The Only Thing

[Granny]

So, how can we repair the damage and help get Andrew out of this mess?

I don't see any damage. This board rocked when Deano was holding court. More information was presented right here than anywhere else.

There's only a mess when you cave in to the naysayers that come on here and criticize. Ask yourselves this - of that group, how many will spend one dime on a Journey show? How many of them actually support the band?

Not many. They just want "intelligent discussion". There is only so much to discuss, it's all been done. When something important happens, the information gets here (usually first) and we do discuss it.

I enjoy MR for the friends I have made. The best part is coordinating get togethers for stuff like going to see Jeremey's Frontiers, the trip to see Journey in February in Florida in February, sharing rare live material, and dare I say it - exchanging relevant information about the band.

Gotcha AR, the people here, the friends I've made, the sharing of information and music, and the community itself are what I like best here too. I wasn't talking about repairing the board. I meant helping Andrew repair the damage to his reputation that the results of tapegate erupting on this board caused. It wasn't just the regulars on this board that caused it. It was also the ones that came here to fight against the truth and attack the messengers. Now they've gone back to their respective messageboard homes and are still taking pot shots at Andrew, Dean and MR. This board healed it's wounds from within, but it's still under attack and Andrew's rep along with it.

What I was saying is that it's now up to those of us who live here to support Andrew in his efforts to make this more of an even playing field because that's what he wants and he is our leader.

There's plenty of room here for uploads/downloads, fan reviews, news and info about the band, and just shooting the shit, as well as discussion and more serious threads. No one has to participate in any thread that isn't to their particular taste. I like all of it. I go to the Forums for more discussions because I like them and there are more of them there. I can also get raunchy and throw around some shit as you well know.



I hope that answered your questions Donna and Carol.

It sure did and u said it so beautifully and thats what I meant also...I'm glad u explained it in detail for everyone to understand...Thank you so much, Sherrie....

[ohsherrie]

It sure did and u said it so beautifully and thats what I meant also...I'm glad u explained it in detail for everyone to understand...Thank you so much, Sherrie....

Thanks Carol.

[ohsherrie]

Agree. It's post or don't post.
Not rocket science.

It's a forum and a rock band, not breaking down the Berlin Wall.

GET OUT!!!

[Red13JoePa]

Agree. It's post or don't post.
Not rocket science.

It's a forum and a rock band, not breaking down the Berlin Wall.

GET OUT!!!

I will if I feel the need to and if it happens there won't be speeches.

I'll just be out.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Here is what you windbags sound like:

"Gee, you're right Fyre, I am so glad that I sit behind this keyboard all day and over analyze 20 year old albums. We are so lucky to have this forum to express ourselves."

Go over to your boring site and fucking stay there.

I wrote a very PERSONAL account of how the first album changed my life and how/why I appreciate it - and you want to slam me for that.

Not real sure how to respond to that.

[AR]

Here is what you windbags sound like:

"Gee, you're right Fyre, I am so glad that I sit behind this keyboard all day and over analyze 20 year old albums. We are so lucky to have this forum to express ourselves."

Go over to your boring site and fucking stay there.

I wrote a very PERSONAL account of how the first album changed my life and how/why I appreciate it - and you want to slam me for that.

Not real sure how to respond to that.

I didn't read your account. That ficticious conversation was a parody. You can insert one of the others' names in there if it makes you feel better.

[AR]

Here is what you windbags sound like:

"Gee, you're right Fyre, I am so glad that I sit behind this keyboard all day and over analyze 20 year old albums. We are so lucky to have this forum to express ourselves."

Go over to your boring site and fucking stay there.

I wrote a very PERSONAL account of how the first album changed my life and how/why I appreciate it - and you want to slam me for that.

Not real sure how to respond to that.

Kind of funny though how I made something up, and there was an actual post there that it resembled apparently.

Later on I will post about how the bonus tracks on the remasters made me weep.

[conversationpc]

Here is what you windbags sound like:

"Gee, you're right Fyre, I am so glad that I sit behind this keyboard all day and over analyze 20 year old albums. We are so lucky to have this forum to express ourselves."

Go over to your boring site and fucking stay there.

I wrote a very PERSONAL account of how the first album changed my life and how/why I appreciate it - and you want to slam me for that.

Not real sure how to respond to that.

Kind of funny though how I made something up, and there was an actual post there that it resembled apparently.

Later on I will post about how the bonus tracks on the remasters made me weep.

[Lula]

Agree. It's post or don't post.
Not rocket science.

It's a forum and a rock band, not breaking down the Berlin Wall.

GET OUT!!!

I will if I feel the need to and if it happens there won't be speeches.

I'll just be out.

LOL! You know what I meant. You hit the nail on the head- it really is just a band, though I love 'em dearly . Too many blown out of proportion crap going on.

[Liz22562]

Lula said: "Too many blown out of proportion crap going on."


And in MHO, that about sums up what has happened since last summer.....

[The_Noble_Cause]

What you quoted above IS perfectly accurate and truthful, because that IS what I think is going to happen and I am NOT interested in it.

Well, Neal and Jeff have already stated otherwise.

You wrote off Jeff as a heavy metal singer from the word "go".
What you did was no different than the Perryloons who insultingly wrote off Augeri as a karaoke singer.
Why should such wafer-thin arguments actually be listened to?
All you and Fred did was spout erroneous crap.
Yes, you may have been called certain expletives, but that was an ancillary consequence of sowing bullshit.
Deano and others were just trying to set fans straight.

Andrew's 'crime', if YOU want to call it that, is allowing one sect of fans wack everybody else on the forum who dared have an opinion that disagreed with theirs. When I say 'wack', I mean attack the POSTER instead of what they said. Once that was not only allowed here, but DOMINATED the forum, this forum earned the reputation that it has and he along with it.

He never forbid you, or others, from responding in-kind (and when urged, you're known to dish it out just fine).
Deano's stock-in-trade is vulgarity.
It's the way he posts and I happen to think it's damn funny.
He wasn't given special license to rum amuck.
Nobody here was.

Like VH-1 and Usenet, this place was a hotbed of squalor - long before Deano ever showed up.

Now there is another option for the people who have been wacked in this forum, or who are frustrated with BT. It seems to me that if people want to get away from the attitudes here, or the over-moderation of BT, they can try journeyforums.com.

It's as simple as that. Some people here are really starting to sound like another forum in the mix threatens this one. Don't know why...you guys have what you want here, do you not? Not even the moderators of BT seem to worry about i. If people don't like this or BT, what is wrong with having another option?

I think the new forums are great.

[NealIsGod]

Lula said: "Too many blown out of proportion crap going on."


And in MHO, that about sums up what has happened since last summer.....

Yup. Right on, Lizard. This place is supposed to be fun. If it isn't, just find something else to do.

[AR]

This is the last thing I will say on the subject.

I'm not particularly a fan of the new forum. It just doesn't interest me.

However, notice, I don't go over there spouting off how I think they should be run? To each their own.

Coming over here and posting how some of us are "pottie mouths" or high school jock types will get you precisely the response you are obviously looking for. By the same token, showing interest in some of our activities and trips might get a cordial response as well.

Off soapbox now.

[conversationpc]

However, notice, I don't go over there spouting off how I think they should be run? To each their own.

Coming over here and posting how some of us are "pottie mouths" or high school jock types will get you precisely the response you are obviously looking for. By the same token, showing interest in some of our activities and trips might get a cordial response as well.

You're right.

[Andrew]

And now I think the dilema that has plagued me is on show for all to see.

Should I now issue stern warnings to stop bitching/fighting....should I delete a few posts....should I let you all slug it out as you have been doing? (In fairly resonable fashion mind you...)???

What a forum we have!

Now....excuse me while my head explodes

[Blueskies]

And now I think the dilema that has plagued me is on show for all to see.

Should I now issue stern warnings to stop bitching/fighting....should I delete a few posts....should I let you all slug it out as you have been doing? (In fairly resonable fashion mind you...)???

What a forum we have!

Now....excuse me while my head explodes

...oh Andrew....hang in there sweety....and know you are much loved by the overwhelming majority.

[AR]

And now I think the dilema that has plagued me is on show for all to see.

Should I now issue stern warnings to stop bitching/fighting....should I delete a few posts....should I let you all slug it out as you have been doing? (In fairly resonable fashion mind you...)???

What a forum we have!

Now....excuse me while my head explodes

Weighing in only because fearless leader has posted and not responding to anyone else:



Andrew, it is YOUR forum. Do whatever. For instance, if I got banned tomorrow I would understand.

You do have outside forces on this board, including band members, etc. I mod, 5 different boards (only 1 JRNY) and I just do whatever I want. Not as high profile as this is.

The only thing I can say is that when this place was at the height of of TG, it was the place to be.

Ed

[Andrew]

It's all ok....just keeping an eye on things.

[ohsherrie]

And now I think the dilema that has plagued me is on show for all to see.

Should I now issue stern warnings to stop bitching/fighting....should I delete a few posts....should I let you all slug it out as you have been doing? (In fairly resonable fashion mind you...)???

What a forum we have!

Now....excuse me while my head explodes

Just keep doing what you do. Except for the head exploding part.

[conversationpc]

And now I think the dilema that has plagued me is on show for all to see.

Should I now issue stern warnings to stop bitching/fighting....should I delete a few posts....should I let you all slug it out as you have been doing? (In fairly resonable fashion mind you...)???

What a forum we have!

Now....excuse me while my head explodes

Just keep doing what you do. Except for the head exploding part.

Duct tape works really well for that...

[Andrew]

Duct tape works really well for that...

Good tip. I'm on it.

[Blueskies]

Duct tape can fix anything!

[Crazie Scarab]

[nolippin]

Leader??? You can't be serious. Do you really think you need a leader??

That applause is well deserved....Since Deano has decided not to post here except only occasionally, we do need another "LEADER", wish it was Deano, his satire and humor are sorely missed....but you guys(and you know who u are) are doing a good job of it...There is only so much u can discuss on a topic and some peeps really beat it to death until no one wants to discuss it any longer....

I like just about everyone here but we certainly don't need any leaders.

[Rockindeano]

Well, he expresses his opinion which happenes to go against 90% of other posters' opinions. Typical message board replies.

Hey, if you have the Aces in your hand, you can be opposed and still win.

I did it with TG.

I had about 4 people believing in me when it started. Now 99% agree with me.

[Rockindeano]

This board rocked when Deano was holding court. More information was presented right here than anywhere else.

Thank you. I plan on holding court again soon, as in tomorrow and kicking major retard ass yet again. Sitting on the sidelines fucking sucks balls.

Reading Monker bitch and shamelessly promote another board, where he is more popular (because certain people here aren't over there), makes me fucking sick. Monker, you have thick skin? Ok. I think you look like a fucking person with downs syndrome . Ugly motherfucker to be sure.

McNeil. You are a bonafide cocksucking Limey with NOTHING productive to add EVER. Dude, you were incorrect in saying I don't oppose you. I hate you worse than a republican pedaphile. Kiss my ass.

Turn up the fucking heat. Time to get this board restarted.

[txfirefighter]

This board rocked when Deano was holding court. More information was presented right here than anywhere else.

Thank you. I plan on holding court again soon, as in tomorrow and kicking major retard ass yet again. Sitting on the sidelines fucking sucks balls.

Reading Monker bitch and shamelessly promote another board, where he is more popular (because certain people here aren't over there), makes me fucking sick. Monker, you have thick skin? Ok. I think you look like a fucking person with downs syndrome . Ugly motherfucker to be sure.

McNeil. You are a bonafide cocksucking Limey with NOTHING productive to add EVER. Dude, you were incorrect in saying I don't oppose you. I hate you worse than a republican pedaphile. Kiss my ass.

Turn up the fucking heat. Time to get this board restarted.

Let's get ready to ruuuuummmmmbbbbllleeeeeee...........

[Granny]

This board rocked when Deano was holding court. More information was presented right here than anywhere else.

Thank you. I plan on holding court again soon, as in tomorrow and kicking major retard ass yet again. Sitting on the sidelines fucking sucks balls.

Reading Monker bitch and shamelessly promote another board, where he is more popular (because certain people here aren't over there), makes me fucking sick. Monker, you have thick skin? Ok. I think you look like a fucking person with downs syndrome . Ugly motherfucker to be sure.

McNeil. You are a bonafide cocksucking Limey with NOTHING productive to add EVER. Dude, you were incorrect in saying I don't oppose you. I hate you worse than a republican pedaphile. Kiss my ass.

Turn up the fucking heat. Time to get this board restarted.

It's about fuckin time....

[stevew2]

This board rocked when Deano was holding court. More information was presented right here than anywhere else.

Thank you. I plan on holding court again soon, as in tomorrow and kicking major retard ass yet again. Sitting on the sidelines fucking sucks balls.

Reading Monker bitch and shamelessly promote another board, where he is more popular (because certain people here aren't over there), makes me fucking sick. Monker, you have thick skin? Ok. I think you look like a fucking person with downs syndrome . Ugly motherfucker to be sure.

McNeil. You are a bonafide cocksucking Limey with NOTHING productive to add EVER. Dude, you were incorrect in saying I don't oppose you. I hate you worse than a republican pedaphile. Kiss my ass.

Turn up the fucking heat. Time to get this board restarted.

It is about time. lets see some heads roll. Fuckin rock on Deano .You say it like it is!!

[journeywoman]

Finally someone is gonna kickstart this forum!Yeah