Just To Be Fair......

[tammy]

ah, yeah, some of us Perry fans are doing other things than living on this forum...excuse me, I need to cough again - got Bronchitis & one sick child crawling on me...do I think this thread topic is stupid?? YES! For god's sake. I love SP, I love Journey and I don't think I need to be wasting my time fighting over it with people who just want to get drunk & post stupid shit to get a reaction & attention. This should get Andrew's ulcer going again - or give him one!
Isn't it a nice Saturday where any of you live? Go out & do something before you live to regret it. And, as far as SP is concerning his fans - he has proven to be an extraordinary man in that respect - he never seems to fail to be grateful - and, he doesn't have to share every damn little thing & decision about his life with the public! You guys think you have some sort of power by being on this forum - it is downright scary.

[Saint John]

I think I need to clarify my stance(s) regarding Perry. Steve Perry is the greatest voice I've ever heard. No one is even a close second. Schon and Perry compliment each other like peanut butter and jelly. They're the greatest combination in music history. They were simply meant to work together. Steve Perry is also one hell of an all around artist and he is the best I've heard at emoting a song. His voice simply has some resonance that sings through you, rather than at you.

Now for Steve Perry the person. For the better part of 20 years he has played cat and mouse with the band and their fans. He constantly sidesteps difficult questions with ambiguous answers. Furthermore, he leaves the door open enough to make sure there is enough speculation as to not let the band establish a new identity. It'll be difficult enough for the band to ever do that as it is, but Perry pops in JUST enough to make SURE it never happens. He's an egotistical prick that acts like a little kid in that because HE can't go on, he does everything in his power to make sure the band doesn't. That's adolescent bullshit. This shit would never fly with ANY other fanbase. He's lucky there are enough middle-aged women to fawn over his fake ass. He simply can't do anything wrong in their eyes. I simply choose to call a spade a spade.

PS Styxman, I ever see you...there's gonna be a problem. Not a threat, a promise.

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

[Rockindeano]

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

Hell yes!

[Liam]

Nice Mexican AV, bro.

[Granny]

I think I need to clarify my stance(s) regarding Perry. Steve Perry is the greatest voice I've ever heard. No one is even a close second. Schon and Perry compliment each other like peanut butter and jelly. They're the greatest combination in music history. They were simply meant to work together. Steve Perry is also one hell of an all around artist and he is the best I've heard at emoting a song. His voice simply has some resonance that sings through you, rather than at you.

Now for Steve Perry the person. For the better part of 20 years he has played cat and mouse with the band and their fans. He constantly sidesteps difficult questions with ambiguous answers. Furthermore, he leaves the door open enough to make sure there is enough speculation as to not let the band establish a new identity. It'll be difficult enough for the band to ever do that as it is, but Perry pops in JUST enough to make SURE it never happens. He's an egotistical prick that acts like a little kid in that because HE can't go on, he does everything in his power to make sure the band doesn't. That's adolescent bullshit. This shit would never fly with ANY other fanbase. He's lucky there are enough middle-aged women to fawn over his fake ass. He simply can't do anything wrong in their eyes. I simply choose to call a spade a spade.

PS Styxman, I ever see you...there's gonna be a problem. Not a threat, a promise.

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

Pam, since u won't be there next week, should I step in and take your place and slap his ass? lol

[Saint John]

I think I need to clarify my stance(s) regarding Perry. Steve Perry is the greatest voice I've ever heard. No one is even a close second. Schon and Perry compliment each other like peanut butter and jelly. They're the greatest combination in music history. They were simply meant to work together. Steve Perry is also one hell of an all around artist and he is the best I've heard at emoting a song. His voice simply has some resonance that sings through you, rather than at you.

Now for Steve Perry the person. For the better part of 20 years he has played cat and mouse with the band and their fans. He constantly sidesteps difficult questions with ambiguous answers. Furthermore, he leaves the door open enough to make sure there is enough speculation as to not let the band establish a new identity. It'll be difficult enough for the band to ever do that as it is, but Perry pops in JUST enough to make SURE it never happens. He's an egotistical prick that acts like a little kid in that because HE can't go on, he does everything in his power to make sure the band doesn't. That's adolescent bullshit. This shit would never fly with ANY other fanbase. He's lucky there are enough middle-aged women to fawn over his fake ass. He simply can't do anything wrong in their eyes. I simply choose to call a spade a spade.

PS Styxman, I ever see you...there's gonna be a problem. Not a threat, a promise.

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

Pam, since u won't be there next week, should I step in and take your place and slap his ass? lol

Carol, you have an "open invitation" to spank, slap, etc. any time you'd like. Where have I heard the term "open invitation" before?

[heardonthestreet]

I think I need to clarify my stance(s) regarding Perry. Steve Perry is the greatest voice I've ever heard. No one is even a close second. Schon and Perry compliment each other like peanut butter and jelly. They're the greatest combination in music history. They were simply meant to work together. Steve Perry is also one hell of an all around artist and he is the best I've heard at emoting a song. His voice simply has some resonance that sings through you, rather than at you.

Now for Steve Perry the person. For the better part of 20 years he has played cat and mouse with the band and their fans. He constantly sidesteps difficult questions with ambiguous answers. Furthermore, he leaves the door open enough to make sure there is enough speculation as to not let the band establish a new identity. It'll be difficult enough for the band to ever do that as it is, but Perry pops in JUST enough to make SURE it never happens. He's an egotistical prick that acts like a little kid in that because HE can't go on, he does everything in his power to make sure the band doesn't. That's adolescent bullshit. This shit would never fly with ANY other fanbase. He's lucky there are enough middle-aged women to fawn over his fake ass. He simply can't do anything wrong in their eyes. I simply choose to call a spade a spade.

PS Styxman, I ever see you...there's gonna be a problem. Not a threat, a promise.

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

St.John.
It's not only middle aged women who respect Perry for the person he is or was. He and the band were just something that happened and only happens once. For some people, that's just a once in a lifetime event.
I believe that he gave Journey all he had. I believe that Augeri gave Journey all he had to give. It's a voice, not something that can be replaced when over used. If the guys in the band didn't prepare for a future without Perry, after all those years, that is their problem. Since when is bad investments, drugs and divorce a frontmans responsibility to his bandmates.
They brokeup in 83, added a little fluff with ROR and reunited for a great album, for most people anyway,with TBF. He didn't want to make music everything in his life and didn't want to be a rock&roll casuality. So far he has accomplished all of this and if he is not at all positive that he is finished with singing, he shouldn't state that he is. If he has nothing to say that he wants to put into a song, that's his perogative.
He has not left anyone hanging. He probably doesn't know anymore than we do, just what tomorrow will bring.
He has not held the band back. Augeri fans will tell you this is not so. Soto fans will tell you this isn't happening.
If what you are posting is frustration, then it's pretty sad that you have to stoop so low to show it as you do.

[Saint John]

I think I need to clarify my stance(s) regarding Perry. Steve Perry is the greatest voice I've ever heard. No one is even a close second. Schon and Perry compliment each other like peanut butter and jelly. They're the greatest combination in music history. They were simply meant to work together. Steve Perry is also one hell of an all around artist and he is the best I've heard at emoting a song. His voice simply has some resonance that sings through you, rather than at you.

Now for Steve Perry the person. For the better part of 20 years he has played cat and mouse with the band and their fans. He constantly sidesteps difficult questions with ambiguous answers. Furthermore, he leaves the door open enough to make sure there is enough speculation as to not let the band establish a new identity. It'll be difficult enough for the band to ever do that as it is, but Perry pops in JUST enough to make SURE it never happens. He's an egotistical prick that acts like a little kid in that because HE can't go on, he does everything in his power to make sure the band doesn't. That's adolescent bullshit. This shit would never fly with ANY other fanbase. He's lucky there are enough middle-aged women to fawn over his fake ass. He simply can't do anything wrong in their eyes. I simply choose to call a spade a spade.

PS Styxman, I ever see you...there's gonna be a problem. Not a threat, a promise.

PSS Strungout, you're MORE than welcome to "slap my ass." In fact, you're invited.

St.John.
It's not only middle aged women who respect Perry for the person he is or was. He and the band were just something that happened and only happens once. For some people, that's just a once in a lifetime event.
I believe that he gave Journey all he had. I believe that Augeri gave Journey all he had to give. It's a voice, not something that can be replaced when over used. If the guys in the band didn't prepare for a future without Perry, after all those years, that is their problem. Since when is bad investments, drugs and divorce a frontmans responsibility to his bandmates.
They brokeup in 83, added a little fluff with ROR and reunited for a great album, for most people anyway,with TBF. He didn't want to make music everything in his life and didn't want to be a rock&roll casuality. So far he has accomplished all of this and if he is not at all positive that he is finished with singing, he shouldn't state that he is. If he has nothing to say that he wants to put into a song, that's his perogative.
He has not left anyone hanging. He probably doesn't know anymore than we do, just what tomorrow will bring.
He has not held the band back. Augeri fans will tell you this is not so. Soto fans will tell you this isn't happening.
If what you are posting is frustration, then it's pretty sad that you have to stoop so low to show it as you do.

I agree with most of your post. HOWEVER, after 11 fuckin' years, you would think he could have made a decision regarding Journey. I think he HAS, but he won't give the band the benefit of completely moving out of his shadow. He chooses not to perform, but needs to feed his ego by being "missed." Just when you think he's gone, BAM, he pops up again. As far as "bad investments, drugs and divorces" goes, I'd bet my right nut that they're happier than Steve Perry. The remaining band members have the balls to DO what they love and not TALK about how they "miss it so badly." The only thing holding Steve Perry back is Steve Perry's fragile little persona. Deano is DEAD WRONG about Perry not having the voice to sing. He does....he just doesn't have the marbles to perform at about 80% of what he once was. He could still perform at, or very closely to what he was from about 83-86.

And yes, I am frustrated. Frustrated at being left hanging because Perry chooses to continue to play cat and mouse with Schon and Friga. As for "stooping so low" I am merely presenting an opnion that I deem to be fairly accurate. Steve Perry could piss down your back and tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.

PS Change your sig. to "Sebastian" Bach. At least spell the fuckin' guys name right. Dumbass.

[heardonthestreet]

Thanks! I fixed it.

He's not playing cat and mouse with Neal and Jon. He told Jon that "There's no going back." He told us that "the divorce was final". They're not waiting for him. What's the problem?

[Rick]

Thanks! I fixed it.

He's not playing cat and mouse with Neal and Jon. He told Jon that "There's no going back." He told us that "the divorce was final". They're not waiting for him. What's the problem?

True, but the band has the open door policy where SP is concerned. 'He's welcome to sing with them whenever he wants.' That, I think keeps people watching him closer than if it wasn't the policy. I realize SP is an incredible talent, but I bet the boy had no idea he would still at this time in his life, after so many years of absence, be in such demand.

[ohsherrie]

HOWEVER, after 11 fuckin' years, you would think he could have made a decision regarding Journey.

He has. He's said over and over that he no longer has anything to do with Journey and has no plans to ever have anything more to do with Journey. He has never given anyone any reason to think he would ever be back with Journey. Neal with his "open invitations" has done more to keep the hope some have of a reunion alive than anything Perry has ever said.

Any comments he's made about the possibility of recording or singing in any way have been in reference to solo work.

I think you guys who keep harping about Perry's absense and challenging him to sing need to get the fuck over it and move on with Journey. Most of us 'loons are happy with what we have from Perry and excited about about what we are now expecting from Journey.

[Rockindeano]

Deano is DEAD WRONG about Perry not having the voice to sing. He does....he just doesn't have the marbles to perform at about 80% of what he once was. He could still perform at, or very closely to what he was from about 83-86.

As for my MR life, I am more positive than anything about him not being able to sing. He can't. Now, if you want to call me out on this which you just did, then I will ask you this: I thought we all could expect something BIG from perry this year. You told us he was working on something or coming back. Sorry bud, let it go.

[Rockindeano]

Thanks! I fixed it.

He's not playing cat and mouse with Neal and Jon. He told Jon that "There's no going back." He told us that "the divorce was final". They're not waiting for him. What's the problem?

True, but the band has the open door policy where SP is concerned. 'He's welcome to sing with them whenever he wants.' That, I think keeps people watching him closer than if it wasn't the policy. I realize SP is an incredible talent, but I bet the boy had no idea he would still at this time in his life, after so many years of absence, be in such demand.

You all just are so fucking stupid sometimes. You don't think Neal knows or doesn't know about Peryy's singing capapbilities? He does folks, and that's precisely why he invited him out to sing....because he knows that it will never happen.

[heardonthestreet]

Thanks! I fixed it.

He's not playing cat and mouse with Neal and Jon. He told Jon that "There's no going back." He told us that "the divorce was final". They're not waiting for him. What's the problem?

True, but the band has the open door policy where SP is concerned. 'He's welcome to sing with them whenever he wants.' That, I think keeps people watching him closer than if it wasn't the policy. I realize SP is an incredible talent, but I bet the boy had no idea he would still at this time in his life, after so many years of absence, be in such demand.

You all just are so fucking stupid sometimes. You don't think Neal knows or doesn't know about Peryy's singing capapbilities? He does folks, and that's precisely why he invited him out to sing....because he knows that it will never happen.

Neal could always try to talk him into using tapes.

[Red13JoePa]

This is another one now.
When did Sebastian Bach weigh in with the gem your attributing ot him HOTSie?

[Saint John]

Deano is DEAD WRONG about Perry not having the voice to sing. He does....he just doesn't have the marbles to perform at about 80% of what he once was. He could still perform at, or very closely to what he was from about 83-86.

As for my MR life, I am more positive than anything about him not being able to sing. He can't. Now, if you want to call me out on this which you just did, then I will ask you this: I thought we all could expect something BIG from perry this year. You told us he was working on something or coming back. Sorry bud, let it go.

You are correct....sort of. I have a friend who told me he was working in the studio, actually singing. Had I known it was for that horrid GUFF remake I would have never opened my big fuckin' moth. I was wrong. HOWEVER, I've ALSO been told that he sounded fuckin' awesome. Surely good enough to do the catalog more than enough justice for a small tour.

As for the others saying his comments have indicated that his Journey days are over I say BULLSHIT. He's ALSO said "I'm the type who says never say never" and this beauty when asked about Journey:

"I love performing for people. I really always loved performing for people. If it was up to me, totally, then that’s what I would do for the rest of my life. It is just more difficult than that right now than I can explain."


Ummmmmmm....he can't explain it because there's nothing TO explain. Just another way of keeping people hanging. More of his typical, ambiguous bullshit.


And this:

"Would I love to perform again? Of course, I would love to perform again." Ummmmmmmm......then do it or explain why you can't/won't. Seems pretty easy to me.

[squirt1]

He also said in the last year or so that he was taking voice lessons to see what he's got left. In one of the last 2 FanAsylum Q & A's or on Uncle Joe's he was asked about singing with Journey and he used a word ,that to me, sounded like he wasn't sure about it. I will see if I can find it.

[donnaplease]

Thanks! I fixed it.

He's not playing cat and mouse with Neal and Jon. He told Jon that "There's no going back." He told us that "the divorce was final". They're not waiting for him. What's the problem?

True, but the band has the open door policy where SP is concerned. 'He's welcome to sing with them whenever he wants.' That, I think keeps people watching him closer than if it wasn't the policy. I realize SP is an incredible talent, but I bet the boy had no idea he would still at this time in his life, after so many years of absence, be in such demand.

You all just are so fucking stupid sometimes. You don't think Neal knows or doesn't know about Peryy's singing capapbilities? He does folks, and that's precisely why he invited him out to sing....because he knows that it will never happen.

I believe he does know that SP will never re-join them, and that's precisely why he keeps inviting him. It's Neal's opportunity to make SP look like the bad guy, and for him to come across as a little nicer. And thus, it makes SP look like more of an asshole than some people think he already is.

It really doesn't matter what any of us think. We can argue this all night long. But...he's gonna do whatever he wants in his own time. I will continue to respect all that he's previously done with & without Journey and hold out hope that he will sing again some day. It's my right to do so. But, I will also continue to enjoy present-day Journey and look forward to what JSS will add to a new CD.

It IS possible to honor the past, respect the present, and look forward to the future.

[Rockindeano]

Perry could give a shit about fans. He his a heartless motherfucker. Again, I hope Cyndy and Lora aren't reading this....

Go watch that clip Shania posted and listen to Neal fucking Schon speak his mind about wanting to play live. he gets high going out there and performing. That guy gets it. He is the real fucking deal. Must have killed him being up there with Fraudgie.

[Rockindeano]

I think Neal is a little bit pissed about the slant of the fanbase praising the portugese god, and portraying him as an evil guitar player who uses and abuses singers. I will tell you this, when talking to Mr. Schon, he has the utmost respect, adoration for Espee...his talent is evident in Neals' eyes. However, I think Neal gets passed over for being a fucking guitar god. I am almost close tosaying Neal might be a better guitar player than Perry is a singer...meaning I think perry might be in the top 5 of all time, but I would sure as shit put Neal in there as well.

I will always have that guys' back.

[ohsherrie]

I believe he does know that SP will never re-join them, and that's precisely why he keeps inviting him. It's Neal's opportunity to make SP look like the bad guy, and for him to come across as a little nicer. And thus, it makes SP look like more of an asshole than some people think he already is.

It really doesn't matter what any of us think. We can argue this all night long. But...he's gonna do whatever he wants in his own time. I will continue to respect all that he's previously done with & without Journey and hold out hope that he will sing again some day. It's my right to do so. But, I will also continue to enjoy present-day Journey and look forward to what JSS will add to a new CD.

It IS possible to honor the past, respect the present, and look forward to the future.

And there ya go. Closest smiley I could find to a slam dunk.

[donnaplease]

I think Neal is a little bit pissed about the slant of the fanbase praising the portugese god, and portraying him as an evil guitar player who uses and abuses singers. I will tell you this, when talking to Mr. Schon, he has the utmost respect, adoration for Espee...his talent is evident in Neals' eyes. However, I think Neal gets passed over for being a fucking guitar god. I am almost close tosaying Neal might be a better guitar player than Perry is a singer...meaning I think perry might be in the top 5 of all time, but I would sure as shit put Neal in there as well.

I will always have that guys' back.

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

[Rockindeano]

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

No, you still aren't getting it.

How can you say Neal respects Perry, but Perry respects AND loves Neal? You are slanted too.

Come on? Niggy really can't comment, because he has never seen Perry live. There wasn't a better frontman ever, except Elvis and Bruce. Perry live hooked me in, I can tell you that much. However, knowing these guys a little bit now, I love Neal fucking Schon.

[Red13JoePa]

Neal fucking Schon speak his mind about wanting to play live. he gets high going out there and performing. That guy gets it. He is the real fucking deal.

You know what? Maybe your finest hour ever.

Neal Schon IS nothing but the real deal.

[donnaplease]

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

No, you still aren't getting it.

How can you say Neal respects Perry, but Perry respects AND loves Neal? You are slanted too.

Come on? Niggy really can't comment, because he has never seen Perry live. There wasn't a better frontman ever, except Elvis and Bruce. Perry live hooked me in, I can tell you that much. However, knowing these guys a little bit now, I love Neal fucking Schon.

Of course I'm slanted. I'm a 'loon'. I say it based on things I've seen & read, and (I know this is gonna sound gay, but...) the song "Anyway". It's just a feeling I have about it all. Of course I don't know any of them, so I just have to react on my intuition.

Here's what I really don't get... You guys talk about how great SP is, but then you trash him like this. It's possible to 'keep it real' without being so damned mean.

[Granny]

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

No, you still aren't getting it.

How can you say Neal respects Perry, but Perry respects AND loves Neal? You are slanted too.

Come on? Niggy really can't comment, because he has never seen Perry live. There wasn't a better frontman ever, except Elvis and Bruce. Perry live hooked me in, I can tell you that much. However, knowing these guys a little bit now, I love Neal fucking Schon.

The two best concerts I was at were #1 BAltimore 2006 when Dean got me tix which were 4th row right in front of Neal...kept my eyes on him the whole time and so did Norm..watching and hearing him play was incredible.
Concert #2 Dean, again, 4th row center right in front of Jeff, another great showman. What a way to be entertained. There is nothing like a LIVE concert...thanks Jeff and Neal.......Granny

[Red13JoePa]

One thing is, I'm pretty damn sure NealIsGod DID catch Journey with perry live. Sure of it.
NIG?


I know I did not, but I have the boots, some good some bad and Captured (which I am FINALLY starting to "GET" that thing smokes), GHL and some soundboards.

[Rockindeano]

Here's what I really don't get... You guys talk about how great SP is, but then you trash him like this. It's possible to 'keep it real' without being so damned mean.

Who's being mean? Who's trashing his music career? I happen to love everything he ever put out. I don't like his personal brush off to the fans. You loons are just blinded.

Seriously, you might want to consider listening with your ears rather than your libidos. People here know what they are saying.

[donnaplease]

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

No, you still aren't getting it.

How can you say Neal respects Perry, but Perry respects AND loves Neal? You are slanted too.

Come on? Niggy really can't comment, because he has never seen Perry live. There wasn't a better frontman ever, except Elvis and Bruce. Perry live hooked me in, I can tell you that much. However, knowing these guys a little bit now, I love Neal fucking Schon.

The two best concerts I was at were #1 BAltimore 2006 when Dean got me tix which were 4th row right in front of Neal...kept my eyes on him the whole time and so did Norm..watching and hearing him play was incredible.
Concert #2 Dean, again, 4th row center right in front of Jeff, another great showman. What a way to be entertained. There is nothing like a LIVE concert...thanks Jeff and Neal.......Granny

Hey!!! I think I was at those shows!!!

[Granny]

I guess it depends on which band member you most closely relate to. Obviously Niggy would have a different perspective than I would, just as a wiggler may look at things differently than you. I DO believe Neal respects SP, as I believe SP not only respects, but loves Neal. Sometimes love isn't enough to keep things together though.

No, you still aren't getting it.

How can you say Neal respects Perry, but Perry respects AND loves Neal? You are slanted too.

Come on? Niggy really can't comment, because he has never seen Perry live. There wasn't a better frontman ever, except Elvis and Bruce. Perry live hooked me in, I can tell you that much. However, knowing these guys a little bit now, I love Neal fucking Schon.

The two best concerts I was at were #1 BAltimore 2006 when Dean got me tix which were 4th row right in front of Neal...kept my eyes on him the whole time and so did Norm..watching and hearing him play was incredible.
Concert #2 Dean, again, 4th row center right in front of Jeff, another great showman. What a way to be entertained. There is nothing like a LIVE concert...thanks Jeff and Neal.......Granny

Hey!!! I think I was at those shows!!!

You might have been...better look at my pics again to make sure!!!!!