Why Back Talk's better...

[Ratgirl]

I've seen him three times and I wasn't impressed.

Sorry to hear that. What started off as 1 show turned into 4 shows for us. I was impressed and then some with JSS. He brings so much energy, charisma, and soul to the stage.
As what Lula said.. to each his own. I'll be definitely be seeing JSS again with or without Journey.

[momto2]

I've seen him three times and I wasn't impressed.

My first instinct was to say, "you must be blind, deaf or dumb then", but that would be shameless. Augeri put on a good show (when I saw him several years ago), JSS puts on a great show, and Steve Perry is the ultimate!!!

I think it all comes down to this...more often than not, what we seek, we will find. Unfortunately our preconceived notions sometimes clouds the truth.

I'm not attacking you, it's just been a long weekend...

Well I'm not an SA fan and I've only posted on BT a couple of times, I was a huge SP fan in the '80's but my musical tastes changed and I stopped following Journey years ago. I was open-minded the first time I saw JSS, he just doesn't do it for me, there was nothing pre-conceived about it.

[ArnelRox]

I was open-minded the first time I saw JSS, he just doesn't do it for me, there was nothing pre-conceived about it.

When did u see him? When he first took over, he had almost no rehearsals w/the band & he had been working nonstop on albums & performing for 5 months. To be honest, it was amazing to me that he even remembered all the lyrics & was able to get thru a show. That is, to me, a true professional. I doubt many vocalists would even attempt what he did. After he'd essentially rehearsed "live" for a while, he pulled stuff out that brought tears to my eyes. I can't believe anyone who saw him recently would say he couldn't hit the notes. I am a total Perry loon & would be the 1st to criticize if it was warranted. But when I saw Jeff on 11/7, I was totally blown away. He hit & held every single note Perry did. He did the angelic bit on WITS during Neal's solo. He totally rocked. All I can say is if u saw him early on, check it out again when u get an opportunity. Like anyone, he just had to get used to performing w/the band & singing those songs & feel his way around it. Most people going into that job (like Augeri) would have months of rehearsal. Jeff just jumped in & even jumping in like that, he did a fabulous job. I think we've got a lot to look forward to with Jeff & I wanna be a part of it.

[Lula]

Well said JRox, honest and unbiased .

[pdsidd]

I was open-minded the first time I saw JSS, he just doesn't do it for me, there was nothing pre-conceived about it.

When did u see him? When he first took over, he had almost no rehearsals w/the band & he had been working nonstop on albums & performing for 5 months. To be honest, it was amazing to me that he even remembered all the lyrics & was able to get thru a show. That is, to me, a true professional. I doubt many vocalists would even attempt what he did. After he'd essentially rehearsed "live" for a while, he pulled stuff out that brought tears to my eyes. I can't believe anyone who saw him recently would say he couldn't hit the notes. I am a total Perry loon & would be the 1st to criticize if it was warranted. But when I saw Jeff on 11/7, I was totally blown away. He hit & held every single note Perry did. He did the angelic bit on WITS during Neal's solo. He totally rocked. All I can say is if u saw him early on, check it out again when u get an opportunity. Like anyone, he just had to get used to performing w/the band & singing those songs & feel his way around it. Most people going into that job (like Augeri) would have months of rehearsal. Jeff just jumped in & even jumping in like that, he did a fabulous job. I think we've got a lot to look forward to with Jeff & I wanna be a part of it.

I think it's great that JSS went in and took the job on too at short notice. I think he's got a great rock voice but not necessarily the right voice for Journey. Another way to look at it is that he might be the evolution of JRNY and Journey becomes something else that's a bit more rock and a bit less finesse - which will appeal to some and put others off. That's the nature of change - for some it's good and others not good.

[momto2]

I was open-minded the first time I saw JSS, he just doesn't do it for me, there was nothing pre-conceived about it.

When did u see him? When he first took over, he had almost no rehearsals w/the band & he had been working nonstop on albums & performing for 5 months. To be honest, it was amazing to me that he even remembered all the lyrics & was able to get thru a show. That is, to me, a true professional. I doubt many vocalists would even attempt what he did. After he'd essentially rehearsed "live" for a while, he pulled stuff out that brought tears to my eyes. I can't believe anyone who saw him recently would say he couldn't hit the notes. I am a total Perry loon & would be the 1st to criticize if it was warranted. But when I saw Jeff on 11/7, I was totally blown away. He hit & held every single note Perry did. He did the angelic bit on WITS during Neal's solo. He totally rocked. All I can say is if u saw him early on, check it out again when u get an opportunity. Like anyone, he just had to get used to performing w/the band & singing those songs & feel his way around it. Most people going into that job (like Augeri) would have months of rehearsal. Jeff just jumped in & even jumping in like that, he did a fabulous job. I think we've got a lot to look forward to with Jeff & I wanna be a part of it.

The first time was at the end of July, the second and third were mid-September.

[ArnelRox]

I think it's great that JSS went in and took the job on too at short notice. I think he's got a great rock voice but not necessarily the right voice for Journey.

I brought my husband to the show on 11/7. He's not a Journey fan but he's been indoctrinated w/Perry for years. I play Perry all day long, every day. Thanks to some of the ladies here, I have several videos of Perry now. As my husband has walked around the house, he has stopped & watched bits of them. Perry is all over this house all the time. In fact, my husband put a sign on his office door the other day that says "Caution: U are now entering a Steve Perry Free Zone". I'm just telling u this to demonstrate how much of a loon I am.

Now my point: My husband saw Journey w/Augeri at least a couple of times, he also saw Journey w/Jeff. He prefers Augeri's style of singing much to my chagrin. (There's no accounting for bad taste is there ) However, he appreciated Jeff's incredible voice. And even he said, Jeff is more like Perry, both in strength of voice, the vocal mixing, & the way he behaves on stage, than Augeri ever was. How anyone can say Jeff is not the right voice for Journey is totally beyond me.

[Lula]

I think it's great that JSS went in and took the job on too at short notice. I think he's got a great rock voice but not necessarily the right voice for Journey. Another way to look at it is that he might be the evolution of JRNY and Journey becomes something else that's a bit more rock and a bit less finesse - which will appeal to some and put others off. That's the nature of change - for some it's good and others not good.

This is one of those things I don't think I'll ever understand. More rock? Less finesse? Does that mean if you rock you lack finesse? I suppose it does not matter whether I understand or not. What I do get is JSS is the lead singer of Journey and that brings a huge smile to my face.

[Enigma869]

The first time was at the end of July, the second and third were mid-September.

It would seem to me that you can't dislike his voice for Journey all that much, if you've seen the guy 3 times in 3 months, on the same tour! Some of us even call that a "groupie"!

John from Boston

[pdsidd]

I think it's great that JSS went in and took the job on too at short notice. I think he's got a great rock voice but not necessarily the right voice for Journey.

I brought my husband to the show on 11/7. He's not a Journey fan but he's been indoctrinated w/Perry for years. I play Perry all day long, every day. Thanks to some of the ladies here, I have several videos of Perry now. As my husband has walked around the house, he has stopped & watched bits of them. Perry is all over this house all the time. In fact, my husband put a sign on his office door the other day that says "Caution: U are now entering a Steve Perry Free Zone". I'm just telling u this to demonstrate how much of a loon I am.

Now my point: My husband saw Journey w/Augeri at least a couple of times, he also saw Journey w/Jeff. He prefers Augeri's style of singing much to my chagrin. (There's no accounting for bad taste is there ) However, he appreciated Jeff's incredible voice. And even he said, Jeff is more like Perry, both in strength of voice, the vocal mixing, & the way he behaves on stage, than Augeri ever was. How anyone can say Jeff is not the right voice for Journey is totally beyond me.

In my opinion JSS is not similiar to Perry in terms of vocal strength and range. He's more of a performer and uses the stage more than Augeri which makes him sort of similiar to Perry, but again it's my view he's not similiar to Perry vocals wise. Perry's voice was simply untouchable in the early 80s and is the Journey benchmark I think. Augeri was about 80/90% Perry, JSS is something less and that's my point...

[Lula]

In my opinion JSS is not similiar to Perry in terms of vocal strength and range. He's more of a performer and uses the stage more than Augeri which makes him sort of similiar to Perry, but again it's my view he's not similiar to Perry vocals wise. Perry's voice was simply untouchable in the early 80s and is the Journey benchmark I think. Augeri was about 80/90% Perry, JSS is something less and that's my point...

No way!!

I enjoyed much of Augeri, but never in a million years would I say he was near Perry- not even on his best day and Perry's worst.... never!!

[pdsidd]

I think it's great that JSS went in and took the job on too at short notice. I think he's got a great rock voice but not necessarily the right voice for Journey. Another way to look at it is that he might be the evolution of JRNY and Journey becomes something else that's a bit more rock and a bit less finesse - which will appeal to some and put others off. That's the nature of change - for some it's good and others not good.

This is one of those things I don't think I'll ever understand. More rock? Less finesse? Does that mean if you rock you lack finesse? I suppose it does not matter whether I understand or not. What I do get is JSS is the lead singer of Journey and that brings a huge smile to my face.

By finesse I mean finesse - subtlety in action, performance, skill, discrimination, taste etc. By rock I mean there's less subtley it's a hard thing to demonstrate but if I could put forward an analogy - the Ramones were more Rock, Journey are more finesse. That help? And am not saying you can't rock without finesse - Steve Perry did and Augeri did too.

Like you say though, if JSS is the future in JRNY then it's not worth getting bothered about is it.

[pdsidd]

In my opinion JSS is not similiar to Perry in terms of vocal strength and range. He's more of a performer and uses the stage more than Augeri which makes him sort of similiar to Perry, but again it's my view he's not similiar to Perry vocals wise. Perry's voice was simply untouchable in the early 80s and is the Journey benchmark I think. Augeri was about 80/90% Perry, JSS is something less and that's my point...

No way!!

I enjoyed much of Augeri, but never in a million years would I say he was near Perry- not even on his best day and Perry's worst.... never!!

That's fair enough and you're entitled to your view. I've heard and read Steve A described as a soundalike and friends who didn't know Augeri had replaced Perry when I played Arrival to them didn't say "oh he sucks and sounds nothing like Perry" but hey, what do I know.

[Andrew]

Class.

I have asked for such discussion to stop and such a post is blatantly baiting for an argument.

2 other things - you are using a username similar to what someone else used to and mis-representing your identity and that avatar is way over size.

I will deal with these issues myself.

[Andrew]

BT back the band, MR - anything goes...

LOL