Winds of Freedom

[Lula]

It seems unlikely to me that they'd play this song live and then leave it off the album. If Journey are sitting on a stack of unbelievably exciting new songs why didn't they play one of those? No, I reckon they WERE excited about Winds of Freedom and that this is exactly what we can expect from the new record.

And yes Fyre - you are the Founder Member and the President!

Hardly new album material. From what I've gathered this was written strictly for the event. Jeff added his touch, but nothing like I expect to hear from collaborating with Neal and Jon. Jeff can write and I expect much more from the band to showcase their new line up.

[Matthew]

It seems unlikely to me that they'd play this song live and then leave it off the album. If Journey are sitting on a stack of unbelievably exciting new songs why didn't they play one of those? No, I reckon they WERE excited about Winds of Freedom and that this is exactly what we can expect from the new record.

And yes Fyre - you are the Founder Member and the President!

Hardly new album material. From what I've gathered this was written strictly for the event. Jeff added his touch, but nothing like I expect to hear from collaborating with Neal and Jon. Jeff can write and I expect much more from the band to showcase their new line up.

Yes, maybe....

[heardonthestreet]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

What difference does that make? Expressly written does not mean that it has to have limitations. With Journey trying to get noticed again for new music, I expected more from a first effort.

[Matthew]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

weirdo...

I'm honoured to be called that by you, Fyre.

[Matthew]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

What difference does that make? Expressly written does not mean that it has to have limitations. With Journey trying to get noticed again for new music, I expected more from a first effort.

Good point Hots....

[heardonthestreet]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

What difference does that make? Expressly written does not mean that it has to have limitations. With Journey trying to get noticed again for new music, I expected more from a first effort.

Good point Hots....

Do I qualify for admission into your select group of weirdo's?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

It seems unlikely to me that they'd play this song live and then leave it off the album. If Journey are sitting on a stack of unbelievably exciting new songs why didn't they play one of those? No, I reckon they WERE excited about Winds of Freedom and that this is exactly what we can expect from the new record.

And yes Fyre - you are the Founder Member and the President!

Hardly new album material. From what I've gathered this was written strictly for the event.

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

[NealIsGod]

It seems unlikely to me that they'd play this song live and then leave it off the album. If Journey are sitting on a stack of unbelievably exciting new songs why didn't they play one of those? No, I reckon they WERE excited about Winds of Freedom and that this is exactly what we can expect from the new record.

And yes Fyre - you are the Founder Member and the President!

Hardly new album material. From what I've gathered this was written strictly for the event.

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

Overreact much?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

What difference does that make? Expressly written does not mean that it has to have limitations. With Journey trying to get noticed again for new music, I expected more from a first effort.

Good point Hots....

Do I qualify for admission into your select group of weirdo's?

As founding member and president I most definitely would have to confirm your weirdnessship...hood...?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

It seems unlikely to me that they'd play this song live and then leave it off the album. If Journey are sitting on a stack of unbelievably exciting new songs why didn't they play one of those? No, I reckon they WERE excited about Winds of Freedom and that this is exactly what we can expect from the new record.

And yes Fyre - you are the Founder Member and the President!

Hardly new album material. From what I've gathered this was written strictly for the event.

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

Overreact much?

Yes. My blood pressure has been high lately.

I'm not saying anything more over the top than what other people said when SA was lipping. What was the push to get SA out - to save the credibility of the band.

I'm saying the same thing here for the same reasons.

[NealIsGod]

I'm not saying anything more over the top than what other people said when SA was lipping. What was the push to get SA out - to save the credibility of the band.

I'm saying the same thing here for the same reasons.

Because the new song was performed in front of a bunch of freaks wearing big hats and pink pants. Tapegate was a bit more serious, I think you'll agree.

[heardonthestreet]

I was under the impression that this song was expressly written for the America's cup 400th anniversary polo celebration. This was on the Polo cup website for Months as the halftime entertainment. I like how Jeff sings the song, I think the chorus is great and it was appropriate for this event and/or other patriotic events. I would be very surprised if this is on an album!

Ah, okay. I didn't realise that. I'll still be surprised if the songs that do make it on to the album will sound that different from this one though. We'll see...

What difference does that make? Expressly written does not mean that it has to have limitations. With Journey trying to get noticed again for new music, I expected more from a first effort.

Good point Hots....

Do I qualify for admission into your select group of weirdo's?

As founding member and president I most definitely would have to confirm your weirdnessship...hood...?

You know, I never felt like I was part of the ban.....errrrr board but now I feel a kinship. It's a weird feeling.

[Lula]

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

No reason to pack anything up. And lucky for us- you aren't the band.

[Saint John]

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

No reason to pack anything up. And lucky for us- you aren't the band.

Lula, I agree. Much too early to pass ANY judgment, especially considering the song was event specific. If anything needs to get "packed up" it's the irrational idea that Journey would consider doing a "Latin Rhythm" album.

[junky]

OMG.

Journey were invited to play for an event celebrating 400 years of Virginia. They took the time and energy to write a song specifically for that event, a song so specific that they won't be able to recycle it for later use.

Horrible behavior on their part. I'm appalled!!!

Those bastards!!!

[Matthew]

If that's the case then they need to pack it up and go home.

If I'm the band I don't care what the circumstances are. As an artist your signature is written on what you write and perform. Your art is you and you are your art. If JOURNEY has gotten to the point where they're contriving instead of writing then they've lost their artistry and should bow out gracefully.

No reason to pack anything up. And lucky for us- you aren't the band.

Lula, I agree. Much too early to pass ANY judgment, especially considering the song was event specific. If anything needs to get "packed up" it's the irrational idea that Journey would consider doing a "Latin Rhythm" album.

Why is it too early to pass ANY judgement? It's a new line-up performing a new song....

Sure, Winds of Freedom might have been a hack job for some corporate ponce at a polo event...written in five minutes by a band that didn't give a shit....and I can see that this view helps everyone maintain their high expectations for the album...but I agree with Fyre that it would be depressing if this really was Journey's attitude.

Anyway...I think the song is okay myself and my hunch is that the band did write this with some conviction and are actually quite pleased with it.

Maybe JSS could set us straight on this?

[Matthew]

OMG.

Journey were invited to play for an event celebrating 400 years of Virginia. They took the time and energy to write a song specifically for that event, a song so specific that they won't be able to recycle it for later use.

Horrible behavior on their part. I'm appalled!!!

Those bastards!!!

What's so specific about it? I can't make out most of the lyrics....

Also - if they are planning to change their style and approach...wouldn't this have been a good opportunity to test it out?

[dcvader]

Guy's it's a song about Virginia's history for a one-off show. Not a bad song, it is what it is - a special song for a special one-time event. Nothing less nothing more. Imagine the bitching that would take place if they included this song on a new CD. I can hear it now "why would they put that out", "don't they have a song that is not about a specific place or event", "they are a mature group of musicians, they can do better than that with song choices".

As SJ said "Much too early to pass ANY judgment".

I'm glad I was there to hear it live.

[Lula]

OMG.

Journey were invited to play for an event celebrating 400 years of Virginia. They took the time and energy to write a song specifically for that event, a song so specific that they won't be able to recycle it for later use.

Horrible behavior on their part. I'm appalled!!!

Those bastards!!!

LOL! Stop making sense, you'll confuse some

[Matthew]

Guy's it's a song about Virginia's history for a one-off show. Not a bad song, it is what it is - a special song for a special one-time event. Nothing less nothing more. Imagine the bitching that would take place if they included this song on a new CD. I can hear it now "why would they put that out", "don't they have a song that is not about a specific place or event", "they are a mature group of musicians, they can do better than that with song choices".

As SJ said "Much too early to pass ANY judgment".

I'm glad I was there to hear it live.

Well, I don't know about anyone else but there's no bitching about Winds of Freedom from me. I'm one of the few people who actually quite likes the damn song. All I'm saying is that it seems to me to be a reflection of where the band are currently 'at' creatively. In exactly the same place as before.

[StevePerryHair]

You people must just be jealous that some of us got to see something new sung live. It was a nice song written for the occasion and once again some feel like they need to blow it up into contraversy. This gets so old. Maybe the ones who should pack up are the ones who are no longer fans.

[lights1961]

I think its time for the saying GET A LIFE...

I mean disecting a song that was played for an event of SUCH importance to OUR own existance 400 YEARS folks... get it... settlers came in and paved the way for you to be here in this great land called AMERICA....and all some people can do is BITCH if Winds of Freedom is good enough for a CD or not or if it means a new direction for the band and all the other crap that goes on when the band does something exciting...... Thats pitfull,
I THINK its time some of you decide whats truely going on in your little world...

Rick

[dcvader]

Here's my guess: The suits from the "Polo" event say "hey let's get a special song for the event". Jon then looks at a VA history page and and fires this song out in 15 mins.

[Melissa]

I liked it, sounded good from the front of the stage lol.

It's interesting to read others reactions to it though, I've seen where people are afraid Journey won't sound like Journey with Jeff onboard, but here's a song that sounds like Journey & some still don't like it...I'm confused lol j/k

But really, I think it was a great song for what it was written for.

[Matthew]

You people must just be jealous that some of us got to see something new sung live. It was a nice song written for the occasion and once again some feel like they need to blow it up into contraversy. This gets so old. Maybe the ones who should pack up are the ones who are no longer fans.

What's "old" about discussing a brand new Journey song on a Journey messageboard?

And who do you mean by "you people"? There have been a variety of responses to the song.

As for the jealousy...sure, I would have loved to have been there!

[Matthew]

I think its time for the saying GET A LIFE...

I mean disecting a song that was played for an event of SUCH importance to OUR own existance 400 YEARS folks... get it... settlers came in and paved the way for you to be here in this great land called AMERICA....and all some people can do is BITCH if Winds of Freedom is good enough for a CD or not or if it means a new direction for the band and all the other crap that goes on when the band does something exciting...... Thats pitfull,
I THINK its time some of you decide whats truely going on in your little world...

Rick

What the fuck else are we doing here? I'm here to talk about Journey. Aren't you?

[Matthew]

Here's my guess: The suits from the "Polo" event say "hey let's get a special song for the event". Jon then looks at a VA history page and and fires this song out in 15 mins.

Actually....that seems entirely plausible, DC.

[Wally_Hatchet]

did neal hit 2 sour notes??

I heard that too.

[Taliswoman]

Guy's it's a song about Virginia's history for a one-off show. Not a bad song, it is what it is - a special song for a special one-time event. Nothing less nothing more. Imagine the bitching that would take place if they included this song on a new CD. I can hear it now "why would they put that out", "don't they have a song that is not about a specific place or event", "they are a mature group of musicians, they can do better than that with song choices".

As SJ said "Much too early to pass ANY judgment".

I'm glad I was there to hear it live.

Well, I don't know about anyone else but there's no bitching about Winds of Freedom from me. I'm one of the few people who actually quite likes the damn song. All I'm saying is that it seems to me to be a reflection of where the band are currently 'at' creatively. In exactly the same place as before.

I had also read before on the Polo cup Event website (before tix went onsale) that the band was booked to play this event 2 or 3 years ago (as well as the other bands AND sponsors), So I am guessing ...that the song was probably written before the "New lineup" (just guessing - it probably had to be approved and signed off on by the event in advance). It's a decent song, IMO, but hopefully, Not an accurate current reflection.

[StevePerryHair]

You people must just be jealous that some of us got to see something new sung live. It was a nice song written for the occasion and once again some feel like they need to blow it up into controversy. This gets so old. Maybe the ones who should pack up are the ones who are no longer fans.

What's "old" about discussing a brand new Journey song on a Journey messageboard?

And who do you mean by "you people"? There have been a variety of responses to the song.

As for the jealousy...sure, I would have loved to have been there!

What's old is the picking apart every little thing making it a controversy. Like you don't know what I meant. And I'm responding to the threads on this page.