An arguable Journey review

[SunshineTwilight]

I'm still wondering what the hell a 'whoop' & 'yeah' sound like....I wish someone could play me 1 or 2 songs that contain these items to show me what the hell that means. And regarding being at Perry's level or him being at mine or George Bush being a complete 'tard, why not wait to hear what the new Journey sounds like instead of comparing how Hagar sounds nothing like Roth on You Really Got Me!

The only 'whoop' I ever heard out of you, (if you could call it that) was when you got grabbed at the Pompano, FL show.

[SusieP]

No "whoops" and "yeahs" in the shows I have been to or boots I have heard.

The only thing I can think of is I use a lot of Perry's vocal 'items' from Captured on the songs we did live on that appeared on that album, there were a lot of things that he did that 'added' to the songs where I just borrowed them...someone not familiar with those versions might think I was taking liberties with the songs as I didn't do them like the studio versions like Augeri mostly stuck to.

Maybe the hardcore fans realize I am so close to those versions, I prefer doing them that way instead of the album versions, who knows?

I think the hardcore fans are looking forward to you helping to take Journey into a new dawn. We've all been living in the past for a while and most of us are eager to hear the new direction you are working towards.
And far be it from this little old Euro to tell a 'certified rock God' what to do, but I'll do it anyway [ ] take no heed. It's just ONE bloke's opinion.
You were there on the UK tour - you heard the audience reaction at every gig and he is in the minority. A minority of one.
But he did say you have a phenominal range. So maybe you could heed that?

[*Laura]

No "whoops" and "yeahs" in the shows I have been to or boots I have heard.

The only thing I can think of is I use a lot of Perry's vocal 'items' from Captured on the songs we did live on that appeared on that album, there were a lot of things that he did that 'added' to the songs where I just borrowed them...someone not familiar with those versions might think I was taking liberties with the songs as I didn't do them like the studio versions like Augeri mostly stuck to.

Maybe the hardcore fans realize I am so close to those versions, I prefer doing them that way instead of the album versions, who knows?

I think the hardcore fans are looking forward to you helping to take Journey into a new dawn. We've all been living in the past for a while and most of us are eager to hear the new direction you are working towards.
And far be it from this little old Euro to tell a 'certified rock God' what to do, but I'll do it anyway [ ] take no heed. It's just ONE bloke's opinion.
You were there on the UK tour - you heard the audience reaction at every gig and he is in the minority. A minority of one.
But he did say you have a phenominal range. So maybe you could heed that? :)

Thanks for saving me from typing,Susie,I agree with your every word!

GEuroMTA!


Btw,Jeff,not only I think you have an awesome voice but I like your "yeahs" too.

[SusieP]

Well, when Deano has finished boycotting the British Queen's US visit, we'll send him round to the reviewer's place to make him an offer he can't refuse, or something.

[*Laura]

Well, when Deano has finished boycotting the British Queen's US visit, we'll send him round to the reviewer's place to make him an offer he can't refuse, or something.

There is only one thing I can think Deano could do to the reviewer :

[knox]

I am the biggest Perry fan in the world.

I NEVER wanted to see Augeri. To me, Journey could have faded into oblivion with that guy at the lead.

If Journey comes to Knoxville NOW, I will be there.

THAT is what Soto brings to the music. Soto has Lead Man credibility.

And I sing the songs like Captured as well (in my car where no one can hear me )

[txfirefighter]

I'm still wondering what the hell a 'whoop' & 'yeah' sound like....I wish someone could play me 1 or 2 songs that contain these items to show me what the hell that means. And regarding being at Perry's level or him being at mine or George Bush being a complete 'tard, why not wait to hear what the new Journey sounds like instead of comparing how Hagar sounds nothing like Roth on You Really Got Me!

The only 'whoop' I ever heard out of you, (if you could call it that) was when you got grabbed at the Pompano, FL show.

Hee hee hee! Yep, I remember a bit of a yelp with that little "attack"! Sorry, Jeff, but your reaction to that was classic!

[NealIsGod]

I'm still wondering what the hell a 'whoop' & 'yeah' sound like....I wish someone could play me 1 or 2 songs that contain these items to show me what the hell that means. And regarding being at Perry's level or him being at mine or George Bush being a complete 'tard, why not wait to hear what the new Journey sounds like instead of comparing how Hagar sounds nothing like Roth on You Really Got Me!

The only 'whoop' I ever heard out of you, (if you could call it that) was when you got grabbed at the Pompano, FL show.

Hee hee hee! Yep, I remember a bit of a yelp with that little "attack"! Sorry, Jeff, but your reaction to that was classic!

How about when he fell on his ass in Hollywood? Sorry, Jeff!

[Eric]

If someone says they'd rather hear Deen-O sing instead of JSS....fine, I mean do you want to hear awesomeA or awesomeB. But, to suggest that Augeri did a better job at covering the classics is just a poorly stated opinion. I think you got it right JSS - the reviewer prefers the radio/album edit of the song. He should have just said THAT.

And Aaron...some of us are looking for a vocalist who does an acceptable job "COVERING" and an exceptional job "DELIVERING" Journey's old catalog....with an emphasis placed on creating NEW Journeyesque music with and a new perspective and edge. You have a right to want to see a jukebox everynight, but just like the reviewer - SAY THAT.....

[****]

I'm still wondering what the hell a 'whoop' & 'yeah' sound like....I wish someone could play me 1 or 2 songs that contain these items to show me what the hell that means. And regarding being at Perry's level or him being at mine or George Bush being a complete 'tard, why not wait to hear what the new Journey sounds like instead of comparing how Hagar sounds nothing like Roth on You Really Got Me!

The only 'whoop' I ever heard out of you, (if you could call it that) was when you got grabbed at the Pompano, FL show.

Hee hee hee! Yep, I remember a bit of a yelp with that little "attack"! Sorry, Jeff, but your reaction to that was classic!

How about when he fell on his ass in Hollywood? Sorry, Jeff!

Here you can see the stage - how slippery it was..


There is this WONDERFUL photographer - he actually got the picture of Jeff falling.. but took it down cuz he though it was disrespectful (I hope he changes his mind cuz the picture is FREAKING hilarious) - but he left the aftermath up...



You can find more pictures here..
http://jfindley.smugmug.com/gallery/2186518

[Uncle heFTy]

Some years ago (2005 I think) the JSSB were playing Garage Deluxe in Munich on the last night of the final leg of an European tour with 'Mike Stone's Forgotten Son's' as support. Jeff and the band plastered the support with shaving foam yet they kept on playing. We - the stage weary, ever working crew, did our best to clean it all up, but there must have been some residue. almost at the end of Jeff's set there was an almighty 'karumph!' as Howie went head over tip and landed flat on his back - but kept playing as Jeff and I lifted him into an upright position. It was hilarious and added mightily to a great evening - kudos to Howie.

Uncle heFTy

[SunshineTwilight]

Some years ago (2005 I think) the JSSB were playing Garage Deluxe in Munich on the last night of the final leg of an European tour with 'Mike Stone's Forgotten Son's' as support. Jeff and the band plastered the support with shaving foam yet they kept on playing. We - the stage weary, ever working crew, did our best to clean it all up, but there must have been some residue. almost at the end of Jeff's set there was an almighty 'karumph!' as Howie went head over tip and landed flat on his back - but kept playing as Jeff and I lifted him into an upright position. It was hilarious and added mightily to a great evening - kudos to Howie.

Uncle heFTy

LMAO, Great story Frank, thanks for sharing!!

I guess everyone has to take their fall at one time or another. I know I have!

[Melissa]

Some years ago (2005 I think) the JSSB were playing Garage Deluxe in Munich on the last night of the final leg of an European tour with 'Mike Stone's Forgotten Son's' as support. Jeff and the band plastered the support with shaving foam yet they kept on playing. We - the stage weary, ever working crew, did our best to clean it all up, but there must have been some residue. almost at the end of Jeff's set there was an almighty 'karumph!' as Howie went head over tip and landed flat on his back - but kept playing as Jeff and I lifted him into an upright position. It was hilarious and added mightily to a great evening - kudos to Howie.

Uncle heFTy

LMAO, Great story Frank, thanks for sharing!!

I guess everyone has to take their fall at one time or another. I know I have!

You have Pam? Nooooo..... LOL J/K

Read that review yesterday, poo-poo on whoever wrote it

[Deb]

I've been around Jeff and his music for 4+ years and part of his trademark persona is the amount of stage that he covers and the effort he puts into delivering a visual as well as vocal performance (evident in his acoustic solo stuff too!)

Critics - pah! who needs them.
Uncle H

And bless him for it, makes it a lot more entertaining! Really doesn't matter what band he's fronting or solo, you know with him on lead you're going to get a full out show. LOL and I don't give a shit what anybody else thinks, but I think the mic drops are cool as hell!

[Aaron]

I'll definitely give the new cd a fair shake. When can we expect to see it?

I'm still wondering what the hell a 'whoop' & 'yeah' sound like....I wish someone could play me 1 or 2 songs that contain these items to show me what the hell that means. And regarding being at Perry's level or him being at mine or George Bush being a complete 'tard, why not wait to hear what the new Journey sounds like instead of comparing how Hagar sounds nothing like Roth on You Really Got Me!

[Rick]

No "whoops" and "yeahs" in the shows I have been to or boots I have heard.

The only thing I can think of is I use a lot of Perry's vocal 'items' from Captured on the songs we did live on that appeared on that album, there were a lot of things that he did that 'added' to the songs where I just borrowed them...someone not familiar with those versions might think I was taking liberties with the songs as I didn't do them like the studio versions like Augeri mostly stuck to.

Maybe the hardcore fans realize I am so close to those versions, I prefer doing them that way instead of the album versions, who knows?

I don't hardly listen to the album versions at all anymore. I love the live shows. THAT'S why I think you are so good for Journey, you sing the catalog with respect to it's originality, and you sing the monkey piss out of it. (that's a good thing)

[donnaplease]

Well hell, guys, I only had to read the first sentence before I knew that this guy was an ass! I never really heard Augeri 'soar'...

Jeff, you've got it going on!!! We're all looking forward to new Journey music from you and the boys!!!

[7 Wishes]

Jeff, I'm pretty sure he's referring to Steve Augieri, who was, well, known for a lot of "yeahs". No-one quite undertands what a "whoop" is, but, what the hell. You're one bad dude, man; your voice has gotten more powerful and dynamic over the years. We're all behind you. Who cares about some Limey Fruit reviewer, anyway?

"I love robbing the English...so polite!"

Kevin Klein in "A Fish Called Wanda"

[Saint John]

While I don't agree with the guy's opinion, I respect it. He thinks, as some do, that Deen sounds more like the classic-era Journey (meaning Perry) than Jeff does. Fuck, the guy is entitled to his opinion...no big deal. And he says that Jeff RESISTS the "yeahs" and "whoops." And he DOES compliment Jeff. Let's not be to Soto what the loons are to Perry. A dissenting opinion isn't the end of the world. All in all, I thought it was a fair review...though I disagree with it. Life goes on.

[StevePerryHair]

I find it hard to respect this guy's opinion. I can see him having an opinion of thinking that Jeff doesn't have Perry's exact voice (duh!) He's entitled to that, whatever. But he even makes fun of his presence on stage, which maybe these critics think they're funny, but I think it's nothing but mean. Even rock stars have feelings. I can't respect that. I'm pretty sure we are all entitled to our own opinions too, which is what I think is being expressed here. I would not say thta everyone is being "loon" like just because they don't agree with him.

[Saint John]

I stand corrected. If you look at the top right corner of the page it says "Jeff Scott Soto: too many 'Whoops' and 'Yeahs.'" Like Jeff, I'm not sure what that means. Anyway, he said that Jeff "has a tendency to wail and over-sing, while jittering like a hyperactive toddler." Personally, I don't hear the wailing and over-singing but I could see how some might think his stage presence is overactive. I found the toddler part amusing. Jeff is living out the dream he had as a kid, so maybe, just maybe, being on that stage takes him back to his days of singing those songs as a kid. Hell, it does me at at their concerts. My point is this...the guy gave some compliments and threw in some things HE had a problem with. No big deal. And I didn't say that disagreeing with this guy makes you a loon. Rather, let's not pick apart every review that doesn't give Journey a perfect "score." It's simply a waste of time.

[donnaplease]

I stand corrected. If you look at the top right corner of the page it says "Jeff Scott Soto: too many 'Whoops' and 'Yeahs.'" Like Jeff, I'm not sure what that means. Anyway, he said that Jeff "has a tendency to wail and over-sing, while jittering like a hyperactive toddler." Personally, I don't hear the wailing and over-singing but I could see how some might think his stage presence is overactive. I found the toddler part amusing. Jeff is living out the dream he had as a kid, so maybe, just maybe, being on that stage takes him back to his days of singing those songs as a kid. Hell, it does me at at their concerts. My point is this...the guy gave some compliments and threw in some things HE had a problem with. No big deal. And I didn't say that disagreeing with this guy makes you a loon. Rather, let's not pick apart every review that doesn't give Journey a perfect "score." It's simply a waste of time.

Since when did you become the voice of reason????

Jeff's great. I believe he said he's trying to honor the classic Journey by his stage performance (my interpretation of what he said...), not so much the studio version of the music. That's one of the many things that I respect about Journey. They can change up the presentation of the music and it's still great!!! I don't think every band can do that. JMO.

[Saint John]

I stand corrected. If you look at the top right corner of the page it says "Jeff Scott Soto: too many 'Whoops' and 'Yeahs.'" Like Jeff, I'm not sure what that means. Anyway, he said that Jeff "has a tendency to wail and over-sing, while jittering like a hyperactive toddler." Personally, I don't hear the wailing and over-singing but I could see how some might think his stage presence is overactive. I found the toddler part amusing. Jeff is living out the dream he had as a kid, so maybe, just maybe, being on that stage takes him back to his days of singing those songs as a kid. Hell, it does me at at their concerts. My point is this...the guy gave some compliments and threw in some things HE had a problem with. No big deal. And I didn't say that disagreeing with this guy makes you a loon. Rather, let's not pick apart every review that doesn't give Journey a perfect "score." It's simply a waste of time.

Since when did you become the voice of reason????

Jeff's great. I believe he said he's trying to honor the classic Journey by his stage performance (my interpretation of what he said...), not so much the studio version of the music. That's one of the many things that I respect about Journey. They can change up the presentation of the music and it's still great!!! I don't think every band can do that. JMO.

I'm stepping out now. I'll deal with YOU later!

[ForceInfinity]

Ah shit, you're damned if you sound too much like Perry (Augeri). You're damned if you don't sound enough like him (Soto). It's like you can't win or something....

[giosi]

Just read Jeff 's answers to some of these "questions" in my article found on jeffscottsoto.com (press/reviews)

Giosi

[LucyFurr]

Last line of the review: "But still the niggles remain."

What in the world are niggles?

my exact question.

[LucyFurr]

[quote="Aaron"]I read the review and I would put it spot on with my feelings after hearing the Indy show this year. Yep, you all can start blasting away but I'm on the same page as the dude writing the article. I'm not up to speed on that particular show but I have the same feelings about the current line up. I'm sure I'll be blasted shit for this but, don't all of you agree that Perry is the pinnacle of rock vocalists? That seems to be an issue that no one on this board will argue. If that is the case, then why would anyone settle for second best as folks have been saying here on this forum. I'm not looking for a Perry clone at all. All I'm looking for is when the Journey vocalist sings I think, "Holy fuck, that guy is the best I've ever heard (better than Perry)". I'm not getting that now and I don't think you all are either. So why are you willing to settle for something less? I'm sure there are a 100 people that sing better than Perry, where the fuck are they and why aren't you asking for them???


[quote="Shania"]

I think we Perry lovers dont want another psuedo clone up there. Augeri soured that with me and alot of people and I am THANKFUL that there is a new, younger sound and vocalist that has changed the band in a positive way. I hardly think Jeff is "less" than Perry and I don't feel I'm settling when I listen to and watch his shows!