OT - Is USA ready for a female president!?

[ohsherrie]

Could care less really, a fucking cock roach could run the country with the proper financial backing.

That's what's been happening since 2000.

[Jrny1]

Fuck her.....I like Obama a lot...he's a good guy....Clean, clear and to the point....Obviously well educated...Not some bitch that came up through money and politics like Clinton..If she get's in, this country is more fucked up that I thought...No offense to women, but she's a "C"...

Obama was so impressive last year at the convention and since has realy played all the cards right...I think we are more ready to elect a black well educated man into office rather than some rabid pitbull bitch looking for purely power!!!! There..I feel better now.

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I like Obama too, but I like Hilary more. I haven't yet heard anyone give any legitimate reason for disliking her other than because she's a strong, intelligent woman who doesn't mind busting a few balls. But then again, that's probably why the guys don't like her. If she was more like Stratford Wife Laura Bush more men would probably like her. Afterall, a woman's place is trying to put more books in the school library, not trying to devise a plan to provide adequate health care to a nation, right?

If you think Clinton came up through money you need to do a little more research on that.

How'd she come then...Her whole family was politics and driven by money...

[rsimpson]

Fuck her.....I like Obama a lot...he's a good guy....Clean, clear and to the point....Obviously well educated...Not some bitch that came up through money and politics like Clinton..If she get's in, this country is more fucked up that I thought...No offense to women, but she's a "C"...

Obama was so impressive last year at the convention and since has realy played all the cards right...I think we are more ready to elect a black well educated man into office rather than some rabid pitbull bitch looking for purely power!!!! There..I feel better now.

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I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

[Enigma869]

Good old Hillary can't be much worse than George W....can she?

You would have to think that ANYONE could do a better job than the moron in the corner office, at the moment! He is, BY A LONG SHOT, the biggest buffoon I've ever seen elected president, in my lifetime! How's that Iraq think working out??? Find those weapons yet????


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

Not to mention the guy has given one speech in his entire lifetime, and that was at the DNC! Sorry, but, for my taste...I want someone with just a little more experience! I'm certainly not going to visit a doctor with no experience, anytime soon, so I definitely don't want some guy running the free world who is barely past puberty!


John from Boston

[squirt1]

I will vote for a woman if qualified,but NEVER Hillary. For all the economy naysayers just look at the stock market. If the economy was so bad then who in the hell is buying all the $300,000 plus houses. Here in Cincinnati you can't throw a rock and not hit a 500-1,000,000 home. Some cities have their incomes mainly in travel,the car industry. All their eggs in one basket,like the iron belt in northern Ohio creates pockets of poor local economies. This housing bubble was created by LOW interest rates for buyers,lower qualifying standards, and greed of home sellers & buyers. If you were one of the last onboard and overpaid, then you will be hard pressed to sell and not lose. I saw this same thing 30yrs ago. I also saw the gold cycle before in the '70s and told everyone I knew to buy when it was at $ 200.00. Everything is cyclical,but I am not sure if NAFTA has changed the way finances are handled by business and Gov't. When the Fed senses a hot economy they up the interest rates to cool it down. It really doesn;t have too much to do with any President. Maybe somewhat with the idiot Congress, but mainly the Chairman of the Fed.

[ohsherrie]

How'd she come then...Her whole family was politics and driven by money...

She married a guy from Arkansas who came up through poverty. Then the two of them together realized their dreams. They didn't do that through money. They did that through intelligence, dedication and guts.

[yogi]

Could she pick Bill as her running mate??

[Playitloudforme]

Glad she finally made it public. Go Hillary. Now ...what does one call Bill? First Gentleman? First Husband? First Cigar?

[ohsherrie]

Could she pick Bill as her running mate??

No, but any way you look at it we're getting two Clintons for our vote.

[ohsherrie]

Glad she finally made it public. Go Hillary. Now ...what does one call Bill? First Gentleman? First Husband? First Cigar?

Interesting question. Maybe First Former President in his case.

[jrnychick]

[quote="squirt1"]I will vote for a woman if qualified,but NEVER Hillary. For all the economy naysayers just look at the stock market. If the economy was so bad then who in the hell is buying all the $300,000 plus houses. Here in Cincinnati you can't throw a rock and not hit a 500-1,000,000 home. Some cities have their incomes mainly in travel,the car industry. All their eggs in one basket,like the iron belt in northern Ohio creates pockets of poor local economies. This housing bubble was created by LOW interest rates for buyers,lower qualifying standards, and greed of home sellers & buyers. If you were one of the last onboard and overpaid, then you will be hard pressed to sell and not lose. I saw this same thing 30yrs ago. I also saw the gold cycle before in the '70s and told everyone I knew to buy when it was at $ 200.00. Everything is cyclical,but I am not sure if NAFTA has changed the way finances are handled by business and Gov't. When the Fed senses a hot economy they up the interest rates to cool it down. It really doesn;t have too much to do with any President. Maybe somewhat with the idiot Congress, but mainly the Chairman of the Fed.[/quote]

I have to agree with you about the economy. Why is it so difficult for the general public to see that it doesn't matter who is president? The president has little, if any, affect on the economy. It seems like the media constantly puts out the false information that what the president does affects things like gas prices, housing prices, inflation, etc. So the general public thinks, "Gas prices were $3.00 a gallon when Bush was president--he drove the economy into the toilet." No matter who was president, those gas prices were going to be what they were.

[conversationpc]

And you honestly don't realize that it's that spending kick that has helped over inflate the numbers that indicate to you that our economy is stronger?

Sure I do. Republicans are mostly responsible for the out-of-control spending that's been going on over the last few years. There's no denying that. However, spending was still out of control before Bush was in office, dating back to as early as the 60s and 70s, and possibly before. I'd really like to see the numbers on spending versus saving now as compared to a decade or two ago.

Some of those people who don't have as much in their retirement accounts are in that situation because their companies screwed them out of part of it just before they closed operations in this country. I'm not just talking about the ones as obvious as Enron, it's being done to various degrees more covertly by a lot of companies.

That kind of thing disgusts me. I'm glad that the crooks in charge of Enron are being put behind bars one by one but it's not going to bring back the money that lots of working class people lost because of them.

You must be, or just totally deluded. The economy is absolutely not better for the majority of this country. The middle class is disappearing.[ Everyone sees that, even Trump.

Trump is a legend in his own mind. He knows as much about the middle class as I do about being a multi-millionaire.

I'm beginning to think you must live in a microcosm made up of your own political belief system, stereotypes and platitudes.

Sherrie, you really are ridiculous. I make concessions and agree with points made by people on the left all the time but you just can't bring yourself to agree with anything Bush says or give him credit where credit is due simply because of your blind hatred for him.

I concede that Clinton deserves credit for the economy during his term. I concede that Clinton deserves credit for the balanced bugdets during his term. I concede that Clinton deserves credit for welfare reform. What are you willing to concede that Bush should get credit for? If you say absolutely nothing, then it is obviously you who are livingin a "microcosm" of your own making. EVERY president, even the worst ones, deserve credit for SOMETHING. Heck, even Carter, who I believe to be possibly the worst President ever, deserves some respect at least for holding that office and even other positive things that came out of his administration. If I can find positive things that Carter accomplished, can you find even one? If not, I would examine why it is you hate Bush so much.

[Enigma869]

What are you willing to concede that Bush should get credit for?

I'm willing to give Bush credit for getting us into what is this generation's Vietnam War!!!!! He's the biggest dope I've ever seen get elected to the corner office. A president is supposed to inspire Americans with their eloquent speeches. Every time this jackass opens his mouth, I cringe listening to him, attempting to put an English sentence together! The one thing I will agree with you on is that Jimmy Carter was a very poor president. That said, he's the best ex-president this country has ever seen, and I would take Carter over Bush, ANYDAY! Carter at least managed not to get over 3000 American soldiers killed, fighting a war that should have never happened!


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

I'm willing to give Bush credit for getting us into what is this generation's Vietnam War!!!!! He's the biggest dope I've ever seen get elected to the corner office. A president is supposed to inspire Americans with their eloquent speeches. Every time this jackass opens his mouth, I cringe listening to him, attempting to put an English sentence together! The one thing I will agree with you on is that Jimmy Carter was a very poor president. That said, he's the best ex-president this country has ever seen, and I would take Carter over Bush, ANYDAY! Carter at least managed not to get over 3000 American soldiers killed, fighting a war that should have never happened!

Blind hatred at work. Gotta love it.

[ohsherrie]

Sherrie, you really are ridiculous. I make concessions and agree with points made by people on the left all the time but you just can't bring yourself to agree with anything Bush says or give him credit where credit is due simply because of your blind hatred for him.

I concede that Clinton deserves credit for the economy during his term. I concede that Clinton deserves credit for the balanced bugdets during his term. I concede that Clinton deserves credit for welfare reform. What are you willing to concede that Bush should get credit for? If you say absolutely nothing, then it is obviously you who are livingin a "microcosm" of your own making. EVERY president, even the worst ones, deserve credit for SOMETHING. Heck, even Carter, who I believe to be possibly the worst President ever, deserves some respect at least for holding that office and even other positive things that came out of his administration. If I can find positive things that Carter accomplished, can you find even one? If not, I would examine why it is you hate Bush so much.

Dave, I respect you tremendously despite our different political views. I'm not ridiculous, I just have honestly not found anything good to give Bush credit for. My hate for him isn't why I say that, but I doubt you'll ever believe that.
I agree with a lot of conservative values. I'm really not as liberal as you may think. I just don't agree with the overall policies of the Bush administration or the Republican party as it exists today. I can't see a thing that Bush has done that has had a positive effect on this country. What you see as positive and what I do are two different things, so it's not likely that I'm going to applaud him for what you see as positives.

[LucyFurr]

I'd rather see Osama Bin Ladin as our president rather than Hillary.

[StyxCollector]

I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

Wait a sec - good ol' W was a coke head and loved to party. He's had 8 years. I'm not saying I'd vote for Obama, but W isn't a saint.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-seer ... 37786.html

[Rick]

I'd really like to see the numbers on spending versus saving now as compared to a decade or two ago.

I understand your curiosity about that, and I'm fairly certain we would all be shocked at it's decline. I don't mean shocked, I mean SHOCKED! This country is living on credit.

[squirt1]

Will the media CNN MSNBC NBC CBS ans ABC ever cover the fact that Obama is a Muslim educated in a mendrassa in Indonesia and ask if he has any radical beliefs? Will anyone ask him if his Chicago political background will taint him? Will anyone ask themselves WHY he is qualified to be the Pres.with only 2 yrs in Congress. I don't want him protecting this country from terrorists. We WILL get hit sooner or later.Sooner if the Lib ACLU gets any more rights to terrorists who want to kill all of us. Bush has waived to them with 1 finger and I think that has slowed terror attacks by listening in to who they call in other countries.

[conversationpc]

I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

Wait a sec - good ol' W was a coke head and loved to party. He's had 8 years. I'm not saying I'd vote for Obama, but W isn't a saint.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-seer ... 37786.html

This is old news and who even really knows if it's true. To be honest, I don't really care if any politician used cocaine or smoked a joint at some point in their distant past.

[Rick]

Will the media CNN MSNBC NBC CBS ans ABC ever cover the fact that Obama is a Muslim educated in a mendrassa in Indonesia and ask if he has any radical beliefs? Will anyone ask him if his Chicago political background will taint him? Will anyone ask themselves WHY he is qualified to be the Pres.with only 2 yrs in Congress. I don't want him protecting this country from terrorists. We WILL get hit sooner or later.Sooner if the Lib ACLU gets any more rights to terrorists who want to kill all of us. Bush has waived to them with 1 finger and I think that has slowed terror attacks by listening in to who they call in other countries.

Well we've seen how the past several mudslinging elections have been handled. I'm sure all of Obama's life will be exploited for everyone to see. Just wait, they will make a stink about his middle name. Hussein. He only lived in Indonesia from ages 6 to 10. The majority of his education, and most importantly, his higher education has been in the U.S. including Harvard Law School, and was elected president of the Harvard Law Review. Was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard in 91 when he recieved his Doctor of Law. Not too bad for a young politician.

[conversationpc]

Well we've seen how the past several mudslinging elections have been handled. I'm sure all of Obama's life will be exploited for everyone to see. Just wait, they will make a stink about his middle name. Hussein. He only lived in Indonesia from ages 6 to 10. The majority of his education, and most importantly, his higher education has been in the U.S. including Harvard Law School, and was elected president of the Harvard Law Review. Was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard in 91 when he recieved his Doctor of Law. Not too bad for a young politician.

I'd never vote for Obama simply because of his liberal views. I don't agree with him on much. That being said, he does seem to be a genuinely nice and likable person.

[Rick]

I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

Wait a sec - good ol' W was a coke head and loved to party. He's had 8 years. I'm not saying I'd vote for Obama, but W isn't a saint.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-seer ... 37786.html

This is old news and who even really knows if it's true. To be honest, I don't really care if any politician used cocaine or smoked a joint at some point in their distant past.

Couldn't agree more. Didn't inhale? Wimp! Wait, I'm a Democrat!

[ohsherrie]

I don't care what any young person who later became a candidate did during their teenage, college, or young adult years in their recreation time. Booze, marijuana, or even cocaine don't bother me as long as it's long in the past before they started their political career. That is, as long as they, or their party, don't sling mud at any other candidate for like indiscretions.

Obama's connections to the Muslim community do bother me though. Maybe it means nothing more than any other religious affiliation, but it's worth a deeper look in this day and time. Call me conspiracy freak, but the infiltration of this country didn't just start since 2001.


See Dave, I'm not ALL liberal.

[rsimpson]

I'm not sure Obama is electable either. he has already admited to using cocaine in his past. That is not going to win him many votes.

Wait a sec - good ol' W was a coke head and loved to party. He's had 8 years. I'm not saying I'd vote for Obama, but W isn't a saint.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-seer ... 37786.html

This is old news and who even really knows if it's true. To be honest, I don't really care if any politician used cocaine or smoked a joint at some point in their distant past.

I don't know if it's true either and I honestly don't care, however alot of voters do.

[conversationpc]

Obama's connections to the Muslim community do bother me though. Maybe it means nothing more than any other religious affiliation, but it's worth a deeper look in this day and time. Call me conspiracy freak, but the infiltration of this country didn't just start since 2001.

Our intelligence community knows there are sleeper cells in this country that are waiting for just the right time to do their dirty deeds. They live and act like normal, every day, moderate Muslims. They don't bother their neighbors and they may even be kind and friendly to those around them. This is how some of those were described that were arrested in England for the failed terrorist plot a few months ago.

See Dave, I'm not ALL liberal.

There's hope for you yet. Now please report to the nearest hospital for a labotomy.

[Rick]

Our intelligence community knows there are sleeper cells in this country that are waiting for just the right time to do their dirty deeds. They live and act like normal, every day, moderate Muslims. They don't bother their neighbors and they may even be kind and friendly to those around them. This is how some of those were described that were arrested in England for the failed terrorist plot a few months ago.

That does scare me a bit, and why is it now that every gas station is owned or operated by muslims? Are they waiting for that time? They could blow all of them up on any given day and what the hell could we do without gas? We'd have to ride our bicycles to the nearest point of enlistment.

[ohsherrie]

Our intelligence community knows there are sleeper cells in this country that are waiting for just the right time to do their dirty deeds. They live and act like normal, every day, moderate Muslims. They don't bother their neighbors and they may even be kind and friendly to those around them. This is how some of those were described that were arrested in England for the failed terrorist plot a few months ago.

There's hope for you yet. Now please report to the nearest hospital for a labotomy.

I'll think about the labotomy after you give me your take on this scenario.

The nearest town to me has a population of about 2000. It's from 45 to 60 miles from any of what could be called cities in this area. In the last 10 years three businesses, one quick stop type gas station/food mart, and two Italian restaurants have shown up in this very small town. Hardly any small businesses of this nature have ever survived in this town, but these are thriving. The only thing that makes them different from the norm are that they're run by middle eastern people. There were NO people of that ethic group here before.

What's wrong with this picture?

[conversationpc]

The nearest town to me has a population of about 2000. It's from 45 to 60 miles from any of what could be called cities in this area. In the last 10 years three businesses, one quick stop type gas station/food mart, and two Italian restaurants have shown up in this very small town. Hardly any small businesses of this nature have ever survived in this town, but these are thriving. The only thing that makes them different from the norm are that they're run by middle eastern people. There were NO people of that ethic group here before.

What's wrong with this picture?

Hmmm...No idea really.