All You Conservative Bush Folk

[Behshad]

I guess its pretty clear that we have many different opinions on this, which luckily we're all entitled to.
Also I think Dean got his answer to this poll he posted. The majority dont want yet another war ( I still wonder who the 2 were who chose option 3)
Guess we should all just learn how to get along, enjoy the great music that unites us all, yes even you scarab, and let the damn politicians decide whats gonna happen to our childrens future....

[Rockindeano]

I love you guys.

[ohsherrie]

I love you guys.

Luv ya too Deano. I'll be your chief advisor when you're elected.

[brywool]

Once again the world is a happy laughy silly rainbows and unicorns.
"Random acts of kindness"
That's some funny shit...

[Scarab Pilot]

What did I miss?

Kum-by-ya my lord.....

[ohsherrie]

Religion has been the excuse for war since the beginning of organized religion. It's just another name for power. Religion is the ultimate power over the minds of humanity. The root of the reason for all wars has nothing to do with any deity, even though most of them are fought in the name of religion. It's about power and money. Religion has no more to do with the true motive behind war than being the justification that the majority of the people on either side will identify with, rally behind and die for.

[brywool]

Religion has been the excuse for war since the beginning of organized religion. It's just another name for power. Religion is the ultimate power over the minds of humanity. The root of the reason for all wars has nothing to do with any deity, even though most of them are fought in the name of religion. It's about power and money. Religion has no more to do with the true motive behind war than being the justification that the majority of the people on either side will identify with, rally behind and die for.

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Though Shalt Not Kill... unless there's money or land in it for ya!

[Matthew]

If we do it right...sure we can...circa Nazi Germany 1944-45...massive bombing of the infrastructure and populace until the surrender.

I'm not doubting that the US has the hardware to crush the infrastructure and the populace of Iran. But you have to question Amerca's ability to stabilize the country after that and bring about a liberal democracy. Yes, America pulled this off in the Second World War - but the track record of 'interventions' since then has largely been disastrous - and it will be impossible to reshape the culture of Iran in America's image.

Now that would win Iran...but would open up a whole other can...or cans even...of worms.

Yes - it would lead to chaos and would radicalize the region still further. Look at Iraq - most of the 150,000 civilians who have been killed in Iraq died from terrorist acts - and in the Middle east overall resentment toward America is at an all-time high.

Everyone wants a nice clean little war, ala Iraq and Desert Shield/Storm (Which I participated in BTW) and they tend to forget that GREAT changes to the world require great sacrafice...except the radical Islamo-facists types...they are more than willing to do so...the liberals better wake up too...if these people win the first people going under the sword are the "Perveyors of filth, pederasty, and homosexuality..." so Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen D, and most of your Democratic organizations will be the first to go.

Isn't it a bit paranoid to believe that "Islamo-fascists" will ever take over America and govern it?

Let's not lose perspective here. America has been attacked only once in it's history...by a small group of students living in Hamburg. Yes, there is the continued threat from other terrorist cells - I'm sure - but it's all to easy to over-estimate the enemy and to needlessly live in fear of the entire Muslim world.

[Matthew]

One thing to keep in mind with the whole Iraq situation is that one reason Bush may have done this is to have a military presence in Iraq as a means of counter-balancing Iran as the major threat in the Middle East. This is something I've heard a couple of commentators talking about and, the more I hear about it, the more I see it as a real possibility.

If that's so it isn't working.... Iran now has much more power and influence in Iraq than it did during the Saddam Hussein era.

America armed Saddam Hussein in the 1980s to counter-balance Iran but during Bush's time in office the Iranians have finally gained an advantage in Iraq. Under Hussein the Sunni Muslims were by far the most dominnt group - whereas now the Shias are in the ascendent and this has led to civil war.

Yes, America now has a presence in a neighbouring country to Iran - but I can't quote see how it's counter-balancing the Iranian threat more than Saddam Hussein did.

[conversationpc]

I could give a shit about offending a Christian. Everything's offensive to a Christian. When was the last time Christian's blew up anything? Abortion Clinics, How about Catholic Priests and little boys, then their church hiding them and paying their lawyer fees?
Yeah, I've offended Christians here before, so what? When it's that we're talking about killing muslims, everything's A.O.K. with Joe Redneck, but point the same finger at Christians and they all freak out.
Hitler was a christian.

I'm not saying all Christians. I'm saying fundamentalist Christians, Fundamentalist (any religion here) is trouble.

Hitler was not a Christian. That's got to be the most uninformed, moronic post I've ever read on this forum. If Hitler was into anything, it was the occult. The swastika itself is rooted in Hinduism and Buddhism and was co-opted by the Nazis as their own occultic symbol. Hitler may have borrowed aspects of Christianity to form his own deluded religion but he was no more a Christian than any other megalomaniacal murdering dictator.

[Scarab Pilot]

Isn't it a bit paranoid to believe that "Islamo-fascists" will ever take over America and govern it?

Agreed. If push came to shove, Americans would once again drop their political alliances and remember we are one country and fight them to the end.

BUT, Islamic takeover doesn't have to be one of violence. They are working very hard to be allowed to use Sharia Law in matters that deal with the Islamic community. The goal is to little by little use our Political Correctness to wear us down and slowly add Sharia in addition to American Laws. Canada has allowed this to happen a one of its providences. Watch the news in Britian - they are working on it there.

Look into muslim groups like CAIR. CAIR is an organization known to support terrorists. Also check out what is going on in Dearborn, MI. There is a large Shite and Sunni population that is starting to turn on each other - right here at home.

Its not necessarily going to be a battle in the streets but in our courts, government, neighborhoods and homes.

Let's not lose perspective here. America has been attacked only once in it's history...by a small group of students living in Hamburg. Yes, there is the continued threat from other terrorist cells - I'm sure - but it's all to easy to over-estimate the enemy and to needlessly live in fear of the entire Muslim world.

Actually, we've been attacked twice. Pearl Harbor and 9/11. And it will happen again - just look at our wide open southern border.

[brywool]

I could give a shit about offending a Christian. Everything's offensive to a Christian. When was the last time Christian's blew up anything? Abortion Clinics, How about Catholic Priests and little boys, then their church hiding them and paying their lawyer fees?
Yeah, I've offended Christians here before, so what? When it's that we're talking about killing muslims, everything's A.O.K. with Joe Redneck, but point the same finger at Christians and they all freak out.
Hitler was a christian.

I'm not saying all Christians. I'm saying fundamentalist Christians, Fundamentalist (any religion here) is trouble.

Hitler was not a Christian. That's got to be the most uninformed, moronic post I've ever read on this forum. If Hitler was into anything, it was the occult. The swastika itself is rooted in Hinduism and Buddhism and was co-opted by the Nazis as their own occultic symbol. Hitler may have borrowed aspects of Christianity to form his own deluded religion but he was no more a Christian than any other megalomaniacal murdering dictator.

Wrong. It's a documented fact. Hitler was a Christian or rather, thought of himself as a Christian.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter," said Hitler, in one 1922 speech.
The guy was obviously a nutter of the highest order, but he believed he was doing being guided by God. Doesn't make it right, but it's well documented.

[ohsherrie]

BUT, Islamic takeover doesn't have to be one of violence. They are working very hard to be allowed to use Sharia Law in matters that deal with the Islamic community. The goal is to little by little use our Political Correctness to wear us down and slowly add Sharia in addition to American Laws. Canada has allowed this to happen a one of its providences. Watch the news in Britian - they are working on it there.

Look into muslim groups like CAIR. CAIR is an organization known to support terrorists. Also check out what is going on in Dearborn, MI. There is a large Shite and Sunni population that is starting to turn on each other - right here at home.

Its not necessarily going to be a battle in the streets but in our courts, government, neighborhoods and homes.

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

[Scarab Pilot]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

[Behshad]

BUT, Islamic takeover doesn't have to be one of violence. They are working very hard to be allowed to use Sharia Law in matters that deal with the Islamic community. The goal is to little by little use our Political Correctness to wear us down and slowly add Sharia in addition to American Laws. Canada has allowed this to happen a one of its providences. Watch the news in Britian - they are working on it there.

Look into muslim groups like CAIR. CAIR is an organization known to support terrorists. Also check out what is going on in Dearborn, MI. There is a large Shite and Sunni population that is starting to turn on each other - right here at home.

Its not necessarily going to be a battle in the streets but in our courts, government, neighborhoods and homes.

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Sorry but thats

Are you 2 suggesting that they're brainwashing us!? Give me a break! When was the last time you had 2 muslims knockin on your door asking to come in and tell you about Allah!?
Sorry Sherri I usually agree with you, but on this one I think you got a bit too much carried away by the scarab's brainwashing policy

[conversationpc]

Wrong. It's a documented fact. Hitler was a Christian or rather, thought of himself as a Christian.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter," said Hitler, in one 1922 speech.
The guy was obviously a nutter of the highest order, but he believed he was doing being guided by God. Doesn't make it right, but it's well documented.

No, not wrong. Saying you're a Christian doesn't make you one any more than me saying "I'm a rocket scientist" actually makes me a rocket scientist. I may know something ABOUT rocket science but I'm not a rocket scientist.

[Behshad]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

[Scarab Pilot]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

Prove I am lying.

Are you Islamic?

[Behshad]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

Prove I am lying.

Are you Islamic?

Im not Islamic,, however I have read the Koran just as I have read the Bible.
How can I prove you to be wrong!? You want me to post every word of the Koran here?
Isnt it easier if you just show me the one part where it says "Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world" .
Its very clear that you just throw out meaningless words out there now without any knowledge about what youre talkin about,,, first in politics and now in religion.

[Wally_Hatchet]

1. Monica, Kathleen Wiley, etc.
2. Hillary
3. Failure to treat the first Trade Center bombing as a terrorist attack.
4. Failure to respond on the attacks on the Khobar Towers
5. Failure to respond to terrorists in Somalia (Black Hawk Down)
6. Failure to respond to the attack on the USS Cole
7. Failure to treat terrorist attacks as attacks rather than simple crimes.
8. Failure to take Bin Lauden from the Saudis when they had him
9. Stripped down the FBI & CIA. Put in place rules separating the cooperation between the two agencies
10. Allowed our military to be placed under control of the UN in Bosnia. Oh yeah - we're still in Bosnia aren't we?

Shall I continue?

Youre Number 1 and 2 are his personal life. What a president does in his private life in none of your business.

Sorry, but when he lied to America, and purjured himself, he commited a crime. At this point it was no longer his personal life and it became every American's "business".

He accused an American citizen of being a liar (Monica), when it was in fact himself who was proven to be the liar, and he would have continued the lie if not for a stained blue dress.

[Behshad]

Sorry, but when he lied to America, and purjured himself, he commited a crime. At this point it was no longer his personal life and it became every American's "business".

He accused an American citizen of being a liar (Monica), when it was in fact himself who was proven to be the liar, and he would have continued the lie if not for a stained blue dress.

You think he is the first President who had an affair? He just happend to be the first one 2 get caught.
You wanna talk about lying presidents, they all have lied at some points to us. You tellin me that Bush has been 100% honest with us!?
and do you think Clintons lie about screwin Monica cost us as much money and human lives as Bush's lies have the past 6 years!?

[jrnychick]

BUT, Islamic takeover doesn't have to be one of violence. They are working very hard to be allowed to use Sharia Law in matters that deal with the Islamic community. The goal is to little by little use our Political Correctness to wear us down and slowly add Sharia in addition to American Laws. Canada has allowed this to happen a one of its providences. Watch the news in Britian - they are working on it there.

Look into muslim groups like CAIR. CAIR is an organization known to support terrorists. Also check out what is going on in Dearborn, MI. There is a large Shite and Sunni population that is starting to turn on each other - right here at home.

Its not necessarily going to be a battle in the streets but in our courts, government, neighborhoods and homes.

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Sorry but thats

Are you 2 suggesting that they're brainwashing us!? Give me a break! When was the last time you had 2 muslims knockin on your door asking to come in and tell you about Allah!?
Sorry Sherri I usually agree with you, but on this one I think you got a bit too much carried away by the scarab's brainwashing policy

I think I understand Sherri's poing here. The extremists ONLY are working towards a gradual change in laws and sentiment in this country. This is not the case with the vast majority of muslims in this country. Most are everyday people who want to practice their religion as it was intended--peacefully. All religious groups have their extremists, and they all work to influence government and policies in this country.

I don't agree with Sherri's comment about Bush's ego. I'll go back to what I said yesterday. The president doesn't matter one iota when it comes to terrorism. Democrat, Republican, Independent; they hate us all. The jihad against us will continue until the end of time unless we become an extremist muslim state.

[Scarab Pilot]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

Prove I am lying.

Are you Islamic?

Im not Islamic,, however I have read the Koran just as I have read the Bible.
How can I prove you to be wrong!? You want me to post every word of the Koran here?
Isnt it easier if you just show me the one part where it says "Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world" .
Its very clear that you just throw out meaningless words out there now without any knowledge about what youre talkin about,,, first in politics and now in religion.

If you have already decided that everything I say is a lie, then there is no point in discussing this further.

[Behshad]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

Prove I am lying.

Are you Islamic?

Im not Islamic,, however I have read the Koran just as I have read the Bible.
How can I prove you to be wrong!? You want me to post every word of the Koran here?
Isnt it easier if you just show me the one part where it says "Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world" .
Its very clear that you just throw out meaningless words out there now without any knowledge about what youre talkin about,,, first in politics and now in religion.

If you have already decided that everything I say is a lie, then there is no point in discussing this further.

No one decides whether someone is lying or not. You have shown that your post have no solid ground and no valid sources.
Also you have said twice now that you dont think its worth it to discuss with me/us, yet you come back for more.
I didnt decide if you were telling lies. You said things without any knowledge and now that you cant prove what you said were not lies, you get all emotional and teary eyed.

One question,,,,, you said " It feels like 1938"... Out of curiousity, may I ask about the year you were born!?

Thanks

[ohsherrie]

Sorry but thats

Are you 2 suggesting that they're brainwashing us!? Give me a break! When was the last time you had 2 muslims knockin on your door asking to come in and tell you about Allah!?
Sorry Sherri I usually agree with you, but on this one I think you got a bit too much carried away by the scarab's brainwashing policy

No Behshad, I'm not suggesting that we're being brainwashed at all. I'm just saying that if our secular way of life is going to be threatened by the Muslim doctrine it isn't going to happen through physical attack from abroad. It's going to happen through terrorist cells in this country that are being funded by people who are embedded within the Islamic communities in this country. I'm not suggesting that all Muslims are part of this, just that there are people within those communities that are and our Politically Correctness is helping protect them.

The attack on 9/11 should have been dealt with in Afghanistan and Pakistan by getting Bin Laden and his inner circle of henchmen and ousting Taliban completely and for good. That would have gotten rid of the symbol of terror and sent a strong decisive message that we won't be messed with.

The debacle in Iraq just created more terrorism in that country and is making this country look absurd. In the mean time the Taliban is regaining strength in Afghanistan and Bin Laden is being protected within an area of Pakistan.

[Scarab Pilot]

Bingo!!

They're not going to invade our shores with guns blazing. There will most likely be more horrific random attacks by radical Islamic extremists, but they're not going to take over our society like that and they know it. While we're focused on chasing down the extremists and policing the total state of havoc that Bush's ego created, the real threat to our secular way of life is quietly making headway from within our country.

Bush did not create these folks. How much time have you spent researching any of these statements you've made? Are they based of what you read in the paper and on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC?

They want to rule the world under the banner of Islam. Every country, every person either converted, enslaved or killed. You need to look outside the main stream media outlets to get the whole picture.

I don't mean to be insulting but inorder to get the full scope of what is going on we have to take off the 'Bush Blinders' and see what is really going on.

I have read the Koran. I have read commentaries on the Koran by people who are former Muslims. It is not about oil, land, crusades or egos. Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world.

Jeesh, it does feel like its 1938 again.

Another crappy post from you again, without any proof,
If you have read the Koran, please remind me of the part where it says all the crap you just stated above.

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

Prove I am lying.

Are you Islamic?

Im not Islamic,, however I have read the Koran just as I have read the Bible.
How can I prove you to be wrong!? You want me to post every word of the Koran here?
Isnt it easier if you just show me the one part where it says "Its about a rise of an Islamic state that looks to dominate the world" .
Its very clear that you just throw out meaningless words out there now without any knowledge about what youre talkin about,,, first in politics and now in religion.

If you have already decided that everything I say is a lie, then there is no point in discussing this further.

No one decides whether someone is lying or not. You have shown that your post have no solid ground and no valid sources.
Also you have said twice now that you dont think its worth it to discuss with me/us, yet you come back for more.
I didnt decide if you were telling lies. You said things without any knowledge and now that you cant prove what you said were not lies, you get all emotional and teary eyed.

One question,,,,, you said " It feels like 1938"... Out of curiousity, may I ask about the year you were born!?

Thanks

YOU SAID....

If youre a true Christian like you say you are, shouldnt you refrain from any and all LIES you been posting the past 24 hours!?

That is calling me a liar.

I am not teary eyed, I simply made the mistake of continuing a discussion with someone who is here to simply cause problems and not discuss anything rationally. I've been making plenty of points and backing them up.

You have been simply refuting them as if you are in the know without providing anything to refute those comments.

It is a waste of my time to continue this with you. You can call me whatever you want and make fun of me - thats your choice.

[Scarab Pilot]

No Behshad, I'm not suggesting that we're being brainwashed at all. I'm just saying that if our secular way of life is going to be threatened by the Muslim doctrine it isn't going to happen through physical attack from abroad. It's going to happen through terrorist cells in this country that are being funded by people who are embedded within the Islamic communities in this country. I'm not suggesting that all Muslims are part of this, just that there are people within those communities that are and our Politically Correctness is helping protect them.

The attack on 9/11 should have been dealt with in Afghanistan and Pakistan by getting Bin Laden and his inner circle of henchmen and ousting Taliban completely and for good. That would have gotten rid of the symbol of terror and sent a strong decisive message that we won't be messed with.

The debacle in Iraq just created more terrorism in that country and is making this country look absurd. In the mean time the Taliban is regaining strength in Afghanistan and Bin Laden is being protected within an area of Pakistan.

I agree with you here. These are great points.

[Behshad]

I did call you a liar, because you did lie,,, its very simple .
Im not calling you names , neither am I making fun of you.
Im actually feeling bad that you had to get your feelings hurt because you made a statement which you couldnt stand behind with proof.

And how do you figure that I am here to cause problems. I speak my mind just like you do. Do you have more rights because you are a so called Christian!? Is is causing problem cause YOU dont agree with what I say!?


You also keep saying your not Bush's boy, but you are,,, You have made it clear that you are a diehard Bush fan and thats fine with me,, but at least if he's the guy you belive in as your leader, shouldnt you be proud of him instead of being as ashamed as you are and denying him!?
I may not be as active as you are when it comes to religion, but whatever my beliefs are I strongly stay behind them and take pride in my beliefs.

(How can someone say "It feels like 1938", when they werent even around then!? )
Have a nice day

[brywool]

Wrong. It's a documented fact. Hitler was a Christian or rather, thought of himself as a Christian.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter," said Hitler, in one 1922 speech.
The guy was obviously a nutter of the highest order, but he believed he was doing being guided by God. Doesn't make it right, but it's well documented.

No, not wrong. Saying you're a Christian doesn't make you one any more than me saying "I'm a rocket scientist" actually makes me a rocket scientist. I may know something ABOUT rocket science but I'm not a rocket scientist.

Ehh, I dunno. That's a good point. If a guy believes in the Christian doctrine but interprets it incorrectly (or maniacally in this case) does that make him NOT a Christian? (or Buddhist or Muslim or whatever?). Not sure. If that's the case, then a lot of religious folks might not be what they think they are because they're interpretting things incorrectly...
Bush says he's a Christian, yet he's at war with another country, bombing and killing people (not saying he's a murderer, it's just to illustrate a point). If he's doing what he thinks is right and is being guided by his religion, yet totally going against it (thou shallt not kill), then what's the difference him proclaiming his Christianity or Hitler? I'M NOT COMPARING HIM TO HITLER, I'm trying to ask the question about the religious aspect. Using Hitler as an example.

[Soulful Rocker CoCo]

Heres a few good ones.... laugh it up fur ball




.. And what Mr/ Bush Does BEST... ride-um Doggies...