Just To Be Fair......

[Rockindeano]

Hey, I want to make sure Lora and Cyndy understand, I don't hate Perry. I love what that guy gave to me in my life and that is umnmatched vocals. I do think though, that I have a right to be pissed about his non communicative relationship with the fans. I have met him a few times.

I DO believe he has the right to remain isolated and quiet, it's his life. Why don't you fucking loons take heed of that and let him go. It's probably his wish, to fade away, yet like I said, you all ,asturbate furiously to his sighting at a fucking cafe.

I would be even more pissed if Neal said a big "fuck you" to us. That guy gets it. He appreciates us, and plays his ass off for us. That guy is just surreal.

[NealIsGod]

There's a way to say goodbye when you leave someone's house. You go up to the host, you say thank you for having you and you leave through the front door. I sorta equate Perry's departure along the lines of showing up, being the life of the party, for a few hours, going into the bathroom pulling a double decker on the toilet (shitting in the upper reservior), pissing on the bathroom rug....walking into the kitchen, jamming his hand into the yet-to-be served cake and coming up with a huge handful....walking out the back door never saying goodbye to anyone...and while walking out the back door, you let the host's dog out...and the dog gets hit by a car as you whipe your cake stained hands on the car seat of the owner's car....and walk away never to be seen again.

Funny, I could envision Deano doing all of those things.

[PROPERRY]

NO matter what some of you say to personally tear him down ,you will NEVER be able to take away what he has accomplished in his music carreer. He will always have fans that love him ad support him, even if NONE of you do! It really says MORE about the kind of people you are to have to resort to being this mean spirited towards someone you don't know personally.

And those of you that SAY you are Perry fans that sit idly by and ''let" some of your buddies here tear him down without saying anything to stand up for Perry are just as bad as the ones saying all the negative crap about him.

Hey Tard, we DO appreciate what he did. We WANT his legacy to remain intact. We DON'T want to beat off to his visits to studios.

Again, you missed the point you fuckin stupid shit.

NO , you don't appreciate what he accomplished, NOR are you keeping his legacy intact either by BASHING HIM! Your ACTIONS don't match your WORDS!!!

AGAIN, those that CLAIM to be Perry fans that sit idly by, NOT speaking up, while you and some others tear Perry down, are just as "equally guilty", as you and anyone else here that tears him down.

PP-
you just don't get it...we are all so hurt by what he did that we just have to vent...EVERYONE here loves what he has done with his voice and music and want to keep the memory intact...its just that some of our hearts miss his voice and contribution to the Journey catalog and are saddened that we will NEVER hear it again. We lost something that we will not
get back, EVER...we are not tearing him down...just hurt and angry that he strings us along...

SO let me get this straight because you are 'hurt and angry", with Perry because he is not singing for you and THINK he is stringing you along , this gives the right for others to continually bash Perry on this board. You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

You know I don't claim to know how Perry feels, but I'll tell you what, if I were in Perry's shoes, I wouldn't sing for ANY of you on this board! And if JSS was treated & talked about like Perry is on this board, I bet he wouldn't sing for ANY of you either.

[heardonthestreet]

NO matter what some of you say to personally tear him down ,you will NEVER be able to take away what he has accomplished in his music carreer. He will always have fans that love him ad support him, even if NONE of you do! It really says MORE about the kind of people you are to have to resort to being this mean spirited towards someone you don't know personally.

And those of you that SAY you are Perry fans that sit idly by and ''let" some of your buddies here tear him down without saying anything to stand up for Perry are just as bad as the ones saying all the negative crap about him.

Hey Tard, we DO appreciate what he did. We WANT his legacy to remain intact. We DON'T want to beat off to his visits to studios.

Again, you missed the point you fuckin stupid shit.

NO , you don't appreciate what he accomplished, NOR are you keeping his legacy intact either by BASHING HIM! Your ACTIONS don't match your WORDS!!!

AGAIN, those that CLAIM to be Perry fans that sit idly by, NOT speaking up, while you and some others tear Perry down, are just as "equally guilty", as you and anyone else here that tears him down.

I would put Dean's passion for and knowledge of Perry-era Journey up against yours ANY day. Being a woman, you just have the gushiness, estrogen-laden lust for him that completely destroys any cred you could have. All of your posts are vapid, Perry-and-HOTS-ass-kissing. You have contributed 1/1,000,000th of what Dean has to this board.

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

[NealIsGod]

You know I don't claim to know how Perry feels, but I'll tell you what, if I were in Perry's shoes, I wouldn't sing for ANY of you on this board! And if JSS was treated & talked about like Perry is on this board, I bet he wouldn't sing for ANY of you either.

Then why do you post here?

[heardonthestreet]

There's a way to say goodbye when you leave someone's house. You go up to the host, you say thank you for having you and you leave through the front door. I sorta equate Perry's departure along the lines of showing up, being the life of the party, for a few hours, going into the bathroom pulling a double decker on the toilet (shitting in the upper reservior), pissing on the bathroom rug....walking into the kitchen, jamming his hand into the yet-to-be served cake and coming up with a huge handful....walking out the back door never saying goodbye to anyone...and while walking out the back door, you let the host's dog out...and the dog gets hit by a car as you whipe your cake stained hands on the car seat of the owner's car....and walk away never to be seen again.

Funny, I could envision Deano doing all of those things.

I thought he WAS talking about him,

[NealIsGod]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

Oh, it's been substantiated all right. And the only discord is among the people who can't let Perry go. In one breath, Loons say that he is entitled to do whatever he wants and we should be happy for him. Then come reports of him growing his hair, visiting a recording studio, Uncle Joe saying he can still sing, etc. I don't really care either way, just pick a side. Do you want him to enjoy his "retirement" or do you want to "keep hope alive" for an unlikely comeback?

[Rockindeano]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

So I am hated everywhere on the net pertaining to Journey? Not hardly.

BT hates me because I was right. They know it and so does everybody with a brain. Ross had to say what he said. Done deal.

The Perry only boards I can give two shits about. They hated me before Tapegate, then miraculously loved me during TG, and now back to hating. Like I give a shit about a bunch of Loons.

Why are you even here HOTS? Give me ONE reason.

[PROPERRY]

You know I don't claim to know how Perry feels, but I'll tell you what, if I were in Perry's shoes, I wouldn't sing for ANY of you on this board! And if JSS was treated & talked about like Perry is on this board, I bet he wouldn't sing for ANY of you either.

Then why do you post here?

I post here because I'm a Perry fan and LOVE his music! Perry doesn't HAVE to sing for me , in order for ME to KEEP being his fan! I RESPECT his right to live his life as he chooses.

[Rockindeano]

I post here because I'm a Perry fan and LOVE his music! Perry doesn't HAVE to sing for me , in order for ME to KEEP being his fan! I RESPECT his right to live his life as he chooses.

He isn't even a topic. It's a Journey board.


It's JOURNEY'S music, NOT Perry's.

[Rick]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

So I am hated everywhere on the net pertaining to Journey? Not hardly.

BT hates me because I was right. They know it and so does everybody with a brain. Ross had to say what he said. Done deal.

The Perry only boards I can give two shits about. They hated me before Tapegate, then miraculously loved me during TG, and now back to hating. Like I give a shit about a bunch of Loons.

Why are you even here HOTS? Give me ONE reason.

Because TJF closed. It's all Franks fault!!!

[Granny]

NO matter what some of you say to personally tear him down ,you will NEVER be able to take away what he has accomplished in his music carreer. He will always have fans that love him ad support him, even if NONE of you do! It really says MORE about the kind of people you are to have to resort to being this mean spirited towards someone you don't know personally.

And those of you that SAY you are Perry fans that sit idly by and ''let" some of your buddies here tear him down without saying anything to stand up for Perry are just as bad as the ones saying all the negative crap about him.

Hey Tard, we DO appreciate what he did. We WANT his legacy to remain intact. We DON'T want to beat off to his visits to studios.

Again, you missed the point you fuckin stupid shit.

NO , you don't appreciate what he accomplished, NOR are you keeping his legacy intact either by BASHING HIM! Your ACTIONS don't match your WORDS!!!

AGAIN, those that CLAIM to be Perry fans that sit idly by, NOT speaking up, while you and some others tear Perry down, are just as "equally guilty", as you and anyone else here that tears him down.

PP-
you just don't get it...we are all so hurt by what he did that we just have to vent...EVERYONE here loves what he has done with his voice and music and want to keep the memory intact...its just that some of our hearts miss his voice and contribution to the Journey catalog and are saddened that we will NEVER hear it again. We lost something that we will not
get back, EVER...we are not tearing him down...just hurt and angry that he strings us along...

SO let me get this straight because you are 'hurt and angry", with Perry because he is not singing for you and THINK he is stringing you along , this gives the right for others to continually bash Perry on this board. You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

You know I don't claim to know how Perry feels, but I'll tell you what, if I were in Perry's shoes, I wouldn't sing for ANY of you on this board! And if JSS was treated & talked about like Perry is on this board, I bet he wouldn't sing for ANY of you either.

NO, not because he doesn't sing, but how he left the band and his fans...I adore him, just ask anyone on here...He doesn't have to sing now or ever, since he "probably" can't sing the same way as before....He just teases us with his remarks! I am retired and I am the same age as he is...he should be allowed to retire in peace and do what he wants with his life, just like I'm doing.

[heardonthestreet]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

Oh, it's been substantiated all right. And the only discord is among the people who can't let Perry go. In one breath, Loons say that he is entitled to do whatever he wants and we should be happy for him. Then come reports of him growing his hair, visiting a recording studio, Uncle Joe saying he can still sing, etc. I don't really care either way, just pick a side. Do you want him to enjoy his "retirement" or do you want to "keep hope alive" for an unlikely comeback?

All of the above. Hope springs eternal. Whatever happens, happens. Hope against hope. Never say die. Who really knows?

Jesus promised to return and you don't find people giving him a hard time or questioning his motives. Just stare at bryool's avatar and you'll find peace.

[heardonthestreet]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

So I am hated everywhere on the net pertaining to Journey? Not hardly.

BT hates me because I was right. They know it and so does everybody with a brain. Ross had to say what he said. Done deal.

The Perry only boards I can give two shits about. They hated me before Tapegate, then miraculously loved me during TG, and now back to hating. Like I give a shit about a bunch of Loons.

Why are you even here HOTS? Give me ONE reason.

Because I'm waiting to see if JSS can teach the band how to play to a singer again. They couldn't with Augeri so I'm waiting to see if JSS can show them how again.

[Granny]

Horse shit!
What Dean has contributed is unsubstantiated rumors about a much loved band and discord among Journey's many fans. He has established a small cult following of questionable life forms here and only here and is thought very badly of most anywhere else on the net, where journey is concerned. Since the band has denied allegations, Dean has been getting a justly deserved reputation on anything concerning Journey and it's nothing to be proud of.

So I am hated everywhere on the net pertaining to Journey? Not hardly.

BT hates me because I was right. They know it and so does everybody with a brain. Ross had to say what he said. Done deal.

The Perry only boards I can give two shits about. They hated me before Tapegate, then miraculously loved me during TG, and now back to hating. Like I give a shit about a bunch of Loons.

Why are you even here HOTS? Give me ONE reason.

Because I'm waiting to see if JSS can teach the band how to play to a singer again. They couldn't with Augeri so I'm waiting to see if JSS can show them how again.

HOTS, we will let u know about that after we see them Saturday...are u attending? probably not, huh??????

[PROPERRY]

NO matter what some of you say to personally tear him down ,you will NEVER be able to take away what he has accomplished in his music carreer. He will always have fans that love him ad support him, even if NONE of you do! It really says MORE about the kind of people you are to have to resort to being this mean spirited towards someone you don't know personally.

And those of you that SAY you are Perry fans that sit idly by and ''let" some of your buddies here tear him down without saying anything to stand up for Perry are just as bad as the ones saying all the negative crap about him.

Hey Tard, we DO appreciate what he did. We WANT his legacy to remain intact. We DON'T want to beat off to his visits to studios.

Again, you missed the point you fuckin stupid shit.

NO , you don't appreciate what he accomplished, NOR are you keeping his legacy intact either by BASHING HIM! Your ACTIONS don't match your WORDS!!!

AGAIN, those that CLAIM to be Perry fans that sit idly by, NOT speaking up, while you and some others tear Perry down, are just as "equally guilty", as you and anyone else here that tears him down.

PP-
you just don't get it...we are all so hurt by what he did that we just have to vent...EVERYONE here loves what he has done with his voice and music and want to keep the memory intact...its just that some of our hearts miss his voice and contribution to the Journey catalog and are saddened that we will NEVER hear it again. We lost something that we will not
get back, EVER...we are not tearing him down...just hurt and angry that he strings us along...

SO let me get this straight because you are 'hurt and angry", with Perry because he is not singing for you and THINK he is stringing you along , this gives the right for others to continually bash Perry on this board. You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

You know I don't claim to know how Perry feels, but I'll tell you what, if I were in Perry's shoes, I wouldn't sing for ANY of you on this board! And if JSS was treated & talked about like Perry is on this board, I bet he wouldn't sing for ANY of you either.

NO, not because he doesn't sing, but how he left the band and his fans...I adore him, just ask anyone on here...He doesn't have to sing now or ever, since he "probably" can't sing the same way as before....He just teases us with his remarks! I am retired and I am the same age as he is...he should be allowed to retire in peace and do what he wants with his life, just like I'm doing.

Exactly, he has the right to do what he wants with his life,just like you. The only difference is that NO ONE is publicly bashing YOU on a public forum for doing what you want with your life, but your buddies are continually bashing Perry for his choices and they've been doing it for years on this board!

[Rockindeano]

Exactly, he has the right to do what he wants with his life,just like you. The only difference is that NO ONE is publicly bashing YOU on a public forum for doing what you want with your life, but your buddies are continually bashing Perry for his choices and they've been doing it for years on this board!

O well. He needs to stop being a dick. No one here has ever bashed Steve perry's talents. It's impossible to do.

[ohsherrie]

it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him,

Or it could just mean that some of us are choosing not to take the bait and/or be the source() of the weekend's entertainment.

[Deb]

You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

Whatchu talkin bout!!!

Actually PP, that sentence above is rediculous, you think that just because somebody isn't posting back that they are agreeing with what is posted? There could be many reasons for people not to post. They might be too shy, they might actually think the post was so assinine that it doesn't deserve a response, or they may agree with it. Everybody has differing views. Don't get me wrong I definately don't agree with most of the shit that was posted in this thread by a long shot. And there isn't one person on this board that would be able to convince me Perry is an asshole or shitty to his fans......JUST A FACT!

But if somebody wants to vent, I have the choice of either posting back or not or even just ignoring the thread all together. SJ wanted a reaction and he got one.....pretty simple. LOL and for the record SJ, if you were standing in front of me right now I'd slap your ass!

[PROPERRY]

You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

Whatchu talkin bout!!!

Actually PP, that sentence above is rediculous, you think that just because somebody isn't posting back that they are agreeing with what is posted? There could be many reasons for people not to post. They might be too shy, they might actually think the post was so assinine that it doesn't deserve a response, or they may agree with it. Everybody has differing views. Don't get me wrong I definately don't agree with most of the shit that was posted in this thread by a long shot. And there isn't one person on this board that would be able to convince me Perry is an asshole or shitty to his fans......JUST A FACT!

But if somebody wants to vent, I have the choice of either posting back or not or even just ignoring the thread all together. SJ wanted a reaction and he got one.....pretty simple. LOL and for the record SJ, if you were standing in front of me right now I'd slap your ass!

Yea there could be many reasons not to post, like "one reason" being afraid to post for fear of being personally attacked , so they make the choice to stay silent, and SOME even make the choice to be buddies with those that "degrade" their singer all over the board. I guess it is better for them to go along & "fit in with the crowd".

As for me, I will continue to speak up, even though, I'm not accepted as part of this vicious crowd! That is ok by me!

As for you buddies "venting", as you call it, that 's NOT venting! That is bashing & tearing a person down all for their own personal fun on this board

[treetopovskaya]

You say that you are NOT bashing him, BUT you are , it is your silence that speaks loud and clear that you agree with Deano and the others that it is OK to bash him, all because he doesn't sing for you. Rediculous, just rediculous!!

Whatchu talkin bout!!!

Actually PP, that sentence above is rediculous, you think that just because somebody isn't posting back that they are agreeing with what is posted? There could be many reasons for people not to post. They might be too shy, they might actually think the post was so assinine that it doesn't deserve a response, or they may agree with it. Everybody has differing views. Don't get me wrong I definately don't agree with most of the shit that was posted in this thread by a long shot. And there isn't one person on this board that would be able to convince me Perry is an asshole or shitty to his fans......JUST A FACT!

But if somebody wants to vent, I have the choice of either posting back or not or even just ignoring the thread all together. SJ wanted a reaction and he got one.....pretty simple. LOL and for the record SJ, if you were standing in front of me right now I'd slap your ass!

oh god! jss looks like my dad! in that pic deb & especially in this pic...



i don't have a pic of him on our pc. i'll post it soon so you can see. damn.

my brother looks like orlando bloom. that just ruins it for me! };C))

okay... regarding steve perry. leave the poor guy alone already. }:C)

[styxman]

Hey Pro, I for one don't stick with the crowd, I think SJ is a dumb fuck, he knows that. As for Perry, he owes me nothin' and if I happened to bump into the guy I'd say thanks for the music dude..but one thing, get some better PR, it's a fuckin' mess dude, Q&A on a yearly basis...fuck off outta here...it's a load of bollocks:roll:

[NealIsGod]

As for me, I will continue to speak up, even though, I'm not accepted as part of this vicious crowd! That is ok by me!

Then stop whining when you call people out and get your ass handed to you.

[Deb]

As for your buddies "venting", as you call it, that 's NOT venting! That is bashing & tearing a person down all for their own personal fun on this board

I just see it for what it is. FRUSTRATION! I think I've been reading Dean's, Ed's and St. Johns posts long enough to see how they really feel about Perry. Do I agree with how they vent their frustration, NO! But hey, do they agree with how we gush, NO! Both sides have to suck it up a bit. It's a mars/venus thing. We gush, they vent.

Besides Properry, the only way it really becomes personal fun for them is when you react and post back as you do.

[nikki]

I'm not sure I understand all the negativity towards SP on the Journey boards. Isn't he part of the reason we are all here as fans? His time with the band is over, and all this dwelling on him and the past is a waste of time. Journey is on to bigger and better things now. It's best to let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the exciting changes within a consistently good group of musicians.

[Rick]

I'm not sure I understand all the negativity towards SP on the Journey boards. Isn't he part of the reason we are all here as fans? His time with the band is over, and all this dwelling on him and the past is a waste of time. Journey is on to bigger and better things now. It's best to let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the exciting changes within a consistently good group of musicians.

Yep, he is part of the reason we are all here. He's been accused of a lot of misdeeds though. If the band had it their way, they would have made a lot more records in the 80's, but they couldn't get SP to go to work. He (SP) knew his voice was going, and just kind of walked away from it. Left the rest of the band with huge bills to pay and at least one bankruptcy. Left the fans flapping in the breeze too. There's some resentment, but overall, the people here generally appreciate Perry for what he did give his fans.

[Rockindeano]

Yep, he is part of the reason we are all here. He's been accused of a lot of misdeeds though. If the band had it their way, they would have made a lot more records in the 80's, but they couldn't get SP to go to work. He (SP) knew his voice was going, and just kind of walked away from it. Left the rest of the band with huge bills to pay and at least one bankruptcy. Left the fans flapping in the breeze too. There's some resentment, but overall, the people here generally appreciate Perry for what he did give his fans.

Brilliantly said. Bravo.

[junky]

Yep, he is part of the reason we are all here. He's been accused of a lot of misdeeds though. If the band had it their way, they would have made a lot more records in the 80's, but they couldn't get SP to go to work. He (SP) knew his voice was going, and just kind of walked away from it. Left the rest of the band with huge bills to pay and at least one bankruptcy. Left the fans flapping in the breeze too. There's some resentment, but overall, the people here generally appreciate Perry for what he did give his fans.

Brilliantly said. Bravo.

Yep, I just want to add that Perry puts himself out there by doing those Q&A's answering questions about kitties, gravy and coffee, but playing coy about his professional side. He can do what he wants, but why not be straight forward with his fans about it? Year after year, he says one thing and does another. I'm sorry, but I feel like he's insulting my intelligence.

Perry can't have it both ways. He puts it out there, he's going to get it back.

If Neal or Jeff did Q&A's like Perry does, they would have their asses handed to them on a plate by pretty much everyone on this board.

[Rick]

I wish Neal and Jon would drive down there and kidnap Perry, drag his ass into the studio and make him sing some music. Keep JSS because he's the best frontman you could ask for and we all know Perry won't tour.

[Granny]

I'm not sure I understand all the negativity towards SP on the Journey boards. Isn't he part of the reason we are all here as fans? His time with the band is over, and all this dwelling on him and the past is a waste of time. Journey is on to bigger and better things now. It's best to let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the exciting changes within a consistently good group of musicians.

Yep, he is part of the reason we are all here. He's been accused of a lot of misdeeds though. If the band had it their way, they would have made a lot more records in the 80's, but they couldn't get SP to go to work. He (SP) knew his voice was going, and just kind of walked away from it. Left the rest of the band with huge bills to pay and at least one bankruptcy. Left the fans flapping in the breeze too. There's some resentment, but overall, the people here generally appreciate Perry for what he did give his fans.

Shoot, thank you for saying it so eleqountely! There will never be another SP...If his voice was going he did the right thing by walking away and not make a fool of himself...