SPEEDY RECOVERY!

[Red13JoePa]

No, I meant to say inditement, Jay rox.

Go feed your devil.

[ArnelRox]

No, I meant to say inditement, Jay rox.

Go feed your devil.

Really? Well then u need to take English lessons b/c that doesn't work in ur sentence.

I'm already feeding one devil by writing to u. I can only do one at a time!

[NealIsGod]

[The_Noble_Cause]

While I applaud this and have been BEGGING for years that they do so - it seems to me that if SA were still on board that not being recovered enough to sing the catalog would be a moot point.

Augeri barely sang his own songs well.

[junky]

Regarding #3: Why did it take so long to finish FITH? Are you saying that his voice was shot? Where is this reported? It's not unusual at all for a lot of time to be taken to finish things. Cain labored over the lyrics for Be Good To Yourself for 5 months! Should we report then that he's somehow lyrically challenged and in need of recovery at the Emily Dickinson Center for Poets?

It's not reported anywhere, Fyre.
It's speculation masquerading matter-of-factly as truth. Happens around here from time to time.

I happen to have heard this as well and find it to have merit, but that is because of the REAL source from where it came, not this guy.

Where did you guys hear that it took Augeri a month to record FITH? According to Tom Size (engineer on Generations), it only took two weeks to do the vocals for the whole album.

Here's his quote (yet again):

Well, we worked hard...and fast on this record. It was tracked on analog tape, then transferred to ProTools, where we did all the overdubs. The glitches you hear on "Butterfly" was due to the fact that we loved the Demo vocal so much we used that for the record. It took a little manipulation to get the vocal to fit the new track. All these vocals were done in a two week period, Raised on Radio took six months.
I think there are some great songs on this CD.
On another note, I hope you all buy the VTR CD. It's got some great material on it, and it sounds great.
Cheers,
Tom Size

[fred_journeyman]

He might record an album but if I were Augeri I wouldn't THINK of doing concerts yet.... not until surgery or something that fixes what's busted.

I agree. If his voice does improve to the point of allowing him to sing, why shouldn't he record a CD?

Doing a tour is something else altogether and he'd be wise to stay away from that even if his voice does recover.

Funny, but one of my favorite groups when I was growing up was The Grass Roots. They were great, but to my knowledge, they never toured. They were a group of musicians who recorded tunes that became very popular, but didn't tour to support them. The label released and supported them.

[SteveForever]

He might record an album but if I were Augeri I wouldn't THINK of doing concerts yet.... not until surgery or something that fixes what's busted.

I agree. If his voice does improve to the point of allowing him to sing, why shouldn't he record a CD?

Doing a tour is something else altogether and he'd be wise to stay away from that even if his voice does recover.

Funny, but one of my favorite groups when I was growing up was The Grass Roots. They were great, but to my knowledge, they never toured. They were a group of musicians who recorded tunes that became very popular, but didn't tour to support them. The label released and supported them.

Steve A. is still young, he still has a future in music. Maybe it won't be in Arena Rock, but he is a handsome guy and he has talent. Maybe his voice will get well. Whatever went on...won't matter in the long run in the grand scheme of things. We aren't supposed to forgive people because they deserve it, we do it because it is the right thing to do. imo its time for people to stop judging this person.

[ArnelRox]

Awww Niggy. U had to tell me they watch? Damn. U just ruined my Christmas.

[Rockindeano]

Where did you guys hear that it took Augeri a month to record FITH? According to Tom Size (engineer on Generations), it only took two weeks to do the vocals for the whole album.

It did take forever. A sentence a day. Magnificent solo work coming.

[Rockindeano]

Steve A. is still young, he still has a future in music. Maybe it won't be in Arena Rock, but he is a handsome guy and he has talent. Maybe his voice will get well. Whatever went on...won't matter in the long run in the grand scheme of things. We aren't supposed to forgive people because they deserve it, we do it because it is the right thing to do. imo its time for people to stop judging this person.

That is the most retarded Goddamned thing I have ever read.

[conversationpc]

Steve A. is still young, he still has a future in music.

Still young? He is nearing 48. That's not young for a singer. His best days as a singer passed almost a decade or more ago.

[ArnelRox]

Where did you guys hear that it took Augeri a month to record FITH? According to Tom Size (engineer on Generations), it only took two weeks to do the vocals for the whole album.

It did take forever. A sentence a day. Magnificent solo work coming.

But according to some of these people, Augeri's future is bright Deano. Let's not discount that.

Damn I been waiting 10 yrs for Perry. Do I hear 2016 & the same old story about Augeri? Or u think they'll forget by then? Let's take out some odds they'll get tired of waiting & just LOVE Jeff live? How about it? U & me could make a few $$$$ here.

[ArnelRox]

Steve A. is still young, he still has a future in music. Maybe it won't be in Arena Rock, but he is a handsome guy and he has talent. Maybe his voice will get well. Whatever went on...won't matter in the long run in the grand scheme of things. We aren't supposed to forgive people because they deserve it, we do it because it is the right thing to do. imo its time for people to stop judging this person.

That is the most retarded Goddamned thing I have ever read.

Dude kick back. She's cool. She's just got Christmas spirit & forgiveness is a part of that (think of Scrooge). Trust me. That's what she meant. She's looking forward to the future.

[zino]

Steve Augeri is CURRENTLY recording his debut solo album, IN THE MOMENT, due out the summer of 2007. He’s also putting the finishing touches on the much-anticipated follow-up to the AOR classic TALL STORIES album, launching early next year.

I read this as saying that SA is currently capable of working in the studio. Is he singing? Doesn't say. Is he capable of singing? Doesn't say. Maybe all of the tracks were laid down prior to his condition flaring up. Will he tour next Summer? Who knows. Has he recovered? It appears so but it can't be known for sure.

They way it's spelled out it leads one to believe that he's recovered and ready to fly solo and/or hit the road with Tall Stories in about 7 months.

So if he's recovered then what's the problem?[/b]

Fyre, ur right. U are NOT the sharpest knife. I am, so let me help u w/this

It doesn't say anywhere SA is going to tour. There is NOT one mention of that. It says he is recording an album & finessing TS2.

1. TS2 was recorded a LONG time ago (over a decade).

2. Altho it says that he is recording his debut album, it doesn't say he's actually singing it now. Recording is kind of a generic term. For all we know, these could be tracks he layed down when he was still healthy, before Generations, for example. There were some other songs he had written for Gens that did not make it on the album, for example. Maybe he will use some of those.

3. It took him a very very long time to finish some of the tracks on Gens. For example, FITH took over a couple of months.

4. Have u ever been in a recording studio to record anything? I have, so let me try to give u an analogy. It's kinda like how they shoot a movie in a way. U know how they have the clipboard & do takes & the director watches them to see how they look, then if he/she doesn't like them, they do them over? Well it is a lot like that. As u lay down bits & pieces, if u don't like the way they sound, u go ahead & redo them. Then, they all get mixed together to sound like one smooth track.

5. Let's go back to a boot that we have of one of Augeri's last performances on June 24 2006 in Jones Beach (do u have that one?), u can listen to his singing voice there.

Here's Stone In Love: http://download.yousendit.com/D80E514B7BE9AE61

He was still able to sing a few notes w/in one octave. As Jon Cain explained in his interview, SA has a vocal paralysis. This means that one of his vocal cords which was once flexible is no longer flexible & has trouble expanding & closing. He may have gotten this condition from his years of using a steroid inhaler for his asthma. Anyway, he can still sing some of the notes, but when his vocal cords are supposed to move for different notes w/in that octave or to allow him to reach into another octave, at least one of the cords is not doing so. In a studio situation, where he could practice this over & over, he will probably be able to get to at least some of those notes over time, & those he can't get to can be massaged w/special software.

6. Let's read about the condition Jon Cain, his friend, says he has:
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WS ... 10976.html
"In some cases, the voice returns on its own within a year. If not, the condition is likely to be permanent."
SA has had this condition for more than a yr now. That means it is likely to be permanent. Therefore, he is not, as u speculate "recovered". However, that doesn't mean that he can't do some limited studio work if it's only paralysis on one side of his cords.

Got it now? I tried to keep it simple. If u don't understand any of it, just holler.

Thanks for this, it made tons of sense too me !
Some good info in this post.

[Vladan]

Not recovered enough to sing the Journey catalogue. Period.


TRUST ME...I'm being nice.

Haha, yeah. Well you are right there. I wonder how his new solo efforts will come along, I don't think i'll be interested in anything, I don't get captured by his writing skills, just doesn't do it for in terms of chorus or vibe. I wish him all the best... I just won't be listening, unless! its good ofcourse

[SteveForever]

Steve A. is still young, he still has a future in music. Maybe it won't be in Arena Rock, but he is a handsome guy and he has talent. Maybe his voice will get well. Whatever went on...won't matter in the long run in the grand scheme of things. We aren't supposed to forgive people because they deserve it, we do it because it is the right thing to do. imo its time for people to stop judging this person.

That is the most retarded Goddamned thing I have ever read.

Dude kick back. She's cool. She's just got Christmas spirit & forgiveness is a part of that (think of Scrooge). Trust me. That's what she meant. She's looking forward to the future.

Thank You Journey Rox......!!!

[NealIsGod]

Deano, has Augie invited you to sing BG vox on his new album?

[ArnelRox]

Deano, has Augie invited you to sing BG vox on his new album?

Nah, even if Deano was drunk off his ass & wailing out of tune, he'd still outshine Augie. Can't have that.

[Red13JoePa]

Deano, has Augie invited you to sing BG vox on his new album?

LOL, 'member when he had the post stating he'd been singing and actually sounds like Perry?

[NealIsGod]

Deano, has Augie invited you to sing BG vox on his new album?

LOL, 'member when he had the post stating he'd been singing and actually sounds like Perry?

Joe Perry, maybe.

[duke22]

Joe Perry, maybe.

You know the funny part about that Joe Perry comment is the first time I saw Journey back in the 70's it was the Joe Perry Ptoject that opened for them.

[NealIsGod]

Joe Perry, maybe.

You know the funny part about that Joe Perry comment is the first time I saw Journey back in the 70's it was the Joe Perry Ptoject that opened for them.

I have that horrible album on vinyl (the first one). Ugh.

I forgot who opened for Journey when I saw them on the ROR tour. Anyone remember? Was it Glass Tiger?

[duke22]

Yes Nig. ROR tour was Glass Tiger

[ArnelRox]

Joe Perry, maybe.

You know the funny part about that Joe Perry comment is the first time I saw Journey back in the 70's it was the Joe Perry Ptoject that opened for them.

Joe Perry, another hottie. Also a super nice guy.

How did his band sound? Any good?

[duke22]

Joe Perry, another hottie. Also a super nice guy.
How did his band sound? Any good?

I'll be honest that was a psychodelic time in my life and I don't remember. The one thing that I still remember from the show is People and Places and the spot lights rotating from each guy.

[NealIsGod]

Yes Nig. ROR tour was Glass Tiger

Fitting.

[Red13JoePa]

Joe Perry, maybe.

Joe Perry, another hottie.

You disagree with agree w/ Yulog's post of the other day that these type of things make some of the postings on here no different that the Augeri slobbering on BT, yet you're compelled to open your remarks with that comment.

[ArnelRox]

Joe Perry, maybe.

Joe Perry, another hottie.

You disagree with agree w/ Yulog's post of the other day that these type of things make some of the postings on here no different that the Augeri slobbering on BT, yet you're compelled to open your remarks with that comment.

Oh come on Grandpa. This is hysterical! I'm a hot blooded woman who appreciates a hot looking man. No girl is allowed to say a guy is hot? U know what's good for the goose is good for the gander. That would mean no guy could say a girl celeb is hot either. I don't think the majority of guys on here would be for that.

Get a grip old man. U have a been in ur bonnet about me for some reason. Why don't u hash it out w/me in PM or IM or hell I'll even give u my phone number. Quit ragging on me on the forum for Andrew's & everyone else's sake.

[Red13JoePa]

All I'm saying is don't deny that your posts sometimes call to mind the very thing your like mock augeri-worshiping BackTalkers for.
To do so is a tad hippo-critical.

BTW, your second sentance in that last paragraph is sort of frightening. You're overreacting a little when all we're doing is talking here.

the veil over your "I'm telling Andrew on you" card is very thin, too.

[ArnelRox]

All I'm saying is don't deny that your posts sometimes call to mind the very thing your like mock augeri-worshiping BackTalkers for.
To do so is a tad hippo-critical.

BTW, your second sentance in that last paragraph is sort of frightening. You're overreacting a little when all we're doing is talking here.

the veil over your "I'm telling Andrew on you" card is very thin, too.

I don't think most people here would think I do anything like worship the wiggle or red leathers. Especially b/c I DO talk about other things too. Really, if I'm wrong for saying a man is hot, then all the men on here are wrong for saying women are hot. Look at the thread where a guy talks about how hot the lead singer of Evanescence is & wishes for a duet w/her & Jeff. Why aren't u all over him for saying that? No, it's me u pick on b/c u have a problem w/me for some reason.

Frightening, overreacting? No. I'm just tired of u ragging on me all the time & I don't think it should be done in public b/c that spoils everyone else's enjoyment of the forum. I never said I'll tell Andrew on u. I don't do that & I don't like wasting Andrew's time. I invited u to take this private & hash out ur problems w/me. That way, everyone doesn't have to read them day after day & get bored. That's all. So once again, PM me & be reasonable here. Ok?