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RockinDeano wrote:Guess I am a fat queer.
whocares wrote:It's an ok song, but hardly leads me to what I could believe would be "the new Journey sound". Its a song written for a specific event, which makes it nearly impossible to figure out what any other music COULD sound like in the future.
If not liking the song makes people fat queers in your opinion, then that's as bad as people saying Paris Hilton is a skank, but you'd still do her.
whocares wrote:It's an ok song, but hardly leads me to what I could believe would be "the new Journey sound". Its a song written for a specific event, which makes it nearly impossible to figure out what any other music COULD sound like in the future.
rap_still_sucks wrote:I've given Winds of Freedom a few listens now, and I think it holds clues about the Journey sound to come. Its a good thing. This song won't be my fave Journey tune, but I will say this about it, it is a decent song, and most important of all, it has the Journey vibe. FINALLY!
Journey has been missing that special vibe for some time now. Now it threatens to come back. That's been the problem all along really. Arrival had some great songs on there but something was just wrong. Sure, the Shirlyisms didn't help, and no matter what Kevin Shirly says, he does not understand the Journey sound, no matter how good a producer he may be. But the main problem with Arrival was the vibe. It was a good album, but that intangible mystical Journey quality was missing.
I think this song shows that new Journey has big potential. We don't just want rockers, or ballads, or midtempo tunes, we want all that, but we want them quality, and we want them to have that Journey mojo. Winds of Freedom has it.
PS.
If you don't like this song you are a big fat queer
rap_still_sucks wrote:RockinDeano wrote:Guess I am a fat queer.
Don't worry bro, you already were. I was only talking to the regular folks on the board.
PS. Infinity wasn't a very rockin album and I guess you probably like it ok. If they got the vibe right, the rockers will be better too, when they get down to it.
Don't be so pessimistic, you baiter.
Blondie wrote:Don't we all love Journey? It strikes me as funny sometimes that arguments ensue over albums and sounds. Do we pick it apart too much? I think that the new album will be great, no matter what.
rap_still_sucks wrote:Carlitto you are a smart guy being stupid. Arrival was a great album, but it wasnt great by Journey standards. I still love it though.
rap_still_sucks wrote: The new song is a B side, no doubt, but a JOURNEY B side. When a band has the right mojo it can make a song like yellow submarine and people will eat it up. As good as Arrival songs were, they lacked magic. There were a lot of ok sounding tunes on Infinity, and most consider it a great album, myself included.
rap_still_sucks wrote:The weird thing is a lot of fans say they want the sound of Escape or Frontiers, then when the band does that (ie Message of Love) people bitch that it sounds like Separate Ways. WTF! I thought Separate Ways qualified as the "Classic Sound!" Hell, I love Message of Love. Separate Ways is so tired it makes me want to puke.
Escape79 wrote:Blondie wrote:Don't we all love Journey? It strikes me as funny sometimes that arguments ensue over albums and sounds. Do we pick it apart too much? I think that the new album will be great, no matter what.
You're right to an extent...but Journey will ALWAYS be picked apart no matter what. This time...it's gonna be MAINLY the Loons AND the Wigglers doing a LOT of the picking.
Blondie wrote:Ok, I may be setting myself up here, but what exactly are Loons and Wigglers?
Carlitto H@kk wrote:Blondie wrote:Ok, I may be setting myself up here, but what exactly are Loons and Wigglers?
Well, I didn't want to touch this one![]()
Oh Hell...
Not sure who came up with it but, essentially,
a 'Loon' is short for 'PerryLoon'.
These are the folks that will not be satisfied
with anything this band does w/o Mr Perry and always
find a way to bring him up in any conversation.
Some are very cool and tolerable while some...
A good sign of a Loon??? Perry Avatar = Loon
Just ask Donna!![]()
Now a Wiggler, a term which I personally created (Thank You Very Much!)
That all started with the housewives at another site always
getting dreamy over Mr Augeri's way-too-feminine stage moves![]()
is the same as a Loon except it is all about Mr Augeri and no one else.
Same rule applies; some a very cool and tolerable while some...
Then you have what I like to call the "Sototarians", fans of Jeff's that
have taken to this new line-up and are VERY excited about the future.
Pretty much a Very Cool Crowd, BTW.
And finally, there are your Journey Fans. These folks aren't very picky.
All they want is to hear new Journey tunes every year or so and catch a
show or 5 every chance they get, regardless of who is singing...
Does that help?
Blondie wrote:Carlitto H@kk wrote:Blondie wrote:Ok, I may be setting myself up here, but what exactly are Loons and Wigglers?
Well, I didn't want to touch this one![]()
Oh Hell...
Not sure who came up with it but, essentially,
a 'Loon' is short for 'PerryLoon'.
These are the folks that will not be satisfied
with anything this band does w/o Mr Perry and always
find a way to bring him up in any conversation.
Some are very cool and tolerable while some...
A good sign of a Loon??? Perry Avatar = Loon
Just ask Donna!![]()
Now a Wiggler, a term which I personally created (Thank You Very Much!)
That all started with the housewives at another site always
getting dreamy over Mr Augeri's way-too-feminine stage moves![]()
is the same as a Loon except it is all about Mr Augeri and no one else.
Same rule applies; some a very cool and tolerable while some...
Then you have what I like to call the "Sototarians", fans of Jeff's that
have taken to this new line-up and are VERY excited about the future.
Pretty much a Very Cool Crowd, BTW.
And finally, there are your Journey Fans. These folks aren't very picky.
All they want is to hear new Journey tunes every year or so and catch a
show or 5 every chance they get, regardless of who is singing...
Does that help?
Yes, actually. Thanks Carl. I don't feel so stupid now.
belar wrote:ramblinwreck wrote: I BE A FAT QUEER TOO!
...annnd welcome to MR...I think...
rap_still_sucks wrote:I've given Winds of Freedom a few listens now, and I think it holds clues about the Journey sound to come. Its a good thing. This song won't be my fave Journey tune, but I will say this about it, it is a decent song, and most important of all, it has the Journey vibe. FINALLY!
Journey has been missing that special vibe for some time now. Now it threatens to come back. That's been the problem all along really. Arrival had some great songs on there but something was just wrong. Sure, the Shirlyisms didn't help, and no matter what Kevin Shirly says, he does not understand the Journey sound, no matter how good a producer he may be. But the main problem with Arrival was the vibe. It was a good album, but that intangible mystical Journey quality was missing.
I think this song shows that new Journey has big potential. We don't just want rockers, or ballads, or midtempo tunes, we want all that, but we want them quality, and we want them to have that Journey mojo. Winds of Freedom has it.
PS.
If you don't like this song you are a big fat queer
Arkansas wrote:What new sound? It's a new song, but just re-arranged Perry-isms. Good, bad, or otherwise, it's the same tired old crap.
Let's hear something really new, and then we can decide.
I honestly don't see Journey going anywhere. By the time they get 'wherever', nobody will care.
later~
Arkansas wrote:What new sound? It's a new song, but just re-arranged Perry-isms. Good, bad, or otherwise, it's the same tired old crap.
Let's hear something really new, and then we can decide.
I honestly don't see Journey going anywhere. By the time they get 'wherever', nobody will care.
later~
Carlitto H@kk wrote:Arkansas wrote:What new sound? It's a new song, but just re-arranged Perry-isms. Good, bad, or otherwise, it's the same tired old crap.
Let's hear something really new, and then we can decide.
I honestly don't see Journey going anywhere. By the time they get 'wherever', nobody will care.
later~
Hey Blondie,
remember in this thread when I earlier explained
to you the definitions for the different types of
fans that come in here???
This would be the rhetoric of a Loon
in it's highest form![]()
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