Transcript of the US 'friendly fire' Video

[Crazie Scarab]

The Democratics can stop the war at any time by defunding it through Congress.

They won't.

Why?

What's your theory?

I'm not getting involved in this BS. I'm just pointing out the only way the Democratics are able end the war at this point in time.

[Rick]

The Democratics can stop the war at any time by defunding it through Congress.

They won't.

Why?

What's your theory?

I'm not getting involved in this BS. I'm just pointing out the only way the Democratics are able end the war at this point in time.

Oh, YOU'RE involved dude!

j/k

[strangegrey]

But as far as Carl and all the others that did join, I take offense to "I support the troops but I don't support the war". That'd be like saying "I support the members of Journey but they've yet to record a decent song and are my favorite band ever" It makes no sense

Agreed. The idea that you can support one but not the other is assinine on the tallest order. The two, are by no means mutually exclusive. In fact, they're mutually connected. That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

The fact of the matter is that it's a very gutless way for someone to try to save face instead of being painted anti-patriot by saying you don't agree with the war.

If you don't support the war, fine. No problem with me. But that means you don't support the troops. Period. There's no middle ground. Grow a pair of balls and come out and say it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Because there's simply no way you can say one without saying the other.

[Behshad]

But as far as Carl and all the others that did join, I take offense to "I support the troops but I don't support the war". That'd be like saying "I support the members of Journey but they've yet to record a decent song and are my favorite band ever" It makes no sense

Agreed. The idea that you can support one but not the other is assinine on the tallest order. The two, are by no means mutually exclusive. In fact, they're mutually connected. That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

The fact of the matter is that it's a very gutless way for someone to try to save face instead of being painted anti-patriot by saying you don't agree with the war.

If you don't support the war, fine. No problem with me. But that means you don't support the troops. Period. There's no middle ground. Grow a pair of balls and come out and say it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Because there's simply no way you can say one without saying the other.

How the fuck do you figure that !? Youve always been actin kinda dumbbefore, but I know now it wasnt acting and all you.
I dont support the idioits who send out our countries sons and daughters over there to get killed,,,, But I do support the those who are there and have to do it, cause they have no choice. When you sign up for the military, you basically agree to do whatever it takes to do your job. Its like signing a contract with your company at any time,., you do it cause you have to, but doesnt mean you love it.
Pretty simple , dontcha think!? Has fuckin nothin to do with having a fuckin cake and eatin it .

So you basically think that all the people who are anti-war , are all anti-troops!? get real !


and redwingfan,,, your examples are plain stupids,,,,, if you wanna compare things, try to use some common sense too ,,,,at least ONCE IN A WHILE!

[SteveForever]

And....back to the neutral Sweds. who are "honest." (as you said Beshad)
www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/31/euro ... sports.php

[Rick]

But as far as Carl and all the others that did join, I take offense to "I support the troops but I don't support the war". That'd be like saying "I support the members of Journey but they've yet to record a decent song and are my favorite band ever" It makes no sense

Agreed. The idea that you can support one but not the other is assinine on the tallest order. The two, are by no means mutually exclusive. In fact, they're mutually connected. That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

The fact of the matter is that it's a very gutless way for someone to try to save face instead of being painted anti-patriot by saying you don't agree with the war.

If you don't support the war, fine. No problem with me. But that means you don't support the troops. Period. There's no middle ground. Grow a pair of balls and come out and say it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Because there's simply no way you can say one without saying the other.

Well I definitely support our troops with every ounce of my being, but I do not support the war. Your post is bullshit Strange and RedWing. Our troops, if you remember correctly, were deployed to disarm a psycho of weapons of mass destruction. That never materialized. They should have came home then. No. They are now fighting the war of the truth of the matter. MONEY! There were never WMD, that was a snow storm to get the US behind GWB. He fucked us, and is getting our kids killed because he's a fucking liar, and is in it for nothing more than money.
I remember firmly the events of 9/11, but that had nothing to do with Iraq. They may have harbored terrorist that had ties to that, but they should have said they were going after those people. Don't camouflage it with this WMD bullshit.
I will support the troops until I die. I see them walk through DFW where I work, and have applauded them more times than I can count. Don't freakin tell anyone that they don't support the troops if they don't support the war. That is just wrong.

[conversationpc]

Agreed. The idea that you can support one but not the other is assinine on the tallest order. The two, are by no means mutually exclusive. In fact, they're mutually connected. That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

The fact of the matter is that it's a very gutless way for someone to try to save face instead of being painted anti-patriot by saying you don't agree with the war.

If you don't support the war, fine. No problem with me. But that means you don't support the troops. Period. There's no middle ground. Grow a pair of balls and come out and say it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Because there's simply no way you can say one without saying the other.

I support the war and have since the beginning. I think we needed to do it and I think we need to stay until the job is finished rather than pulling out like the liberals want to.

However, I think it's rather asinine to say that you can't be opposed to the war and support the troops at the same time. There are some who don't support the war that still wish our troops to be successful and stay out of harm's way, if at all possible. Then there are morons like Michael Moore, Dennis Kucinich, etc., who accuse our Commander in Chief and troops of atrocities and the traitors who spit on solders, call them baby killers, murderers, etc. THOSE are the people that are truly not supporting the troops.

[Lula]

I have opposed the invasion of Iraq since day one. I support the men and women that serve in our military. Support our troops, bring them home!!

[larryfromnextdoor]

That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

i like bananna splits but not cherrys,, i like doors but not knobs..

[larryfromnextdoor]

That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

i want to win the lottery but not pay the taxes..i want to be a banker but not wear a tie..

[SteveForever]

That's like saying "I want to join the marines for ground infantry, but I don't want to kill anyone!" or I want to be a surgeon, but I don't like blood!"...

i want to win the lottery but not pay the taxes..i want to be a banker but not wear a tie..

I like steak, but I don't want cows to die

[Rick]

You right wing fuckers are killing this country. I can count on my one fungus infected toe how many allies we have left since GWB has taken office. You can bow and believe in him all you want, but the rest of the entire world cant be wrong. If you think they are, then you are as delusional as Bush is.

[SteveForever]

You right wing fuckers are killing this country. I can count on my one fungus infected toe how many allies we have left since GWB has taken office. You can bow and believe in him all you want, but the rest of the entire world cant be wrong. If you think they are, then you are as delusional as Bush is.

how profound.....

[Saint John]

Here's the war in a nutshell. It's each American's right to oppose the war. HOWEVER, it's also their right to go buy an American flag and burn it. In the end, it's the same thing in practical terms. We're NOT leaving until, at the very earliest, after the next election. So this "Bring our troops home" bullshit, while everyone's right, is only fueling the fire AGAINST our troops. It's gotta be comical for our enemies to sit back and wonder how people could possibly be divided when it's SO obvious we're not leaving anytime soon. The Cindy Sheehan's of the world, along with the rest of hollywood's whackjobs only strengthen our enemey's resolve by making us seem divided. They use such propaganda to recruit new fighters, bombers, etc. So while it's your right to oppose the war, open your fucking eyes to the practical and real damage it may be doing. Americans should speak with their votes and keep their mouths shut. The best, and safest, way to "protest" is with a ballot. Public displays, while our right, do FAR more harm than good.

[conversationpc]

You right wing fuckers are killing this country. I can count on my one fungus infected toe how many allies we have left since GWB has taken office. You can bow and believe in him all you want, but the rest of the entire world cant be wrong. If you think they are, then you are as delusional as Bush is.

Most of the world votes against us in the U.N. on most votes. Are we wrong there, too?

[Rick]

You right wing fuckers are killing this country. I can count on my one fungus infected toe how many allies we have left since GWB has taken office. You can bow and believe in him all you want, but the rest of the entire world cant be wrong. If you think they are, then you are as delusional as Bush is.

Most of the world votes against us in the U.N. on most votes. Are we wrong there, too?

I don't know Dave, but there is no doubt that GWB misled us. Now we are in a war, where the rest of the world says we're wrong. I, like the rest of America wants to believe we are doing whats right, but it sure poses a great argument that maybe we aren't right in this campaign. I'm the first to wave the American flag and support our troops, but for crying out loud, theres a lot of data that says we're not doing this the proper way.

[Blueskies]

Here's the war in a nutshell. It's each American's right to oppose the war. HOWEVER, it's also their right to go buy an American flag and burn it. In the end, it's the same thing in practical terms. We're NOT leaving until, at the very earliest, after the next election. So this "Bring our troops home" bullshit, while everyone's right, is only fueling the fire AGAINST our troops. It's gotta be comical for our enemies to sat back and wonder how people could possibly be divided when it's SO obvious we're not leaving anytime soon. The Cindy Sheehan's of the world, along with the rest of hollywood's whackjobs only strengthen our enemey's resolve by making us seem divided. They use such propaganda to recruit new fighters, bombers, etc. So while it's your right to oppose the war, open your fucking eyes to the practical and real damage it may be doing. Americans should speak with their votes and keep their mouths shut. The best, and safest, way to "protest" is with a ballot. Public displays, while our right, do FAR more harm than good.

By your reasoning....then what the hell are we there fighting for?.....isnt the whole premise why is to take these people out of a dictatorship and give them a democracy where they can enjoy the same rights, privileges and freedoms that we enjoy? .....one being the right to speak up and protest in opposition to our goverment without fear of beheading..... of our voices of opposition not being silenced? The demand for silencing critics and those who have a different opinion or see things in a different way has the same effect as beheading someone does.....take away someones right to speak and think for themselves.....may as well just chop off the head.

[conversationpc]

I don't know Dave, but there is no doubt that GWB misled us.

I get so sick of hearing that Bush "misled" us or that he "lied". If it's true that anyone misled or lied to us, then it has to be our men and women in the intelligence community and the men and women from many other countries who gathered the intelligence that they thought showed Iraq had WMDs. If Bush lied, then so did most members of Congress at the time who had access to the same intelligence that Bush had. That means Kerry lied. That means Hillary lied, etc., because they were saying the exact same things that the Bush administration was saying.

[frostbite]

This whole thread is officially going nowhere now...apart from around in circles.

[Saint John]

Here's the war in a nutshell. It's each American's right to oppose the war. HOWEVER, it's also their right to go buy an American flag and burn it. In the end, it's the same thing in practical terms. We're NOT leaving until, at the very earliest, after the next election. So this "Bring our troops home" bullshit, while everyone's right, is only fueling the fire AGAINST our troops. It's gotta be comical for our enemies to sat back and wonder how people could possibly be divided when it's SO obvious we're not leaving anytime soon. The Cindy Sheehan's of the world, along with the rest of hollywood's whackjobs only strengthen our enemey's resolve by making us seem divided. They use such propaganda to recruit new fighters, bombers, etc. So while it's your right to oppose the war, open your fucking eyes to the practical and real damage it may be doing. Americans should speak with their votes and keep their mouths shut. The best, and safest, way to "protest" is with a ballot. Public displays, while our right, do FAR more harm than good.

By your reasoning....then what the hell are we there fighting for?.....isnt the whole premise why is to take these people out of a dictatorship and give them a democracy where they can enjoy the same rights, privileges and freedoms that we enjoy? .....one being the right to speak up and protest in opposition to our goverment without fear of beheading..... of our voices of opposition not being silenced? The demand for silencing critics and those who have a different opinion or see things in a different way has the same effect as beheading someone does.....take away someones right to speak and think for themselves.....may as well just chop off the head.

Here's my point. President Bush is NOT leaving Iraq. So, if you truly want what's best for our troops, (and don't say "Bring them home" as it's not an option) you'll voice your opposition with your ballot, much as people did during the mid-term elections. Public protests, while your right, are strengthening the resolve of our enemies, as they see us as weak and divided. Hell, go protest 24 hours a day if you'd like. My main point of emphasis is that it's NOT doing our troops any good, rather quite the opposite. I'm honestly trying to convey what I think is best for our troops. Believe me, I also think that those I disagree with are too. We just have different idealogies. Carlitto might be able to offer us some insight. Paging Mr. Hakk.

[ohsherrie]

This whole thread is officially going nowhere now...apart from around in circles.

As all threads like this do after a while. That's because nothing we say on either side of the agrument is going to change anything. I guess we all just like to speak our minds on a subject that we're passionate about.

[Scarab Pilot]

Here's my point. President Bush is NOT leaving Iraq. So, if you truly want what's best for our troops, (and don't say "Bring them home" as it's not an option) you'll voice your opposition with your ballot, much as people did during the mid-term elections. Public protests, while your right, are strengthening the resolve of our enemies, as they see us as weak and divided. Hell, go protest 24 hours a day if you'd like. My main point of emphasis is that it's NOT doing our troops any good, rather quite the opposite. I'm honestly trying to convey what I think is best for our troops. Believe me, I also think that those I disagree with are too. We just have different idealogies. Carlitto might be able to offer us some insight. Paging Mr. Hakk.

Nice post. Well said.

[Behshad]

And....back to the neutral Sweds. who are "honest." (as you said Beshad)
www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/31/euro ... sports.php

I said theyre honest most of the time and I was talkin about the swedish MEDIA,. Their goverment is as bad as ours, just in dissguise!
Pay attention next time!!!