away.

Andrew will see through all the Bullshit. That other site comes here on weekends knowing full well Andrew is not here.

I don't give a shit if there is some crap hitting the fan. Hell, Andrew scolds me weekly. I am used to it. He should be pissed but he should also give one of us a moderator key so we can keep the place orderly on the weekends. Journeytroll is here and killing Andrew. Andrew cannot, and I repeat, kill that cockroach off.

I lurk here a lot without posting. Agreed, some backtalkers have come here this weekend knowing Andrew is not here. Same reason you posted the ''I saw Monker thread', knowing Andrew is not here. What a piece of shit thread from a fat (i HAVE SEEN YOUR PHOTOS) piece of shit.

Unbelievable... 6 posts and you're getting brave. What a dick

I believe I mentioned 'Sycophants' in another thread. Welcome

So you're callin' me a self-seeking parasite...what a brave little fucker you are Oh and by the way don't welcome me lurker

I believe I mentioned ass kissers in another thread. HELLO. (THE lURKER)

Now you talkin' my language, I just love kissin' ass, especially with salsa spread all over Hello is better than welcome, I'm warming to ya hollow head

[Just Mindy]

Now you talkin' my language, I just love kissin' ass, especially with salsa spread all over Hello is better than welcome, I'm warming to ya hollow head

You better not be sharing that salsa with anyone else, man