Transcript of the US 'friendly fire' Video

[Behshad]

Just in case you guys missed this:

Transcript starts:

1336.30 MANILA HOTEL:

POPOV from MANILA HOTEL. Can you confirm you engaged that tube and those vehicles?

1336.36 POPOV35:

Affirm Sir. Looks like I've got multiple vehicles in reverts at about 800 meters to the north of your arty rounds. Can you switch fire, and shift fire, and get some arty rounds on those?

1336.47 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger, I understand that those are the impacts you observed earlier on my timing?

1336.51 POPOV35:

Affirmative.

1336.52 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger, standby. Let me make sure they're not on another mission.

1336.57 POPOV36:

Hey, I got a four ship. Looks like we got orange panels on them though. Do we have any friendlies up in this area?

1337.03 MANILA HOTEL:

I understand that was north 800 metres.

1337.12 MANILA HOTEL:

POPOV, understand that was north 800 metres?

1337.16 POPOV35:

Confirm, north 800 metres. Confirm there are no friendlies this far north on the ground.

1337.21 MANILA HOTEL:

That is an affirm. You are well clear of friendlies.

1337.25 POPOV35:

Copy. I see multiple riveted vehicles. Some look like flatbed trucks and others are green vehicles. Can't quite make out the type. Look like may be ZIL157s (Russian made trucks used by Iraqi army).

1337.36 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger. That matches our Intel up there. And understand you also have the other fixed wing up this push? For terminal control, if you can.

1337.44 POPOV35:

I'd love to. I didn't talk to him yet.

1337.46 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger, I believe CASPER is up this push too. Two Super Tomcats.

1337.54 POPOV35:

Hey dude.

1337.56 POPOV36:

I got a four ship of vehicles that are evenly spaced along a road going north.

1338.04 POPOV36:

Look down at your right, 2 o'clock, at 10 o'clock low, there is a, left 10 o'clock low, look down there north along that canal, right there. Coming up just south of the village.

1338.21 POPOV35:

Evenly spaced? Where we strafed?

1338.23 POPOV36:

No. No. Further east, further west, right now. And there's four or five of them right now heading up there.

1338.29 POPOV35:

No, I don't have you visual.

1338.30 POPOV36:

I'm back at your 6 - no factor.

1338.31 POPOV35:

OK, now where's this canal?

1338.35 POPOV35:

Don't hit those F18s that are out there.

1338.38 POPOV36:

OK. Right underneath you. Right now, there's a canal that runs north/south. There's a small village, and there are vehicles that are spaced evenly there.

1338.49 POPOV36:

They look like they have orange panels on though.

1338.51 POPOV35:

He told me, he told me there's nobody north of here.

1338.52 POPOV36:

I know. There, right on the river.

1338.53 POPOV35:

I see vehicles though, might be our original dudes.

1339.09 POPOV36:

They've got something orange on top of them.

1339.10 POPOV35:

POPOV for MANILA 3, is MANILA 34 in this area?

1339.14 MANILA HOTEL:

Say again?

1339.15 POPOV35:

MANILA HOTEL, is MANILA 34 in this area?

1339.19 MANILA HOTEL:

Negative. Understand they are well clear of that now.

1339.23 POPOV35:

OK, copy. Like I said, multiple riveted vehicles. They look like flatbed trucks. Are those your targets?

1339.30 MANILA HOTEL:

That's affirm.

1339.31 POPOV35:

OK.

1339.34 POPOV36:

Let me ask you one question.

1339.35 POPOV35:

What's that?

1339.45 POPO36:

(to MANILA HOTEL) Hey, tell me what type of rocket launchers you got up here?

1339.50 POPOV36:

I think they're rocket launchers.

1339.52 MANILA HOTEL:

. . . (garbled) You were stepped on, say again.

1339.54 POPOV35:

MANILA HOTEL, fire your arty (artillery) up that 800 metres north, and see how we do.

1340.01 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger, standby for shot. They are getting adjustments to the guns now.

1340.34 POPOV35:

Copy.

1340.09 POPOV36:

Roll up your right wing and look right underneath you.

1340.12 POPOV35:

(angry) I know what you're talking about.

1340.13 POPOV36:

OK, well they got orange rockets on them.

1340.17 POPOV35:

Orange rockets?

1340.17 POPOV36:

Yeah, I think so.

1340.18 POPOV35:

Let me look.

1340.26 POPOV35:

We need to think about getting home.

1340.29 POPOV36:

3.6 is what it says (a fuel measurement).

1340.31 POPOV35:

Yeah, I know. I'm talking time wise.

1340.35 POPOV36:

I think killing these damn rocket launchers, it would be great.

(The tape then becomes garbled)

1340.52 MANILA HOTEL:

Yeah, POPOV36, MANILA HOTEL. I've got other aircraft up this push. Not sure they're coming to me. Someone else might be working this freak.

1341.00 POPOV35:

Yeah, MANILA34 is working them, break, break.

1340.12 POPOV36:

Yeah, I see that, you see I'm going to roll down.

1340.15 MANILA 34:

Break, be advised MANILA34 is not working the F18s unless they are trying to check in with me, over.

1341.21 POPOV35:

Copy.

1341.24 POPOV36:

OK, do you see the orange things on top of them?

1341.32 MANILA HOTEL:

POPOV 36 from MANILA HOTEL. Are you able to switch to Crimson?

1341.37 POPOV36:

POPOV 36 is rolling in.

1341.40 MANILA HOTEL:

Tell you what.

1341.41 POPOV35:

I'm coming off west. You roll in. It looks like they are exactly what we're talking about.

1341.49 POPOV36:

We got visual.

1341.50 POPOV36:

OK. I want to get that first one before he gets into town then.

1341.53 POPOV35:

Get him - get him.

1341.55 POPOV36:

All right, we got rocket launchers, it looks like. Number 2 is rolling in from the south to the north, and 2's in.

1342.04 POPOV35:

Get it.

POPOV36, "rolls in" for an attack and turns his A-10 into a vertical dive to strafe the British column, destroying two Scimitar armored vehicles and killing L/Cpl of Horse Matty Hull.

1342.09 - GUNFIRE -

1342.18 POPOV35:

I'm off your west.

1342.22 POPOV35:

Good hits.

1342.29 POPOV36:

Got a visual.

1342.30 POPOV35:

I got a visual. You're at your high 10.

1342.31 POPOV36:

Gotcha.

1342.30 POPOV36:

That's what you think they are, right?

1342.39 POPOV35:

It looks like it to me, and I got my goggles on them now.

1342.59 POPOV35:

OK, I'm looking at getting down low at this.

1343.13 MANILA HOTEL:

POPOV 36 from MANILA HOTEL, guns . . .

1343.17 MANILA HOTEL:

To engage those targets in the revetts (slopes).

1343.24 POPOV36:

It looks like he is hauling ass. Ha ha. Is that what you think they are?

1343.34 POPOV36:

1-2

1343.35 POPOV35:

It doesn't look friendly.

1343.38 POPOV36:

OK, I'm in again from the south.

1343.40 POPOV35:

Ok.

1343.47 - GUNFIRE -

1343.54 LIGHTNING 34:

POPOV 34, LIGHTNING 34.

1344.09 POPOV35:

POPOV 35, LIGHTNING 34 GO.

1344.12 LIGHTNING 34:

Roger, POPOV. Be advised that in the 3122 and 3222 group box you have friendly armor in the area. Yellow, small armored tanks. Just be advised.

1344.16 POPOV35:

Ahh s***.

1344.19 P0POV35:

Got a - got a smoke.

1344.21 LIGHTNING 34:

Hey, POPOV34, abort your mission. You got a, looks we might have a blue on blue situation.

1344.25 POPOV35:

F***. God bless it.

1344.29 POPOV35:

POPOV 34.

1344.35 POPOV35:

F***, f***, f***.

1344.36 MANILA 34:

POPOV34, this is MANILA 34. Did you copy my last, over?

1344.39 POPOV35:

I did.

1344.47 POPOV35:

Confirm those are friendlies on that side of the canal.

1344.51 POPOV35:

S***.

1344.58 MANILA 34:

Standby POPOV.

1345.04 POPOV36:

God dammit.

1344.14 MANILA HOTEL:

Hey POPOV 36, from MANILA HOTEL.

1344.25 MANILA 34:

OK POPOV. Just west of the 3-4 easting. On the berm up there, the 3422 area is where we have our friendlies, over.

1344.39 POPOV35:

All right, POPOV 35 has smoke. Let me know how those friendlies are right now, please.

1344.45 MANILA 34:

Roger, standby.

1344.49 POPOV35:

Gotta go home dude.

1344.50 POPOV36:

Yeah, I know. We're f***ed.

1345.54 POPOV35:

S***.

1346.01 POPOV36:

As you cross the circle, you are 3 o'clock low.

1346.03 POPOV35:

Roger.

1346.12 POPOV35:

POPOV 35 is Bingo. Let us know what's happening.

13446.15 MANILA HOTEL:

Roger. We are getting that information for you right now. Standby.

1346.20 POPOV36:

F***.

1346.47 MANILA 34:

POPOV, this is MANILA 34 over.

1346.51 POPOV35:

Go.

1346.55 MANILA 34:

POPOV 4, MANILA 34 over.

1347.01 POPOV35:

Go.

1347.02 MANILA 34:

We are getting an initial brief that there was one killed and one wounded, over.

1347.09 POPOV35:

Copy. RTB (return to base).

1347.18 POPOV35:

I'm going to be sick.

1347.24 POPOV36:

Ah f***.

1347.48 POPOV35:

Did you hear?

1347.51 POPOV36:

Yeah, this sucks.

1347.52 POPOV35:

We're in jail dude.

1347.59 POPOV36:

Aaaahhhh.

1348.12 SKY CHIEF:

MANILA this is SKY CHIEF over.

1348.18 MANILA34:

This is MANILA 34, send SKY CHIEF.

1348.22 COSTA58:

SKY CHIEF, SKY CHIEF. COSTA 58.

1348.25 MANILA HOTEL:

SKY CHIEF, this is MANILA HOTEL.

1348.30 COSTA58:

SKY CHIEF, SKY CHIEF. COSTA 58.

1348.41 SKY CHIEF:

Relaying for TWINACT, the A-10s are running against friendlies.

1348.47 COSTA58:

POPOV 35, this is COSTA58. Relaying message for TWINACT. Abort, abort.

1348.54 SKY CHIEF:

MANILA how copy A-10s are running against friendlies. Abort. Over.

1349.07 COSTA58:

From TWINACT, abort, abort.

1349. 11 POPOV35:

POPOV 35 aborting.

1349.14 COSTA58:

We will relay that back to TWINACT.

1349.18 POPOV36:

F***. God f***ing s***.

1350.21 POPOV36:

Dammit. F***ing damn it.

1351.17 P0POV36:

God dammit. F*** me dead (weeping).

1351.25 POPOV35:

You with me?

1351.27 POPOV36:

Yeah.

1351.30 POPOV35:

They did say there were no friendlies.

1351.33 POPOV36:

Yeah, I know that thing with the orange panels is going to screw us. They look like orange rockets on top.

1351.48 POPOV35:

Your tape still on?

1351.49 POPOV36:

Yeah.

1351.54 POPOV35:

Mine is end of tape.

Transcript ends.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

[Barb]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Ditto. What point are you trying to make by posting that?

[Behshad]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

[Barb]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

Who on earth thinks that? Oh ya, you're the one who thinks that everyone who doesn't think like you is stupid. Nevermind.

[RossValoryRocks]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

Yeah in war mistakes are sometimes made and people die...war isn't fun...but perhaps you should SERVE in the armed forced BEFORE you bash our troops. Carlitto is currently serving with distinction in the US Air Force, I served my time in the Marine Corps...what did you serve in?? Did you even do the Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts? Any thing?

[Carlitto H@kk]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

I guess I'm upset because this is near and dear to me...
That transcript is exactly the kind of "real world" intel I can
read everynight in 'real time' over a secure network
while our jets are in the air, especially over in the Box.
I find it disheartening that this stuff was released to the public.
Those 2 A10 pilots, my heart goes out to them.

I love reading all the war debates in here (notice how I stay out of them?)
but getting a conversation going on something this tragic and this devestating
to the pilots of those A10s, to me, is just not for these forums...

I'm done.
Won't bother with this thread any longer.
Just wanted to vent...

[conversationpc]

No one thinks the war is like a video game. Posting this here is classless, in my opinion.

[Behshad]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

Yeah in war mistakes are sometimes made and people die...war isn't fun...but perhaps you should SERVE in the armed forced BEFORE you bash our troops. Carlitto is currently serving with distinction in the US Air Force, I served my time in the Marine Corps...what did you serve in?? Did you even do the Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts? Any thing?

how and when did I bash our troops???
I have nothing but respect for our troops,,,
and I KNOW Carl is currently serving our country and I know its not the first time he has either.
And do you think that anyone who hasnt served the country is below you and a lowlife?

[RossValoryRocks]

No one thinks the war is like a video game. Posting this here is classless, in my opinion.

The dude who posted evidently does...

[Carlitto H@kk]

Yeah in war mistakes are sometimes made and people die...war isn't fun...but perhaps you should SERVE in the armed forced BEFORE you bash our troops. Carlitto is currently serving with distinction in the US Air Force, I served my time in the Marine Corps...what did you serve in?? Did you even do the Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts? Any thing?

Yo Stu,
Beshad ain't like that.
I KNOW he didn't post this with any maliscious intent
and there is no reason why it can't be discussed.
I, personally, just thought that it was...
a brain fart on B's part.

Beshad's a REALLY good guy.
I ain't mad at him,
he know's that I love him

But thanks for having my back there, Stu!

Kinda like chasing down that fucker by the Civic Arena back
in 1986 that stole my ROR concert ticket
Can you still run that fast?

[Behshad]

No one thinks the war is like a video game. Posting this here is classless, in my opinion.

The dude who posted evidently does...

I didnt post anything that was a secret,,, its on the headline news,,,, and we've managed to discuss anything and everything here,,,,

And Carl,,, you know I got nothing but respect for you,,, I do appoligize if this offended you in any way.

[RossValoryRocks]

Dude, with all due respect,
what the fuck was the point in posting this stuff?
I'm curious as to where you got it...
Honestly, this kinda shit doesn't need posted
or discussed here...

Thats all over the news, dude,,,
I thought we could discuss politics here....
I forgot to get it approved by you, sorry....
Point was to point out to those who think the war is like a videogame.

Yeah in war mistakes are sometimes made and people die...war isn't fun...but perhaps you should SERVE in the armed forced BEFORE you bash our troops. Carlitto is currently serving with distinction in the US Air Force, I served my time in the Marine Corps...what did you serve in?? Did you even do the Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts? Any thing?

how and when did I bash our troops???
I have nothing but respect for our troops,,,
and I KNOW Carl is currently serving our country and I know its not the first time he has either.
And do you think that anyone who hasnt served the country is below you and a lowlife?

I think posting that is bashing our troops...so YES you did bash them.

I think that people who haven't served our country have no right to be critical of our troops because they have NO FUCKING IDEA what it is like in combat situation.

You aren't a low life for not serving...you just have no basis of understanding what our troops go through.

[Carlitto H@kk]

how and when did I bash our troops???
I have nothing but respect for our troops,,,
and I KNOW Carl is currently serving our country and I know its not the first time he has either.
And do you think that anyone who hasnt served the country is below you and a lowlife?

Relax B,
I think Ol' Stu just jumped the gun...
He and I go way back

It's all good...

[RossValoryRocks]

Yeah in war mistakes are sometimes made and people die...war isn't fun...but perhaps you should SERVE in the armed forced BEFORE you bash our troops. Carlitto is currently serving with distinction in the US Air Force, I served my time in the Marine Corps...what did you serve in?? Did you even do the Boy Scouts? Cub Scouts? Any thing?

Yo Stu,
Beshad ain't like that.
I KNOW he didn't post this with any maliscious intent
and there is no reason why it can't be discussed.
I, personally, just thought that it was...
a brain fart on B's part.

Beshad's a REALLY good guy.
I ain't mad at him,
he know's that I love him

But thanks for having my back there, Stu!

Kinda like chasing down that fucker by the Civic Arena back
in 1986 that stole my ROR concert ticket
Can you still run that fast?

Have someone try and steal my bud's Journey ticket and we can find out! But you still got to your seat didn't you...still in the front row...Ahhh the good old days!

[Carlitto H@kk]

I NEED TO HOUT AT YOU NOW TO GET
YOUR ATTENTION, YOU FUCKING JARHEAD :d

Yo Stu,
Beshad ain't like that.
I KNOW he didn't post this with any maliscious intent
and there is no reason why it can't be discussed.
I, personally, just thought that it was...
a brain fart on B's part.

Beshad's a REALLY good guy.
I ain't mad at him,
he know's that I love him

But thanks for having my back there, Stu!

Kinda like chasing down that fucker by the Civic Arena back
in 1986 that stole my ROR concert ticket
Can you still run that fast?

[Behshad]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

[RossValoryRocks]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

Good enough for me....

Now I SUPPORT the war...and I HAVE been there...I have MANY good friends that are there right now...or going to be so shortly...

[RossValoryRocks]

I NEED TO HOUT AT YOU NOW TO GET
YOUR ATTENTION, YOU FUCKING JARHEAD :d

You better saying that with a smile on your face you Airdale...

[Behshad]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

Good enough for me....

Now I SUPPORT the war...and I HAVE been there...I have MANY good friends that are there right now...or going to be so shortly...

I do hope that anyone you know in the war, returns home soon safely. Even those who havent left yet!

[Rockindeano]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

That's how I saw it.

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

[RossValoryRocks]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

That's how I saw it.

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

We'll talk about it in Orlando.

[RossValoryRocks]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

That's how I saw it.

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

The world hated us LONG before George W. Bush or even George H. W. Bush was elected...when you are king of the hill everyone will try and pull you down.

[Rockindeano]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

That's how I saw it.

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

The world hated us LONG before George W. Bush or even George H. W. Bush was elected...when you are king of the hill everyone will try and pull you down.

Not the entire world, and even then, the one's that did hate us, at least respected us. Now, they laugh at us. Allies laugh at us. Canada, UK, AUS, I can go on and on. Face it Stu, your lap dog has played world politics like it was his own XBOX game... Unprepared, not focused, lackadaisical, you name it, he fucked us over. How anyone, and I mean anyone, can support this goatdick is beyond me.

[SteveForever]

AMERICA IS NOT LAUGHED AT, if people here do then they need a reality check. This is a wonderful country and we have more privledge and prosperity than can be put into words. Stop tearing down the country with your words, even if this is a message board!!!

[RossValoryRocks]

Stu,you need to chill out,,,
the purpose of my post was not anti-US!!!
this was to open the eyes for those who dont know the fear our sons and daughters feel, when theyre far away from home
where one sudden misstake can be the difference between life or death,,,
People who support the war , need to see what position our troops are put into,,,, not thinkin its all a piece of cake. This is real life and it puts our people in danger even if we have the over hand in the region.
In no way did I post this to put our troops down,,,,

That's how I saw it.

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

The world hated us LONG before George W. Bush or even George H. W. Bush was elected...when you are king of the hill everyone will try and pull you down.

Not the entire world, and even then, the one's that did hate us, at least respected us. Now, they laugh at us. Allies laugh at us. Canada, UK, AUS, I can go on and on. Face it Stu, your lap dog has played world politics like it was his own XBOX game... Unprepared, not focused, lackadaisical, you name it, he fucked us over. How anyone, and I mean anyone, can support this goatdick is beyond me.

Well I support the President...for a variety of reasons...mostly because we haven't been attacked again, the economy is booming and all and all life is good...I shudder to think what a world of shit we would have been in if Gore had won...or Kerry for that matter...anyways I said we can discuss it in Florida...so I am done now.

[Red13JoePa]

goatdick

Ha!

[Carlitto H@kk]

Not the entire world, and even then, the one's that did hate us, at least respected us. Now, they laugh at us. Allies laugh at us. Canada, UK, AUS, I can go on and on. Face it Stu, your lap dog has played world politics like it was his own XBOX game... Unprepared, not focused, lackadaisical, you name it, he fucked us over. How anyone, and I mean anyone, can support this goatdick is beyond me.

So true...

I don't expect people to 'support' this war.
Hell, my mind changes every couple weeks

I do, however, feel blessed when I see the outpouring
of support that "the troops", myself included, get from the
general public. It isn't like 30-40 years ago where the troops
got blamed for all the horrors of war.
Now the general public realizes, for the most part, that we are just
"doing wht we are told."

[treetopovskaya]

i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


anyway... i think journey has more conspiracy theories then our gov! }:CPP

[Behshad]

i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


anyway... i think journey has more conspiracy theories then our gov! }:CPP

My personal answer is, who give the crap what happens to the Iraqi.... I mean we went there, got rid of the bad guy, and tried to bring peace, and we still get attacked,,, There is so much you can do for a country, besides I thought our mission was to clear Iraq from WMD's, not babysit them and support them, riskin our peoples lives.