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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


anyway... i think journey has more conspiracy theories then our gov! }:CPP



My personal answer is, who give the crap what happens to the Iraqi.... I mean we went there, got rid of the bad guy, and tried to bring peace, and we still get attacked,,, There is so much you can do for a country, besides I thought our mission was to clear Iraq from WMD's, not babysit them and support them, riskin our peoples lives.


It's touchy situation.

We pull out and the country will revert to the way it was with
Sadaam within 2 years. We are not there "just to Liberate Iraq".
We are also there to keep any other whakkos from the surrounding regions
from coming in, setting up shop and starting the terror all over again.

Honestly, pulling out relly isn't an option anymore.
We will be a presence there for a LONG time.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:28 am

treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


Well, when we pulled out of Vietnam, millions of people died because we didn't finish the job. The same thing could happen in Iraq, in my opinion, either by all-out civil war or by Iran sweeping into the region.
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Postby Barb » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:31 am

Behshad wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


anyway... i think journey has more conspiracy theories then our gov! }:CPP



My personal answer is, who give the crap what happens to the Iraqi.... I mean we went there, got rid of the bad guy, and tried to bring peace, and we still get attacked,,, There is so much you can do for a country, besides I thought our mission was to clear Iraq from WMD's, not babysit them and support them, riskin our peoples lives.


The humanitarian crisis that will result in our leaving Iraq right now will make Darfur look like Disneyland, but that is not why we can't leave. Iran already has some of their military over in Iraq fighting/killing our soldiers. Iran is up to their eyeballs in this. We leave, Iran takes over that country and not only we, but the whole world is fucked. Quite honestly, at this point, I couldn't give a rats ass about the Iraqi people. They need to put their bullshit aside and stand up and fight for their own country.

I support what we are trying to do over there and I support our President. However, I am disgusted beyond belief that no one had the foresight to see the potential for civil war once Sadaam was gone.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:32 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


Well, when we pulled out of Vietnam, millions of people died because we didn't finish the job. The same thing could happen in Iraq, in my opinion, either by all-out civil war or by Iran sweeping into the region.


but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:37 am

Behshad wrote:but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


BIG misconception there, Behshad.

The over-whelming majority of the Iraqi population
"want" us there. You just don't see that in the public eye
or in the media because:

1. Horror/Sadness/Death/Cruelty... These are the things that
the media ALWAYS clings to because they know it sells best.

2. These majority Iraqis, living in the smaller towns and such,
are literally affraid to show public support for the US because
of all the 'bad guys' still lurking around and hiding out thru out
the country. They know that 'punishment' will be swift from these
extremists so they stay quiet and 'hide' thier true feelings.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:38 am

Behshad wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


Well, when we pulled out of Vietnam, millions of people died because we didn't finish the job. The same thing could happen in Iraq, in my opinion, either by all-out civil war or by Iran sweeping into the region.


but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


This is what I mean by those who haven't served have no right to criticize...you ask our troops if what they are doing is good and if they feel that risking their lives is worth it and you would get an overwhelming majority would say yes.

Yes it is worth it...and you know what you should try and get your news from someplace other than MSNBC, CNN, or the BIG 3 broadcast networks...try the army, navy, Marine Corps or Air Force times...which BTW are not put out by the Government...but by a private publisher...we are doing more good, and having more success than is ever reported.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:38 am

Behshad wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


Well, when we pulled out of Vietnam, millions of people died because we didn't finish the job. The same thing could happen in Iraq, in my opinion, either by all-out civil war or by Iran sweeping into the region.


but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


If Iran were to get control of that area, then yes, it may well be worth it. Iranian President Ahmadinejad views himself as a modern day Hitler and, if given the chance, will try to pull the same kinds of things, in my opinion. The only difference is that those in charge in Iran don't care if they live or die. If they live, they have a chance for more power. If they die, they have fulfilled Islamic prophecy, in their opinion.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:41 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Behshad wrote:but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


BIG misconception there, Behshad.

The over-whelming majority of the Iraqi population
"want" us there. You just don't see that in the public eye
or in the media because:

1. Horror/Sadness/Death/Cruelty... These are the things that
the media ALWAYS clings to because they know it sells best.

2. These majority Iraqis, living in the smaller towns and such,
are literally affraid to show public support for the US because
of all the 'bad guys' still lurking around and hiding out thru out
the country. They know that 'punishment' will be swift from these
extremists so they stay quiet and 'hide' thier true feelings.



Exactly! I know whats goin on!
The problem is that those who wants us there dont have the power/guns,,, and those who hate us have the gunsand attack us and even their own people.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:43 am

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Behshad wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i have a question...

i hear a lot of people saying that we should just pull out. what do you guys see happening if bush decides tomorrow to pull all troops? what happens to iraq if we pull our troops?

i really don't think the american people know all that's going on. like i said in another post we're only fed 10% of the information... and most of that is from the media... filtered info. so i have to believe our goverment knows what they are doing. they see a bigger picture then all of us.


Well, when we pulled out of Vietnam, millions of people died because we didn't finish the job. The same thing could happen in Iraq, in my opinion, either by all-out civil war or by Iran sweeping into the region.


but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


This is what I mean by those who haven't served have no right to criticize...you ask our troops if what they are doing is good and if they feel that risking their lives is worth it and you would get an overwhelming majority would say yes.

Yes it is worth it...and you know what you should try and get your news from someplace other than MSNBC, CNN, or the BIG 3 broadcast networks...try the army, navy, Marine Corps or Air Force times...which BTW are not put out by the Government...but by a private publisher...we are doing more good, and having more success than is ever reported.


My main source of news is the Swedish media .
I dont like any of the news of the BIG 3 .
And I am not critisizin our troops,,,, I am critisizin those who put our troops lives on the line.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:44 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Behshad wrote:but is it worth it for our troops to risk their lives to save the lives of those who hate us!?


BIG misconception there, Behshad.

The over-whelming majority of the Iraqi population
"want" us there. You just don't see that in the public eye
or in the media because:

1. Horror/Sadness/Death/Cruelty... These are the things that
the media ALWAYS clings to because they know it sells best.

2. These majority Iraqis, living in the smaller towns and such,
are literally affraid to show public support for the US because
of all the 'bad guys' still lurking around and hiding out thru out
the country. They know that 'punishment' will be swift from these
extremists so they stay quiet and 'hide' thier true feelings.


EXACTLY!!!!

and this is why i don't watch the news! i read somewhere that children are playing & going to school but they don't show that... the media just wants to focus on the negative. not just with what's happening in iraq but what happens on a daily basis here at home. it's just sad.
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Postby SteveForever » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:46 am

The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:47 am

Behshad wrote:My main source of news is the Swedish media .


Ahh...well...ask your the troops what they think...and what THEY hear from the Iraqi people...it is much different from what is report in ANY mainstream media...either here in the US or in Sweden.
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Postby Barb » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:48 am

steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:49 am

steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:50 am

Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:52 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?


I live in Ohio,,,I was born and raised in Sweden, my parents moved there from Iran.
Anything else!?:)
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:55 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?


Come on, Stu...
please don't tell me you're going
where I 'think' you're going with this... :shock:
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:56 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?


Come on, Stu...
please don't tell me you're going
where I 'think' you're going with this... :shock:


Nope...I am not going anywhere with it...just curious...and wanting to confirm facts...
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:57 am

Behshad wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?


I live in Ohio,,,I was born and raised in Sweden, my parents moved there from Iran.
Anything else!?:)


Where in Ohio...I have a good friend who lives in Perrysburg and attends that gigantic mosque there.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:58 am

Behshad wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.


Do you listen to Ahmed Rami?
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:58 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


I don't think they are neutral at all.


He lives in Sweden...but and correct me if I am wrong...you are actually Iranian aren't you?


I live in Ohio,,,I was born and raised in Sweden, my parents moved there from Iran.
Anything else!?:)


Where in Ohio...I have a good friend who lives in Perrysburg and attends that gigantic mosque there.



I live out in the boonies,, about 45 miles west of Toledo,,,, and Perrysburg is actualy in the subrubs of Toledo.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:59 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.


Do you listen to Ahmed Rami?


No, whos that??
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:02 pm

Behshad wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.


Do you listen to Ahmed Rami?


No, whos that??


Good man...my opinion of you went up...Ahmed Rami is a Swedish radical Muslim who is a holocaust denier...right nasty dude...broadcasts Radio Islam...
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Postby Barb » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:03 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.


Do you listen to Ahmed Rami?


No, whos that??


Good man...my opinion of you went up...Ahmed Rami is a Swedish radical Muslim who is a holocaust denier...right nasty dude...broadcasts Radio Islam...


I just looked him up. Scary.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:06 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Behshad wrote:
steveforever wrote:The Swedish are neutral right? Well it must be pretty easy to take that stance, wouldn't we all like to sit back and say...."oh we want to be neutral."


But theyre HONEST mostly,,,


and I do talk to people who have been to different wars,, whether its my father in law who was in Vietnam,,, or local boys just returnin from Iraq.


Do you listen to Ahmed Rami?


No, whos that??


Good man...my opinion of you went up...Ahmed Rami is a Swedish radical Muslim who is a holocaust denier...right nasty dude...broadcasts Radio Islam...


so basicaly a copy of the Iranian president.
I dont really listen to any religious news, cause its 99% bullshit,, specialy any and all the radical muslims.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:14 pm

This is of course, a very emotional subject, so let's just be careful where we take this. Be respectful to all.....
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Postby Behshad » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 pm

Andrew wrote:This is of course, a very emotional subject, so let's just be careful where we take this. Be respectful to all.....


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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:23 pm

Andrew wrote:This is of course, a very emotional subject, so let's just be careful where we take this. Be respectful to all.....


We're all good, Mom :)

We started off rocky, because of me,
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:26 pm

Barb wrote:
The humanitarian crisis that will result in our leaving Iraq right now will make Darfur look like Disneyland, but that is not why we can't leave. Iran already has some of their military over in Iraq fighting/killing our soldiers. Iran is up to their eyeballs in this. We leave, Iran takes over that country and not only we, but the whole world is fucked. Quite honestly, at this point, I couldn't give a rats ass about the Iraqi people. They need to put their bullshit aside and stand up and fight for their own country.


Lady, you are fucked beyond belief. You don't give a rats' ass about the Iraqi people, yet you DO support the president and what we are trying to do? What an idiotic, near sighted message that is. It's people like you, who support the tough rhetoric and the fighting, just as long as the "other" Americans are doing the job. You suck ass, Barb. Fuck you, and fuck your fucking GOP too. You close minded yahoos couldn't win a war against fucking Mexico, and yet, you "support" the president :roll:

Gee, what a president he has proven to be.

Fuck Bush, Fuck Cheney, and fuck the entire Administration. Fuck YOU, and Fuck your GOP friends and Fuck your entire pathetic, corrupt party. You CAN LICK THE DRIED CUM OFF MY BALLSACK.
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Postby fredinator » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:27 pm

I've heard several people say on the news that this war and any other war in the middle east cannot go on without some sacrifice from all Americans. It will be interesting to see opinions about this war when all of us are asked to make a sacrifice. I've heard/read the army can only go so far, the economy can only go so far. Hope I'm wrong, but if this does go on and on, how do you all think we can keep it going on and on?
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