Deen's interview

[junky]

From what I noticed at the concert I attended, was that JSS does clown around with the band members a lot. He plays to all the guys. At one time, he wiped the sweat off Ross's face, then wiped his own and then danced over to Schon and fanned Neal with the cloth. EWWWWWwwwwww! Augeri did work the crowd more just as JSS works the guys.

Atleast JSS keeps the sweat away from the crowd. Augeri used to throw his nasty sweat rag into the crowd, THAT was gross.

[larryfromnextdoor]

it seems to be ok to lyp sync.. as long as your tape never messes up ,, then a small circus errupts... janet jackson on leno last year.. paaaaaathetic... j.lo on the music awards a few years back,, same thing,, perfect vocals , while shes dancing ect... terrible.. then little billy gilman comes out and sings LIVE ,, no light show, or huge production,, showed all the "stars" how to do it.. britney , madonna,, its ok , just dont get caught,,

In all fairness, there's a huge difference between Journey, a band that was always known for their brilliant live performances & soaring vocals, & Janet Jackson, JLo, Britney, Madonna, etc. who were always known for their dancing, jiggling & shock tactics.

you absolutley right,, i just didnt know how to put it all together..

[The_Noble_Cause]

You think their was a subliminal message ?

Had all the subtlety of a runaway freight train storming thru your living room.

The message is loud and clear - certain other bandmates lipsynch, but don't dare go on the web and say I do.

Come to think about it, Deen has lots to get pissed over.
In Manchester, the tapes abruptly went out and Deen had to cover for Steve.
Throughout the '05 tour, the "Escape" duet had Deen trading off vocals with a recorded voice.
How embarassing is that?
That's enough to make any genuine artist go ballistic.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Atleast JSS keeps the sweat away from the crowd. Augeri used to throw his nasty sweat rag into the crowd, THAT was gross.

Yup. One time I saw two fans have a tug-of-war contest with it.
Like a pack of hyenas warring over a carcass.
The eventually split it in half.

[junky]

Come to think about it, Deen has lots to get pissed over.
In Manchester, the tapes abruptly went out and Deen had to cover for Steve.
Throughout the '05 tour, the "Escape" duet had Deen trading off vocals with a recorded voice.
How embarassing is that?
That's enough to make any genuine artist go ballistic.

Yes, this is the burden I was refering to.

Also, Deen blew out a vocal chord last year under the pretense of taking the pressure off Augeri, when there was no pressure, just tapes.

That's gotta suck.

[Jeremey]

I'm reminded a little of the movie "Full Metal Jacket." Where Private Pyle's failings are going to bring down the wrath of the Sgt Hartman on the entire platoon. So Pvt Joker and everyone else has to carry Pvt Pyle along, clean his gun for him, prop him up on the obstacle course and runs, etc. Pvt Pyle thinks everyone is helping him. What's really happening is Pvt Pyle is getting a free ride at the expense of everyone else in the platoon. Eventually, there's a blanket party, which leads to Pyle's mental collapse and subsequent murder/suicide.

In tonight's performance of "Full Metal Jacket," the roles of _____ will be performed by the following members of Journey:

[ArnelRox]

Atleast JSS keeps the sweat away from the crowd. Augeri used to throw his nasty sweat rag into the crowd, THAT was gross.

Yeah but those wiggling women loved it! They wiped it all over their bodies. Ewww.

[Abitaman]

When Augeri had to leave the stage in such humiliation, I felt that the band had lost their last vestige of class in allowing that to happen. Journey is not a classy act anymore, imo. The feeling is elemental, overall.

It sould never have came to that. They were suppose to take this year off. All are to balme in this-ERIC

[ohsherrie]

I'm reminded a little of the movie "Full Metal Jacket." Where Private Pyle's failings are going to bring down the wrath of the Sgt Hartman on the entire platoon. So Pvt Joker and everyone else has to carry Pvt Pyle along, clean his gun for him, prop him up on the obstacle course and runs, etc. Pvt Pyle thinks everyone is helping him. What's really happening is Pvt Pyle is getting a free ride at the expense of everyone else in the platoon. Eventually, there's a blanket party, which leads to Pyle's mental collapse and subsequent murder/suicide.

In tonight's performance of "Full Metal Jacket," the roles of _____ will be performed by the following members of Journey:

Great analogy. Especially since Journey's PVT Pyle wasn't just a hired gun. He was a vested member of the unit and had to be protected until they just couldn't take it anymore.

[ArnelRox]

When Augeri had to leave the stage in such humiliation, I felt that the band had lost their last vestige of class in allowing that to happen. Journey is not a classy act anymore, imo. The feeling is elemental, overall.

It sould never have came to that. They were suppose to take this year off. All are to balme in this-ERIC

Eric, are u assuming SA's vocal troubles only started this year? That's NOT the case. Whether they had taken this yr off or not, something had to happen. Otherwise, he would have been lipping next yr.

Augeri should have stepped down a yr ago. If he had, we would all be thinking fondly of him right now & fans wouldn't be at each other's throats the way they are.

[Jeremey]

In tonight's performance of "Full Metal Jacket," the roles of _____ will be performed by the following members of Journey:

Private Joker: Deen Castronovo
Private Pyle: Steve Augeri
Sgt Hartman: The Fans

Action:

Private Joker: "Leonard, if Hartman finds us here we'll be in a world of shit."
Private Pyle: "I am...In a world....of Shit."

___________________________________

Performed while walking offstage in Raleigh, NC.

[The_Noble_Cause]

In tonight's performance of "Full Metal Jacket," the roles of _____ will be performed by the following members of Journey:

Private Joker: Deen Castronovo
Private Pyle: Steve Augeri
Sgt Hartman: The Fans

Action:

Private Joker: "Leonard, if Hartman finds us here we'll be in a world of shit."
Private Pyle: "I am...In a world....of Shit."

___________________________________

Performed while walking offstage in Raleigh, NC.

LOL

[NoMoreTails]

I agree something can be read into Deen comments here but it gives rise to a question:
If Deen was put out with covering for SA and the toll it was taking on his own voice and if he was unapproving of the tape issue and concerned that Neal was unhappy with SA being the vocalist, why was he willing to (allegedly) go to blows with Neal earlier this year (probably before the South America show was cancelled) at the prospect of SA being replaced with a singer who had (allegedly) been auditioned?

[The_Noble_Cause]

They were suppose to take this year off. All are to balme in this-ERIC

Dave pointed out that only Augeri stated they were going to take a year off.
Did the other guys ever say it?
Maybe that was more of a personal hope, than a band decision.

I was informed by someone credible that the plan was to take a break after the UK tour.
The question is - would the band ever have started up again?

[SF-Dano]

I agree something can be read into Deen comments here but it gives rise to a question:
If Deen was put out with covering for SA and the toll it was taking on his own voice and if he was unapproving of the tape issue and concerned that Neal was unhappy with SA being the vocalist, why was he willing to (allegedly) go to blows with Neal earlier this year (probably before the South America show was cancelled) at the prospect of SA being replaced with a singer who had (allegedly) been auditioned?

I was just wondering the same thing as I was reading through this thread. Why the alleged fist fight? Why still refer to Augerie as a brother? And who was the guy who had been auditioned? (JSS?)

Would love to get the full details on this.

[NoMoreTails]

Why still refer to Augerie as a brother?.

Perhaps too much is being read into at least some of Deen's comments who knows. I don't know that Deen would be the type to throw in subtle jabs, thats more Neal's make up.

And who was the guy who had been auditioned? (JSS?).

Supposedly a Perry sound-alike from Vegas.

[NealIsGod]

And who was the guy who had been auditioned? (JSS?).

Supposedly a Perry sound-alike from Vegas.

This dude:

[ohsherrie]

And who was the guy who had been auditioned? (JSS?).

Supposedly a Perry sound-alike from Vegas.

This dude:

Another home run for NIG.



Seriously though, I think the brother comment by Deen is being over analyzed. Maybe he was just saying what he thought was the proper PC/PR thing to say, or maybe he was just referring to him in a sort generic "brother" sort of way because they've both been in Journey. Who knows? We're talking about real people here, not Simms musician characters.

Maybe the fact that they hadn't been in personal contact except when Augeri showed up at the NJ show shouldn't be seen so much as a mark against the band as a statement about the real relationship involved.

[ArnelRox]

Maybe the fact that they hadn't been in personal contact except when Augeri showed up at the NJ show shouldn't be seen so much as a mark against the band as a statement about the real relationship involved.

That is something everyone is WAY over reacting to. The NJ show was mid-Sept. & Andrew's interviews were mid-Oct. That's only a month while the ban was ON THE ROAD. I think everyone assumes b/c the interviews came out now at the end of Dec., no one spoke to SA for SUCH a long time. We don't know what went down. We can assume legal battles. But we also don't know if anyone spoke to SA between mid-Oct & now, do we?

[ohsherrie]

Maybe the fact that they hadn't been in personal contact except when Augeri showed up at the NJ show shouldn't be seen so much as a mark against the band as a statement about the real relationship involved.

That is something everyone is WAY over reacting to. The NJ show was mid-Sept. & Andrew's interviews were mid-Oct. That's only a month while the ban was ON THE ROAD. I think everyone assumes b/c the interviews came out now at the end of Dec., no one spoke to SA for SUCH a long time. We don't know what went down. We can assume legal battles. But we also don't know if anyone spoke to SA between mid-Oct & now, do we?

Good point Suz. I think some people are just looking for a reason to blame anyone but Augeri for anything they can think of.

[Red13JoePa]

Why still refer to Augerie as a brother?.

I don't know that Deen would be the type to throw in subtle jabs, thats more Neal's make up.

Ah, er,...now why would you say that, "NoMoreTails?"

[NoMoreTails]

Why still refer to Augerie as a brother?.

I don't know that Deen would be the type to throw in subtle jabs, thats more Neal's make up.

Ah, er,...now why would you say that, "NoMoreTails?"

Just goin based on the "unjust" comments 'heads claim he's made against Perry's hip story...