Transcript of the US 'friendly fire' Video

[Carlitto H@kk]

Hey Behshad!
Hey Barb!
By "quoting" multiple
quotes every time you post,
you will eventually take up
one entire page with a single reply!
Drew's Bandwidth Meter is gonna
shatter

Try just quoting the exact post
you are responding to

"We now return you to
your regularly scheduled Slug-Fest"

[Scarab Pilot]

Hey Behshad!
Hey Barb!
By "quoting" multiple
quotes every time you post,
you will eventually take up
one entire page with a single reply!
Drew's Bandwidth Meter is gonna
shatter

Try just quoting the exact post
you are responding to

"We now return you to
your regularly scheduled Slug-Fest

I was enjoying the borders upon borders!

[Behshad]

Hey Behshad!
Hey Barb!
By "quoting" multiple
quotes every time you post,
you will eventually take up
one entire page with a single reply!
Drew's Bandwidth Meter is gonna
shatter

Try just quoting the exact post
you are responding to

"We now return you to
your regularly scheduled Slug-Fest"

Good point Carl. I didnt even pay attention.

Now Barb, where were we!?

[conversationpc]

Hey Behshad!
Hey Barb!
By "quoting" multiple
quotes every time you post,
you will eventually take up
one entire page with a single reply!
Drew's Bandwidth Meter is gonna
shatter

Try just quoting the exact post
you are responding to

Actually, it won't. There is a pre-set number of posts before it rolls over to a new page. Doesn't have anything to do with how long the posts are.

But you're right...It IS rather annoying.

[Barb]

Hey Behshad!
Hey Barb!
By "quoting" multiple
quotes every time you post,
you will eventually take up
one entire page with a single reply!
Drew's Bandwidth Meter is gonna
shatter

Try just quoting the exact post
you are responding to

Actually, it won't. There is a pre-set number of posts before it rolls over to a new page. Doesn't have anything to do with how long the posts are.

But you're right...It IS rather annoying.

Sorry guys!

[Dyzzi]

Carlitto, with all due respect, i find your comments somewhat disturbing.

Firstly, your heart goes out to the A10 pilots?? Why?? These 2 pilots broke around 7 rules of combat according to news articles. One of these was to go it alone without waiting for confirmation that the targets they were about to bomb were either Allied troops or the enemy. Or do you consider the UK the enemy.
These 2 pilots should be in jail, but instead they are now promoted to training pilots on how to bomb. Absolutely degrading.

My heart goes out to the family of Matty Hull, you know the soldier that these 2 bombers butchered. They should be locked up for a long time. Suggest you read up on how many UK soldiers have been slain in these kind of fuckups. Its attempted cover ups like this that are widening the ever increasing gap between our 2 countries.

Andrew may i suggest that this thread be closed now before i really start to vent my fuckin frustration here.

First of all, I haven't read the news in ages so I didn't know anything about this incident
until Behshad posted here. Thanks to you, I know the name of the soldier
that perished in this unfortunate instance and my "heart goes out to his families as well".

And your remark "Or do you consider the UK the enemy?"
FUCK YOU and your narrow-minded train of adolecent thought.
Not that it's any of your business but I've been to that region of
the world TWELVE FUCKING TIMES in the past 16 years and I
am going back in July for another 6 months.
I have been stationed with and fought along side troops from the UK,
France, Australia and others every single time and hold
THEM ALL in the highest regard.

What have you done?
Played Couch General from in front of your TV?
Again, FUCK YOU.

You want to hang these 2 pilots out to dry because of a'mistake'.
Yes, a mistake. Guess what? They happen, even in War with all the
high-tech super gizmos out there.
I haven't read the CNN or MSNBC stories but I've read the
transcript and understand EVERYTHING that was being said between ALL
involved and I can tell you this: The pilots were NOT the only ones at fault.
There were miscues and confusion coming from everywhere,
on the ground, the Eyes-In-The-Sky and so on.

FF deaths are a part of EVERY war. Accidents happen.
These guys don't need to go to jail.
The jail they are gonna have to suffer in is in
their own minds, hearts and souls because
they are going to forever have to live with the fact
that they DID MAKE THIS UNFORTUNATE MISTAKE.
It's good that they are still active and being allowed
to 'train' pilots now. Even if asked, they would probably
have a hard time ever driving a real-world mission again.

So yeah, My heart goes out to them and if that
"DISTURBS" you well then TOO FUCKING BAD.

Go sign up, grab a gun and some ChemGear
and hop on that plane with me in July.

Otherwise, don't bring your sorry-ass whining
and hurt feelings my way.

Ok maybe it was a mistake, but why did the goverment deny that the video exsisted in the first place ?
How do you think Matty Hull's family are feeling now knowing that they have been lied to even 4 yrs down the line
surely if it was a mistake the pilots in question should of come forward.
I feel real bad with whats going on over there and many many innconent life's have been lost.
Well thats just (IMO).

Suppose i will get slammed now as i'm a brit too.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Ok maybe it was a mistake, but why did the goverment deny that the video exsisted in the first place ?
How do you think Matty Hull's family are feeling now knowing that they have been lied to even 4 yrs down the line
surely if it was a mistake the pilots in question should of come forward.
I feel real bad with whats going on over there and many many innconent life's have been lost.
Well thats just (IMO).

Suppose i will get slammed now as i'm a brit too.

Investigations in events like these can literally take
years to sort out. And why would the pilots want to come forward
while they were under investigation? I'm sure they feel guilty
enough. Going public right after the incident would've made
things even harder for them, their families, their unit an so on.
I know Matty's family went thru hell but it was an unfortunate
accident. Why destroy so many other lives over this if you
don't have to?

PS Glad you changed your Av

That was the ONLY thing I was gonna
slam you on! WAY too big the first time

[Behshad]

Dyzzi
Just know that if Carl ever slams you, its never because of your race,religion or sex.
Well maybe the sex part, but only if youre a female, married to him and carryin his child.
Back to the subject, do you really think that any wars before this were all clean, no misstakes and no innocent lives wasted!?
War has it all,,, mostly bad,,,, but one thing we all need to realize is that we cant keep puttin the blame on those who fight the war, but rather those who put them in that situation.

[ohsherrie]

War has it all,,, mostly bad,,,, but one thing we all need to realize is that we cant keep puttin the blame on those who fight the war, but rather those who put them in that situation.

Bravo! Amen, Ditto, and all the things that say I agree and good post.

[styxman]

You know, no matter how much you spread this particular topic out page after page........the truly dignified wife of the British Serviceman killed, stated she didn't want this transcript to become a political war or words. She just wants to find out what happened on that awful day, that's all! Then on the news last night you get the other extreme...an American from the pilot's hometown, placing a US flag on camera outside his house, callin' this 'National Guard' pilot a hero. He then goes on to say..."Your country (UK) better fall in line with us and not act like we did in WW2, holding back with thumbs in our mouths and waiting for the good old US of A to do the job
It's down to the media.....rather than find one level headed person in the 'Hero's' hometown they find a a complete lunatic on day release from the asylum...that's why I pay very little attention to the media, if it's not what the latest Celebrity is eating, it's a political gain story blown out of all proportion.
As for immigration, people want to find work and better themselves in another country, that's fine by me. Those that want to come over and spread religious views, sure let them but ignore them, give them no press coverage and they'll soon get bored. Smile at them, say hello, buy them a drink and one day they might just say, hey these people aren't that bad after all!
Carlitto, if I don't drop back in again, look after yourself out there, as I, like many Bristish people wish you a safe and speedy return. Also other than Burgers, American Football and Flags outside houses, I think American Culture is cool!

[Behshad]

You know, no matter how much you spread this particular topic out page after page........the truly dignified wife of the British Serviceman killed, stated she didn't want this transcript to become a political war or words. She just wants to find out what happened on that awful day, that's all! Then on the news last night you get the other extreme...an American from the pilot's hometown, placing a US flag on camera outside his house, callin' this 'National Guard' pilot a hero. He then goes on to say..."Your country (UK) better fall in line with us and not act like we did in WW2, holding back with thumbs in our mouths and waiting for the good old US of A to do the job
It's down to the media.....rather than find one level headed person in the 'Hero's' hometown they find a a complete lunatic on day release from the asylum...that's why I pay very little attention to the media, if it's not what the latest Celebrity is eating, it's a political gain story blown out of all proportion.
As for immigration, people want to find work and better themselves in another country, that's fine by me. Those that want to come over and spread religious views, sure let them but ignore them, give them no press coverage and they'll soon get bored. Smile at them, say hello, buy them a drink and one day they might just say, hey these people aren't that bad after all!
Carlitto, if I don't drop back in again, look after yourself out there, as I, like many Bristish people wish you a safe and speedy return. Also other than Burgers, American Football and Flags outside houses, I think American Culture is cool!

Good to see you styxman:)
Burgers dont come from US they originate from Hamburg, Germany .
The American Footbal is ok, except I dont even know why its called football when 95% of the time you dont use the feet!

[Moon Beam]

Styxman!!!!!
Nice to see ya here Sir.

(pay no attention to me folks, jus saying haylow)

[styxman]

You know, no matter how much you spread this particular topic out page after page........the truly dignified wife of the British Serviceman killed, stated she didn't want this transcript to become a political war or words. She just wants to find out what happened on that awful day, that's all! Then on the news last night you get the other extreme...an American from the pilot's hometown, placing a US flag on camera outside his house, callin' this 'National Guard' pilot a hero. He then goes on to say..."Your country (UK) better fall in line with us and not act like we did in WW2, holding back with thumbs in our mouths and waiting for the good old US of A to do the job
It's down to the media.....rather than find one level headed person in the 'Hero's' hometown they find a a complete lunatic on day release from the asylum...that's why I pay very little attention to the media, if it's not what the latest Celebrity is eating, it's a political gain story blown out of all proportion.
As for immigration, people want to find work and better themselves in another country, that's fine by me. Those that want to come over and spread religious views, sure let them but ignore them, give them no press coverage and they'll soon get bored. Smile at them, say hello, buy them a drink and one day they might just say, hey these people aren't that bad after all!
Carlitto, if I don't drop back in again, look after yourself out there, as I, like many Bristish people wish you a safe and speedy return. Also other than Burgers, American Football and Flags outside houses, I think American Culture is cool!

Good to see you styxman:)
Burgers dont come from US they originate from Hamburg, Germany .
The American Footbal is ok, except I dont even know why its called football when 95% of the time you dont use the feet!

Hot Dogs then.....or perhaps they originate from Korea but I'm guessing the American version doesn't have the legs and tail hanging out the bun Good to see you too Behshad....as for American Football, you just couldn't figure how to make the ball round and as we'd left the colony we wouldn't let you in on the secret. The early Americans tried hard to play the game with their feet but in proved too tricky due to the shape, then one day a bright spark picked the fuckin' thing up and ran with it and all the other numskulls chased him, scared, he then threw it and another bright spark not knowing what to do caught it and touched the ball down...it took a few more years to create what you have now but basically it's still as fuckin' pointless as it was back then

[styxman]

Styxman!!!!!
Nice to see ya here Sir.

(pay no attention to me folks, jus saying haylow)

Hi Moon, speak soon my favorite Canadian lady

[RedWingFan]

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

Fine, being against the war on terror does not make you unpatriotic Deano. What it does make you is weak and unable or unwilling to face reality. And ultimately will lead to your death, because that's what our enemies want.
The war against Iraq has been over for along time. We are now fighting terrorists over there on their turf while strengthening a new friend in the new Iraqi gov't.
What IS unpatriotic is the fact that the Democrat party is invested in our defeat. Answer this for me please Deano. After the Democrat's have taken their current position of cutting and running. How would U.S success in Iraq (which I believe is happening, due to captured terrorist documents complaining of our neverending waves of troops. And the terrorist's urgent pleas for reenforcements) help the Democrat party in '08 and beyond? And before you start with "the people have spoken, they want us out of Iraq" crap. If that were true, the Democrat party would move to pull funding. But they can't because the majority of Americans are not Lib's and they want to see America win. For anyone who doesn't and have set themselves up politically to benefit from our loss IS unpatriotic! By the way, that "FUCKING RETARD" has done a hell of alot in keeping us from being attacked again. I can look up alot of plots that have been thwarted here to send you if you'd like. The way I see it the "FUCKING RETARD" isn't in the white house, but somewhere in the deep blue state of Cali'

[Behshad]

Being against this Bullshit war is NOT unpatriotic. Questioning it, and standing up to this God forsaken Administration and the FUCKING RETARD who lives in the White House IS. Thanks to him, we are now a joke in the eyes of the world. Thanks a lot W.

Fine, being against the war on terror does not make you unpatriotic Deano. What it does make you is weak and unable or unwilling to face reality. And ultimately will lead to your death, because that's what our enemies want.
The war against Iraq has been over for along time. We are now fighting terrorists over there on their turf while strengthening a new friend in the new Iraqi gov't.
What IS unpatriotic is the fact that the Democrat party is invested in our defeat. Answer this for me please Deano. After the Democrat's have taken their current position of cutting and running. How would U.S success in Iraq (which I believe is happening, due to captured terrorist documents complaining of our neverending waves of troops. And the terrorist's urgent pleas for reenforcements) help the Democrat party in '08 and beyond? And before you start with "the people have spoken, they want us out of Iraq" crap. If that were true, the Democrat party would move to pull funding. But they can't because the majority of Americans are not Lib's and they want to see America win. For anyone who doesn't and have set themselves up politically to benefit from our loss IS unpatriotic! By the way, that "FUCKING RETARD" has done a hell of alot in keeping us from being attacked again. I can look up alot of plots that have been thwarted here to send you if you'd like. The way I see it the "FUCKING RETARD" isn't in the white house, but somewhere in the deep blue state of Cali'

Since Deano isnt here right now to respond to your nonsense, I will try to do it for him.
No one is against WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. We're against the war in Iraq that has no connections to the 9/11 and othe terrorist attacks.
If we wouldve continued our war against terrorism in AFGHANISTAN and detroyed Al Qaida there, then I would give all the support to the war. Im not gonna go into this again , so read my previous posts!

I almost forgot

[RedWingFan]

Since Deano isnt here right now to respond to your nonsense, I will try to do it for him.
No one is against WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. We're against the war in Iraq that has no connections to the 9/11 and othe terrorist attacks.
If we wouldve continued our war against terrorism in AFGHANISTAN and detroyed Al Qaida there, then I would give all the support to the war. Im not gonna go into this again , so read my previous posts!

Why do you support the war in AFGHANISTAN? Afghanistan didn't attack us. We attacked the Taliban in Afghanistan, we didn't attack Al Qaida there!!! So you don't believe that Al Qaida is in Iraq????? DO YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT????? You can't believe that!!! Didn't we kill Al-Zarqawi in Iraq???? You can talk about the war in Iraq all you want. What I'm saying is the war in Iraq (just as the war in Afghanistan) IS THE WAR ON TERROR!!!!! We are no longer fighting Saddam's feared Royal Guard, are we. Remember the media saying a ground invasion to capture Bagdhad would result in 100,000 bodybags??? You may not want to admit it but those are the facts. Feel free to answer the question I posed to Deano also.
What does "you almost forgot your IQ" mean?

[Matthew]

Afghanistan didn't attack us. We attacked the Taliban in Afghanistan, we didn't attack Al Qaida there!!!

Wasn't Bin Laden being shielded by the Taliban? Weren't the key training camps used by Bin Laden and the Sep 11 hijackers in Afghanistan too?

[Behshad]

Since Deano isnt here right now to respond to your nonsense, I will try to do it for him.
No one is against WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. We're against the war in Iraq that has no connections to the 9/11 and othe terrorist attacks.
If we wouldve continued our war against terrorism in AFGHANISTAN and detroyed Al Qaida there, then I would give all the support to the war. Im not gonna go into this again , so read my previous posts!

Why do you support the war in AFGHANISTAN? Afghanistan didn't attack us. We attacked the Taliban in Afghanistan, we didn't attack Al Qaida there!!! So you don't believe that Al Qaida is in Iraq????? DO YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT????? You can't believe that!!! Didn't we kill Al-Zarqawi in Iraq???? You can talk about the war in Iraq all you want. What I'm saying is the war in Iraq (just as the war in Afghanistan) IS THE WAR ON TERROR!!!!! We are no longer fighting Saddam's feared Royal Guard, are we. Remember the media saying a ground invasion to capture Bagdhad would result in 100,000 bodybags??? You may not want to admit it but those are the facts. Feel free to answer the question I posed to Deano also.
What does "you almost forgot your IQ" mean?

Saddam and his regime were NOT connected to 9/11. Taliban/Al Qaida and Bin Laden were. And the majority of those responsible were(still are) in Afghanistan. Sure we killed Al Zarqwi,,, but did it really help the situation? No,,, killin him just motivates the main people in Afghanistan to plan yet another attack in the future..... Ive said it before and I say it again, Saddam was a threat to the REGION, Bin Laden is a threat to THE WORLD,,,, Saddam killed his own people, Bin Laden killed OUR PEOPLE.,,,, Which war should we handle first!? Think about it next time you POSE a question for Deano, IQ-boy!

[RedWingFan]

Afghanistan didn't attack us. We attacked the Taliban in Afghanistan, we didn't attack Al Qaida there!!!

Wasn't Bin Laden being shielded by the Taliban? Weren't the key training camps used by Bin Laden and the Sep 11 hijackers in Afghanistan too?

Sure the hijackers are dead and if we captured or killed Bin Laden, already, in days, months or years to come. The war on terror probably won't be over will it? Bin Laden may now be shielded in Syria or Iran. Their war against us did not start, nor will it end with Bin Laden. They're counting on us (by us I mean freedom loving nations) not to have the stomach or the toughness to win. That is their only hope. Cool Av of Token by the way

[RedWingFan]

Saddam and his regime were NOT connected to 9/11. Taliban/Al Qaida and Bin Laden were. And the majority of those responsible were(still are) in Afghanistan.

No one ever said he was. The reason Iraq was targeted was Saddam's long history of thumbing his nose at the U.N. The long list of Resolution violations. Our belief that he had WMD's which he bolstered by throwing out weapons inspectors. I guess I don't understand why it's okay to fight Al qaida in one country and not another. Was the only thing we did wrong was to rid the world of Saddam and free millions of Iraqis?

Sure we killed Al Zarqwi,,, but did it really help the situation? No,,, killin him just motivates the main people in Afghanistan to plan yet another attack in the future

If you had a gang of thugs in you're neighborhood. And a couple of them beat and raped your sister within an inch of her life. Would you tell her not to testify and have them prosecuted because that would make them and the rest of the gang even madder and they would retaliate? If you say yes than you are a gutless coward. The analogy is the same, the U.S. shouldn't attack al-qaida's leaders cuz it's just gonna make them madder. Gutless

Which war should we handle first!? Think about it next time you POSE a question for Deano, IQ-boy!

I don't have any preference in what order it comes in. I just know we NEED to win. The president said from the outset, it's a war like know other that's been fought before, it's going to be difficult and it's going to outlast his term in office. Some of us just don't have the guts to do what it takes to win.
And I'll pose whatever I want to Deano, I already straightened his ass out on Bertuzzi. I'm sure national defense issues will take a bit more time to get through to him, seeing as how there is nothing as important

[Crazie Scarab]

The Democratics can stop the war at any time by defunding it through Congress.

They won't.

Why?

[RedWingFan]

The Democratics can stop the war at any time by defunding it through Congress.

They won't.

Why?

What's your theory?

[ForceInfinity]

Not to go posting common sense, but some things I gotta point out:

-George Bush put our troops in a very tough position
-Him and Donald Rumsfelds crew made some really bad assumptions, thinking we can roll up in Iraq and everyone would love us. Right. Mistake number two is even thinking we should hold that country together. Let the country fragment. Right now it's going to end up being controlled by Shiites and I dare say the last thing we want is a Shiite controlled Iraq since it can closely tie to another Shiite country Iran. Mistake number 3 was creating questionable grounds to get into this war, which in turn destroyed our credibility (or what we had of it) around the world
-Anyone who thinks they war on terrorism can be won is seriously deluded. The only way you can win the war on terrorism is to commit out and out genocide against the side you're targetting. Even then you got a huge problem in this country and all it takes is one dude and you got a problem. The best you can hope for is containment, but it only takes one jackass and you're screwed. The only way you're going to root out all these jackasses leads into the next point
-The only way to completely protected this country from terrorists, you need to turn it into a police state and start stripping out a ton of rights (something that we seem to be heading toward)
-Everyone says George Bush kept us safe. I doubt it. Everyone points out that there's been no terrorist attacks on our soil since 2001. Well to my knowledge, there's only been 2 attacks on the CONUS from the terrorists in the 34 years that I've been alive. We certainly didn't have all this security crap in place prior to 9-11 and that leaves us with WTC some 8 years earlier. Even without Patriot act, we've had very few incidents to speak of.
-Free countries are inherently dangerous, that's just a fact
-Since we are already in Iraq, we need to finish off what we started and get to a point where Iraq runs things
-Democrats don't have the right answer since it seems like they want to run from wars (which sadly are necessary in some cases)

*drops two seconds in bucket*

[Behshad]

Not to go posting common sense, but some things I gotta point out:

-George Bush put our troops in a very tough position
-Him and Donald Rumsfelds crew made some really bad assumptions, thinking we can roll up in Iraq and everyone would love us. Right. Mistake number two is even thinking we should hold that country together. Let the country fragment. Right now it's going to end up being controlled by Shiites and I dare say the last thing we want is a Shiite controlled Iraq since it can closely tie to another Shiite country Iran. Mistake number 3 was creating questionable grounds to get into this war, which in turn destroyed our credibility (or what we had of it) around the world
-Anyone who thinks they war on terrorism can be won is seriously deluded. The only way you can win the war on terrorism is to commit out and out genocide against the side you're targetting. Even then you got a huge problem in this country and all it takes is one dude and you got a problem. The best you can hope for is containment, but it only takes one jackass and you're screwed. The only way you're going to root out all these jackasses leads into the next point
-The only way to completely protected this country from terrorists, you need to turn it into a police state and start stripping out a ton of rights (something that we seem to be heading toward)
-Everyone says George Bush kept us safe. I doubt it. Everyone points out that there's been no terrorist attacks on our soil since 2001. Well to my knowledge, there's only been 2 attacks on the CONUS from the terrorists in the 34 years that I've been alive. We certainly didn't have all this security crap in place prior to 9-11 and that leaves us with WTC some 8 years earlier. Even without Patriot act, we've had very few incidents to speak of.
-Free countries are inherently dangerous, that's just a fact
-Since we are already in Iraq, we need to finish off what we started and get to a point where Iraq runs things
-Democrats don't have the right answer since it seems like they want to run from wars (which sadly are necessary in some cases)

*drops two seconds in bucket*

All great and valid points!!!




Redwingfan,,,, you used a very poor example there. If you really wanna compare it in a situation like that, this is more like it:

Lets say your sister got raped by this gang leader and his man when she was on the other side of town. But since you didnt have the guts to go face him down and kick his ass, you rather look around in a different neighbourhood to find a member of the same gang and kick his ass to show the gang leader "now we're even". This is what we have done so far. Have we really won the battle? No.

Here's the main difference between You and I. I dont support the war, yet I support our troops and hope that they will come home soon within a realistice time frame.
You support the war, but you only support it from your couch. If you support the war to this extreme, you could show it by packin your bags and join our brother Carl.

[Matthew]

Cool Av of Token by the way

Token? The avatar was listed under "Randy Jackson" in Google images.

[RedWingFan]

Lets say your sister got raped by this gang leader and his man when she was on the other side of town. But since you didnt have the guts to go face him down and kick his ass

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Yeah we didn't have the guts to face bin laded, he's currently hiding in some cave and the U.S. doesn't have guts. No offense Carlitto, I'm sure Behshad just botched a joke.

[RedWingFan]

Cool Av of Token by the way

Token? The avatar was listed under "Randy Jackson" in Google images.

Now that you mention it, I believe it!!! Funny stuff

[Behshad]

Lets say your sister got raped by this gang leader and his man when she was on the other side of town. But since you didnt have the guts to go face him down and kick his ass

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Yeah we didn't have the guts to face bin laded, he's currently hiding in some cave and the U.S. doesn't have guts. No offense Carlitto, I'm sure Behshad just botched a joke.

This whole thing is like a joke to you!

Bin Laden may be hiding from us,, but he is also laughin at us and sendin out ridiculous messages, because we cant capture him.
Also its funny how you tryin to interpret(a bit twisted) my post, to Carl ?
Carl and I know where we have eachother. I am proud to know a guy like him, not only cause he fights for our country, but also cause he is an intelligent and genuine guy with a heart of gold.
When I suggested you join Carl, its mainly because you need to see what war is all about before you can just sit on your couch and support it 100%.
If you have such strong feelings and passion about the war, shouldnt you join in ?

[RedWingFan]

Lets say your sister got raped by this gang leader and his man when she was on the other side of town. But since you didnt have the guts to go face him down and kick his ass

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Yeah we didn't have the guts to face bin laded, he's currently hiding in some cave and the U.S. doesn't have guts. No offense Carlitto, I'm sure Behshad just botched a joke.

This whole thing is like a joke to you!

Bin Laden may be hiding from us,, but he is also laughin at us and sendin out ridiculous messages, because we cant capture him.

He was laughing at us back in the 90's calling us a paper tiger. I'd bet he's no longer laughing (if he hasn't yet assumed room temperture) His whole network has been disrupted and in dissaray. After 9/11 I seriously considered joining although I'm no longer in my prime years. I didn't for a variety of reasons that aren't any of your business. But as far as Carl and all the others that did join, I take offense to "I support the troops but I don't support the war". That'd be like saying "I support the members of Journey but they've yet to record a decent song and are my favorite band ever" It makes no sense