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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:13 pm

Aaron wrote: Holy shit dude, I just pissed myself!



If that is in fact the case I definitely would NOT be broadcasting it to this crowd. :shock:

I would get myself a wetnap, clean myself up and overall KEEP MY FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT! :lol:
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Postby Aaron » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:21 pm

:lol: I'm not proud dude, I'm an old fucker. You'll figure it out when you turn 40 ... and it leaks a little on occasion. :wink:

chf34jmac wrote:
Aaron wrote: Holy shit dude, I just pissed myself!



If that is in fact the case I definitely would NOT be broadcasting it to this crowd. :shock:

I would get myself a wetnap, clean myself up and overall KEEP MY FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT! :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:26 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:1) Generations
2) ROR
3) Frontiers



Dude, if your brain was chocolate you wouldn't have enough to fill a fuckin' M&M. I can't get over Generations being, in YOUR opinion, the best Journey album ever. I'm not sure what makes you so stupid, but it sure is working. :lol:
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Re: REAL ROR Poll, not some Slanted Euro Version

Postby conversationpc » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:26 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Of the 7 Perry fronted studio CD's, please rank them with the following criteria:

1) Overall song structure
2) Best flowing CD
3) Biggest impact
4) Best songs overall


1 - Frontiers
2 - Escape
3 - Infinity
4 - Evolution
5 - Departure
6 - Trial By Fire
7 - Raised on Radio

"Frontiers" beats out "Escape" just barely. To my ears "Dead or Alive", though it's a good tune, kinda messes up the flow of "Escape" enough to drop it into second place, more so than "Back Talk" does for "Frontiers". I also don't care for the fact that "Open Arms" closes it out. I just don't like ballads opening or closing an album.
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Re: REAL ROR Poll, not some Slanted Euro Version

Postby Aaron » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:28 pm

Here they are:

Evolution
Departure
Infinity
Escape
Frontiers
Arrival

and dead last, TBF, the only Journey CD I bought that actually pissed me off the first time I listened to it.
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Postby knox » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:28 pm

To me, Frontiers popularity was just riding the coat tails of Escape.

I know so many people like it best, but for me it was a weak album.

Chain Reaction and After The Fall are cheesy - even aside from the videos.
Back Talk and Troubled Child should have been thrown away never to be heard.
Send Her My Loveis an alright song.
Faithfully is okay, but still not in the same category as Good Morning Girl, Stay Awhile, Opened The Door, and Patiently.
Frontiers and Rubicon - again, get on my nerves. Nothing apealing to me at all about these songs.
Edge Of The Blade - Soto made me like the song better than Perry ever did.
Seperate Ways - Once I got the live version video in my head and displaced the worst video ever made, the song got better.


I am not trying to debate with anyone, just sharing my thoughts on the albm.

Had the song lineup been the following, it would probably jump up above Evolution based on the better flow of music:

Seperate Ways
Send Her My Love
Only The Young
Edge Of The Blade
Chain Reaction
Rubicon
Frontiers
After The Fall
Faithfully
Ask The Lonely
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Re: REAL ROR Poll, not some Slanted Euro Version

Postby Saint John » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:34 pm

Aaron wrote:Here they are:

Evolution
Departure
Infinity
Escape
Frontiers
Arrival

and dead last, TBF, the only Journey CD I bought that actually pissed me off the first time I listened to it.


Can you read? The thread starter, Deano, clearly asked for the 7 PERRY fronted albums to be ranked. Your vote does not count because A) You're a stupid fucker and can't read, or B) You made an honest mistake. Either way, your vote is nullified.
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Postby Rick » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:40 pm

knox wrote:To me, Frontiers popularity was just riding the coat tails of Escape.

I know so many people like it best, but for me it was a weak album.

Chain Reaction and After The Fall are cheesy - even aside from the videos.
Back Talk and Troubled Child should have been thrown away never to be heard.
Send Her My Loveis an alright song.
Faithfully is okay, but still not in the same category as Good Morning Girl, Stay Awhile, Opened The Door, and Patiently.
Frontiers and Rubicon - again, get on my nerves. Nothing apealing to me at all about these songs.
Edge Of The Blade - Soto made me like the song better than Perry ever did.
Seperate Ways - Once I got the live version video in my head and displaced the worst video ever made, the song got better.


I am not trying to debate with anyone, just sharing my thoughts on the albm.

Had the song lineup been the following, it would probably jump up above Evolution based on the better flow of music:

Seperate Ways
Send Her My Love
Only The Young
Edge Of The Blade
Chain Reaction
Rubicon
Frontiers
After The Fall
Faithfully
Ask The Lonely


I agree Knox, Frontiers certainly got it's boost from Escape. Escape was my favorite because it had something to do with one of the best nights in my life. The restaruant, concert, date, friends. It was the perfect night.
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Re: REAL ROR Poll, not some Slanted Euro Version

Postby Aaron » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:03 pm

Or C) Arrival was better than the other two Perry turds that were released and I counted it instead.

saint John wrote:
Aaron wrote:Here they are:

Evolution
Departure
Infinity
Escape
Frontiers
Arrival

and dead last, TBF, the only Journey CD I bought that actually pissed me off the first time I listened to it.


Can you read? The thread starter, Deano, clearly asked for the 7 PERRY fronted albums to be ranked. Your vote does not count because A) You're a stupid fucker and can't read, or B) You made an honest mistake. Either way, your vote is nullified.
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Re: REAL ROR Poll, not some Slanted Euro Version

Postby Saint John » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:05 pm

Aaron wrote:Or C) Arrival was better than the other two Perry turds that were released and I counted it instead.

saint John wrote:
Aaron wrote:Here they are:

Evolution
Departure
Infinity
Escape
Frontiers
Arrival

and dead last, TBF, the only Journey CD I bought that actually pissed me off the first time I listened to it.


Can you read? The thread starter, Deano, clearly asked for the 7 PERRY fronted albums to be ranked. Your vote does not count because A) You're a stupid fucker and can't read, or B) You made an honest mistake. Either way, your vote is nullified.



It's official, you're a stupid fucker. YOU don't get to make up the criteria to be voted upon. THAT is the job of the thread starter. Dumb fuck. :roll:
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Postby SusieP » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:12 pm

Escape is tops for me.
I like every song on it and it flows just fine.
Also, it was the first time I heard Journey - so its kind of like love at first sight for me. You always remember your first. :wink:

I then went out and bought the albums which went before it but didn't like them as much.

And I love TBF - except Castles Burning. :evil:
I also love ROR. All of it.
These albums I play often.

Frontiers, Evolution,Departure and Infinity - I have taken off a few tracks from each and made my own compilation CD.

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Postby Red13JoePa » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:19 pm

My top 3 remains what it its, nitwits. :lol:


Bunch of rocket scientists here. :roll:
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Postby Matthew » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:21 pm

I love Escape, Frontiers and ROR equally...I just can't chose...all three are masterpieces.

The others?

4) Departure
5) Infinity
6) Trial By Fire
7) Evolution
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:06 am

Red13JoePa wrote:My top 3 remains what it its, nitwits. :lol:


Bunch of rocket scientists here. :roll:


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Postby X factor » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:15 am

Matthew wrote:I love Escape, Frontiers and ROR equally...I just can't chose...all three are masterpieces.

The others?

4) Departure
5) Infinity
6) Trial By Fire
7) Evolution


Matthew,
I agree about FRONTIERS and ESCAPE (my thoughts on ROR are well documented ! :lol: )
However, I'm curious- why no love for EVOLUTION? It's my favorite of all (though just by a hair)...
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:35 am

Red13JoePa wrote:My top 3 remains what it its, nitwits. :lol:


Bunch of rocket scientists here. :roll:


Well if my son is a 5 star player and Penn State recruits him, I will block that move in a second.

Dude, you aren't doing Penn State any favours typing the stupid shit you are typing.

It's embarrassing.
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Postby Matthew » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:47 am

X factor wrote:
Matthew wrote:I love Escape, Frontiers and ROR equally...I just can't chose...all three are masterpieces.

The others?

4) Departure
5) Infinity
6) Trial By Fire
7) Evolution


Matthew,
I agree about FRONTIERS and ESCAPE (my thoughts on ROR are well documented ! :lol: )
However, I'm curious- why no love for EVOLUTION? It's my favorite of all (though just by a hair)...


Oh...I feel the love alright X factor...but just not quite as much as the others....just by a hair! Very few of the songs - except for LTS and Daydream - are particularly favourites of mine...and I can't take Rolie's voice on Just The Same Way. In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:49 am

Matthew wrote: In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


Darwin Award Nominee.


You officially are a fag. Please tell me you don't prefer Garfriga's chords over Gregs?
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:49 am

Matthew wrote:Oh...I feel the love alright X factor...but just not quite as much as the others....just by a hair! Very few of the songs - except for LTS and Daydream - are particularly favourites of mine...and I can't take Rolie's voice on Just The Same Way. In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.



I agree Matthew, it's his voice which puts those albums way down on my list too.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:50 am

Fuckin Euros :roll:
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:51 am

RockinDeano wrote:Fuckin Euros :roll:



You love us really.
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Postby SusieP » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:52 am

Rolie does win in the moose knuckle stakes however. :lol: :lol:

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Postby Matthew » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:52 am

RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote: In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


Darwin Award Nominee.


You officially are a fag. Please tell me you don't prefer Garfriga's chords over Gregs?


Garfriga's voice isn't up to much either. I never understood why the Journey keyboard players were allowed anywhere near a microphone.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:53 am

Sounds to me like the Gene Pool in Europe could use a little chlorine. :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:55 am

Matthew wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote: In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


Darwin Award Nominee.


You officially are a fag. Please tell me you don't prefer Garfriga's chords over Gregs?


Garfriga's voice isn't up to much either. I never understood why the Journey keyboard players were allowed anywhere near a microphone.


It's called a duet...and in this case, you wanted something different. You had Perry and then you needed someone who could sing with him.. What you suggest, Ross? Can you see RV in his motorhome mechanics' uniform, singing, "Feeling that Way" and trying to make his faces and squirt water at the same time? LOL..Neal, not quite. Smith is as loud as a bull mouse. Greg has a strong voice. Garfriga doesn't. You don't want me to publicly talk about the secrets of Garfrigas pipes do you? No, you don't.
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Postby Deb » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:56 am

Matthew wrote:
Oh...I feel the love alright X factor...but just not quite as much as the others....just by a hair! Very few of the songs - except for LTS and Daydream - are particularly favourites of mine...and I can't take Rolie's voice on Just The Same Way. In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


I don't love Rollies vocals, but I don't mind them either. To me they seem to bring out the best in Perry's vocals. Perry's voice sounds all that more angelic (for want of a better word) next to Rollies in songs like Someday Soon, Just the Same Way, etc. Totally with ya on Daydream and LTS too.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:57 am

RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote: In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


Darwin Award Nominee.


You officially are a fag. Please tell me you don't prefer Garfriga's chords over Gregs?


Garfriga's voice isn't up to much either. I never understood why the Journey keyboard players were allowed anywhere near a microphone.


It's called a duet...and in this case, you wanted something different. You had Perry and then you needed someone who could sing with him.. What you suggest, Ross? LOL..Neal, not quite. Smith is as loud as a bull mouse. Greg has a strong voice. Garfriga doesn't. You don't want me to publicly talk about the secrets of Garfrigas pipes do you? No, you don't.



The contrast between Perry and Rolie was magical. Feeling That Way, Anytime, Just The Same Way to name a few. Great stuff.
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Postby Matthew » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:57 am

RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Matthew wrote: In fact, Rolie's vocals are the weak link on all the first three albums...for me, anyway.


Darwin Award Nominee.


You officially are a fag. Please tell me you don't prefer Garfriga's chords over Gregs?


Garfriga's voice isn't up to much either. I never understood why the Journey keyboard players were allowed anywhere near a microphone.


It's called a duet...and in this case, you wanted something different. You had Perry and then you needed someone who could sing with him.. What you suggest, Ross? LOL..Neal, not quite. Smith is as loud as a bull mouse. Greg has a strong voice. Garfriga doesn't. You don't want me to publicly talk about the secrets of Garfrigas pipes do you? No, you don't.


You? Who? I didn't want any duets. Just Perry on lead vocals and layered Perry over-dubs for harmonies. Everyone else can concentrate on what they're good at.
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Postby Matthew » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:00 am

saint John wrote:The contrast between Perry and Rolie was magical. Feeling That Way, Anytime, Just The Same Way to name a few. Great stuff.



Glad you enjoy them, Saint John. But to me those songs suffer from the almost absurd difference in quality between the two voices.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:03 am

Matthew wrote: Just Perry on lead vocals and layered Perry over-dubs for harmonies. Everyone else can concentrate on what they're good at.


There! Right there! That is what you are and what you like.

"Layered Perry Vocals and overdubs?" What? That is what you do on a solo record. How the Hell can you replicate "Layered Perry vocals" in a live setting? Now I see why you love Raised on Radio so much. It is a Perry solo record.
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