Steve Augeri : The Arrival Interview Revisited

[Tom Jrnyfn]

Yeah, you're right! I'm gonna go start a "Why Aynsley Dunbar never should have left Journey" thread here, then I'm gonna go over to "another site" and start 74 "Steve Smith Shuffle" threads. Right after that I'm gonna go over to the Annex and start a "Positive energy only for Gregg Rollie" thread.............
I hope everyone will support these threads by posting only wonderful memorials of each of these great men!

NJT..You forgot about the George Tickner era

[Natalie]

Yeah, you're right! I'm gonna go start a "Why Aynsley Dunbar never should have left Journey" thread here, then I'm gonna go over to "another site" and start 74 "Steve Smith Shuffle" threads. Right after that I'm gonna go over to the Annex and start a "Positive energy only for Gregg Rollie" thread.............
I hope everyone will support these threads by posting only wonderful memorials of each of these great men!

NJT..You forgot about the George Tickner era

Oh damn, you're right. Well I guess I'll have to start a postive energy only for GT thread on all of the boards then!

[Liam]

Yeah, you're right! I'm gonna go start a "Why Aynsley Dunbar never should have left Journey" thread here, then I'm gonna go over to "another site" and start 74 "Steve Smith Shuffle" threads. Right after that I'm gonna go over to the Annex and start a "Positive energy only for Gregg Rollie" thread.............
I hope everyone will support these threads by posting only wonderful memorials of each of these great men!

NJT..You forgot about the George Tickner era

Nice touch.

[whocares]

ah, the old "you don't understand the intent of this thread" trick. Yeah, it works about as much as trying to get the Hindenburg to fly again. It's painfully and obviously clear to US what the intent is, it's to stir the pot. You may LIE and say otherwise, but we know and you've been called on it by everyone before me. Why post a 5 year old interview? Especially in a form where you can't tell who's really saying what? Did you flunk Journalism 101?

Pot stirrer pretty much sums up the intent of this useless thread.

[Enigma869]

Just one of the many great people that post there.

You're a humble dude, eh Rich?


John from Boston

[whocares]

Just one of the many great people that post there.

You're a humble dude, eh Rich?


John from Boston

there's a reason people with the name of Richard are sometimes nicknamed "DICK".

[Wheels Of Fyre]

EJ, why don't you print the inteview out, put it in a scrapbook with all your SA pics and go enjoy it by yourself. Most people here have moved on and people like you just keep bringing it up and wasting our time!!!!!!!!!

Geez - I've been scrolling through this and the sheer anger in your responses is scaring me.

You've made your point, too. Get over yourself. If this thread is "wasting your time" then the only one to blame is YOU. You're free to go read stuff that isn't so wasteful in your eyes.

[Enigma869]

Rich...

The fact that you even started this thread proves what I've said about you for years...You're an antagonistic ass, period! You go out of your way to stir the pot, just for the sake of stirring it! The spineless mods on BT may never call you out, but, I can assure you that you'll be called on on this website, EVERY TIME you come onto this website trying to start trouble!

I've never really been someone who is critical of Steve Augeri. That said, it's people like you and all the other wiggle wack jobs, who insist upon forcing this dude, red leather pants and all, down everyone's throat that REALLY turn people off to the entire Augeri era with Journey!

You always ask that people be respectful of the "hallowed ground" you call BT. We ask that you don't come into our house and stir the pot, just to get a reaction out of people. Leave your "Stevie Awesome" threads on BT, where they belong! In case you haven't noticed, people on this site have ZERO desire to read all of this "we love stevie awesome" bullshit! Even the people on this site who don't have much of an issue with Augeri are smart enough not to spew this nonsense over here.

In parting, you're probably one of the few people, at this point, who actually believe Augeri and Journey didn't resort to the use of tapes. You're free to believe what you want, as is everyone else. At the end of the day, it won't change what happened and it won't change the fact that Journey shouldn't be out there duping their fans who are paying for live music, and not a CD!


John from Boston

[fred_journeyman]

Geez - I've been scrolling through this and the sheer anger in your responses is scaring me.

I noticed that too. Funny, isn't it?

[perryfaithful]

Steve Augeri did NOT "lead Journey for the last 8 years." Journey dragged him along, propped him up on stage

Never thought of him as a "leader" either, even before the lipsync shananigans.

[Mandi]

There are a few new people here who may not have seen the original interview or even knew it existed.

It doesn't appear to me to have been posted with any malice or intent to start trouble. The title of the thread is pretty clear. Anyone who doesn't want to read it, doesn't have to do so, or even post a reply to it.

It seems the poster is a rather unpopular figure here, I don't know him but it doesn't seem he wants to cause trouble. Isn't this forum open to all who wish to post about Journey? The interview falls under that catagory, even though the subject matter is something most people here want to forget.

I say read it if you want to, and if you don't like it there, just skip over it. Why start a war over a simple interview that Andrew himself did? If the interview was with Deen or Neal, would everyone still be so upset? Like it or not, Steve Augeri has/had a part in the history of Journey. Not everyone has to like it, but at least accept that as a fact.

Mandi

[ohsherrie]

Geez - I've been scrolling through this and the sheer anger in your responses is scaring me.

I noticed that too. Funny, isn't it?

I can't speak for NJT Fred but it's Rich's thinly veiled motive and his method that really irked me. He wanted to start a "rah rah for Stevie Awesome" thread here to stir people up and start a fight on this board. He thought he could come out of it looking innocent and righteous to Andrew by using one of his own interviews to do it.

[Red13JoePa]

Augeri was paid a good deal of respect around the time of this interview, 4 years into his tenure.

The revisionist history of some says he was ALWAYS a worthless member of Journey who did NOTHING but hold the band back from May whatever, 1998 when he filled the role.

[EclipticJourney]

Just one of the many great people that post there.

You're a humble dude, eh Rich?


John from Boston

I misstated this. I was trying to say I was one amongst the many great people at BT. Not that I was great. Then again, I think you knew that.

[EclipticJourney]

Rich...

The fact that you even started this thread proves what I've said about you for years...You're an antagonistic ass, period! You go out of your way to stir the pot, just for the sake of stirring it! The spineless mods on BT may never call you out, but, I can assure you that you'll be called on on this website, EVERY TIME you come onto this website trying to start trouble!

I've never really been someone who is critical of Steve Augeri. That said, it's people like you and all the other wiggle wack jobs, who insist upon forcing this dude, red leather pants and all, down everyone's throat that REALLY turn people off to the entire Augeri era with Journey!

You always ask that people be respectful of the "hallowed ground" you call BT. We ask that you don't come into our house and stir the pot, just to get a reaction out of people. Leave your "Stevie Awesome" threads on BT, where they belong! In case you haven't noticed, people on this site have ZERO desire to read all of this "we love stevie awesome" bullshit! Even the people on this site who don't have much of an issue with Augeri are smart enough not to spew this nonsense over here.

In parting, you're probably one of the few people, at this point, who actually believe Augeri and Journey didn't resort to the use of tapes. You're free to believe what you want, as is everyone else. At the end of the day, it won't change what happened and it won't change the fact that Journey shouldn't be out there duping their fans who are paying for live music, and not a CD!


John from Boston

When Andrew posts a disclaimer that says all Journey topics here except Steve Augeri. I'll refrain from posting about him.

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

[fred_journeyman]

When Andrew posts a disclaimer that says all Journey topics here except Steve Augeri. I'll refrain from posting about him.

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

Rich,

I know you didn't direct your comments to me (I've already been accused of responding to people that aren't "talking" to me, as if I'm the only one who does that), but the truth of the matter is this - all Journey-related topics are allowed here. The ones that the vocal minority agrees are fine. It's the others that are fair game for everyone.

By the way, I know you and I have gotten "into it" at BT before because we don't see eye to eye on many things, however I don't see your posts here as being abusive, so the only reason that Andrew or anyone else here might have a problem with them is because you're viewed by some as being a "troll" since your viewpoints do not agree with those of the vocal minority.

It is still funny to me how angry some get here when a viewpoint is posted that either they personally do not like, or it does not fit into the "party line" of this particular forum. Oh well. Life goes on.

[EclipticJourney]

Geez - I've been scrolling through this and the sheer anger in your responses is scaring me.

I noticed that too. Funny, isn't it?

I can't speak for NJT Fred but it's Rich's thinly veiled motive and his method that really irked me. He wanted to start a "rah rah for Stevie Awesome" thread here to stir people up and start a fight on this board. He thought he could come out of it looking innocent and righteous to Andrew by using one of his own interviews to do it.

Let's be honest here. Anything I post here is going to be met with the same vitriol and venom. Glad to see there are at least a few that are taking this thread for what it truly is. Simply that no matter what your position is on who should and will be Journey's lead vocalist and no matter when you believe there might have been something going on when it was a tape and not Live vocals, that Steve Augeri is a decent man and did bring something positive to this band.

There was no way his presence was going to make anyone forget Steve Perry or get the band a place on the Charts again, no matter how he approached it. He knew this, but still had the guts to take on the job. Why? Because he respected the music, the band and the legacy of Steve Perry within the band.

[fred_journeyman]

...Anything I post here is going to be met with the same vitriol and venom....

Be careful of the "big" words, Rich. You'll be accused of being arrogant and having a degree...

[EclipticJourney]

When Andrew posts a disclaimer that says all Journey topics here except Steve Augeri. I'll refrain from posting about him.

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

Rich,

I know you didn't direct your comments to me (I've already been accused of responding to people that aren't "talking" to me, as if I'm the only one who does that), but the truth of the matter is this - all Journey-related topics are allowed here. The ones that the vocal minority agrees are fine. It's the others that are fair game for everyone.

By the way, I know you and I have gotten "into it" at BT before because we don't see eye to eye on many things, however I don't see your posts here as being abusive, so the only reason that Andrew or anyone else here might have a problem with them is because you're viewed by some as being a "troll" since your viewpoints do not agree with those of the vocal minority.

It is still funny to me how angry some get here when a viewpoint is posted that either they personally do not like, or it does not fit into the "party line" of this particular forum. Oh well. Life goes on.

Fred, I know we've disagreed on many points in the past and agreed on some also, but I've always respected your viewpoint. I believe you've respected mine also. I appreciate that you can see that my post here is not an attack on or a way to stir the pot within this Community.

[EclipticJourney]

...Anything I post here is going to be met with the same vitriol and venom....

Be careful of the "big" words, Rich. You'll be accused of being arrogant and having a degree...

I know many people here and at BT get upset with some of the words I use and my presentation, but none of it is meant to offend anyone. It's simply me being me. I can't change that.

[whocares]

this is becoming the "Vicim" thread.

Plain and simple, the reason this was posted on the weekend, is because Rich knows Andrew isn't here on the weekends. He can "get away" with it then. Nice job. Oh and nice job to you too Fred.

WAH WAH WAH. go cry to your Mommies. You too are making me sick this morning. BLECH!

[FormerJrnyFan]

... Anything I post here is going to be met with the same vitriol and venom....

Now why would that be? Hmmmm

[EclipticJourney]

this is becoming the "Vicim" thread.

Plain and simple, the reason this was posted on the weekend, is because Rich knows Andrew isn't here on the weekends. He can "get away" with it then. Nice job. Oh and nice job to you too Fred.

WAH WAH WAH. go cry to your Mommies. You too are making me sick this morning. BLECH!

I have no agenda and definately don't have a clue when Andrew gets up here and when he doesn't. This is being posted today because it is the first chance I've had to be online during the Holiday week.

When Andrew eventually sees this thread, I would hope he sees it for what it is and that in the end, it's a compliment and testament to his Interviewing abilities. I may disagree with him on the way this Forum is run, but I've always been a fan of his journalistic skills. MR.com is the absolute best site for News on the current Melodic Rock scene and Andrew deserves all of the credit for that.

BTW, the word is 'victim'.

[Enigma869]

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

I'm glad you asked...It's you personally! I'm not sure I could make my feelings about you any more clear than I did on BT for many years! I've told you where to go and how to get there. I know you seem to get some sort of a rush out of stirring the pot and then go out of your way to accuse many others of doing that same thing. Also, you know better than anyone else that the three people who seemingly agreed with your thread are three BT regulars, so I'm not sure why this is any great surprise!

For the record, Fred is dead wrong (in spite of his college degree comments) that your thread was met with resistance because others "didn't agree" with what you posted. With all of Fred's intellect, he should have been astute enough to understand that there wasn't really much to not "agree" with. You simply posted an interview with Augeri talking to Drew. The reality is that most people know you and your act, so that's why it was meant with some resistance. Also, for what it's worth, I have no desire to read interviews with Neal, Jon, or any other member of Journey from 5 years ago...5 years was a lifetime ago and really has NOTHING at all to do with what is going on in Journey today. Go post that interview in "Precious Time", Rich. You know...the forum devoted to past members of Journey, where it belongs!


John from Boston

[EclipticJourney]

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

I'm glad you asked...It's you personally! I'm not sure I could make my feelings about you any more clear than I did on BT for many years! I've told you where to go and how to get there. I know you seem to get some sort of a rush out of stirring the pot and then go out of your way to accuse many others of doing that same thing. Also, you know better than anyone else that the three people who seemingly agreed with your thread are three BT regulars, so I'm not sure why this is any great surprise!

For the record, Fred is dead wrong (in spite of his college degree comments) that your thread was met with resistance because others "didn't agree" with what you posted. With all of Fred's intellect, he should have been astute enough to understand that there wasn't really much to not "agree" with. You simply posted an interview with Augeri talking to Drew. The reality is that most people know you and your act, so that's why it was meant with some resistance. Also, for what it's worth, I have no desire to read interviews with Neal, Jon, or any other member of Journey from 5 years ago...5 years was a lifetime ago and really has NOTHING at all to do with what is going on in Journey today. Go post that interview in "Precious Time", Rich. You know...the forum devoted to past members of Journey, where it belongs!


John from Boston

You're absolutely right John. I'm evil incarnate and should be burned at the stake. LOL

[Deb]

Ya know Rich I am not a vengefull person, but I do believe in karma and what goes around comes around. So Rich, you really need to quit living/bringing up the past and enjoy what Journey is bringing today. Does that sound a little familiar, GOOD, it should...........I don't know how many times I saw that sentiment posted by you and a few others on BT to any of us that brought up Perry's name on that board.

[Saint John]

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

I'm glad you asked...It's you personally! I'm not sure I could make my feelings about you any more clear than I did on BT for many years! I've told you where to go and how to get there. I know you seem to get some sort of a rush out of stirring the pot and then go out of your way to accuse many others of doing that same thing. Also, you know better than anyone else that the three people who seemingly agreed with your thread are three BT regulars, so I'm not sure why this is any great surprise!

For the record, Fred is dead wrong (in spite of his college degree comments) that your thread was met with resistance because others "didn't agree" with what you posted. With all of Fred's intellect, he should have been astute enough to understand that there wasn't really much to not "agree" with. You simply posted an interview with Augeri talking to Drew. The reality is that most people know you and your act, so that's why it was meant with some resistance. Also, for what it's worth, I have no desire to read interviews with Neal, Jon, or any other member of Journey from 5 years ago...5 years was a lifetime ago and really has NOTHING at all to do with what is going on in Journey today. Go post that interview in "Precious Time", Rich. You know...the forum devoted to past members of Journey, where it belongs!


John from Boston

Rich knew exactly what he was starting. Same old passive/aggressive bullshit. He knows Augeri is a lightning rod here, yet posts 5 year old interviews during Journey's transition period with their new lead singer. He's like the guy that goes to an NAACP meeting with a David Duke T-shirt on and wonders why everyone there hates him. You're a transparent asshole...that's why. Exercise some common sense and quit hiding behind the "well it DOES relate to Journey" card. It's getting old. As for Fred, at least I respect him. And believe me, we've gone at it MANY times. While I view him as a pain in the ass at times, he at least exhibits balls and stands up for himself. Rich plays the "victim" as someone alluded to earlier.

[Clasicrockldy]

Rich,

I don't doubt for one minute that the whole intent of this thread was to stir the pot over here, because the pot has been stirred quite a bit by me over there for the lack of respect Augeri has for his fans over there. I have seen posts over there by a few members who have questioned why Augeri hasn't responded to the posts sending him good will vibes, etc. Some wanted to hear a simple thank you for what they have posted. But no, Augeri hasn't done it, and nor will he, from what I am thinking, and that is another reason I have lost respect for Augeri. Augeri claims that the fans mean so much to him, but I don't think so. Augeri dropped the ball in more ways than one in my opinion.

[EclipticJourney]

Ya know Rich I am not a vengefull person, but I do believe in karma and what goes around comes around. So Rich, you really need to quit living/bringing up the past and enjoy what Journey is bringing today. Does that sound a little familiar, GOOD, it should...........I don't know how many times I saw that sentiment posted by you and a few others on BT to any of us that brought up Perry's name on that board.

I am happy with all that Journey has brough to the table for the past 33 years. I never had a problem with Steve Perry, in fact I am and always will be a huge fan. He was at the front of Journey during it's greatest success. I am grateful for all he contributed to the band and still does through his legacy.

You confuse my not believing Steve was Journey as being disrespectful to him. I simply believe he was one great musician amongst many and that the success the band had was from a collective effort. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.

I also am thankful for everything Jeff has brought to the table so far. If he is the man that leads the band into the future, I will continue to support the band as I always have. I've been a huge fan of Jeff's since the early 90's and he's only become better throughout the years. He's a natural to lead Journey and can only bring good things to this band.

Karma is a wonderful thing and I believe in 'what comes around goes around', but in this case, I think you have it a little twisted.

[EclipticJourney]

I truly don't get the animosity here. Is it Steve Augeri that gets your blood boiling, is it Back Talk, is it me personally, or the combination?

I'm glad you asked...It's you personally! I'm not sure I could make my feelings about you any more clear than I did on BT for many years! I've told you where to go and how to get there. I know you seem to get some sort of a rush out of stirring the pot and then go out of your way to accuse many others of doing that same thing. Also, you know better than anyone else that the three people who seemingly agreed with your thread are three BT regulars, so I'm not sure why this is any great surprise!

For the record, Fred is dead wrong (in spite of his college degree comments) that your thread was met with resistance because others "didn't agree" with what you posted. With all of Fred's intellect, he should have been astute enough to understand that there wasn't really much to not "agree" with. You simply posted an interview with Augeri talking to Drew. The reality is that most people know you and your act, so that's why it was meant with some resistance. Also, for what it's worth, I have no desire to read interviews with Neal, Jon, or any other member of Journey from 5 years ago...5 years was a lifetime ago and really has NOTHING at all to do with what is going on in Journey today. Go post that interview in "Precious Time", Rich. You know...the forum devoted to past members of Journey, where it belongs!


John from Boston

Rich knew exactly what he was starting. Same old passive/aggressive bullshit. He knows Augeri is a lightning rod here, yet posts 5 year old interviews during Journey's transition period with their new lead singer. He's like the guy that goes to an NAACP meeting with a David Duke T-shirt on and wonders why everyone there hates him. You're a transparent asshole...that's why. Exercise some common sense and quit hiding behind the "well it DOES relate to Journey" card. It's getting old. As for Fred, at least I respect him. And believe me, we've gone at it MANY times. While I view him as a pain in the ass at times, he at least exhibits balls and stands up for himself. Rich plays the "victim" as someone alluded to earlier.

Not playing the victim at all. Just don't understand the out and out hatred towards Steve Augeri and to myself.