DONT'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER

[yogi]

Our spirited discussion yesterday enticed me to start reading Laura's book on Steve Perry.

After reading 50 pages I find myself to the chapter titled 'On Top Of The World'. As for the first 50 pages all I can say is WOW!!!!!

If you are a Journey fan this is a MUST read. Let me put in print a few quotes from the book:

Page 34- Steve talking about Neal Schon: "The way he played guitar, the sound and heart behind his guitar.... I just had a kinship with it that was deeper than I could explain'.

Here is another quote from Steve that is on page 52- " Sometimes I get mad at it because it takes up so much of my life, but I could never live without it. I'm a very hyper person really. Thats my personality. If I didnt have this band as some kind of release, Id probably go nuts".

So far, this book is AWESOME. It is a Steve Perry book, but its also as much a book about Journey.

I cant wait to until I have a chance to read some more of it.

[larryfromnextdoor]

thats great yogi.. i havent ordered my copy yet,, im trying to figure out a way to get a personal autographed copy from laura... sounds like a fun read!! good thread bro.. stay warm in uvalde!!

[AR]

Last Page: "I never really felt like I was part of this book. Don’t crack the book binding! Don’t fracture the name Perry"

SP

[larryfromnextdoor]

Last Page: "I never really felt like I was part of this book. Don’t crack the book binding! Don’t fracture the name Perry"

SP

me likes some steve perry book..

[*Laura]

Our spirited discussion yesterday enticed me to start reading Laura's book on Steve Perry.

After reading 50 pages I find myself to the chapter titled 'On Top Of The World'. As for the first 50 pages all I can say is WOW!!!!!

If you are a Journey fan this is a MUST read. Let me put in print a few quotes from the book:

Page 34- Steve talking about Neal Schon: "The way he played guitar, the sound and heart behind his guitar.... I just had a kinship with it that was deeper than I could explain'.

Here is another quote from Steve that is on page 52- " Sometimes I get mad at it because it takes up so much of my life, but I could never live without it. I'm a very hyper person really. Thats my personality. If I didnt have this band as some kind of release, Id probably go nuts".

So far, this book is AWESOME. It is a Steve Perry book, but its also as much a book about Journey.

I cant wait to until I have a chance to read some more of it.

All I can say it's thank you,Yogi.
I am truly happy that you took the time to start reading it...You are a real Perry/Journey fan,I have no doubt about that now.

As for the name of your topic...I recalled a moment when I saw an interview with Steven Spielberg and he was wearing an old black t-shirt with a hole in it.But what he was saying was so much more interesting.

Also,I think Steve Perry himself sometimes wore some bad outfits on stage,but when he sang...

Enjoy the rest of the read.

[larryfromnextdoor]

could someone repost how to buy it?

[yogi]

I am up to page 80. Journey has just finished the Frontiers tour, and the MTV videos for the album. It is starting to appear that the Journey brotherhood is starting to crack under the constant strain of touring.I am going to throw a few quotes at you from the book.
" At that point we had worked so hard and I think we were, as a group seeing so much of each other. Thats what happens in bands. In the middle of the Frontiers Tour and definitely at the end of the tour we were pretty stressed and I was burnt."

Here is an interesting quote from Pat Morrow, Journeys road manager: " Consistency is the best thing in this business, There are 33 people that work with me for Journey and we are all obsessed with Journey's success; they want a better performance every night. I 've never seen anyone as self-critical as this band."

I want to change the subject for one minute.

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame recognizes bands for their popularity. If thats the case Journey should be a lock. Another point of admission to The Hall Of Fame is being unique or in some way revolutionizing music.


Steve Perry came up with the idea of HUGE video screens at concerts. Herbie Herbert made it happen. They literally built the screens. After The Frontier tour every major act wanted this.

This revolutionary idea has forever changed the live concert experience.

How could they not be admitted on that idea alone????

An ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC read so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[*Laura]

could someone repost how to buy it?

Wanna help me save a chimp,Larry?

Go to the LuluBooks link in my signature,the rest is easy.

[SF-Dano]

Page 34- Steve talking about Neal Schon: "The way he played guitar, the sound and heart behind his guitar.... I just had a kinship with it that was deeper than I could explain'.

That quote sounds exactly like Perry's statement in BTM regarding Neal. Does the book follow a time line or could this be the actual quote form BTM? If not from BTM, I guess mister Perry has some standard answers to questions that are often asked to him.

[somethingtohide]

I am up to page 80. Journey has just finished the Frontiers tour, and the MTV videos for the album. It is starting to appear that the Journey brotherhood is starting to crack under the constant strain of touring.I am going to throw a few quotes at you from the book.
" At that point we had worked so hard and I think we were, as a group seeing so much of each other. Thats what happens in bands. In the middle of the Frontiers Tour and definitely at the end of the tour we were pretty stressed and I was burnt."

Here is an interesting quote from Pat Morrow, Journeys road manager: " Consistency is the best thing in this business, There are 33 people that work with me for Journey and we are all obsessed with Journey's success; they want a better performance every night. I 've never seen anyone as self-critical as this band."

I want to change the subject for one minute.

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame recognizes bands for their popularity. If thats the case Journey should be a lock. Another point of admission to The Hall Of Fame is being unique or in some way revolutionizing music.


Steve Perry came up with the idea of HUGE video screens at concerts. Herbie Herbert made it happen. They literally built the screens. After The Frontier tour every major act wanted this.

This revolutionary idea has forever changed the live concert experience.

How could they not be admitted on that idea alone????

An ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC read so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the review Yogi.

BTW... I had nachos at Vasquez about 2 weeks ago. They were great.

[Monker]

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame recognizes bands for their popularity. If thats the case Journey should be a lock. Another point of admission to The Hall Of Fame is being unique or in some way revolutionizing music.

It's NOT 'popularity'. It's politics. There's a big difference.

Steve Perry came up with the idea of HUGE video screens at concerts. Herbie Herbert made it happen. They literally built the screens. After The Frontier tour every major act wanted this.

That's just not true. Steve Perry would not do the second Escape tour unless they made it more 'intimate' for large arenas. HERBIE did the big screens. They were also not the FIRST band to use the big screens or the other bits of the 'big stadium show'. Journey was just the first band to put it all together and even MAKE A BUSINESS of it. That's not Steve Perry's doing, it's Herbie's.

If that is wrong...show me the quote and the source.

How could they not be admitted on that idea alone????

Because it would be more 'politicaly correct' to admit a band like U2, who did basicaly the same thing at yet another level for Zoo TV, or whatever it was called.

[yogi]

Monker,

I am going to use some quotes from Laura's book. These quotes are found on pages 68 &69. " The Frontiers Tour would provide new standards for all rock artists to come". " Journey had a custom made stage,a computerized lighting system, and a mind boggling innovation: huge twenty foot video screens and five professional TV cameras that were capturing and displaying on the big screens all the action on the stage."

"This revolutionary idea came around one day when Steve had a talk with the band members and the management about the huge venues they were going to perform" "The idea was brilliantbut the problem was that no one had ever done this before""They didnt even know if the technology existed"" Manager Herbie Herbert decided to look for the possibilities"" he was so determined to make it happen he said that if there was no such thing as a huge screen for a concert venue they will create one!" "It was a huge revolutionary step that would put Journey into the league of pioneers and trend-setters,Later every major rock group from America wanted to use that kind of stage set -up". From that moment Journey changed the live act concept forever".

[Liz22562]

Yogi/Monker....

I thought that I read somewhere that bands rented Journeys lighting, stage effects, etc because they were the first to come up with this concept??? I know I've read this information several times before. I think at one time it was mentioned on one of the threads here over the last couple of years.

Peace always...

[EightyRock]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere, at one time, that the Stones rented their big screens, too.

[junky]

Yogi/Monker....

I thought that I read somewhere that bands rented Journeys lighting, stage effects, etc because they were the first to come up with this concept??? I know I've read this information several times before. I think at one time it was mentioned on one of the threads here over the last couple of years.

Peace always...

Journey was not first to come up with idea of big screens. It was done the year before (Sept. 1982) at the US Festival in Cali.

Bill Graham was a booking agent for the US Festival and probably told Herbie about it.

[NealIsGod]

Yogi/Monker....

I thought that I read somewhere that bands rented Journeys lighting, stage effects, etc because they were the first to come up with this concept??? I know I've read this information several times before. I think at one time it was mentioned on one of the threads here over the last couple of years.

Peace always...

Journey was not first to come up with idea of big screens. It was done the year before (Sept. 1982) at the US Festival in Cali.

Bill Graham was a booking agent for the US Festival and probably told Herbie about it.

Actually, Al Gore invented them.

[junky]

Yogi/Monker....

I thought that I read somewhere that bands rented Journeys lighting, stage effects, etc because they were the first to come up with this concept??? I know I've read this information several times before. I think at one time it was mentioned on one of the threads here over the last couple of years.

Peace always...

Journey was not first to come up with idea of big screens. It was done the year before (Sept. 1982) at the US Festival in Cali.

Bill Graham was a booking agent for the US Festival and probably told Herbie about it.

Actually, Al Gore invented them.

Yes he did, and while he was at the US festival promoting it, he spotted MANBEARPIG for the very first time.

Others who were present said it was just Jerry Garcia rolling around in the mud.

[yogi]

I just finished the book. It is a very good, easy read.

There is quite a bit of Journey & Steve Perry information that I was not aware of. Examples include: Steve getting brained with a wristwatch, then years later talking to the guy that smoked him. Steve recording with America, and jamming with Motley Crue. There is actually tons of stuff that I was unaware of.

The book TRULY puts Steve in a positive light. It also points out the troubles within the band without pointing any fingers. Not a bad word was said about anyone in this book. The bad stuff was all put out there, but in kind of general way. As stated earlier no fingers were pointed in any direction at anyone.

Steve does seem a hell of alot more sensitive than the males that I am used to hanging with. He seems to break down an aweful lot for what seems to me like stuff that isnt break down able. Gets sad and panics when his car engine is on fire. To me he sometimes seems like an artsy wuss.

With all that said, the book is excellent!!

In my mind Steve Perry's voice will always be what Journey was about to 90% of the fans. The current group with JSS aboard should be using the name Soul Sirkus, and playing occassional or as many Journey songs as they wish.

[NealIsGod]

In my mind Steve Perry's voice will always be what Journey was about to 90% of the fans. The current group with JSS aboard should be using the name Soul Sirkus, and playing occassional or as many Journey songs as they wish.

Why? Perry does not own the name Journey and should not hold the band hostage.

[yogi]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the band that is currently calling itself Journey is damn near 100% what Soul Sirkus was suppose to be.

You have got the lead singer, lead guitarist & drummer. Why not try to carve out a niche for yourself?? Play as many Journey songs as you choose, but call yourself Soul Sirkus.

[Monker]

Monker,

I am going to use some quotes from Laura's book. These quotes are found on pages 68 &69. " The Frontiers Tour would provide new standards for all rock artists to come". " Journey had a custom made stage,a computerized lighting system, and a mind boggling innovation: huge twenty foot video screens and five professional TV cameras that were capturing and displaying on the big screens all the action on the stage."

"This revolutionary idea came around one day when Steve had a talk with the band members and the management about the huge venues they were going to perform" "The idea was brilliantbut the problem was that no one had ever done this before""They didnt even know if the technology existed"" Manager Herbie Herbert decided to look for the possibilities"" he was so determined to make it happen he said that if there was no such thing as a huge screen for a concert venue they will create one!" "It was a huge revolutionary step that would put Journey into the league of pioneers and trend-setters,Later every major rock group from America wanted to use that kind of stage set -up". From that moment Journey changed the live act concept forever".

So, show me where it says it was PERRY's idea? It wasn't...and she is WRONG when she says it had not been done before. That is simply the bottom line.

Sure, Journey deserves credit for perfecting the idea...and for touring with it, popularizing it, and making a business out of it. THAT is where the truth is...not in the propaganda that Perry came up with this idea that nobody had ever tried.

[Monker]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the band that is currently calling itself Journey is damn near 100% what Soul Sirkus was suppose to be.

You have got the lead singer, lead guitarist & drummer. Why not try to carve out a niche for yourself?? Play as many Journey songs as you choose, but call yourself Soul Sirkus.

That's a simple question to answer.

If they did that, they wouldn't be opening for Def Leppard and selling 15,000 tickets a night...a huge amount of money. With SS, they would be lucky to get 1/10 of that. If SS was selling as many tickets as Journey, I doubt Journey would exist today.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the band that is currently calling itself Journey is damn near 100% what Soul Sirkus was suppose to be.

You have got the lead singer, lead guitarist & drummer. Why not try to carve out a niche for yourself?? Play as many Journey songs as you choose, but call yourself Soul Sirkus.

That's a simple question to answer.

If they did that, they wouldn't be opening for Def Leppard and selling 15,000 tickets a night...a huge amount of money. With SS, they would be lucky to get 1/10 of that. If SS was selling as many tickets as Journey, I doubt Journey would exist today.

Monker,

If you think you know so much about Journey (and you don't) WHO manufactured the Journey video game, and how many bits was it???

Who manufactured Journey trading cards, and what year???

On the day that Schon and Perry penned patiently, WHERE were they, and who had they had lunch with earlier that very same day????


Ha! you don't know nothing about Journey my friend. Nada!

[yogi]

Laura's book details the Journey Video game and tells the objective of the game.

Her book also details Steve's first live session with the group. How Journey's manager made sure that the lead singer at the time(his name escapes me now) was away on errands all afternoon so Steve could rehearse with the group. She tells in detail and in Steves words how nervous he was at that first rehersal. How the group, especially Neal, who years earlier Steve had met and felt friendly toward were skeptical of him. The book stated that Neal pretty much wanted Journey to remain a fusion type of band where Neal could jam on songs for long periods of time. It really sounded like the entire group other than Journey's manager wanted Steve to fail. But once the group heard that Steve had the chops live they were sold. The book then tells us how Steve and Neal penned the song Patiently.

The book also details Steve's first Journey show. How many of the 6000 plus fans at first hated Journeys new direction, but then by the end of the evening liked it.


Now that 'Journey' is through being a warmup band for Def Leppard they could move on as Soul Sirkus correct??? They have got 90% of Soul Sirkus in place. Make a name for yourself!!

Damn Yankees did it, Bad English did it. They could play it all. Journey, Talisman, Bad English, and Their new Soul Sirkus material.

Why the hell not????
Fascinating read!!!!

[NealIsGod]

Laura's book details the Journey Video game and tells the objective of the game.

Her book also details Steve's first live session with the group. How Journey's manager made sure that the lead singer at the time(his name escapes me now) was away on errands all afternoon so Steve could rehearse with the group. She tells in detail and in Steves words how nervous he was at that first rehersal. How the group, especially Neal, who years earlier Steve had met and felt friendly toward were skeptical of him. The book stated that Neal pretty much wanted Journey to remain a fusion type of band where Neal could jam on songs for long periods of time. It really sounded like the entire group other than Journey's manager wanted Steve to fail. But once the group heard that Steve had the chops live they were sold. The book then tells us how Steve and Neal penned the song Patiently.

The book also details Steve's first Journey show. How many of the 6000 plus fans at first hated Journeys new direction, but then by the end of the evening liked it.

Fascinating read!!!!

Didn't someone say recently that the first time Perry performed with Journey was an during encore?

[yogi]

If that is true it was not in the book, or I somehow missed that.

[*Laura]

Actually,in Oct.1977,Journey had a 3 night stand at Waldorf in San Francisco,and it was only the last night show when SP got on stage with them.
No one understood what was happening,as on the other 2 shows Journey played the usual fusion thing.
The band was testing the waters to see if people would accept SP or not.

[LucyFurr]

Here is another quote from Steve that is on page 52- " Sometimes I get mad at it because it takes up so much of my life, but I could never live without it. I'm a very hyper person really. Thats my personality. If I didnt have this band as some kind of release, Id probably go nuts".

Well, THAT explains his latest interview.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Here is another quote from Steve that is on page 52- " Sometimes I get mad at it because it takes up so much of my life, but I could never live without it. I'm a very hyper person really. Thats my personality. If I didnt have this band as some kind of release, Id probably go nuts".

Well, THAT explains his latest interview.

good call cathrine!!