Where is Steve Augeri and is he better??

[NealIsGod]

After listening to each song, Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one)

Yeah, that's really the only way to describe that performance. The first clue that Soto could pull off his new gig.

[pdsidd]

hi gang, I wanted to ask this question as I really want to know. I for one blame the ENTIRE Journey organization for the fukkin B.S. that was "Tape Gate".

The way the acted was B.S. Nothing against JSS I think he's great , he's different, not as melodic as Augeri but strong singer and great showman. I luved Soul SIkUs and RockStar Sntk (both his and steelheart dudes songs) and I liked the show I saw in late July last year but...

I am still an Augeri Fan. I know Rockin' Deano isn't and many arent and this site and board is VERY pro-JSS and even more so pro PErry but, for me I liked the albums SA sang on and most of the songs better than the last 2 Perry cd's and I just wanted to know as a fan if anyone has any knowledge if he's better, singing again, performing or what have you!

I luv the few songs I heard from the debut of Tall Stories and I hope " Stevie" is alive and well and will be putting out some music soon.

Anything on MR. Augeri??



c.m.

Sorry , but what the hell do you mean when you say Jeff isnt as melodic as Augeri!? Get your ears checked.

If you really think that this site is pro-Soto, then why would you even ask us about auggie?
This site isnt about Pro-Soto or Anti-Augeri,,,, This site is PRO-MUSIC and ANTI-CHEATING!!

Right...and if this site IS "anti cheating", then why the hell aren't you boycoting the whole band? It's really amazing to me the way some seem to put the whole tape gate thing at Steve A's feet...what- the rest of the band just didn't know? They were in the dark, while Steve A and the sound guys covertly pulled off this elaborate charade? Hardly...if you're gonna call yourself anti cheating, then spread blame all the way around.
I don't know...I've kept quiet and read what folks have posted over the past 12 months or so on this, and the thing that bothers me is more than anything is that I feel the band AND many of the fans pushed Augeri under the bus when this thing happened. Hell, the guy was in a bind, and was trying to keep his gig. Could any of us claim to have so much integrity that we wouldn't do the same thing if confronted with that dilemma? I don't know...I'd like to think I wouldn't but I can't swear to it, and if you're honest, I think you'd agree. But above all, to say that the rest of the organization was blameless in all of this is naive and more than a bit unfair. None of this went without the approval of Neal and Jon, you can bet your ass on that. And yet strangely, I 've never heard anyone calling for their heads.

I don't mean to sound inflamatory. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm really just posing some questions. Hell, I like the band better with Soto, and I think when they do get around to recording again, it's gonna rock my ass off- much more so than any of their post-Perry work.
But what the hell do I know? I still think Perry's gonna come back before it's all said and done...

Hey fella, you're pushing water uphill trying to defend Augeri or criticise JSS on here. There's probably a lot of folk reading your post who also share your view on JSS and see him as being more 'metal' than 'melodic' but you can't voice it here and not expect to get ripped to pieces for expressing your view. Just need to accept the change has happened and move on - I saw JSS last night with Journey and he wasn't bad at all, got shown up a bit when Deeno sang but acquitted himself well overall.

[Marc S]

When you could actually hear Soto. Sound was shite.

[ohsherrie]

Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it).

Me too Deb, go figure. I picked up a sound in Coming Home(not sure if it was melody or voice)that made me think of the remix of If You Need Me Call Me that Steve did for the EPs for the FTLOSM tour.

When you listen to the heart and soul of the voice rather than just the surface of it, I think Jeff is really more like Perry than Augeri ever was. That's not to say he sounds like Perry, he just has the same soulful resonance to his voice. Augeri never had that. He never sounded like Perry to me at all.

[pdsidd]

When you could actually hear Soto. Sound was shite.

Wasn't too bad where we were but you got the impression the rig wasn't big enough and they were pushing it too much - some serious bassy feedback at one point when Neal was doing a solo early on. Shame that.

[ohsherrie]

got shown up a bit when Deeno sang but acquitted himself well overall.

Oh, you must be one of those people who only listen to the surface and the high notes and don't care about the heart and soul of the music. I'm really sorry that you can't hear beyond that. Maybe you will someday.

[larryfromnextdoor]

i cant believe how everyones saying the sound was bad,, that just stinks,,, the band finally makes their way overseas and the sound is bad.. very disapointing for our English bros and sis'..

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

Actually just got the World Play SS cd about a week ago and was surprised by the mix on that cd, I was expecting most of it to be much heavier than it was. After listening to each song, Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it). Other favs are Praise, Highest Ground and My Sanctuary.

All I have seen of Jeff's early metal/Yngwie stuff is a vid or 2 on youtube, wasn't into it. But after discovering his past work, it really isn't that big a part. Discovering all this past work kinda makes me sad, don't get me wrong........I'm happy as hell that he is fronting Journey now and doing a great job, but damn I'm just getting into all this Solo, Queen, Talisman (or as Behshad would call it becoming "Talismanized")......where the hell have I been for the last 10 years.

word, sistah. where have we been.

no worries!! we got here as fast as we could!!!! and we aren't leaving!! but not being able to see Talisman live is not a good thing.

Soul Goes On is a testament to Jeff's vocal control. it's an amazing example of his talent.

oh, just a note-my friend just called me from the show--DSB was blasting!! it sounded pretty freakin melodic to me. jmho. sounds like they are having a great time!! Don't you know Jeff is gonna just put on all the schmooze after this discussion. hehe.

[treetopovskaya]

Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it).

Me too Deb, go figure. I picked up a sound in Coming Home(not sure if it was melody or voice)that made me think of the remix of If You Need Me Call Me that Steve did for the EPs for the FTLOSM tour.

When you listen to the heart and soul of the voice rather than just the surface of it, I think Jeff is really more like Perry than Augeri ever was. That's not to say he sounds like Perry, he just has the same soulful resonance to his voice. Augeri never had that. He never sounded like Perry to me at all.

i'm hearing that too sherrie! }=C)

when jss sings "never missed something, someone so much..." it's like what deb said... jeff is channeling steve perry. hope journey re-records this song. }=C))

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it).

Me too Deb, go figure. I picked up a sound in Coming Home(not sure if it was melody or voice)that made me think of the remix of If You Need Me Call Me that Steve did for the EPs for the FTLOSM tour.

When you listen to the heart and soul of the voice rather than just the surface of it, I think Jeff is really more like Perry than Augeri ever was. That's not to say he sounds like Perry, he just has the same soulful resonance to his voice. Augeri never had that. He never sounded like Perry to me at all.

i'm hearing that too sherrie! }=C)

when jss sings "never missed something, someone so much..." it's like what deb said... jeff is channeling steve perry. hope journey re-records this song. }=C))

that's funny about channeling SP. When I first got SS, I didn't know Jeff. when I heard Coming Home, I thought he was making fun of SP OR it was a tribute song. (I was kinda pouty--messing with SP? oh heck no!) I have since found out that this is what Jeff sounds like. Melodic and all..

[****]

Dear,

I've listened to a lot of boots and also went to the Indy show with JSS singing lead for Journey so I've heard = it live. Our opinions my disagree but please don't consider me closed minded or uneducated ... I'm neither.

Cheers,

Aaron

Mac,

I love you dearly and your board but I have to disagree with your comment. JSS is a great guy, great stage personality and has a powerful voice for sure. But, when you use the word melodic, I'd argue your point. A melodic vocalist is someone whom has a shitload of range as a starting point but also has a very smooth delivery in their vocal content. The following are melodic vocalist in my opinion that come to mind:

Steve Perry
Hugo Valenti
Kevin Chalfant
Lou Graham
Brad Delp
Graham Bonnett
Sammy Hagar

In my view, JSS fits more of the metal/hard rock genre of vocalist which would include:

Ozzy Osbourne
Rob Halford
Jim Hetfield
Etc.

I agree with JSS being a good rock vocalist, but in my view, JSS being a melodic rock style of vocalist is a stretch at best. If you think Journey still sounds like Journey then you won't agree with my opinion.

Now as far as Augeri is concerned, I believe Arrival is a damn good record, better than ROR or TBF because it has some good rock songs on it and doesn't come across as an adult contemporary, gay CD. Generations is a hog podge of crap in my view with no consistent vocals that makes it a turd in my opinion as it does not fit the AOR genre for record with multiple lead vocalist. We'll see what any new Journey music brings to the equation.

Now let the bashing begin,

Aaron

I am still an Augeri Fan. I know Rockin' Deano isn't and many arent and this site and board is VERY pro-JSS and even more so pro PErry but, for me I liked the albums SA sang on and most of the songs better than the last 2 Perry cd's and I just wanted to know as a fan if anyone has any knowledge if he's better, singing again, performing or what have you!

This is a pro JOURNEY board...that includes appreciation for what Steve Augeri brough to the band during his tenure. Arrival is an amzing record...love it.
I'm sure there will be news soon.

As for Jeff not being as melodic a vocalist - WOWSERS! You need to do some research into JSS my friend. Soul and melody oozing from every pore.

Ok Sammy Hagar and melodic sounding? no..

but if you go and listen to Jeff's music - youi will know he does absolutely have a melodic voice. Listen to his essential ballads. Then make your determination.

Nope, never said (or thought) you were close minded. Just wanted to make sure you had heard some of his other stuff.

[ohsherrie]

i'm hearing that too sherrie! }=C)

when jss sings "never missed something, someone so much..." it's like what deb said... jeff is channeling steve perry. hope journey re-records this song. }=C))

I'm glad it's not just me Tree. I was afraid someone would say I was just a crazy loon. The sound is in there, and when I have time to listen to both songs back to back maybe I can sort it out. I love the song, it's a great example of why Jeff is the right singer for Journey.

[Andrew]

For the record. I think Jeff is one of the best, most versatile, melodic and soulful rock singers there is in the business.

Just throwing that out there...my opinion, for whatever it is worth

[ohsherrie]

It's worth a lot boss, and I agree with you completely about Jeff. I'm just sorry it took so long for me to get to hear him.

[Rick]

PLEASE Andrew. This board has never been appreciative of Augeri and has a well known reputation for rumor-starting and Augeri hating. It has CONSISTENTLY thrashed Augeri at every chance. Started pure rumor that is STILL unproven. And thus, I would also say it is also not really pro-Journey. It HAS proven to be pro-JSS. I like JSS AND I think it was a good decision on the band's part to move on as Augeri's voice was toast after 8 years. I just think if you look at this MESSAGE BOARD (NOT you or your website information which has always been very fair and absolutely PRO-Journey) overall and you are being TRULY honest, it is far from pro-Journey and very far from appreciative of Augeri's 8 years with the band. Let's be honest.....

100% wrong, again.

Go research the last 4 years. Everyone here, save the loons, were ALL supportive of Steve Augeri, and I hasten to add I was more vocal in support of SA than anyone here.


Try again, loser. Crying about what's happened in the past will not change things. Get a life.

You get a life you loser piece of shit. I'm not crying about what's happened in the past. Just adding some REALITY and HONESTY to this thread. This site has been far from PRO-Augeri. GET A CLUE.

Shit Stirring Troll!

Rockin Deano Sycophant

You can go piss up a well rope Daza. I called the idiot a troll because all he does is come to argue. You seem to be a lot like him. I don't team up with anyone. I speak my mind on whatever the subject is. You don't like it? I couldn't care less.

[X factor]

For the record. I think Jeff is one of the best, most versatile, melodic and soulful rock singers there is in the business.

Just throwing that out there...my opinion, for whatever it is worth

Right on, Drew. He's an awesome performer, and I , for one, think it's a tragedy that the dude wasn't a star 15 years ago. He can blow the doors off 90% of the dudes in this biz, and I knew that when I hard him with Yngwie!
I wasn't suggesting last night that I don't like Jeff or that Steve A was a superior singer. Far from it!! I think Steve was a capable replacement,but imho he never had Jeff's presence or chops. I just think that the guy got a raw deal, and to mis-quote the bard, "That is the opinion that fire cannot melt from me"... Perhaps many of you have taken the rest of the band to task on the boards previously and I've missed it (having a two year old desperately cuts into my casual surfing time)... Oh well...
I'm just surprised that it took me nearly 6 months to incur the wrath of Deano...

[kbo]

SNOOOOOZER....

I'm bored now that all the hoopla is over...

I'm bored with the new lineup a well... I've seen them 5 times over the past 7 years and this summer with JSS was by far the worst.. That sounds bad and isn't a jab at JSS but more to the entire band.

Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer and frontman but does not fit JOURNEY, IMHO...

The best thing Journey can do to salvage their fan base is to bring Steve Perry back OR change the band name and put JOURNEY to rest..

To all the folks who can't take an honest opinion - start your bashing..

[Rick]

SNOOOOOZER....

I'm bored now that all the hoopla is over...

I'm bored with the new lineup a well... I've seen them 5 times over the past 7 years and this summer with JSS was by far the worst.. That sounds bad and isn't a jab at JSS but more to the entire band.

Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer and frontman but does not fit JOURNEY, IMHO...

The best thing Journey can do to salvage their fan base is to bring Steve Perry back OR change the band name and put JOURNEY to rest..

To all the folks who can't take an honest opinion - start your bashing..

I for one think they are going to go gang busters with JSS and the fans will be there. Just give them a chance to put out a new album and see what you think then.

[7 Wishes]

"I'm bored now that all the hoopla is over...

I'm bored with the new lineup a well... I've seen them 5 times over the past 7 years and this summer with JSS was by far the worst.. That sounds bad and isn't a jab at JSS but more to the entire band.

Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer and frontman but does not fit JOURNEY, IMHO...

The best thing Journey can do to salvage their fan base is to bring Steve Perry back OR change the band name and put JOURNEY to rest..

To all the folks who can't take an honest opinion - start your bashing."

Um.....OK. You're definitely in the minority there, pal. Have fun at your flock of seagulls concert.

[ohsherrie]

I for one think they are going to go gang busters with JSS and the fans will be there. Just give them a chance to put out a new album and see what you think then.

And there ya go!

[Deb]

Actually just got the World Play SS cd about a week ago and was surprised by the mix on that cd, I was expecting most of it to be much heavier than it was. After listening to each song, Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it). Other favs are Praise, Highest Ground and My Sanctuary.

All I have seen of Jeff's early metal/Yngwie stuff is a vid or 2 on youtube, wasn't into it. But after discovering his past work, it really isn't that big a part. Discovering all this past work kinda makes me sad, don't get me wrong........I'm happy as hell that he is fronting Journey now and doing a great job, but damn I'm just getting into all this Solo, Queen, Talisman (or as Behshad would call it becoming "Talismanized")......where the hell have I been for the last 10 years.

word, sistah. where have we been.

no worries!! we got here as fast as we could!!!! and we aren't leaving!! but not being able to see Talisman live is not a good thing.

Oh oh......Debbie squared! That's gotta spell trouble.

[Deb]

Coming Home was an instant fav (I may be biased, cuz I thought Jeff was totally channelling Perry on that one, loved it).

Me too Deb, go figure.

Us? Thinking with the same brain cell again? Can't be!

[Mark H]

i cant believe how everyones saying the sound was bad,, that just stinks,,, the band finally makes their way overseas and the sound is bad.. very disapointing for our English bros and sis'..

Been to 4 of the UK shows this tour and the sound at Nottingham was poor at times, first half of the show Jeff and Neal were too low in the mix and Ross too loud. But by about half way it got a lot better. I think a lot depends where you're standing.

Newcastle and Sheffield were fine, and Manchester was crystal clear. It always gets a little muddy at Manchester in the rear stalls under the balcony, but from my position 3rd row centre the sound was perfect - a truely great show

[The Fly]

There is a thread over at the General Forum of BT, by someone who did a phone interview with Neal and Ross, which will be in the UK magazine called Classic Rock. Neal made mention that he did speak with Augeri, and Augeri told Neal that he is 50% back vocally.

Here is the link if you want to read the thread.

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/032934.html

You are actually going to believe what Neal said? lol... Steve is fine and can sing just fine now. I am sure we will all see when he releases his new CD.

[The Fly]

SNOOOOOZER....

I'm bored now that all the hoopla is over...

I'm bored with the new lineup a well... I've seen them 5 times over the past 7 years and this summer with JSS was by far the worst.. That sounds bad and isn't a jab at JSS but more to the entire band.

Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer and frontman but does not fit JOURNEY, IMHO...

The best thing Journey can do to salvage their fan base is to bring Steve Perry back OR change the band name and put JOURNEY to rest..

To all the folks who can't take an honest opinion - start your bashing..

No he's not the only one that feels that way. I hear some people are walking out of concerts. You people here are so pro JSS that you only see and hear what you want to hear.

[larryfromnextdoor]

here ya go..

http://www.journeyforums.com/

[The Fly]

Bring yourself and a guitarist and I'll go head to head with you with my guitarist, deal?

Uh, you wanna go up against JSS and Neal?

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

What are you smoking to think these people are Gods? Jeeeez People. Why do you all get your panties in a wad when everyone doesn't agree with you? I have not seen anyone say JSS is not a great singer. Just because some of us might not agree he's a good fit for this band doesn't mean you have to bash...

Have a wonderful day!!

[NealIsGod]

Bring yourself and a guitarist and I'll go head to head with you with my guitarist, deal?

Uh, you wanna go up against JSS and Neal?

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

What are you smoking to think these people are Gods? Jeeeez People. Why do you all get your panties in a wad when everyone doesn't agree with you? I have not seen anyone say JSS is not a great singer. Just because some of us might not agree he's a good fit for this band doesn't mean you have to bash...

Have a wonderful day!!

You, too, troll.

[Deb]

SNOOOOOZER....

I'm bored now that all the hoopla is over...

I'm bored with the new lineup a well... I've seen them 5 times over the past 7 years and this summer with JSS was by far the worst.. That sounds bad and isn't a jab at JSS but more to the entire band.

Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer and frontman but does not fit JOURNEY, IMHO...

The best thing Journey can do to salvage their fan base is to bring Steve Perry back OR change the band name and put JOURNEY to rest..

To all the folks who can't take an honest opinion - start your bashing..

No he's not the only one that feels that way. I hear some people are walking out of concerts. You people here are so pro JSS that you only see and hear what you want to hear.

You say it like it's a bad thing? I fully admit to being very pro Perry/pro JSS, because I DO like what I see and hear.........it's really that simple. And I haven't, nor will I, bash anybody if they don't like SP or JSS. There seems to be a message board for everybody out there, like-minded people tend to congregate with other like-minded people.

[Deb]

Bring yourself and a guitarist and I'll go head to head with you with my guitarist, deal?

Uh, you wanna go up against JSS and Neal?

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

What are you smoking to think these people are Gods? Jeeeez People. Why do you all get your panties in a wad when everyone doesn't agree with you? I have not seen anyone say JSS is not a great singer. Just because some of us might not agree he's a good fit for this band doesn't mean you have to bash...

Have a wonderful day!!

NIG wears panties???