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Postby Melissa » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:21 am

I agree Kim, the concern shown by so many people is amazing. I did pray for her too, despite my doubt.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:29 am

Kimterp wrote:
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msmercury01 wrote:......... Second of all, yes, Victoria was involved in the hoax too.
Nothing more to be said. Teri


Thanks for clearing that up. It was puzzling me.
What I can't understand is.....WHY????
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I think that the attention and sympathy were a big part of it. We were all calling, and emailing, and texting constantly to make sure she was ok. Then obviously they knew that we would all want to send something. Flowers, CD's, etc. He (the person that started this) even asked for a necklace that she has always wanted but then said she was a very modest person and didn't like expensive things. This person knew that people were planning care packages, and shit like that. Thats what I think it was for - it was all about the attention and the gifts / money. I had already bought books, a few CD's, and shit ready to send to her, it just needed to be wrapped.

But in all honesty, I would do it again. I would pray, and be concerned, and want updates on a person that I thought went thru this. I am much more impressed with the generosity of the people on MR, JSS Forums and the Annex. And is what I will take away from this - how thoroughly fortunate I feel to be apart of this group of caring individuals.


exactly. perfectly stated. I will not hesitate to love someone tomorrow, full out, 150%, just because someone else hurt me yesterday. I may, however, be cautious about cash donations. :D
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Postby Tom Jrnyfn » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:32 am

Does anyone actually know these people?

Something tells me another shoe is going to drop.
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Postby SteveForever » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:38 am

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exactly. perfectly stated. I will not hesitate to love someone tomorrow, full out, 150%, just because someone else hurt me yesterday. I may, however, be cautious about cash donations. :D


Wonderful philosophy!!! love these words Girl Like You!!!
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Postby CatEyes » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:03 am

Never be afraid to love or pray for anyone .... especially those who need it most.

Now for the other stuff, Karma can be a bitch ...... and is much better at it than anyone here.

It'll happen.

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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:05 am

CatEyes wrote:Never be afraid to love or pray for anyone .... especially those who need it most.

Now for the other stuff, Karma can be a bitch ...... and is much better at it than anyone here.

It'll happen.

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exactly. she's probably in worse shape NOW! and needs prayer obviously worse than we thought. Jesus soften her/their hearts.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:21 am

CatEyes wrote:Never be afraid to love or pray for anyone .... especially those who need it most.

Now for the other stuff, Karma can be a bitch ...... and is much better at it than anyone here.

It'll happen.

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And there ya go. :wink:
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Postby Deb » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:53 pm

JSS wrote:Thanks one & all for the support...it has been grating on me all night & even the sweet solace of knocking back a few doesn't help me forget this ridiculous event bestowed onto all of us. i do appreciate the many words & this will not change who I am regardless of the outcome.


Sure hope not, cuz we like ya just the way you are! :D 8)
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:44 pm

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JSS wrote:Thanks one & all for the support...it has been grating on me all night & even the sweet solace of knocking back a few doesn't help me forget this ridiculous event bestowed onto all of us. i do appreciate the many words & this will not change who I am regardless of the outcome.


Sure hope not, cuz we like ya just the way you are! :D 8)


AMEN to that! 8) 8) 8)
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Postby *Laura » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:26 pm

How sad to find out that a JSS/Journey fan can be capable of such a horrible prank... :(
I haven't even tried to read between the lines of the whole story.When someone is in danger I go "blind".
Just like some of you,I was ready to contact that Ralph guy and send something to her.

Now I feel sorry for Victoria,but I'm not upset that we wanted to help her.
Our prayers and concerns were honest,and I'm sure we would do it again if someone would ask for help.

This situation just showed how many wonderful people are behind the screens and how fast they can become just like a family to someone in need of help.

I'm again impressed by Jeff's class...He is very different from the vast majority of the celebrities,and you all know what I mean. :)
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Postby StevePerryHair » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:38 am

Shania wrote:How sad to find out that a JSS/Journey fan can be capable of such a horrible prank... :(
I haven't even tried to read between the lines of the whole story.When someone is in danger I go "blind".
Just like some of you,I was ready to contact that Ralph guy and send something to her.

Now I feel sorry for Victoria,but I'm not upset that we wanted to help her.
Our prayers and concerns were honest,and I'm sure we would do it again if someone would ask for help.

This situation just showed how many wonderful people are behind the screens and how fast they can become just like a family to someone in need of help.

I'm again impressed by Jeff's class...He is very different from the vast majority of the celebrities,and you all know what I mean. :)


Well Shania, just because some of us read between the lines, doesn't mean that we don't have compassion and don't care. I prayed for this girl just as much as anyone else did, blindly, and then when I realized things were getting too dramatic to be real, I was a mess. I was near tears with every post when I realized how Jeff and so many others would be hurt if it turned out to be a fraud. I still could not be 100% sure it was a fraud, so my prayers continued. I too was very moved by the whole community on these boards!
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Postby tammy » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:55 am

strungout wrote:
JSS wrote:Thanks one & all for the support...it has been grating on me all night & even the sweet solace of knocking back a few doesn't help me forget this ridiculous event bestowed onto all of us. i do appreciate the many words & this will not change who I am regardless of the outcome.


Sure hope not, cuz we like ya just the way you are! :D 8)


That's right! This whole episode sickens me because a "fan" (and who knows what her original intentions were all along!) was a part of this hoax. I don't know who she is, but I hope if she & her friend have a shred of conscience that they feel the guilt & apologize...that girl blew it big time. Now she can see what "she could have had" a Rock singer and a whole lot of strangers that were so concerned & worried about her! Sad, especially since some people wrote that she was this sweet, caring person! But, I can also say that I am glad there wasn't really a girl in a hospital in critical condition, which would've been worse.

Jeff, your admirable character shines through - I feel bad that you went through such a range of intense emotion in such a short time over this. Your family & friends are lucky to have someone like you. It is hard not to feel for other people on the forums because you get to "know them" through their posts - god knows I've cried over many posts & what happened to some fans.
And, all those prayers are never wasted - God knows the truth & will honor all the heartfelt thoughts and prayers in some way. :)
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Postby *Laura » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:58 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Well Shania, just because some of us read between the lines, doesn't mean that we don't have compassion and don't care.

Oh God,I didn't mean it that way! :?
I was just saying that I didn't "feel" anything alarming about the whole story...I just took it at it was presented and it really touched me.
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Postby tammy » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:12 am

Shania, I know what you meant. So many times it is very difficult to distinguish what is truth or not on the Net. Remember that girl that was here a while back pretending to be one of the moderators from BT? Some people in the world are just plain dishonest & evil - they all fall into the same category 'tho "rotten".
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Postby StevePerryHair » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:34 am

Shania wrote:
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Well Shania, just because some of us read between the lines, doesn't mean that we don't have compassion and don't care.

Oh God,I didn't mean it that way! :?
I was just saying that I didn't "feel" anything alarming about the whole story...I just took it at it was presented and it really touched me.


Thanks for clarifying. It touched me at first too. I was right there with you, until the story got more complicated. I think I have a natural tendancy to be skeptical of people. My husband was a detective who handled fraud cases for a few years, and I learned you just never know who to trust. It is very sad that we can't always trust things at face value. My biggest worry was it would come down to money, and I thank God all of our prayers worked for us not to be conned any further for that to happen!
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:35 am

Well if this nasty little scam was devised in order to get attention, it has certainly succeeded.
This has been the busiest Thread on here this weekend.
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Postby Blueskies » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:00 am

SusieP wrote:Well if this nasty little scam was devised in order to get attention, it has certainly succeeded.
This has been the busiest Thread on here this weekend.
Your right. I dont think it should get any more attention then it already has. That seems to be part of what the nut was looking for and everyone is giving it to them by continueing on and on about it. Lets let the authorities handle it and do whats needed to be done and let it rest. If she doesnt get in any trouble for it in the legal sense then karma has a way of coming back and will bite her in the ass...in the end. I just hope this doesnt further jade people from acting on impulse with their hearts and thoughts in the future. When things like this happen the worst damage to come from it is not financial or anything. ..the worst is that it hardens people from trusting and doing for someone in need the next time. I hope this doesnt happen. The world is full of good, honest people that are in need.... so our prayers are not really wasted. There are bad seeds that come along now and then to spoil things and try to take advantage of people and/ or a situation, but if we let the few bad ones stop us from giving when needed then we have let them defeat us. I will still give my trust and give with a happy heart like we all should. We can only try to go on instinct and trust our intuitions as to the validity of a situation and to what our senses tell us about them. In this case it was hard because we didnt know the person and just reacted to what we read here. So we cannot feel bad for doing the right thing. Like I said, I hope the "bad guy" doesnt win in this and manages to harden some folks when giving of themselves the next time someone is in need and I hope that everyone can still maintain and give their trust and give from the heart.
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:27 am

TVL wrote:
SusieP wrote:Well if this nasty little scam was devised in order to get attention, it has certainly succeeded.
This has been the busiest Thread on here this weekend.


Your right. I dont think it should get any more attention then it already has. That seems to be part of what the nut was looking for and everyone is giving it to them by continueing on and on about it. Lets let the authorities handle it and do whats needed to be done and let it rest.



Agreed.
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Postby styxman » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:28 am

That's exactly what I said, well like ages ago, close the thread, it's finished and getting a little tiresome now :roll:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:32 am

styxman wrote:That's exactly what I said, well like ages ago, close the thread, it's finished and getting a little tiresome now :roll:

You know, if people want to vent, they should be allowed to vent. I don't think we need people telling others how to feel.
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:48 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
styxman wrote:. I don't think we need people telling others how to feel.


You just did that. :?
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Postby StevePerryHair » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:54 am

SusieP wrote:
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styxman wrote:. I don't think we need people telling others how to feel.


You just did that. :?

Yeah, because post after post now, people are coming on here trying to make others feel stupid for still talking about it. If the thread is sooo boring why keep reading it??? I'm done here anyway. Won't be reading either!!
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:57 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
SusieP wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
styxman wrote:. I don't think we need people telling others how to feel.


You just did that. :?

Yeah, because post after post now, people are coming on here trying to make others feel stupid for still talking about it. If the thread is sooo boring why keep reading it??? I'm done here anyway. Won't be reading either!!



I never intended to make anyone "feel stupid" I just suggested that if the perpretrator of this scam did it to gain attention, then they had succeeded.


TVL suggested that we might consider stopping giving them the oxygen of "attention."

If that makes you feel stupid, then ......
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Postby **** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:09 am

Ok everyone.. this girl/guy whoever did enough damage, I don't think it's a good idea to start tearing at each other.
It's cool either way - to vent or not to vent .. (Shakesperian ;))
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Postby JSS » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:37 am

This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:41 am

JSS wrote:This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)


You're just too totally cool. :D
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Postby **** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:47 am

ohsherrie wrote:
JSS wrote:This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)


You're just too totally cool. :D


Ohh thanks, Oh, I thought you cut and paste mine ;) ;)
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Postby momto2 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:29 am

JSS wrote:This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)


Hey Jeff, I'm not a huge fan of yours but I was really impressed with the compassion and caring you showed toward a fan even if it did turn out to be a hoax. Unfortunately weirdos and stalkers usually come with the territory. Stay safe!
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:33 am

JSS wrote:This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)


Either that....or we think of ways to get even with this evil skank. :twisted:
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Postby styxman » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:34 am

JSS wrote:This should put an end to it....unfortunately, evidence points Victoria & the 'culprit' are the SAME person...the last 24 hours got even creepier but I'm stepping back from all this & not giving it anymore attention, doesn't deserve anymore than I am sorry we all gave it...no worries, my faith in good people in the world has not diminished! Let's get back to shit talking & rumor mill discussions as before :)


A fuckin' men.............back to business 8)
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