Sickening

[Saint John]

I'm not sure I've EVER read something this horrifying in my life.




http://www.apfte.net/

[Crazie Scarab]

"The media in the US and most white, western-European counties no longer performs its job of "reporting the news. Instead, they propagandize. They are extremely selective about which stories they report and even more selective in HOW those stories are reported.

The news coverage today done by the major networks is specifically designed to shape and mold your view of the world; to manipulate the way you perceive things and how you think. This story is proof."

You better believe it!

[sindee67]

I'm shocked. I don't think this should go without someone speaking up, I just don't know what to say...

[Saint John]

I'm shocked. I don't think this should go without someone speaking up, I just don't know what to say...

How about saying" The media sucks, they don't care about white people as victims of crime because it doesn't stir up shit, and if this crime was white on black the world would be over." It's kind of like the way Rodney King, who was doing 100+ mph high on PCP and initially resisted arrest, was more of a victim than Reginald Denny, who was merely trying to earn a living and had bricks slammed off of his face. When it's black on white, the race hustlers and media promote "healing" yet when it's white on black they demand "justice" and monetary retribution. Complete bullshit.

[Red13JoePa]

I do think they're for the most part guilty of downplaying the Islamic Extremest murderers.
Look no further than the buzzwords used for these scalpers and head choppers: "Insurgents" "Rebels" instead of what they are.

[whocares]

Perhaps, RJP13, but the Media also doesn't often differentiate between "plain" Muslims and extremists. That's a dis-service to people who are Muslim, who are sensible enough to know that it's not about "killing Americans and what they stand for".

Is the media biased? hell yes! Moreso than ever before, these days. It used to be that a news reporter wasn't allowed to express their personal feelings abotu a subject, and yet these days, you'll often hear them comment on a story or write on their blogs. What has happened to unbiased News reporting in the U.S.? Fuck, that shit has gone by the wayside a long time ago.

[Red13JoePa]

The problem is, and I'm taking what SHOULD be a fairly ejamakated gess here, the ratio of Muslims who are extremest is about as high a ratio there is for extremeists/religion.

I don't have the stats but Strangegrey does and made a mighty case another time. People are going to try to throw Christian extremeists and abortion clinics at me but wake me up when they do the WTC TWICE or admit to planning on flattening the Sears Tower.

[whocares]

Muslim AND Christina Extremists are dangerous in their own ways. Numbers? I have no clue, nor do I care, to be honest with ya. But if i read you right, you are saying it's smallish. The problem is that they get the most publicity. Perhaps because the other ones who aren't pushing their values on "us" just aren't "news" to the media.

[Wally_Hatchet]

I'm sorry, but these murderers deserve days of agonizing torture.

[Red13JoePa]

Numbers? I have no clue, nor do I care, to be honest with ya. But if i read you right, you are saying it's smallish.

Compared to the Islamic butchers who hate and try to kill simply because others have the misfortune of being "infadels?" Yea. Christian extremests are very limited by way of comparison.

[strangegrey]

The whole Islamist thing is a VERY complicated issue. I'm actually in the middle of taking a class on the religion right now...and over the course of the past semester, I have changed my mind on this more times than I care to admit. Very complicated and complex a problem.

To look at it from the hard-line stance (that most to the right have taken), of stating there's X-number of extremists here and abroad and we need to iradicate this problem, and show force and etc, etc, etc....Is missing the fact that the religion is tremendously complex...and the religion is deeply seated in social/political world of the middle east.

To look at it from the softer stance (that the left has taken)....is equally naive, as it is quite easy to assume that since Islam itself is born from Christianity and Judaism...and that, in making that assumption, Christians/Jews share a value system with Muslims.

There are hard numbers that are at-best very educated guesses on the proportions of Islamist-Extremist muslims that are hell bent to kill non-believers....I've seen everything from 10-20% of Muslims worldwide (which, given the number of Muslims worldwide, renders a very scary number). There just aren't as many Christian extremist out there. To try to excuse muslim extremism by stating there's equal number of christian extremists isn't really that smart. Christian schools of thought have not taken on terrorism as a tool to get their point across (the very small percentage of abortion clinic bombers excluded)....where as some muslim schools have.

However, having said that above...I often question the above 'percentage' issue. It's way too clean and easy for people to come out and say "Hey, there's X number of muslim's bombers out there and we have to GET them!"...and the motivation for sowing such an idea falls very much in line with the agenda of this administration. I'm not entirely convinced that 911 went down as we are largely lead to believe...I think Michael Moore is full of horseshit...but I also think something REALLY fucking stinks in Denmark, with the story we've been shoveled about 911. If there's even a hair thread of proof that 911 isn't entirely and completely a muslim extremist plan that slipped through the cracks of our intelligence network.....

...then you can't trust anything that you read about Muslims in pop culture.

Even, if it's all at face value....this entire Muslim problem/issue (and this thread with it) could be argued and absolutely dragged through the pits of hell before any of us could even come up with a wet dream of a solution to the problem.


Heck, it might be better off to stick to plain old Black and White racism and leave the 'brown' out of this...because these types of discussions *always* get ugly.

[strangegrey]

"Shitty Message Boards simply don't last."

Ouch!!! LOL!!

well, who am I to argue!

[whocares]

83% os stats are made up on the spot.

[strangegrey]

83% os stats are made up on the spot.

But 100% of stats concerning made up stats are really true!

[whocares]

83% os stats are made up on the spot.

But 100% of stats concerning made up stats are really true!

much like everything you read on the internet is true, eh?

[Red13JoePa]

Thanks a lot, Frank.

Now you go and take a CLASS on me.

The 45-days-ago Strangegrey was way smarter.


Good work.