Hunsicker kicks ass again...FRONTIERS rocks!

[Rockindeano]

I love ED and all, but just despise KISS. Just don't get the act at all.

[AR]

I love ED and all, but just despise KISS. Just don't get the act at all.

That is King Diamond, not Kiss.

[Rockindeano]

I love ED and all, but just despise KISS. Just don't get the act at all.

That is King Diamond, not Kiss.

What's the Difference?

[AR]

I love ED and all, but just despise KISS. Just don't get the act at all.

That is King Diamond, not Kiss.

What's the Difference?

Way different kind of metal. I do know that Jeremey is a huge King Diamond fan. Kiss is just hard rock. King Diamond is sort of a goth metal thing. They both just happen to wear makeup. Kiss actually sued King Diamond over it.

[Rockindeano]

I was being obviously sarcastic, but you went for it Mr Cum guy thingy dude.

Just fuckin with you Baltimore Buddy.

[stevew2]

jeremey,, i can absolutely guarantee you that you give more to a single performance than cain did for his entire last musical cd effort.. that faithfully was weak , dont care how far it went up on the old peoples chart.. GREAT JOB... and to barry ,, and the band.. i agree with chocolate ,, your a threat.. hey maybe it was perry that was upset with you and would not sign ,, that dude is so funny that way...

I agree with Larry on this one. You kick Frigas, and Augeri"s and anyone"s ass, ten fold.on this song,especially the improv. at the end.Just as good as Perry in 83. I dont see why you would be a threat,other than You guys sound more like the real "deal' than the real "deal".You ve promoted the true sound of Journey,It would not make good business sense, to not let you guys perfom at Orlando. Of course Journeys management team is not known for having any good sense,business or otherwise.Look what happened this last two years.They should just book Frontiers anyway. Why in the fuck should you have to get permission from a band to play another bands tunes from 20,30 years ago.The was stupid to begin with.i hope you guys get the gig. You make Friga sound like a cat stuck under a big bus.

[NealIsGod]

No, not whatever. You need to call up Azoff, Friga whomever, and get an ironclad answer as to why they object to this. If Bruce can say yes, what fucking reason does Azoff have?

I won't reprint the whole email here, but basically they can be quoted as saying they can't get into the specifics of who or why, but the answer was a non-negotiable NO.

It's pretty obvious what the reason is. If you offered 50% of your take to the band, you would receive a letter with permission to play. They don't like seeing others profiting off of their music. Even if it does result in people being turned on to Journey. Short sighted, yes.

[Jeremey]

It's pretty obvious what the reason is. If you offered 50% of your take to the band, you would receive a letter with permission to play. They don't like seeing others profiting off of their music. Even if it does result in people being turned on to Journey. Short sighted, yes.

The band gets their 8.5% just like every other band, per statutory rates set by the US Government - Whether it's Epcot or Santa Fe Cafe, all venues pay to the performing rights organizations, and Journey gets paid every time we play.

This nonsense about bands "profiting" off of other band's hard work really chaps my ass. Hard work? Talk to me about hard work after working 2 weeks straight (with last weekend spent in sales conferences in Houston), 50 hours a week, working until midnight the night before to work out a new and creative setlist that people haven't heard before, getting on the road at noon Saturday, hauling and loading in all your equipment, filling your body full of medicine because it's fucking March in North Carolina and the pollen count is over 50,000, performing for nearly 3 hours, tearing everything down, loading back up a trailer at 3 in the morning, getting home the next afternoon just in time to sit in front of the computer and update a website, upload 2.5 hours of audio & photos, handle all the accounting for the weekend, and get in bed at midnight, just to be here in my office at 7 AM again this morning. All of this with pregnant wife in tow, who is taking pictures from the balcony and falling asleep in the greenroom because I haul her around half of the country to "profit" from someone else's hard work. All for about two bills.

And what does Journey get? Besides their 8.5%? They get a band travelling the highways of the eastern US that is performing their music faithfully and in the spirit of the way it was originally presented, without clown makeup and fake afro wigs, but honestly and respectfully - And people who would not have otherwise been able to spend $75 the last time Journey came to town can come out and see an amazing 2.5 hour LIVE show for the price of a movie ticket, then text message and email and blog to their friends about how great JOURNEY is, because they saw this band this past weekend and actually recognized nearly every song they played - And oh yeah, where did that Greatest Hits CD go, because I might have to run down to Wal Mart and pick up another one.

I'd say it's a pretty fair deal, and I don't know why Journey isn't on board. Not to pile on you, NIG, but I just always like to clarify whenever the concept of "profiting" comes around....

[Michael Leigh]

No, not whatever. You need to call up Azoff, Friga whomever, and get an ironclad answer as to why they object to this. If Bruce can say yes, what fucking reason does Azoff have?

I won't reprint the whole email here, but basically they can be quoted as saying they can't get into the specifics of who or why, but the answer was a non-negotiable NO.

And the answer came about 3 hours after I contacted Baruck. I'm not shouldering the whole blame on Journey, because anything that goes through Azoff concerning Journey may as well go through Lee Phillips first before they even look at it, and you know how that goes...

Anyway, nothing in life is easy, Disney didn't bat an eye and moved to the next band down the list (I believe a DOORS tribute, if you can believe that the Doors would agree to sign a letter but Journey would not)?! The letter would not have prevented or stood in the way of us performing, legally, but Disney is so paranoid about their own trademarks (mouse ears, etc) that they wouldn't move forward without it.

J,
We kind of went through some of the same shit.
About 3 years ago we got a ceist and deceist order from BMI.
They wanted several hundred thousand dollars in compensation, because we had/have 1 minute soundclips on our webpage. They claimed that the soundclips,would prevent people from purchasing the original artists versions of the tunes we had posted. We contacted our attorney, and reached a settlement and now have to be a member of BMI,with their logo affixed to our page,and also a yearly fee we have to pay. We weren't charging anything for the clips and had/have them available for free.

[Jeremey]

J,
We kind of went through some of the same shit.
About 3 years ago we got a ceist and deceist order from BMI.
They wanted several hundred thousand dollars in compensation, because we had/have 1 minute soundclips on our webpage. They claimed that the soundclips,would prevent people from purchasing the original artists versions of the tunes we had posted. We contacted our attorney, and reached a settlement and now have to be a member of BMI,with their logo affixed to our page,and also a yearly fee we have to pay. We weren't charging anything for the clips and had/have them available for free.

Another example of people using their money to try to push people around with less money. 1 minute audio clips are completely within fair use. The fact that it wasn't the artist but the PRO to me says they PRO was doing some grandstanding. There's lots of examples of this....Someone comes to you with a questionable legal issue, but has lots of lawyers and money to back it up. So what are you going to do - Spend thousands on your own lawyers, or pony up what they want to make them go away, regardless if it's right or not.

[NealIsGod]

You guys must really love what you do to put up with all of that stuff. I can't imagine going through all of that unless I was making a fortune.

I should have quoted "profiting", J. I don't see it that way, but I think that is how the original artists do. I look at it more as a labor of love that you guys sacrifice so much for their music. They should be paying you and helping you get gigs. All you do is promote Journey's music and represent them incredibly well.

[Moon Beam]

It's called greed plain and simple in my books.
I hope it never stops you from doing what you obviously love.
Jeremey and Micheal I would love to see what your bands have
to offer in person so do me a favour and hit Ontario
next time you fellas take to the highway.

[ohsherrie]

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

[donnaplease]

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

You know, I've given this a lot of thought since we talked to Jeremey about it in Roanoke. My totally cynical speculation is this: Journey has a new kick-ass lead singer (get 'em Jeff!!!). Perhaps certain veteran members of Journey resent the fact that their contributions to the success of this band are often overlooked because of 'the Voice', and would love nothing more than for him to just "Go Away, go away...". As long as there's someone out there with the amazing talent that Jeremey and the boys have, it makes it much more difficult to forget about Steve Perry. Anyone that has ever, and I do mean EVER, heard Frontiers would have to agree that they do nothing but honor this band.

OK, there it is...fire away!

[Rick]

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

You know, I've given this a lot of thought since we talked to Jeremey about it in Roanoke. My totally cynical speculation is this: Journey has a new kick-ass lead singer (get 'em Jeff!!!). Perhaps certain veteran members of Journey resent the fact that their contributions to the success of this band are often overlooked because of 'the Voice', and would love nothing more than for him to just "Go Away, go away...". As long as there's someone out there with the amazing talent that Jeremey and the boys have, it makes it much more difficult to forget about Steve Perry. Anyone that has ever, and I do mean EVER, heard Frontiers would have to agree that they do nothing but honor this band.

OK, there it is...fire away!

You just graduated lady. Studio Engineer! As for your point here.... Hell I dunno. I don't think anyone will ever forget Perry. If they are worried about that, they'll have to worry forever.

[Saint John]

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

You know, I've given this a lot of thought since we talked to Jeremey about it in Roanoke. My totally cynical speculation is this: Journey has a new kick-ass lead singer (get 'em Jeff!!!). Perhaps certain veteran members of Journey resent the fact that their contributions to the success of this band are often overlooked because of 'the Voice', and would love nothing more than for him to just "Go Away, go away...". As long as there's someone out there with the amazing talent that Jeremey and the boys have, it makes it much more difficult to forget about Steve Perry. Anyone that has ever, and I do mean EVER, heard Frontiers would have to agree that they do nothing but honor this band.

OK, there it is...fire away!

Fire away my ass! You made a GREAT point. I agree, that quite possibly COULD be the reason. Awesome post.

[Aaron]

Holy shit! You might be on to something there.

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

[donnaplease]

You just graduated lady. Studio Engineer! As for your point here.... Hell I dunno. I don't think anyone will ever forget Perry. If they are worried about that, they'll have to worry forever.

Hey, that's really cool!!! As long as I'm never "CERTIFIABLY INSANE" I'll be alright!!!

[ohsherrie]

I can't help but wonder if they would be so touchy about the tribute bands if Perry was still with them. I know this isn't going to be popular thoery with some people, but I mean no disrespect to Journey in this and it makes sense to me.

We just recently had a lot of Journey fans saying that Journey was no more than a tribute band now. I don't know why they felt that way now and not back in '98, but for some reason they did. I and a lot of other people did feel that way back in '98 and were pretty vocal about it.

In a way, Steve Perry is part of Journey's trademark. They no longer have that trademark and Jeremey comes a lot closer to that specific vocal trademark sound than Augeri or Jeff. Maybe they're afraid people who only want to hear those trademark vocals will go see Jeremey(or Hugo for that matter) rather than see a Journey that doesn't come as close to that sound.

Just a thought.


Hey, Jeremey, like the new pants.

You know, I've given this a lot of thought since we talked to Jeremey about it in Roanoke. My totally cynical speculation is this: Journey has a new kick-ass lead singer (get 'em Jeff!!!). Perhaps certain veteran members of Journey resent the fact that their contributions to the success of this band are often overlooked because of 'the Voice', and would love nothing more than for him to just "Go Away, go away...". As long as there's someone out there with the amazing talent that Jeremey and the boys have, it makes it much more difficult to forget about Steve Perry. Anyone that has ever, and I do mean EVER, heard Frontiers would have to agree that they do nothing but honor this band.

OK, there it is...fire away!

Good point Donna. If either of our theories, or any combination of the two, is anywhere near the truth though, it's just more reason for them to take advantage of their great new frontman's differences by getting some new music out there rather than continuing to rely on the catalog. As long as they are only known for the classics it doesn't matter whether it's Jeff or Jeremey singing them, they will always be associated with Perry.

[donnaplease]

You know, I've given this a lot of thought since we talked to Jeremey about it in Roanoke. My totally cynical speculation is this: Journey has a new kick-ass lead singer (get 'em Jeff!!!). Perhaps certain veteran members of Journey resent the fact that their contributions to the success of this band are often overlooked because of 'the Voice', and would love nothing more than for him to just "Go Away, go away...". As long as there's someone out there with the amazing talent that Jeremey and the boys have, it makes it much more difficult to forget about Steve Perry. Anyone that has ever, and I do mean EVER, heard Frontiers would have to agree that they do nothing but honor this band.

OK, there it is...fire away!

Fire away my ass! You made a GREAT point. I agree, that quite possibly COULD be the reason. Awesome post.

Thanks, SJ. I don't want to believe it, but I do think it is in the realm of possibility. Frontiers would KICK ASS at Epcot!!