I have stepped into the fray...

[RossValoryRocks]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum14 ... 064-2.html

I feel like Spock agruing with Dr. McCoy.

[Clasicrockldy]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000064-2.html

I feel like Spock agruing with Dr. McCoy.

Lmaooo RVR ! I love the analogy ! Anyway, I haven't had the time yet to post over there, but I am glad that you have made your appearance ! Awesome posts you have written ! Well done !

Live long and prosper, Mr. Spock !

[Monker]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000064-2.html

I feel like Spock agruing with Dr. McCoy.

I don't get it. What did you EXPECT to happen? You basicaly told everybody that they didn't know what they were talking about and if they didn't like Journey any longer that you would like to know why they were in the forum in the first place.

Then the party thing is brought...Well, when you associate with people who have expressed such HATRED towards the posters of BT, and blatantly insulted them, do you expect them to be happy and accepting to you?

I mean, what is so suprising the posts in this thread and their reaction to you?

[RossValoryRocks]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000064-2.html

I feel like Spock agruing with Dr. McCoy.

I don't get it. What did you EXPECT to happen? You basicaly told everybody that they didn't know what they were talking about and if they didn't like Journey any longer that you would like to know why they were in the forum in the first place.

Then the party thing is brought...Well, when you associate with people who have expressed such HATRED towards the posters of BT, and blatantly insulted them, do you expect them to be happy and accepting to you?

I mean, what is so suprising the posts in this thread and their reaction to you?

I expect people to use a little more thought, and base their responses on good information, not the delusional rantings based on a 6 paragraph statement that wasn't overly informative. They don't posses the information required to make an informed opinion. And Journey is not required to give them one.

[Monker]

I expect people to use a little more thought, and base their responses on good information, not the delusional rantings based on a 6 paragraph statement that wasn't overly informative. They don't posses the information required to make an informed opinion. And Journey is not required to give them one.

Well, Mr. Spock, you expect too much out of Bones since he reacts and bases his 'opinion' so much on emotion at times. It is not a REQUIREMENT to be "informed" to have an opinion. I also believe saying they are 'delusional' rantings is a bit of an emotional response from you. . Vulcans are not equpped for such emotions and you had best keep them in check.

Journey may not be REQUIRED to give out more information, and neither is Andrew. However, it is a pretty damn STUPID decision not to. If it was a MUTUAL decision between Augeri and Perry, why the hell didn't they even give a HINT that it was? The way this has been presented it SEEMS like Augeri got sick, JSS stepped in for the tour. They like JSS better so they told Augeri to take a hike. That's the way this has been presented.

This is the most ridiculous fiasco that could have ever happened...and Journey has nobody to blame but themselves.

[Tom Jrnyfn]

I do have a very nice, genuine friend who is very unhappy about this..I do understand her frustration..She has the class not to go on a rampage though..I respect her point of view

[Clasicrockldy]

Monker,

It wasn't a mutual decision between Augeri and PERRY......... it was a mutual decision between Augeri and JOURNEY ! Sheesh, get it right.

[Rockindeano]

Stu,

This shows me your character.

To be friends with Ross Valory, fight me, ultimately listen to me, then admit publicly I was correct.....wow. Then you and I met and it was great. Then you proudly say I didn't tell ONE lie on BT no less.

Thanks for being a stand up guy.

Look, those over there are about to leap from the bridge.....over anger.....and get this, they fought me tooth and nail, told me I was spreading lies, and now, they ALL admit tapes were in fact used. However, now, instead of saying Dean was a liar, they blame Neal, Jon and Deen and the guy they fight for, was the deceiver. Let em go. One by one, the fanbase gets a little better and a lot lighter.

[Monker]

Monker,

It wasn't a mutual decision between Augeri and PERRY......... it was a mutual decision between Augeri and JOURNEY ! Sheesh, get it right.

Just shows how much of a Perry impersonator JSS is! heh.

[Rockindeano]

Just shows how much of a Perry impersonator JSS is! heh.

Funny that is.

If that is true, then you miss are a Iowan vaginal yeast infection impersonator.

I hate you, you fuckin bitch.

[tammy]

I enjoyed reading the "who drove who where" part. lol. Those arguing fans are the diehard SA fans & they won't budge from that no matter what...even the truth won't matter. They have to have their say as all of us do on these message boards, it is understandable. I think they are blaming the band for "holding a gun" to SA to make him use tapes...that he is the innocent one. What - he couldn't say, "no way, I have principles - I have greater respect for this band than that" ??

[Monker]

Just shows how much of a Perry impersonator JSS is! heh.

Funny that is.

If that is true, then you miss are a Iowan vaginal yeast infection impersonator.

I hate you, you fuckin bitch.

Awww, then you must just love me sooo much...

Cuz, I was just kidding in what you quoted above.

[Monker]

I enjoyed reading the "who drove who where" part. lol. Those arguing fans are the diehard SA fans & they won't budge from that no matter what...even the truth won't matter. They have to have their say as all of us do on these message boards, it is understandable. I think they are blaming the band for "holding a gun" to SA to make him use tapes...that he is the innocent one. What - he couldn't say, "no way, I have principles - I have greater respect for this band than that" ??

If you actually READ the posts there you will find that "using tapes" subject is hardly even brought up. Most people are pssied about the statements...and I think they are a bit justified in it. I wonder if they really understand how badly they have handled this.

[Rockindeano]

I enjoyed reading the "who drove who where" part. lol. Those arguing fans are the diehard SA fans & they won't budge from that no matter what...even the truth won't matter. They have to have their say as all of us do on these message boards, it is understandable. I think they are blaming the band for "holding a gun" to SA to make him use tapes...that he is the innocent one. What - he couldn't say, "no way, I have principles - I have greater respect for this band than that" ??

If you actually READ the posts there you will find that "using tapes" subject is hardly even brought up. Most people are pssied about the statements...and I think they are a bit justified in it. I wonder if they really understand how badly they have handled this.

Try reading through all the BS...

They all admit tapes were used now. They need another cause to blame and Neal is the new target. They need someone or something to blame except Augeri.

[Monker]

I enjoyed reading the "who drove who where" part. lol. Those arguing fans are the diehard SA fans & they won't budge from that no matter what...even the truth won't matter. They have to have their say as all of us do on these message boards, it is understandable. I think they are blaming the band for "holding a gun" to SA to make him use tapes...that he is the innocent one. What - he couldn't say, "no way, I have principles - I have greater respect for this band than that" ??

If you actually READ the posts there you will find that "using tapes" subject is hardly even brought up. Most people are pssied about the statements...and I think they are a bit justified in it. I wonder if they really understand how badly they have handled this.

Try reading through all the BS...

They all admit tapes were used now. They need another cause to blame and Neal is the new target. They need someone or something to blame except Augeri.

I do read thru the BS, and there is always a huge amount coming from you. The tape thing is hardly even brought up. I think most there are scared to even post about it. Yeah, they blame Neal for having an ego...and recent events seem to support that theory. So what?

The bottom line is they feel that Augeri got screwed. The band statement and interviews LEAVE THAT IMPRESSION. That is general impression that this entire scenerio has given. I can't believe that THIS is what Journey wanted.

What kinda yes-men are surrounding Journey nowadays? Is all they hear that JSS is a vocal god, that for every fan that leaves 10 will come aboard, Journey blew away DL every show, Journey can sell large venues and be as big as they were in 198x? My god, when is reality going to smack those guys in the face?

There is so much over-hyped, exagerated, BULLSHIT being thrown around that Journey doesn't even know how to talk to their fans anymore. There is NO connection there. They now only connect with a TINY minority of people who seem to praise everything they do....and this is what it has led to - TOTAL CHAOS.

[ArnelRox]

I do have a very nice, genuine friend who is very unhappy about this..I do understand her frustration..She has the class not to go on a rampage though..I respect her point of view

Hmm I have a friend like that too. She isn't on BT spouting off either. She was never a Journey fan. She supported SA since his TS days in NY. She has actually started to really appreciate JSS & is getting really into his back catalogue. See, that's what all these naysayers need to do. If they really heard JSS & what he's written, they'd realize what a bonus he is to Journey.

[ArnelRox]

If that is true, then you miss are a Iowan vaginal yeast infection impersonator.

I hate you, you fuckin bitch.

OMG that has to be the funniest post this week. Oh & surprisingly accurate.

Monker just stirs it. Why bother even responding to that creature? He has nothing better to do in his life.

[Andrew]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000064-2.html

I feel like Spock agruing with Dr. McCoy.

Read your post. Great! But stopped there. Can't go any further, as I want to retain good vibes for the holidays. No bad karma wanted!

[Ms_M]

Excellent posts Stuart! You asked the one question no one wants to answer - if you don't like them anymore - WHY ARE YOU HERE? I think that could be said on any message board.

[Monker]

Excellent posts Stuart! You asked the one question no one wants to answer - if you don't like them anymore - WHY ARE YOU HERE? I think that could be said on any message board.

What kinda moron would even ask that question within a week of this announcement?

They are there because they are fans of the Augeri led Journey and are pissed off at how the band handled this situation, and the interviews that Andrew has on this site.

So, give it more then just a few days. This time next year may be at least a LITTLE different.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

...The way this has been presented it SEEMS like Augeri got sick, JSS stepped in for the tour. They like JSS better so they told Augeri to take a hike. That's the way this has been presented.

This is EXACTLY what's pissed me off. I can't speak for anyone else but it appears to me that many feel the same.

You're right. JOURNEY's got no one to blame for the reactions except themselves. You just can't blame people for their reactions to the whole "BUH-bye!" attitude seemingly expressed towards SA.

This will eventually blow over like all of the other personnel changes in the past but it will leave a bad taste in many people's mouths.

Fortunately, for each one of those people ten more will enjoy a sweet taste. I still can't believe the 1-10 statement was made. I know it was well-intended but it came across as much of a heartless remark as the whole announcement did.

[knox]

I thought the 1 and 10 comment was dead on, gutsy, and straight up honest. Not something you see everyday, especially with Journey.

[donnaplease]

Damn, Stuart!!! I almost wasted as much of my life reading that as you did posting about it!! Sheesh!!! Those guys act like a bunch of middle schoolers! I felt like I was watching a Pee Wee Herman movie...

[Lula]

Damn, Stuart!!! I almost wasted as much of my life reading that as you did posting about it!! Sheesh!!! Those guys act like a bunch of middle schoolers! I felt like I was watching a Pee Wee Herman movie...

Love Pee Wee.

I made the mistake of posting.... opened myself up to some lovely words. There is so much untruth floating around. I wish I could do today over.

[Barb]

I can't believe we're going through this all over again! Didn't we just do this in 1998?

[donnaplease]

Damn, Stuart!!! I almost wasted as much of my life reading that as you did posting about it!! Sheesh!!! Those guys act like a bunch of middle schoolers! I felt like I was watching a Pee Wee Herman movie...

Love Pee Wee.

I made the mistake of posting.... opened myself up to some lovely words. There is so much untruth floating around. I wish I could do today over.

No do-overs allowed! Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!!!

[Lula]

Love you Donna!!

[donnaplease]

Love you Donna!!

Right back atcha, honey!!!

[donnaplease]

Hey, here's another one...this is Deano when he gets his special package in the mail from DCVader...



Just kidding, Deano. You know I love ya!!!

[Monker]

I can't believe we're going through this all over again! Didn't we just do this in 1998?

Yep. Except, back then, it kinda mattered.

Today, it's like our parents arguing if the new singer for the Temptations is going to bring the band back to their heyday.