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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:12 pm

RockinDeano wrote:and Big Ben didn't take the offseason seriously.
Fuck em.

He didn't take that bike too seriously either :lol:
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:15 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Cower is overrated.


Sorry to resort to MonkeyBoy reply tactics here (quoting EVERY FUCKING LINE :lol: )
but that statement is absurd. No coach in the league over the past 15 years
has had to deal with an owner like Cowher has. The Rooneys don't spend big money
on players; biggest tight-wads in the league. But even with a rotating roster of
players because of free-agency losses, Cowher was always able to get the best
out of his players. Last year was a hiccup.
Partly Ben's fault cause he was really never at full-strength. Partly Cowher's
fault for not sitting him and going with Batch more.
Add to that an Offensive line that embarrassed themselves and
a secondary that was laughable and you had disaster from the outset.

RockinDeano wrote:Big Ben didn't take the offseason seriously.


He took his off-season seriously.
His dumb-ass didn't take advice from his coach and peers seriously.
Fucker shoulda swallowed his pride and wore a damn helmet as
soon as the coach made it an issue. But I commend him for fighting
so hard to get back to playing strength. Getting a concussion,
a bad case of pneumonia and having an emergency apendectomy all
within a 4-month time span of the accident made things worse.
Cowher shoulda kept him on the bench and he shoulda admitted
that he wasn't in any form of game-shape for a long time and sat himself.

I don't think they are Super Bowl caliber right now but I think
they will bounce back with at least an 11-5 record, playoff birth and
possibly make it to the Championship game.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:30 pm

Dude,

I respect your sports knowledge, so I won't spike you into the ground like a tent stake but whay the fuck?

15 years..Without checking, how many Super Bowls did Bill get them to? They had a shit load of talent and seemingly lost every year be it to NE or J Ville or whomever.

You know Goddamned well 2 years ago was a gift, but hey, who cares? :evil:

Add to this he was in a shit division.

Many of those years, Tennessee was there and they were shit..Cincinnati was shit as was of course Cleveland(they're always shit)..and baltimore was shit the majority of the time too. They cruised on a formula of 8 guaranteed wins per year and picked up a few here and there out of conference games....then stubbed their collective toes come playoff time. I remember Pittsburgh being 14 point favourites and Bledsoe beat them 27-3 or some shit....the Jacksonville got em.

I admire their fans...some of the best in the NFL along with Denver and KC and of course Green Bay's......sorry Raven fan, eat me, you aren't in the same league as GB, KC or DEN...

Why don't you guys follow Pitt? They have a decent program? Panthers....
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:29 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Dude,

I respect your sports knowledge, so I won't spike you into the ground like a tent stake but whay the fuck?

15 years..Without checking, how many Super Bowls did Bill get them to? They had a shit load of talent and seemingly lost every year be it to NE or J Ville or whomever.

You know Goddamned well 2 years ago was a gift, but hey, who cares? :evil:

Add to this he was in a shit division.

Many of those years, Tennessee was there and they were shit..Cincinnati was shit as was of course Cleveland(they're always shit)..and baltimore was shit the majority of the time too. They cruised on a formula of 8 guaranteed wins per year and picked up a few here and there out of conference games....then stubbed their collective toes come playoff time. I remember Pittsburgh being 14 point favourites and Bledsoe beat them 27-3 or some shit....the Jacksonville got em.


Cowher did have a few years of MAJOR under-achievment from his teams. But how can you lay blame solely on him?
He didn't throw those 2 fucking interceptions in the Dallas SB but he had that team playing well enough to get there.
Cowher's one HUGE GLARING MISTAKE in his tenure that almost got him fired a few years back was his assinine faith in Kordell Stewart as a starter. He stood behind that ass-clown for too long. Then, because ownership wouldn't spend money, we went thru some has beens like-Maddox... But Cowher and his staff had him playing pretty well.

Look, I don't look at NFL coaching greatness just from the aspect of SB wins. I like to look at the bigger picture.
Cowher's career record, including post-season games is 161-99-1. That's not too fucking bad.
Look at the list of coaches that have come up thru the ranks working for Cowher: Marvin Lewis, Ken Whisenhut, Chan Gailey, Mike Mularkey, Russ Grimm, Jim Haslett, Dom Capers...

I think looking at Cowher's overall body of work justifies calling him a "Great HOF-caliber Coach".

Hell, one of the coaches I respect the most in the league is Jeff Fischer.
The guy just knows how to communicate, coach and get the most out of his players...
Personally, I wished like HELL that he would've turned down the extension the
Titan's gave him so that the Steelers could've had a shot at getting him.
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Postby Rick » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:58 pm

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Dude,

I respect your sports knowledge, so I won't spike you into the ground like a tent stake but whay the fuck?

15 years..Without checking, how many Super Bowls did Bill get them to? They had a shit load of talent and seemingly lost every year be it to NE or J Ville or whomever.

You know Goddamned well 2 years ago was a gift, but hey, who cares? :evil:

Add to this he was in a shit division.

Many of those years, Tennessee was there and they were shit..Cincinnati was shit as was of course Cleveland(they're always shit)..and baltimore was shit the majority of the time too. They cruised on a formula of 8 guaranteed wins per year and picked up a few here and there out of conference games....then stubbed their collective toes come playoff time. I remember Pittsburgh being 14 point favourites and Bledsoe beat them 27-3 or some shit....the Jacksonville got em.


Cowher did have a few years of MAJOR under-achievment from his teams. But how can you lay blame solely on him?
He didn't throw those 2 fucking interceptions in the Dallas SB but he had that team playing well enough to get there.
Cowher's one HUGE GLARING MISTAKE in his tenure that almost got him fired a few years back was his assinine faith in Kordell Stewart as a starter. He stood behind that ass-clown for too long. Then, because ownership wouldn't spend money, we went thru some has beens like-Maddox... But Cowher and his staff had him playing pretty well.

Look, I don't look at NFL coaching greatness just from the aspect of SB wins. I like to look at the bigger picture.
Cowher's career record, including post-season games is 161-99-1. That's not too fucking bad.
Look at the list of coaches that have come up thru the ranks working for Cowher: Marvin Lewis, Ken Whisenhut, Chan Gailey, Mike Mularkey, Russ Grimm, Jim Haslett, Dom Capers...

I think looking at Cowher's overall body of work justifies calling him a "Great HOF-caliber Coach".

Hell, one of the coaches I respect the most in the league is Jeff Fischer.
The guy just knows how to communicate, coach and get the most out of his players...
Personally, I wished like HELL that he would've turned down the extension the
Titan's gave him so that the Steelers could've had a shot at getting him.


Do you think Ken Anderson might bring in a new aspect? It seems the Steelers have had several QB's that start strong and then fizzle. Hell I remember Steelers fans praising Maddox, and he did well for a while. But they just can't keep up the momentum.
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:07 pm

Shoot 'em up wrote:Do you think Ken Anderson might bring in a new aspect? It seems the Steelers have had several QB's that start strong and then fizzle. Hell I remember Steelers fans praising Maddox, and he did well for a while. But they just can't keep up the momentum.


Maddox didn't fizzle because of Maddox.
Maddox fizzled because the Steelers got away
from thier bread and butter: Running the ball down people's throats.

I don't know much about Anderson's coaching abilities but, being that he was a pretty
good QB in his day, I think he will be able to help Ben alot.
But the only thing that is gonna help Ben is Ben.
He needs to get the confidence and swagger back that he had in his
first 2 seasons. That's gonna be the hard part.
Physical ailments are one thing but ailments of the mind are
a whole other ball of wax.
I truly believe he's gonna bounce back this coming year.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:44 pm

JeremyP wrote:TOTO did it.


RockinDeano wrote:Toto wasn't caught red handed..



Bobby or Luke? Surely not Luke. I'm a big Lukather fan so if it was Bobby lipping I hope Luke didn't know it was going on...
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:22 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
JeremyP wrote:TOTO did it.


RockinDeano wrote:Toto wasn't caught red handed..



Bobby or Luke? Surely not Luke. I'm a big Lukather fan so if it was Bobby lipping I hope Luke didn't know it was going on...


You would be right.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:24 am

Shoot 'em up wrote:
Do you think Ken Anderson might bring in a new aspect? It seems the Steelers have had several QB's that start strong and then fizzle. Hell I remember Steelers fans praising Maddox, and he did well for a while. But they just can't keep up the momentum.


Pittsburgh hiring a former Cincinnati Bengal?

In the words of Sheriff Buford T Justice, "What the Hell is the world comin' to?"
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:54 am

RockinDeano wrote:Sorry Raven fan, eat me, you aren't in the same league as GB, KC or DEN...


OK, I dare you to come to a Ravens game wearing the opposing team's jersey. :twisted:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:59 am

RockinDeano wrote:
JeremyP wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:



I can hear Andrew running down the hall from his bedroom, bumping into furniture, wiping away the eye boogers, and tripping over the dog, to come slap me for this blaspemous post. He has a huge hard on for Toto.


LOL.
Funny stuff.

A couple of needed vocal overdubs and we're gold. Come on, Neal let it out.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:03 am

NealIsGod wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Sorry Raven fan, eat me, you aren't in the same league as GB, KC or DEN...


OK, I dare you to come to a Ravens game wearing the opposing team's jersey. :twisted:


And that makes you great fans? No, that makes you Raiders east....I will come to Baltimore, proudly donning Seahawk gear or better yet, Bengal gear. Dare me? If I do, you fuckers (AR and yourself), buy my ticket and all the beer this boy can drink.

Deal?

You are going to owe me 50 when Hillary is elected president, so why stop there?
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:07 am

RockinDeano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Sorry Raven fan, eat me, you aren't in the same league as GB, KC or DEN...


OK, I dare you to come to a Ravens game wearing the opposing team's jersey. :twisted:


And that makes you great fans? No, that makes you Raiders east....I will come to Baltimore, proudly donning Seahawk gear or better yet, Bengal gear. Dare me? If I do, you fuckers (AR and yourself), buy my ticket and all the beer this boy can drink.

Deal?

You are going to owe me 50 when Hillary is elected president, so why stop there?


I am glad you are not denying that we made that bet. I will put that $50 toward your ticket. :P

If you wear Bengals gear, you will not make it out of the stadium still wearing it. Not saying that's right, just the way it is.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:42 am

RockinDeano wrote:No, asswipe, I won't nor have I ever made excuses. I am just saying Pittsburgh isn't that good. 8-8 ? Come on? And don't tell me it's because Bettis and his 3.1 ypg wasn't there was the reason.

Cower is overrated IMO, and Big Ben didn't take the offseason seriously.

Fuck em.


Whoa, Deano, Deanooo. Come on.. You can do better than that.

The way the season ended... 8-8 is a helluva finish. We started the season 2-6...games in which ended in the turnover battle with the margin of 7 points or less. In every game that we lost, and no matter how B-A-D we actualy played, and god damnit we had bad ones, we were still in all of the games til the final seconds. (Excluding Baltimore.) At the end of last season, we won the Last 5 out of 7 games and were becomming hot, and were still in the playoff race. If the Stillers win 9 games last year, they are the 6th seed in the AFC playoffs. Big Ben overrated? Please.. Going into last year his record was on the likes of 32-6 as a starter. Even going back to his college days in Miami of Ohio he only lost one game. Overated is a term you can only use when a hater is refered to Big Ben. No matter HOW you look at it, the kids a winner, regardless. From what Ben went through in the offseason is incredible. No matter how bad his play was and the bad luck he had throughout the season, I was just glad to see him alive, and playing the game.

Cowher, no doubt, packed it in this season. He showed no developments, or no adjustments in his team from the Superbowl season. They seemed to be running the same packages, and same gameplan as the 2005 SB team, and in the NFL, it's all about adjustments and comming up with an all new display the next year. Cowhers W-L record in the NFL is incredible. Unfortunatly, he never really had that dominant, and franchise player at QB to ever get him over that AFC championship hump. Too bad he left this season, he finally has a young team to build around to contend for years upon years at a high level. Mike Tomlin is a great fit, and hopefully light the fire under their asses, and play like Pittsburgh Steelers football, the way it's supposed to be played. Hard nosed, and in your face, stuffing it down your throat, no mercy football.
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:47 am

I hate the Steelers, but respect Cowher and Bettis. Tomlin is a puzzling hire, esp. when Whisenhunt was ready to step up.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:03 am

RockinDeano wrote:
Shoot 'em up wrote:
Do you think Ken Anderson might bring in a new aspect? It seems the Steelers have had several QB's that start strong and then fizzle. Hell I remember Steelers fans praising Maddox, and he did well for a while. But they just can't keep up the momentum.


Pittsburgh hiring a former Cincinnati Bengal?

In the words of Sheriff Buford T Justice, "What the Hell is the world comin' to?"


It's simple. It's business. Cowher coached with fuckin special teams for the Clowns before jumping ship to Pittsburgh. That has nothing to do with anything. The point is, Bens mechanics were so piss poor this season, my little nephew would set his feet better. Hopefully working with the likes of Gay ass Palmer, Ken can work with Ben throughout the offseason, and give him the mechanics he so desperatly needs....esp on the long ball.

....Where's AR in all of this? haha
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:04 am

NealIsGod wrote:I hate the Steelers\.


Seconded.

I hate the team, and above all the FANS. People think Eagle fans are bad Stillas lovers are obnoxious with a capital "J."

hell, look no further than H@kk. :P
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:05 am

Neal sends along his appreciation of the diversion to the NFL in this thread. :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:08 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I hate the Steelers\.


Seconded.

I hate the team, and above all the FANS. People think Eagle fans are bad Stillas lovers are obnoxious with a capital "J."

hell, look no further than H@kk. :P


Why, because we sell of every stadium we go to? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:15 am

Rest my case.
I don't care if JSS IS on your side.


It's the fucking NFL ALL these stadiums sell out mostly every week.
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:17 am

I am starting to experience withdrawal. Gotta turn on NFL Network tonight.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:17 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Rest my case.
I don't care if JSS IS on your side.


It's the fucking NFL ALL these stadiums sell out mostly every week.


you are speaking of Texas Stadium ,, right ,, :? UGH..
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Postby AR » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:18 am

I still don't understand this tape thing. Why didn't they use CD's?
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:20 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Rest my case.
I don't care if JSS IS on your side.


It's the fucking NFL ALL these stadiums sell out mostly every week.


No Shit, you old bag-O-dicks :lol:

But LOOK at the sell-out crowds when the Black&Gold are on the road...

Terrible towels and Black&Gold colors DOMINATING the home team's colors...
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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:24 am

AR, time to post "the pic"... you know which one I mean?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:29 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Rest my case.
I don't care if JSS IS on your side.


It's the fucking NFL ALL these stadiums sell out mostly every week.


No Shit, you old bag-O-dicks :lol:

But LOOK at the sell-out crowds when the Black&Gold are on the road...

Terrible towels and Black&Gold colors DOMINATING the home team's colors...
Steeler Nation is EVERYWHERE!!!



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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Rest my case.
I don't care if JSS IS on your side.


It's the fucking NFL ALL these stadiums sell out mostly every week.


Um, no dude.

These places DO NOT sell out...

SF
HOU
JVL
CAR
TEN
ATL
NO
OAK
DET
TB
CLE
AZ


Now, I can name you 20 colleges that can out attendence NFL teams.

Tennessee 107, 000 per game for Shits sake
OSU
USC
ND
Florida
FSU
MICH
Clemson
LSU
Penn St
Tex
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Alabama
Auburn
Arkansas
Washington
Mich St
Wisconsin
Iowa

13, the NFL is not as good a product as the NCAA.

Again, Neals sends his thanks for the diversion.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:31 am

One phrase and comment says it all, made by multiple Head Coaches of the enemy.

"Do NOT, sell your tickets...to Steeler fans"

lmao :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:32 am

I said "FOR THE MOST PART" RockNDeano.


Neal, release the Generations dvd, bring SA back to add some overdubs if need be.
The Genearations material rocks and the band was musically tight.
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Postby *Laura » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:36 am

Red13JoePa wrote:


Neal, release the Generations dvd, bring SA back to add some overdubs if need be.


:lol: :lol: You ARE kidding,right???? :shock: ................ :lol: :lol:
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