All You Conservative Bush Folk

[journeywoman]

Well since it has been so cold these days I'm all for GLOBAL WARMING.Yes, I love it if it means skipping the snow and all the old crap that comes with it bring it on....As for all the people in Iran,nukem!And all the people from there and Iraq that are in the US and want to terroize us put them all on a plane and drop them off in Afganistan!In the mountains that is. I'm still still trying to figure out where these people think by killing others and their selves there are 41 virgins waiting for them in paradise.These people are crazy. My ideas of paradise would be love and peace among all.And some of the old crone politicians please they should be ashamed of their self. And the upcoming new ones aren't much better.They are playing with our sons and daughters lives here.Each one should have one of their own in the war or military.Some of these brave ones can hardly make it as it is. And Congress wants to always give their selves raises?Shame,that's what it is!

Its because of attitudes like these from uneducated people like yourself that we have so many problems in the world and there's so much hatres towards us. And dont brag about how you got a PHD (or GED),,,, Im talking about global education.. not just going through and finish school!

You just think we should go and nuke innocent people because of some idiot fundamentalists? Well why dont we start of throwing some of our own idiots off the plans in the mountains!?
Any and every country has their own lowlives and if killing them would solve all the worlds problems, I'd say go for it.
You should try to understand that because some idiots make an entire country look bad, this doesnt mean that the entrie country is against us.

Its one thing to have an opinion about something, but to just be plain stupid and irrogant, thats just wrong!

Oh please dont get your panties up ina wod!I was simply bitchin because it's too cold and another thing I've had a son that's served in the military can you say that?No you are one of beaurcrats that sit and bitch out an office window. Have you ever had worry your head off because your son may get killed?These people do not care to Kill our sons and daughters!The President of Iraq is a terrorist, if they would spend more on their economy than worrying about having their own nukes and what they are going to do with them,just like North Korea maybe their people would not be starving! So Beshad walk a mile in a military Mom's life while your child is out defending our nation and assholes like you!

[Rosebud]

Because they arent a threat to our interests and they havent threatened to blow Israel off the map.

Maybe they're not a threat to our interests but they sure are a threat in the regoin. Pakistan may be nice to us now but when they have to choose they would stick to their neighbours side and fight us as well.
Speakin of blowing countries off the map, isnt Israel trying to get Palestine out of the map? Its easy to miss some points when you look at things from one angle my friend

Some people could possibly be feeling certain ways out of guilt that they haven't done anything to serve their country? Instead of sitting back and bitching about it and passing judgement, why not vote, send a care package to a service man or woman? better yet join a political movement, run for office, or join the miltary and actually serve.

[journeywoman]

I like your ideas.

[Behshad]

Well since it has been so cold these days I'm all for GLOBAL WARMING.Yes, I love it if it means skipping the snow and all the old crap that comes with it bring it on....As for all the people in Iran,nukem!And all the people from there and Iraq that are in the US and want to terroize us put them all on a plane and drop them off in Afganistan!In the mountains that is. I'm still still trying to figure out where these people think by killing others and their selves there are 41 virgins waiting for them in paradise.These people are crazy. My ideas of paradise would be love and peace among all.And some of the old crone politicians please they should be ashamed of their self. And the upcoming new ones aren't much better.They are playing with our sons and daughters lives here.Each one should have one of their own in the war or military.Some of these brave ones can hardly make it as it is. And Congress wants to always give their selves raises?Shame,that's what it is!

Its because of attitudes like these from uneducated people like yourself that we have so many problems in the world and there's so much hatres towards us. And dont brag about how you got a PHD (or GED),,,, Im talking about global education.. not just going through and finish school!

You just think we should go and nuke innocent people because of some idiot fundamentalists? Well why dont we start of throwing some of our own idiots off the plans in the mountains!?
Any and every country has their own lowlives and if killing them would solve all the worlds problems, I'd say go for it.
You should try to understand that because some idiots make an entire country look bad, this doesnt mean that the entrie country is against us.

Its one thing to have an opinion about something, but to just be plain stupid and irrogant, thats just wrong!

Oh please dont get your panties up ina wod!I was simply bitchin because it's too cold and another thing I've had a son that's served in the military can you say that?No you are one of beaurcrats that sit and bitch out an office window. Have you ever had worry your head off because your son may get killed?These people do not care to Kill our sons and daughters!The President of Iraq is a terrorist, if they would spend more on their economy than worrying about having their own nukes and what they are going to do with them,just like North Korea maybe their people would not be starving! So Beshad walk a mile in a military Mom's life while your child is out defending our nation and assholes like you!

So because you have a son that served the country you think we should nuke innocent people?
I support our troops 100%. But do I agree with the reason why theyre there gettin killed ? No!!!! Do I have a choice NO.... and trust me if I belived that our country was under threat from another country I would join and defend this country instead of sending my son.

You think youre hot shots cause you have a son there,, well I lost 2 very close friends and an uncle teh past 3 years.
You worry about the fact that your son may get killed? I recieved the message that my uncle got killed.

I may not be in the military but I this doesnt mean I dont respect and support them. I have and will continue to support every single soldier we have there untill theyre safe back home . I have helped with whatever I can from my side . Just cause I am not there doesnt make me a worse person than you. What I dont support is your idiotic suggestions of killing more innocent people. You think that those people that you just want nuked have no mothers and fathers? no sons and daughters? 2 wrongs dont make right.
And the worse thing we can do is get involved in another preemptive strike that will put more lives on the line.

[Behshad]

Because they arent a threat to our interests and they havent threatened to blow Israel off the map.

Maybe they're not a threat to our interests but they sure are a threat in the regoin. Pakistan may be nice to us now but when they have to choose they would stick to their neighbours side and fight us as well.
Speakin of blowing countries off the map, isnt Israel trying to get Palestine out of the map? Its easy to miss some points when you look at things from one angle my friend

Some people could possibly be feeling certain ways out of guilt that they haven't done anything to serve their country? Instead of sitting back and bitching about it and passing judgement, why not vote, send a care package to a service man or woman? better yet join a political movement, run for office, or join the miltary and actually serve.

Well if you have the guilt , do something about it. Trust me you will feel so much better about yourself once you find out that you did help your country!

[Marc S]

saintjohn wrote
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You're views are that of a **** .

Exactly the sort of redneck ignorant bullshit that got you guys in this mess in the first place - they scoop your brains out at birth 'saint john'?

[DerriD]

Keeping politics out of it, I guess the bottom line is you need to look at why Muslims act as they do. I am no expert in the field, but I've heard enough people who all echo the same statement...Muslims look at nations as fitting one of three categories. 1. Muslim countries. 2. Friendly non-Muslim countries that will eventually become Muslim countries. 3. Non-friendly Muslim countries that through Jihad will become Muslim countries. But the end result is the same, a one world religion. If you look at the Muslim countries, they immediately repress all other religions and allow NO freedom of speech or many freedoms of any kind. If you are a guy, it's not quite as bad as if you're a woman in those countries. Many people find the thought of fighting against the spread of radical Islam distasteful, mainly because we allow religous freedom here. Europeans hold those freedoms dear as well. But look at what happened in France recently because the schools were not letting the Muslim girls wear traditional headwear. Go look at Italy, where they predict that within 20-30 years, Italians will become a minority to Muslim immigrants. Once they become a majority, they can merely vote themselves into power and take over the country 'peacefully'. I don't pretend to have the answers, but it does seem very likely that perhaps within our lifetimes we will have to make some more difficult choices about how exactly to keep this a free country.

[Behshad]

Keeping politics out of it, I guess the bottom line is you need to look at why Muslims act as they do. I am no expert in the field, but I've heard enough people who all echo the same statement...Muslims look at nations as fitting one of three categories. 1. Muslim countries. 2. Friendly non-Muslim countries that will eventually become Muslim countries. 3. Non-friendly Muslim countries that through Jihad will become Muslim countries. But the end result is the same, a one world religion. If you look at the Muslim countries, they immediately repress all other religions and allow NO freedom of speech or many freedoms of any kind. If you are a guy, it's not quite as bad as if you're a woman in those countries. Many people find the thought of fighting against the spread of radical Islam distasteful, mainly because we allow religous freedom here. Europeans hold those freedoms dear as well. But look at what happened in France recently because the schools were not letting the Muslim girls wear traditional headwear. Go look at Italy, where they predict that within 20-30 years, Italians will become a minority to Muslim immigrants. Once they become a majority, they can merely vote themselves into power and take over the country 'peacefully'. I don't pretend to have the answers, but it does seem very likely that perhaps within our lifetimes we will have to make some more difficult choices about how exactly to keep this a free country.

DerriD, Youre somewhat right,,, but the part where you said "Keepin politics out of it" is what you really cant do in the cases of most islamic nations.Mixture of Politics and Religion is the MAIN reason of all and every problem originating from the middle east.


You see , anytime you mix religion with politics it equals to disaster. The average muslim guy that uses Islam as the sole purpose of religion for personal reason, is harmless. Once given the opportunity to use their beliefs ( or any beliefs for that matter) combined with political power to rule (whether its a handful of people or an entire nation), then we face extreme danger.
As I've said it before elsewhere , if we would give our political powers in US to Mormons or Jehova's Witness', the result would be as bad as the Jihadist muslims, if not worse.

[ohsherrie]

You see , anytime you mix religion with politics it equals to disaster. The average muslim guy that uses Islam as the sole purpose of religion for personal reason, is harmless. Once given the opportunity to use their beliefs ( or any beliefs for that matter) combined with political power to rule (whether its a handful of people or an entire nation), then we face extreme danger.
As I've said it before elsewhere , if we would give our political powers in US to Mormons or Jehova's Witness', the result would be as bad as the Jihadist muslims, if not worse.

You're absolutely right Behshad, it doesn't necessarily apply only to culturally recognized religions though. If you get masses of people behind any common cause and they are willing to fight "unto death" for it regardless of any other point of view, you have a dangerous faction. It just so happens that in our society most of those types of factions call themselves "religions". They're rightly called so according to the definition of religion, but that doesn't mean they're rightly guided by a higher power. Only that they believe they are. It's their prejudice against people who don't follow their particular doctrine that makes those masses become dangerous.

[Andrew]

Well, at least if that moron Bush went after Iran or North Korea, he'd at least have a legitimate reason for the attack. Unlike this Iraq debacle, where most of the country is still trying to figure out what the guy is doing. I think history is going to view this guy as bad as any president we've ever had. I always thought Carter was the worst president of my lifetime, until this guy came along!!!!


John from Boston

You're views are that of a **** .

Final warning. Next bit of abuse will result in a week's holiday.

[Rockindeano]

Final warning. Next bit of abuse will result in a week's holiday.

And just think, I have nothing to do with this. I am a good boy

[Saint John]

Final warning. Next bit of abuse will result in a week's holiday.

And just think, I have nothing to do with this. I am a good boy

You're a fag.

[Rockindeano]

Final warning. Next bit of abuse will result in a week's holiday.

And just think, I have nothing to do with this. I am a good boy

You're a fag.

No, St. John, just rationale and respectful to Mr McNeice.

[RossValoryRocks]

No, St. John, just rationale and respectful to Mr McNeice.

I never thought for one minute I would see that written by Dean...So it must be Lula posting as Deano.

[lights1961]

you all know where i stand on this... bomb the ***** out of the region to make em surrender. IE Germany 1945, Japan 1945. throw a nuke at it if you have to... this stratgic crap works for about 1 minute, So if you really want to win the war for good... you have to do it right. They want to do that to us----and if we wait long enough-----9.11 will happen 20 times greater. if your mind is on 9/10 thinking, this will happen... if you are on 9/12 thinking... we might have a chance.




Rick

[Arkansas]

Interesting, whacko article...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250281,00.html


later~

[Behshad]

you all know where i stand on this... bomb the ***** out of the region to make em surrender. IE Germany 1945, Japan 1945. throw a nuke at it if you have to... this stratgic crap works for about 1 minute, So if you really want to win the war for good... you have to do it right. They want to do that to us----and if we wait long enough-----9.11 will happen 20 times greater. if your mind is on 9/10 thinking, this will happen... if you are on 9/12 thinking... we might have a chance.




Rick

With all respect, get real!!
There's more than 1 country involved in the region you want us to nuke . We cant just go and nuke every single country in the region. And if you think its as simple as it sounds and we are entitled to just nuke anyone that MIGHT be a threat to us, can you imagine the chaos we could cause?
You have to use common sense when you're making such important decisions...

[DerriD]

Keeping politics out of it, I guess the bottom line is you need to look at why Muslims act as they do. I am no expert in the field, but I've heard enough people who all echo the same statement...Muslims look at nations as fitting one of three categories. 1. Muslim countries. 2. Friendly non-Muslim countries that will eventually become Muslim countries. 3. Non-friendly Muslim countries that through Jihad will become Muslim countries. But the end result is the same, a one world religion. If you look at the Muslim countries, they immediately repress all other religions and allow NO freedom of speech or many freedoms of any kind. If you are a guy, it's not quite as bad as if you're a woman in those countries. Many people find the thought of fighting against the spread of radical Islam distasteful, mainly because we allow religous freedom here. Europeans hold those freedoms dear as well. But look at what happened in France recently because the schools were not letting the Muslim girls wear traditional headwear. Go look at Italy, where they predict that within 20-30 years, Italians will become a minority to Muslim immigrants. Once they become a majority, they can merely vote themselves into power and take over the country 'peacefully'. I don't pretend to have the answers, but it does seem very likely that perhaps within our lifetimes we will have to make some more difficult choices about how exactly to keep this a free country.

DerriD, Youre somewhat right,,, but the part where you said "Keepin politics out of it" is what you really cant do in the cases of most islamic nations.Mixture of Politics and Religion is the MAIN reason of all and every problem originating from the middle east.


You see , anytime you mix religion with politics it equals to disaster. The average muslim guy that uses Islam as the sole purpose of religion for personal reason, is harmless. Once given the opportunity to use their beliefs ( or any beliefs for that matter) combined with political power to rule (whether its a handful of people or an entire nation), then we face extreme danger.
As I've said it before elsewhere , if we would give our political powers in US to Mormons or Jehova's Witness', the result would be as bad as the Jihadist muslims, if not worse.

I was meaning keeping OUR politics out of it. Sorry that I wasn't more clear on that. You're right, in the Islamic world there is no seperation of church and state. There is a marriage of church and state. Their laws are dictated by the Koran and EVERYONE must follow those laws. When watching the reaction to 9/11 I saw that there were three types of Muslims. 1. The radicals-Those are the ones who actually suicide bomb malls and take down Jetliners or crash them into buildings. 2. The average Muslim-They won't start a riot themselves, but if one gets going, they'll join in. 3. The Peaceful Muslim-They won't start a riot, they won't join in a riot. But if a riot breaks out, they may say something to the effect of "If they hadn't turned their backs on Allah, they wouldn't have been lynched. Remember the 'apologies' after 9/11. Every time the mainstream media asked a leader of Islam to condemn the attacks, they'd do it with conditions attached. Like, "if it ACTUALLY WAS muslims that did it." That type of thing. It is that very reaction by the peaceful types that makes me think someday you'll have to choose to fight them or join them.

[Behshad]

Keeping politics out of it, I guess the bottom line is you need to look at why Muslims act as they do. I am no expert in the field, but I've heard enough people who all echo the same statement...Muslims look at nations as fitting one of three categories. 1. Muslim countries. 2. Friendly non-Muslim countries that will eventually become Muslim countries. 3. Non-friendly Muslim countries that through Jihad will become Muslim countries. But the end result is the same, a one world religion. If you look at the Muslim countries, they immediately repress all other religions and allow NO freedom of speech or many freedoms of any kind. If you are a guy, it's not quite as bad as if you're a woman in those countries. Many people find the thought of fighting against the spread of radical Islam distasteful, mainly because we allow religous freedom here. Europeans hold those freedoms dear as well. But look at what happened in France recently because the schools were not letting the Muslim girls wear traditional headwear. Go look at Italy, where they predict that within 20-30 years, Italians will become a minority to Muslim immigrants. Once they become a majority, they can merely vote themselves into power and take over the country 'peacefully'. I don't pretend to have the answers, but it does seem very likely that perhaps within our lifetimes we will have to make some more difficult choices about how exactly to keep this a free country.

DerriD, Youre somewhat right,,, but the part where you said "Keepin politics out of it" is what you really cant do in the cases of most islamic nations.Mixture of Politics and Religion is the MAIN reason of all and every problem originating from the middle east.


You see , anytime you mix religion with politics it equals to disaster. The average muslim guy that uses Islam as the sole purpose of religion for personal reason, is harmless. Once given the opportunity to use their beliefs ( or any beliefs for that matter) combined with political power to rule (whether its a handful of people or an entire nation), then we face extreme danger.
As I've said it before elsewhere , if we would give our political powers in US to Mormons or Jehova's Witness', the result would be as bad as the Jihadist muslims, if not worse.

I was meaning keeping OUR politics out of it. Sorry that I wasn't more clear on that. You're right, in the Islamic world there is no seperation of church and state. There is a marriage of church and state. Their laws are dictated by the Koran and EVERYONE must follow those laws. When watching the reaction to 9/11 I saw that there were three types of Muslims. 1. The radicals-Those are the ones who actually suicide bomb malls and take down Jetliners or crash them into buildings. 2. The average Muslim-They won't start a riot themselves, but if one gets going, they'll join in. 3. The Peaceful Muslim-They won't start a riot, they won't join in a riot. But if a riot breaks out, they may say something to the effect of "If they hadn't turned their backs on Allah, they wouldn't have been lynched. Remember the 'apologies' after 9/11. Every time the mainstream media asked a leader of Islam to condemn the attacks, they'd do it with conditions attached. Like, "if it ACTUALLY WAS muslims that did it." That type of thing. It is that very reaction by the peaceful types that makes me think someday you'll have to choose to fight them or join them.

Totally agree! You know whats goin' on,, sorry for the extra "lecture".
Let me just add that, some nations have managed to remain peaceful and somewhat openminded. 2 examples that comes to mind are Egypt and Indonesia(largest muslim population in the world). So it CAN be done,, its just matter of finding a way to get through.
In Iraq's case, the main problem is that we're tryin to force freedom to people that arent used to freedom.
Democracy must be born within the nation and blossom its way to reach people, it cant be forced on them.

[strangegrey]

We cant just go and nuke every single country in the region.

And why the hell not? Seems like a perfectly viable solution to me...

[Behshad]

We cant just go and nuke every single country in the region.

And why the hell not? Seems like a perfectly viable solution to me...

How the fuck is that a fuckin soloution!? Enough with stupid posts!! its because of idiots who dont think before they act that we are in the mess we are now! If killing inncoent people is OK, then why are we mad at them in the first place!?

[Lula]

We cant just go and nuke every single country in the region.

And why the hell not? Seems like a perfectly viable solution to me...

This is a terribly simple minded thought. Just nuke 'em? God help us with people like this electing our officials.

[conversationpc]

First off, I don't consider myself a "Bush folk" or even a real Republican, for that matter. I have huge problems with some of Bush's policies, how his adminstration has handled the war in Iraq, and many of his domestic policies also. I do consider myself a conservative, though, and wish there was a viable third party. I like some Libertarian candidates but really disagree with them too much to consider joining their party. Anyway...

There should be another option..."I have no idea".

Seriously, I have no idea how this one will be solved. Some are postulating that VP Cheney's recent trip to Saudi Arabia convinced the government there to not allow the price of oil to be raised, which in turn hurts the economies of both Iran and Columbia, both of whom lose tremendous amounts of money because of this. I have no idea if this is true or not and I'm skeptical since I don't believe the Saudis are any friend of the U.S. However, the Iranian economy is in pretty bad shape and Hugo Chavez's government in Venezuela loses tons of money if the oil prices remain below $60 a barrel.

On the other hand, Iran is possibly behind a lot of the violence in Iraq and Iranian military agents operating in Iraq have actually attacked U.S. forces at least a couple of times recently.

Personally, I would prefer to see Iran's economy come crashing down, however this may also make them more dangerous. If they fear their economy may collapse, it could force their hand as far as major military action is concerned.

[Scarab Pilot]

Personally, I would prefer to see Iran's economy come crashing down, however this may also make them more dangerous. If they fear their economy may collapse, it could force their hand as far as major military action is concerned.

Good point.

[Behshad]

Personally, I would prefer to see Iran's economy come crashing down, however this may also make them more dangerous. If they fear their economy may collapse, it could force their hand as far as major military action is concerned.

[/quote]

Now there's a good point made. Best way to reach that goal is heavy sanctions.

[jrnychick]

I must agree with those who have said that the radical muslims who have committed/planned terrorist attacks in the US and to US interests hate America because it's not a muslim state. They hate our way of life, and they will continue to plot against us unless we become a muslim state. Their goal is to destroy us. Any muslim living in the United States who is not plotting with them is also considered an infidel. It doesn't matter who is president.

I strongly suggest that people read the 911 Commission Report. I will admit that I haven't read it all yet. I'm really struggling with it. I bought the book shortly after it was released to the public. I felt a sense of duty to read it. It sat in my house until last summer without being picked up, because I just wasn't ready. I started reading it last summer, thinking that nearly 5 years would be enough time. It wasn't. I got that same punched-in-the-stomach feeling I had on 9/11. I keep going back to it, reading little bits at a time. The information contained in that book is just unbelievable. If you've gone back to that place of feeling comfortable and untouchable, this book brings 9/11 right back into focus.

I believe that going to war with Iran would be a HUGE mistake. I fully supported the war in Iraq when it began. We must give diplomacy a shot, and we have to wrap up our involvement in Iraq. I think that if we went to war with Iran, North Korea would take the opportunity to come knockin' on our door. That's a guest we can't handle.

I agree with Beshad that we shouldn't be nuking countries and wiping out populations at will. That's not who we are as a country. We're supposed to respect people throughout the world who want to live peaceful, productive lives.

[DerriD]

Ask yourself this, "Which type of country is more likely to go to war? One that is prosperous, or one that is deeply troubled?" I gotta go with the second type, they have less to lose. It is precisely that reason that Hitler was able to rise to power. Tell your people how great they are, tell them that someone else is responsible, tell them by eliminating those responsible you get back on top.

[jrnychick]

Ask yourself this, "Which type of country is more likely to go to war? One that is prosperous, or one that is deeply troubled?" I gotta go with the second type, they have less to lose. It is precisely that reason that Hitler was able to rise to power. Tell your people how great they are, tell them that someone else is responsible, tell them by eliminating those responsible you get back on top.

I agree with you completely, DerriD. 10 years ago, I went to the holocaust memorial at Dachau. If you can look beyond the horror of the holocaust, you can see how brilliant Hitler really was (in a completely insane, horrific way). The camp at Dachau was not that big. Hundreds of people were kept there at a time. I wondered why those people couldn't rise up and overtake that camp. Those poor people had everything taken from them. Everything possible was done to make the survivors feel lost and weak. If they ran, there was nowhere to go. As Hitler built up the "master race," he tore down the group he blamed for all of the problems in Germany. The people fell for it and followed him blindly.

On a side note, another thing I found really interesting was what happened when trying to get to the camp at Dachau. My husband and I got off the train in Dachau, thinking that there would be some signs guiding us to the camp, or a taxi driver who would take us there. At the time, there was NOTHING. We asked people walking down the street how to get there, and no one would help us. They acted as if they didn't know where it was. We finally found out from another tourist that we should get on a bus that took us there. The bus was not marked in any way that would let us know where it was going. It was like people did not want to admit the memorial was there. My mom (who is English and survived nightly air raids by the Germans for much of the first 6 years of her life) went to Dachau to visit a German friend in the late '50s. She asked her friend to take her to the camp, and her friend denied that it even existed. Since my mom didn't get any help, she went off on a bike and found it herself. This was when it was just an abandoned concentration camp. She said that one of the first things she did when she got there was throw up.

[conversationpc]

Ask yourself this, "Which type of country is more likely to go to war? One that is prosperous, or one that is deeply troubled?" I gotta go with the second type, they have less to lose. It is precisely that reason that Hitler was able to rise to power. Tell your people how great they are, tell them that someone else is responsible, tell them by eliminating those responsible you get back on top.

The parallels between current day Iran and Germany in the 30s are really starting to get scary. It's almost as if they are reading a Nazi playbook.

I must agree with those who have said that the radical muslims who have committed/planned terrorist attacks in the US and to US interests hate America because it's not a muslim state. They hate our way of life, and they will continue to plot against us unless we become a muslim state. Their goal is to destroy us. Any muslim living in the United States who is not plotting with them is also considered an infidel. It doesn't matter who is president.

This is correct, in my opinion. There are many who say that they are just upset with us because of our policies in the Middle East but that's a very small fraction of their anger, in my opinion. In radical Islam, they have hatred for people who are not Muslims, period. For that matter, they hate anyone who is not also a radical Muslim, which is why they had no problem with the fact that even their own "brothers" were killed in the 9/11 attacks. They hate us mostly because of that AND because of our freedom. Their idea of freedom and our idea of freedom are totally different. They believe they are already free living under some of the oppressive regimes that some Muslim nations are governed by. The goal of the radical Muslim is to enforce Sharia law upon all free countries. This basically means being governed by the Qur'an as they interpret it. This would mean the loss of most of the freedoms that we currently have. They interpret our freedoms as an affront to Allah, which is why they hate us for our freedom. They don't believe in freedom speech. They don't believe in freedom of religion. They don't believe in equal rights for women. They believe only in the "freedom" of worshipping Allah and doing only what Mohammed has written is lawful for them to do.

[Behshad]

Ask yourself this, "Which type of country is more likely to go to war? One that is prosperous, or one that is deeply troubled?" I gotta go with the second type, they have less to lose. It is precisely that reason that Hitler was able to rise to power. Tell your people how great they are, tell them that someone else is responsible, tell them by eliminating those responsible you get back on top.

The parallels between current day Iran and Germany in the 30s are really starting to get scary. It's almost as if they are reading a Nazi playbook.

I must agree with those who have said that the radical muslims who have committed/planned terrorist attacks in the US and to US interests hate America because it's not a muslim state. They hate our way of life, and they will continue to plot against us unless we become a muslim state. Their goal is to destroy us. Any muslim living in the United States who is not plotting with them is also considered an infidel. It doesn't matter who is president.

This is correct, in my opinion. There are many who say that they are just upset with us because of our policies in the Middle East but that's a very small fraction of their anger, in my opinion. In radical Islam, they have hatred for people who are not Muslims, period. For that matter, they hate anyone who is not also a radical Muslim, which is why they had no problem with the fact that even their own "brothers" were killed in the 9/11 attacks. They hate us mostly because of that AND because of our freedom. Their idea of freedom and our idea of freedom are totally different. They believe they are already free living under some of the oppressive regimes that some Muslim nations are governed by. The goal of the radical Muslim is to enforce Sharia law upon all free countries. This basically means being governed by the Qur'an as they interpret it. This would mean the loss of most of the freedoms that we currently have. They interpret our freedoms as an affront to Allah, which is why they hate us for our freedom. They don't believe in freedom speech. They don't believe in freedom of religion. They don't believe in equal rights for women. They believe only in the "freedom" of worshipping Allah and doing only what Mohammed has written is lawful for them to do.

but now were back to the same discussion as we were before,,,,, the average joe in Iran does not hate americans or their way of their livings,,, its those in power that do.... same goes for every country in the region....... those who hate americans are the narrowminded people who use Islam as a weapon againt west. A true muslim doesnt belive in hating,, just like most religion, Islam has nothing to do with the way these goverments represent it. Islam/Koran never says that blowing up a building will get you to heaven,,,,, These idiots use Islam to justify their actions that are not even approved by their own religion. They think they will get to heaven for killing innocent, but what they will see when they get there is a nice little seat right next to Hitler with a pineapple up his arse!