Changes in SP's speaking voice

[ArnelRox]

Thanks for the compliment Susie.


So I guess this will be me at around 38-40:

Awww I can't decide which version of u is cuter! J/K

Hey, do a sample of ur voice one octave lower too.

[Melissa]

Love you too Susie!

1. A male voice peaks by mid thirties, and then usually gives up an octave. Generally, not all of the time, but most of the time.

That's an interesting point. I wanted to check it out so I recorded a sample of my voice as I sound now at age 23 and then pitched it exactly one octave, which is 12 half steps, higher.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BA4BWFO

It's a very small mp3 (152kb) and won't take long for anyone, even on dial up, to download.

Crap, can't listen here at work, but will check that out later.

[conversationpc]

2. Falsetto. In that clip cited by Nora, there was no "falsetto". There is no such thing really. It is a misnomer. If you can generate a note via "falsetto", then you can generate that note full volume, with proper breathing and resonance training. Your range is your range. But I know what she meant. Steve did not sing with his "head voice" or "falsetto" or whatever you want to call it. He was breathing correctly and belting it, high or low. Steve also knows how to work the mic.

Gotta disagree with this. Granted, I am not a professionally trained singer but I can guarantee you that there is no way I can sing some of the notes in full or head voice that I can hit in falsetto. There is just no way.

[ohsherrie]

Frontiers & Beyond where he gets angry at the guy who throws the bottle at Neal.
The ROR Hard Rock interview.
The Bill Graham Tribute.
Behind The Music.

& I also threw in how he spoke before Mother Father in concert in 1981.

Alright, I will give u a pass on being a totally loony loon for now. But only because ur the long lost sis that I never had

When is ur daughter's baby due? That should be exciting.

Your long lost nephew is due NOW!! She's having pains today but not strong enough to go to the hospital yet. It's exciting and nerve wracking.

I haven't had time to listen to these because I've been on the phone with her off and on for hours. I've heard them all but the pitch of his voice isn't clear enough in my memory to comment on it. Is the Hard Rock the one where he was sloshed? You know, they said the reason for the mustache was to change his image. Maybe he tried to make his speaking voice sound more macho too.

[ArnelRox]

Your long lost nephew is due NOW!! She's having pains today but not strong enough to go to the hospital yet. It's exciting and nerve wracking.

I haven't had time to listen to these because I've been on the phone with her off and on for hours. I've heard them all but the pitch of his voice isn't clear enough in my memory to comment on it. Is the Hard Rock the one where he was sloshed? You know, they said the reason for the mustache was to change his image. Maybe he tried to make his speaking voice sound more macho too.

Tell that baby to hurry on up & come out. I want pix!

Yes the Hard Rock one was when he looked kinda "happy".

I'd believe the tash bit, but his voice was that low before that in all the shows. It was somewhere AFTER that tour that it started getting higher (speaking).

[Jeremey]

While I am not a Dr, I have been to many speech pathologists (aside from being a singer I was also born with a cleft palate, so I haven't always been this outspoken ), and have watched my wife rehabilitate from polyp/cyst surgery...We were told to elevate the speaking voice and take the pressure off of the vocal cords to rehabilitate damage from overuse. My speaking voice is much lower and huskier than it should be, and when I was trained to speak in a higher pitch, to my ears I sounded like a little girl. It takes effort to get used to changing your speaking voice. It wouldn't be unusual that Perry's higher pitched speaking voice is related to taking stress off of his vocal cords...

[bluejeangirl76]

Frontiers & Beyond where he gets angry at the guy who throws the bottle at Neal.
The ROR Hard Rock interview.
The Bill Graham Tribute.
Behind The Music.

& I also threw in how he spoke before Mother Father in concert in 1981.

Ok, three of those are on stage in front of an audince and two are not.
Of course his voice is going to sound different projecting around a concert hall that it is in a closed setting where he's conversing normally.

You need to compare apples with apples ...

Listen to this interview from 1986:

http://www.louisepalanker.com/interviews/journey-steve-perry-jonathan-c-interview.html

Then listen to Off The Record from 2 weeks ago. He sounds deeper now.

[Melissa]

While I am not a Dr, I have been to many speech pathologists (aside from being a singer I was also born with a cleft palate, so I haven't always been this outspoken ), and have watched my wife rehabilitate from polyp/cyst surgery...We were told to elevate the speaking voice and take the pressure off of the vocal cords to rehabilitate damage from overuse. My speaking voice is much lower and huskier than it should be, and when I was trained to speak in a higher pitch, to my ears I sounded like a little girl. It takes effort to get used to changing your speaking voice. It wouldn't be unusual that Perry's higher pitched speaking voice is related to taking stress off of his vocal cords...

Did you have to have surgery for your cleft palate? Sorry to be nosey . I take care of babies with these all the time.

[Jeremey]

Did you have to have surgery for your cleft palate? Sorry to be nosey . I take care of babies with these all the time.

Yes, actually had surgery when I was several months old, and then again when I was 3 or so. I don't remember it at all of course, but I did go to speech therapy until I was at least 8 or 9 years old...

[ArnelRox]

While I am not a Dr, I have been to many speech pathologists (aside from being a singer I was also born with a cleft palate, so I haven't always been this outspoken ), and have watched my wife rehabilitate from polyp/cyst surgery...We were told to elevate the speaking voice and take the pressure off of the vocal cords to rehabilitate damage from overuse. My speaking voice is much lower and huskier than it should be, and when I was trained to speak in a higher pitch, to my ears I sounded like a little girl. It takes effort to get used to changing your speaking voice. It wouldn't be unusual that Perry's higher pitched speaking voice is related to taking stress off of his vocal cords...

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

[ArnelRox]

Ok, three of those are on stage in front of an audince and two are not.
Of course his voice is going to sound different projecting around a concert hall that it is in a closed setting where he's conversing normally.

You need to compare apples with apples ...

Um excuse me but that's why I originally put up 2 that were onstage & 2 that weren't. I WAS trying to compare apples w/apples.

Listen to this interview from 1986:

http://www.louisepalanker.com/interviews/journey-steve-perry-jonathan-c-interview.html

Then listen to Off The Record from 2 weeks ago. He sounds deeper now.

I completely disagree. His voice is nowhere near as deep in pitch now as it was there. Not even close.

[Jeremey]

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

Michael also explained his numerous nose-reduction surgeries were in order to make him "sing higher." Following this logic, Steve Perry could sing the bass part in Sha Na Na.

[ArnelRox]

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

Michael also explained his numerous nose-reduction surgeries were in order to make him "sing higher." Following this logic, Steve Perry could sing the bass part in Sha Na Na.

LMAO. (Ouch it hurts to laugh. I have stitches. Oh but it feels good so screw it.)

[Melissa]

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

Michael also explained his numerous nose-reduction surgeries were in order to make him "sing higher." Following this logic, Steve Perry could sing the bass part in Sha Na Na.

LMAO. (Ouch it hurts to laugh. I have stitches. Oh but it feels good so screw it.)

Being nosey again , where are your stitches?

[ArnelRox]

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

Michael also explained his numerous nose-reduction surgeries were in order to make him "sing higher." Following this logic, Steve Perry could sing the bass part in Sha Na Na.

LMAO. (Ouch it hurts to laugh. I have stitches. Oh but it feels good so screw it.)

Being nosey again , where are your stitches?

I'll answer in PM if that's ok.

[Melissa]

Aha, that makes sense. Can we assume that's why Michael Jackson speaks the way he does?

Michael also explained his numerous nose-reduction surgeries were in order to make him "sing higher." Following this logic, Steve Perry could sing the bass part in Sha Na Na.

LMAO. (Ouch it hurts to laugh. I have stitches. Oh but it feels good so screw it.)

Being nosey again , where are your stitches?

I'll answer in PM if that's ok.

Sure, sorry to be nosey! lol
I've been gutted like a fish twice, I know laughing with them in your belly is NO fun, lol.

[JeremyP]

Awww I can't decide which version of u is cuter! J/K

Hey, do a sample of ur voice one octave lower too.

Thanks! hehe

Here's my voice an octave lower. I sound evil. lol

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5M7777N9

[ohsherrie]

Tell that baby to hurry on up & come out. I want pix!

Yes the Hard Rock one was when he looked kinda "happy".

I'd believe the tash bit, but his voice was that low before that in all the shows. It was somewhere AFTER that tour that it started getting higher (speaking).

He's on his way, but taking it slow. I probably won't go to the hospital until tomorrow when the action really begins. I'll send you the link to the pics when they're posted on the hospital website.

About the voice, I'm going with Jeremey's explanation. Makes sense to me and of all people Jeremey should know.

[ArnelRox]

Awww I can't decide which version of u is cuter! J/K

Hey, do a sample of ur voice one octave lower too.

Thanks! hehe

Here's my voice an octave lower. I sound evil. lol

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5M7777N9

Um that's the Freddie clips u sent in PM. Wrong one babe

[lowdbrent]

2. Falsetto. In that clip cited by Nora, there was no "falsetto". There is no such thing really. It is a misnomer. If you can generate a note via "falsetto", then you can generate that note full volume, with proper breathing and resonance training. Your range is your range. But I know what she meant. Steve did not sing with his "head voice" or "falsetto" or whatever you want to call it. He was breathing correctly and belting it, high or low. Steve also knows how to work the mic.

Gotta disagree with this. Granted, I am not a professionally trained singer but I can guarantee you that there is no way I can sing some of the notes in full or head voice that I can hit in falsetto. There is just no way.

Can you generate the note though? Yes you can. That makes the term and description of Falsetto moot. That is the point.

You CAN sing that high note, but not with the timbre and power of the lower notes. You can learn how to increase your range. One way is to get a coach, learn how to breath, focus sound, and stretch your range. Now, you may not ever develop the power linearly through your range because you didn't start young enough, or aren't built for it. But it can be done on avearge.

It used to be taught that females had no falsetto. That's false too. Mariah C is the inverse of that theory. She can pull off notes that are louder than her normal singing level. I am a male and have no falsette. There the highest note that I can hit is the same no matter how I deliver it.

Until you have had some coaching or can be around some really God-given-gifted people, don't sell yourself short. You may have it in you to do it.

[ArnelRox]

Can you generate the note though? Yes you can. That makes the term and description of Falsetto moot. That is the point.

You CAN sing that high note, but not with the timbre and power of the lower notes. You can learn how to increase your range. One way is to get a coach, learn how to breath, focus sound, and stretch your range. Now, you may not ever develop the power linearly through your range because you didn't start young enough, or aren't built for it. But it can be done on avearge.

It used to be taught that females had no falsetto. That's false too. Mariah C is the inverse of that theory. She can pull off notes that are louder than her normal singing level. I am a male and have no falsette. There the highest note that I can hit is the same no matter how I deliver it.

Until you have had some coaching or can be around some really God-given-gifted people, don't sell yourself short. You may have it in you to do it.

Ok so what did the Bee Gees sing in?

Falsetto IS real. It's the type of voice most people break into who sing along in a car & don't know how to go up in pitch. It's also a style used by many artists & often by back up singers. I think what ur trying to say is that it's not a register. Most people don't consider vocal fry a register either. But it's considered the lowest end of what a voice can produce just as falsetto is considered the highest end.

Mariah Carey doesn't use falsetto, sorry. She has talked about what she does & said she uses a technique known as whistle voice to hit the top of her range & make that sound. She has very flexible vocal cords & is able to completely adduct them to bring about that sound. This IS one technique that uses very very little air. It's a very challenging technique as a person has to not only be able to completely adduct the cords but also to use a very very low amount of air pressure to allow the whistle out w/out forcing the cords apart w/the air.

[JeremyP]

Um that's the Freddie clips u sent in PM. Wrong one babe

Oops!

Forgot to re-copy the link. Here 'tis.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SL918OXM

Might want to send the little ones out of the room. lol (sounds like an evil monster or Satan or something )

[JeremyP]

Ok so what did the Bee Gees sing in?

I freaking love the Bee Gees.

"Nobody gets too much heaven no more, it's much harder to come by, I'm waiting in line".

Amazing stuff. Just had to get that in.

[ArnelRox]

Um that's the Freddie clips u sent in PM. Wrong one babe

Oops!

Forgot to re-copy the link. Here 'tis.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SL918OXM

Might want to send the little ones out of the room. lol (sounds like an evil monster or Satan or something )

No little ones here. Just me & the kitties. Damn. That is scary. So ur gonna lose an octave in about 15 yrs. U might as well try out now for satanic roles in movies. U can be the demon voice in the exorcist babe! Hey at least u will make $$$

BTW, about that Bee Gees song...someone is gonna call u a fag before long dude. Next u will tell me u love Air Supply too? If so, that's it, we're thru (Ya know I love ya, but come on, Too Much Heaven?)

[JeremyP]

LOL

Hey, good music is good music. (Happen to be listening to Metallica at the moment)

[ArnelRox]

LOL

Hey, good music is good music. (Happen to be listening to Metallica at the moment)

Oh good, u are manly again

BTW, u don't wiggle, do u?

[JeremyP]

Oh good, u are manly again

BTW, u don't wiggle, do u?

Not as well as I moonwalk.

[JeremyP]

Ok peoples,

Here's a clip of Steve Perry speaking in various interviews over the years. The segments are spaced out pretty evenly and I think it's pretty obvious based on what he's speaking about as to when one segment ends and another begins.

The segments span from 1978 to 2006.

You'll hear 1978, 1983, 1986, 1997, 2001, and finally, 2006.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U3UEB590

He's speaking calmly on a person to person level, and not onstage. So this should be the best indicator of his normal speaking voice and how it's changed/evolved/matured over the years.

[ArnelRox]

Ok peoples,

Here's a clip of Steve Perry speaking in various interviews over the years. The segments are spaced out pretty evenly and I think it's pretty obvious based on what he's speaking about as to when one segment ends and another begins.

The segments span from 1978 to 2006.

You'll hear 1978, 1983, 1986, 1997, 2001, and finally, 2006.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U3UEB590

He's speaking calmly on a person to person level, and not onstage. So this should be the best indicator of his normal speaking voice and how it's changed/evolved/matured over the years.

Interesting Jeremy. Thanks for doing that. I listened a few times to the 1st & last. Big difference. He has a more whispery effect now as well as higher pitched. I just wonder if it's deliberate or not. I'd love to get a candid chat w/the guy!

[Melissa]

LOL

Hey, good music is good music. (Happen to be listening to Metallica at the moment)

Tell me which Metallica song so I can get the BEE GEES one OUT of my HEAD! lol