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Postby SteveForever » Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 am

squirt1 wrote:I have a cousin whose grandaughter is Autistic and also another friend of mine has a son. 4 studies to consider are the relationship to ADD /ADHD, age of parents at conception, damage to the 15th chromosone and the most promising is the relationship of mycoplasmas .If studies prove this out Antiboitics may by the cure. Keep the hope !! Jason McAlwein shows what can be achieved for many . As far as when 1st diagnosed, most likely it was considered somthing else for a long time or underdianosed. It looks like many mental disorders will be found to be caused by these bacteria. It is amazing that we know rabbies goes to the brain and a connection was never made until now for other brain related disorders. DUH???? Google Mycoplasma. God bless you Journey !


right on here about the bacteria and the brain, a friend of mine suffered horribly from OCD, they now believe it all started from a virus. Thanks for the information from everyone, very educational.
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri May 25, 2007 7:18 am

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ohsherrie wrote:There's just too much of it Fyre. It has to be coming from something other than genetics. I'm sure some children are more suseptible to it than others for some genetic reason, but I firmly believe the childhood vaccinations are the trigger or catalyst for the disorder to form.

In other words, I don't think your kids inherited it from you. I think the genetic tendency may be inherent, but not the disorder itself.


One of my daughter's therapists said the same exact thing...that she thinks the vaccines TRIGGER something in them. Of course there's no proof, but that's just her take on it. She believes that it only affects some kids that have a genetic predisposition towards it.

My daughter is a high functioning autistic child, and there are no other instances of autism on either side of the family. Both of my other daughters are developing normally. I don't understand it, really, and all I can do now is get her as much help and therapy as I can.

Frustrating at times, yes. But she can be the most lovable little girl, sometimes even more than her sisters.


There are no known instances of anything autism related in my family either, but known is the key word in that statement. Until recently my nephews symtoms would have continued to be thought of as simply bad behaviour because there wasn't enough information.

There has been something known in my family since the 1700's (that's as far as I've been able to find mention of it) called the "Phillips Trait". The people with it are described in various ways as being unsociable and aloof. After researching the autism spectrum it makes me wonder if maybe this trait is a sign of the genetic predisposition.

Something that was thought of as simply a "quirk" before could be diagnosed as being within the autism spectrum now. It's just all too new and too unknown.
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Postby amaron » Fri May 25, 2007 7:27 am

You'll want to see a Pediatric Neurologist (if you haven't already). They'll end up doing bloodwork for things such as TSH, FreeT4; Plasma Ammonia; Routine Chromosome Analysis, including Fragile X; Torch Profile and Lead levels to try and rule out medical reasons for the Autism.

Sometimes I wonder if every little quirk deserves a diagnosis.
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Postby tammy » Fri May 25, 2007 7:54 am

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According to the information that my sister has been given it seems that Bill Gates has this disorder and it's now suspected that Einstein did too. I guess there are as many different levels of savant-ism as there are within the autism spectrum.



Yes, I heard that Bill Gates probably has Asperger's. After our daughter was diagnosed at 2 yrs old & I learned all about Autism (why did I think it was rare & a boy thing or that the kid would be staring at the wall...we adopted our daughter from a Russian orphanage at 11 mos., but she was rather a happy, smiley baby so I never dreamed there was a major disorder) - she is considered low-functioning Autistic, but I noticed that our friend's son's "peculiarity" was right on for Asperger's. He is smart & talkative but talks at you rather than with you & he is very sensitive to noise & can't stand our noisy daughters. He would go through the roof if he heard Katia's screams, but the few times they come here, his dad takes him outside for the most part. Since he is home-schooled they never knew he was anything but who he is - they hate labels & don't want him to act differently if he knows he is different. But, I differ in that opinion.

There seems to be a lot of adults who discover they are on the Autism spectrum - that is the ones who are functioning in society...mostly Asperger's, as they are the higher functioning Autistics - they just lack the social skills or having trouble recognizing faces or body language from another person. My husband works with engineers & he is certain there is one man who has Asperger's...but, whether or not that man knows it himself - who knows?

The Autism Spectrum is so wide...and the degree varies. We have locks on the frig, all the cabinets, some doors...she gets into everything as if she was still a toddler. She even turned on the gas stove when we were in the other room...I came into the kitchen and heard hissing (I have sinus problems & sometimes can't smell) and said to myself, "what is that noise?" Ack! Now the knobs are removed. Luckily, she doesn't have great finger/hand manipulation or she'd be out the front door.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri May 25, 2007 8:18 am


Thimerosal has been used in the United States since 1929, was first used in vaccinations in 1947, but was phased out of all childhood vaccinations in 2001. Many of us who have autistic children noticed the first signs of change in our children immediately after a vaccination. DPT vaccine was routinely given four times to children before they were eighteen months of age, starting at two months old. This was the recommended dosage during the 1980's. Into the late 1990's, children were also given three doses of Hepatitis B vaccine, as well as doses of the MMR vaccine. All these contained thimerosal. In 1991, the number of required immunizations doubled, making the number of required vaccinations per child, between birth and three years old at 15.

Even though production of NEW vaccinations with more than a "trace" amount of thimerosal was banned in 2001, the innoculations have a relatively long shelf life and are still being used today. NOT ONE pharmaceutical company was required to "pull" their tainted product. Thus, there are STILL children who are being given vaccinations containing thimerosal. As a parent, you need to be aware of this, and make sure no-one administers anything to your child that was produced before 2002.

This means that until 2001, all 15 required childhood vaccinations given from birth to three years of age contained the mercury compound, thimerosal. In addition, ALL FLU SHOTS CONTAINED THIMEROSAL until 2000; many companies still produce FLU SHOTS will thimerosal because that regulation does not apply to flu shots if it's kept to less than 50 parts per million (still five times the highest allowable dose for a child). In fact, you have to do a LOT of reserach to get ahold of flu shots without even a trace of thimerosal; I had to purchase my son's out of state and have them shipped to the Doctor's office - but in order to do that, I had to order an entire case. The cost was extremely prohibitive.

There has been a strong association between the MMR vaccine and autistic symptoms. Also, the DPT vaccine has triggered autistic symptoms as well. Scientists say the number of cases of autism has increased 1,500 percent since 1991 when the number of recommended vaccinations for children doubled. This increase in autism cases parallels the increase in the number and frequency of thimerosal-containing vaccinations administered
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Postby tammy » Fri May 25, 2007 8:35 am

squirt1 wrote:I have a cousin whose grandaughter is Autistic and also another friend of mine has a son. 4 studies to consider are the relationship to ADD /ADHD, age of parents at conception, damage to the 15th chromosone and the most promising is the relationship of mycoplasmas .If studies prove this out Antiboitics may by the cure. Keep the hope !! Jason McAlwein shows what can be achieved for many . As far as when 1st diagnosed, most likely it was considered somthing else for a long time or underdianosed. It looks like many mental disorders will be found to be caused by these bacteria. It is amazing that we know rabbies goes to the brain and a connection was never made until now for other brain related disorders. DUH???? Google Mycoplasma. God bless you Journey !


What do you mean by age of parent's at time of conception? We were told our daughter's birth mother was 18 yrs. old...Autism can come from young and old parents. (BTW, my sister was born right before my mom went into menopause & she is the healthiest & strongest out of all 6 kids!

I tend to believe in the studies that show there is a genetic link...maybe, not directly but it seems to be there. There are many families that have more than one child with Autism, so that & the medical studies are showing this.
Also, they have showed that Autism can afflict anywhere, within any child...there are children in countries that do not have vaccinations that have Autism. Of course, I am not ruling out that there may be outside triggers or environmental. There are more cases of Autism in the state of Calif than the other states! But, whether or not that is because there is a bigger population than other states has to be factored in.

One of our therapists thinks the genetic link is mostly the case - she said that the Internet has connected people who then go on to then marry, whereas before one would have to meet & get to know each other the old-fashioned social way. I'm not sure about her idea (although, she was really the best therapist we had) - one needs reciprocation in affection & communication, so why marry someone who can't? But, then again it is the degree of which they have the disorder.

BTW, I still was scared of vaccinating my 2nd daughter & after I heard about some vacs being preservative-free I asked for them instead -- and, I asked to space the shots out - they give so many at once...I was just being cautious or maybe paranoid...just a born worrier.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri May 25, 2007 9:03 am

What parents of children within the autism spectrum long have known is being validated by the medical establishment in the United States - mercury in immunizations causes autism. Mark Geier fought for years to have the CDC data release what was supposedly public epidemiological data concerning the skyrocketing rates of autism in the United States. His analysis of the data was published in the March 10, 2006, issue of American Physicians and Surgeons. This analysis shows that since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply – by 35 percent.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to children in this number of vaccines would be an amount 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

Between 1989 and 2003, there was an explosion of autism. The incidence of autism (and other related disorders) went from about 1 in 2,500 children to 1 in every 166. Currently there are more than a half million children in the U.S. that have autism. This disorder has devastated families leading to high divorce rates, shortened lives of parents (parents of special needs children live an average of 10 years less than other parents), and reduced standard of living to pay for expensive treatments.

The response of the current Bush administration to this epidemic has been to deny there is an epidemic and try to hide the data from public scrutiny, while at the same time secretly putting in an addendum in to the Homeland Security Act specifically to prevent parents from suing vaccines companies for vaccine damage. Over two years later, no one in the Bush Administration has yet come forth to take responsibility for authoring this addendum which has taken away the civil liberties of families of children with autism to seek compensation for the harm done to their children.

The Bush administration also lobbied on behalf of special interests to defeat legislation that would have required mercury to be removed from the air-borne emissions of coal-firing power plants. About 48 tons of mercury are released into the air annually in the United States from hundreds of coal-burning plants. A study in the journal “Health and Place” found that autism, a developmental disorder marked by communication and social interaction problems, increased in Texas counties as mercury emissions rose, said Claudia Miller, a family and community medicine professor at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio. In areas near the coal burning plants, the rate of autism was 6 times higher than the national average.

In 1999, on the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics and U.S. Public Health Service, thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines as a "precautionary" measure - i.e. without admitting to any causal link between thimerosal and autism.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a concern, as it is still added to some of the most commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu:

"Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible…As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance.”

The FDA allows vaccines to be labeled "mercury-free" even though they can still legally contain a certain amount of mercury, as mercury is actually part of the antiquated process of manufacturing vaccines, which has pretty much remain unchanged over 60 years.

Also, worth noting is that these vaccines have a long shelf-life and the FDA did not issue a recall of the older vaccines containing higher levels of mercury. This means that after 1999 children were still being immunized with unsafe levels of mercury. Although it is less and less likely that children continue to be exposed to these older vaccines, it would be wise to check with the physician to ensure that the vaccines being administered were made after high levels of mercury were removed. Also, flu vaccines without mercury may be requested. Vaccines still containing mercury even if they have been labeled "mercury free", may include DPT, Hepatits B, and HIB. For a list of vaccines, their manufacturers, levels of mercury, and other preservatives the vaccines currently contain (including aluminum, which has been implicated in Alzheimer's and formaldehyde, which is better known as embalming fluid) as provided by the FDA, please click here.

http://autismcoach.com/FDA%20Thimerisol%20Information.htm

The main reason the flu vaccine is still being made with mercury is because the manufacturing plants have not been updated and it costs twice as much to make it mercury free, negatively impacting profits.

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Postby ohsherrie » Fri May 25, 2007 9:17 am

amaron wrote:Sometimes I wonder if every little quirk deserves a diagnosis.


Me too.

I certainly don't mean to in any way diminish the plight of parents of children who are genuinely autistic. It's a huge problem and seems to be getting bigger by the day. I do have to wonder though if, as seems to be the case in most psychological or emotional disorders, autism spectrum isn't beginning to become a catch-phrase for any unusual behavior that can't otherwise be explained or labeled.

I certainly hope we're not, as a society, trying to categorize people to the extent that anyone who doesn't fit into a particular, acceptable mold is labeled and therefore considered less than acceptable.

Just a thought.
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Postby Rick » Fri May 25, 2007 9:41 am

ohsherrie wrote:
amaron wrote:Sometimes I wonder if every little quirk deserves a diagnosis.


Me too.

I certainly don't mean to in any way diminish the plight of parents of children who are genuinely autistic. It's a huge problem and seems to be getting bigger by the day. I do have to wonder though if, as seems to be the case in most psychological or emotional disorders, autism spectrum isn't beginning to become a catch-phrase for any unusual behavior that can't otherwise be explained or labeled.

I certainly hope we're not, as a society, trying to categorize people to the extent that anyone who doesn't fit into a particular, acceptable mold is labeled and therefore considered less than acceptable.

Just a thought.


Excellent point Sherrie. I've had those same thoughts for a while. I think doctors and pharmaceutical companies are creating these "illnesses" to make money from treating them. ADHD? Whatever. Kids have been hyperactive since the earth cooled. Some more than others. The problem now days is the lack of parenting. Our children are being raised by child care workers at daycare centers, who's only care in the world is, when is my shift over? It all started when it became necessary for both parents to work to make a living. The government loved the idea because it basically doubled their tax base. Dr. Spock didn't help matters either.

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Postby Just Mindy » Fri May 25, 2007 10:10 am

Shoot 'em up wrote:Basically, we're all different, with different abilities. To say someone is disabled is wrong. They just have different abilities.


Love what you said here. 8)
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Postby Lula » Fri May 25, 2007 10:41 am

Shoot 'em up wrote:
Basically, we're all different, with different abilities. To say someone is disabled is wrong. They just have different abilities.


I like that 8) .

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Postby Ms_M » Fri May 25, 2007 11:37 am

Lula wrote:
Shoot 'em up wrote:
Basically, we're all different, with different abilities. To say someone is disabled is wrong. They just have different abilities.


I like that 8) .

I am a teacher serving children with special needs.


I didn't know (or remember) that you are a special needs teacher, Lula. My hat's off to you. :D
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Postby chickpea » Fri May 25, 2007 12:00 pm

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:An autistic man's recreation of rome
unbelievable..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DyDpOpzD-zc


That is unbelievable! :shock:
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Postby SteveForever » Fri May 25, 2007 12:18 pm

chickpea wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:An autistic man's recreation of rome
unbelievable..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DyDpOpzD-zc


That is unbelievable! :shock:


Not only did he remember it, he drew so beautifully! what can be said, its just amazing!
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Fri May 25, 2007 7:46 pm

Shoot 'em up wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
amaron wrote:Sometimes I wonder if every little quirk deserves a diagnosis.


Me too.

I certainly don't mean to in any way diminish the plight of parents of children who are genuinely autistic. It's a huge problem and seems to be getting bigger by the day. I do have to wonder though if, as seems to be the case in most psychological or emotional disorders, autism spectrum isn't beginning to become a catch-phrase for any unusual behavior that can't otherwise be explained or labeled.

I certainly hope we're not, as a society, trying to categorize people to the extent that anyone who doesn't fit into a particular, acceptable mold is labeled and therefore considered less than acceptable.

Just a thought.


Excellent point Sherrie. I've had those same thoughts for a while. I think doctors and pharmaceutical companies are creating these "illnesses" to make money from treating them. ADHD? Whatever. Kids have been hyperactive since the earth cooled. Some more than others. The problem now days is the lack of parenting. Our children are being raised by child care workers at daycare centers, who's only care in the world is, when is my shift over? It all started when it became necessary for both parents to work to make a living. The government loved the idea because it basically doubled their tax base. Dr. Spock didn't help matters either.

Basically, we're all different, with different abilities. To say someone is disabled is wrong. They just have different abilities.


There's certainly a lot that's been added to this thread that I want to respond to but don't have the time at the moment.

Personally, I have no problems saying that my children are disabled. When a child doesn't have the ABILITY to interact socially - that's diasabled. For me the biggest thing is to recognize the disability without insulting the disabled.

I believe in MLK's "I have a Dream" but the reality is that we're animals who tend to use our animal instincts more than our humanity and intellectual powers. I'm reminded of this every time we go out in public. Inevitably our son does something autistic that receives looks from others. You know the kind. The look that says, "What's wrong with that kid?" It's not a look that says, "Hey - that kid's just different with different abilities."

I don't care what looks are thrown. Some parents have real difficulty and tend to avoid going out with their children altogether. I have to admit that the first few nistances when looks were thrown hit me hard. Particularly since the first ones came from two little girls at our son's school! I'm probably lying to you and myself right now saying that I don't care. I think deep down I do. However I figure I just have to get on with life which I think is the best way to feed the dream.

Just like your perspective and MLK's dream - maybe one day they'll be the reality. If we keep feeding the dream. Thanks for feeding it here.
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Postby squirt1 » Sat May 26, 2007 6:03 am

It used to be that some thought ADD never really existed back in the '70's. Every parent with a child that is ADD/ADHD knows differently. What I forgot to say is if you google ADD and brain scans,you can see that an ADD brain does not scan as normal.
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Postby tammy » Sat May 26, 2007 11:33 am

FyreWyngz wrote:
I don't care what looks are thrown. Some parents have real difficulty and tend to avoid going out with their children altogether. I have to admit that the first few nistances when looks were thrown hit me hard. Particularly since the first ones came from two little girls at our son's school! I'm probably lying to you and myself right now saying that I don't care. I think deep down I do. However I figure I just have to get on with life which I think is the best way to feed the dream.

Just like your perspective and MLK's dream - maybe one day they'll be the reality. If we keep feeding the dream. Thanks for feeding it here.


Yeah, the looks we've gotten! We rarely go anywhere. It used to be Horrible in restaurants or at friend's homes - she was like the whirling dervish, grabbing everything in sight, damagiing things, sticking her hands in people's drinks, taking their food...
She appears to others as being a very badly behaved kid & I always want to say, "she's autistic!"...sometimes, I do explain. Our girl grabs other people's food & drinks at public places...she has gotten better over the years, but last week at the park she grabbed someone's juice sitting there & started drinking, even after we yell, NO! We can only go to parks if my husband goes to - he spends all the time running after her, someone has be right on top of her all the time, while I play with & watch my other girl.
Today I was in a store & I could tell there was an adult man who was Autistic - he was making "strange noises" and saying the same phrase a few times to the clerk, he had another man with him that I could tell was his "shadow" and I struck up a conversation. The Autistic man does speak & he has a job, but he needs someone always to be with him.

We did finally get to Disneyland last Oct., but we had to have a helper with us & even tho we had the special "disability pass" to bypass the regular lines, she still can't stand still & understand wait, so she was throwing herself on the ground & lying there - she is built like a tank & heavy - so hubby or the helper had to pick her up - my back is not great anymore. Once she was on the rides she loved it - she has no sense of fear & she needs that stimulation - when she was younger & in OT (occupational therapy) & could fit in the swing she craved the spinning & never got dizzy - her eyes never rolled around like other people's would! That has to do with the vestibular - what would make anyone else feel dizzy & naseous, it made her feel a sense of her body more...it's like she doesn't feel her body, like it is numb...that's why a lot of Autistics walk & run on their tippy toes. She still does this or she stomps loudly - it seems to make the muscles more rigid or something so they feel the ground more. Most of this knowledge comes from High functioning autistics who can describe it from their experience. Temple Grandin is a well-known Autistic who is a Professor & designer of...she CRAVED the spinning rides at amusement parks & went every day, I believe.
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Wed May 30, 2007 2:41 am

silverblue wrote:
FyreWyngz wrote:
I don't care what looks are thrown. Some parents have real difficulty and tend to avoid going out with their children altogether. I have to admit that the first few nistances when looks were thrown hit me hard. Particularly since the first ones came from two little girls at our son's school! I'm probably lying to you and myself right now saying that I don't care. I think deep down I do. However I figure I just have to get on with life which I think is the best way to feed the dream.

Just like your perspective and MLK's dream - maybe one day they'll be the reality. If we keep feeding the dream. Thanks for feeding it here.


Yeah, the looks we've gotten! We rarely go anywhere. It used to be Horrible in restaurants or at friend's homes - she was like the whirling dervish, grabbing everything in sight, damagiing things, sticking her hands in people's drinks, taking their food...
She appears to others as being a very badly behaved kid & I always want to say, "she's autistic!"...sometimes, I do explain. Our girl grabs other people's food & drinks at public places...she has gotten better over the years, but last week at the park she grabbed someone's juice sitting there & started drinking, even after we yell, NO! We can only go to parks if my husband goes to - he spends all the time running after her, someone has be right on top of her all the time, while I play with & watch my other girl.
Today I was in a store & I could tell there was an adult man who was Autistic - he was making "strange noises" and saying the same phrase a few times to the clerk, he had another man with him that I could tell was his "shadow" and I struck up a conversation. The Autistic man does speak & he has a job, but he needs someone always to be with him.

We did finally get to Disneyland last Oct., but we had to have a helper with us & even tho we had the special "disability pass" to bypass the regular lines, she still can't stand still & understand wait, so she was throwing herself on the ground & lying there - she is built like a tank & heavy - so hubby or the helper had to pick her up - my back is not great anymore. Once she was on the rides she loved it - she has no sense of fear & she needs that stimulation - when she was younger & in OT (occupational therapy) & could fit in the swing she craved the spinning & never got dizzy - her eyes never rolled around like other people's would! That has to do with the vestibular - what would make anyone else feel dizzy & naseous, it made her feel a sense of her body more...it's like she doesn't feel her body, like it is numb...that's why a lot of Autistics walk & run on their tippy toes. She still does this or she stomps loudly - it seems to make the muscles more rigid or something so they feel the ground more. Most of this knowledge comes from High functioning autistics who can describe it from their experience. Temple Grandin is a well-known Autistic who is a Professor & designer of...she CRAVED the spinning rides at amusement parks & went every day, I believe.


I can relate to so much of this. We spend a great deal of time & energy chasing our son around stores, etc. We were just at Wal-Mart and he was running around making a new noise - it sounds like a bird chirping - LOUDLY! A woman walked by and said uncomfortably, "Oh, dear - he sounds like a bird."

Nice.

If the moment allows I take a second or two to explain as you've pointed out. Cristian can actually sit still for a haircut. This is only after SO MANY haircuts where I've physically had to sit him in my lap and wrap my arms AND legs around him. Like I've said before - I'm something of a persistent bastard and I do what I need to help him get where he needs to be. Anyway, we recently had a new person cut him and she was young and ignorant to recognize his special needs. This annoys me as people who are in the business of personal services ought to have a clue. She kept saying, "Why does he do that?" as she struggled to understand why his head would flop or drift back and forth. It's SO OBVIOUS as to WHY but she was just clueless. In these instances I take time to explain as more of an effort to educate than anything else. Typically the mentioning of autism returns even stranger looks with a "What's THAT? Is he like, retarded or sumfin'?"

Yeah. Sumfin' like that.

The spinning thing is wild, isn't it? Cristian used to spin around and I mean FAST like he was on ice skates. He would do this in the living room for 30 minutes EASILY. We'd get sick from just watching him. I first noticed he liked this when he was an infant. I'd spin him around gently and he would laugh harder and harder the more I'd spin him. Oddly, since he's been improving he's almost stopped the spinning. I remember when he was 2 we went into a local K-Mart and he was entranced by the many spinning white ceiling fans in the food court area. We couldn't get him away. He cried like crazy. A few weeks later we went back to the store. I put him on the floor and he went CHARGING through the store. I thought I'd let him go to see where he was off to - right to the fans! He remembered when I can't even remember where I put my keys!

The toe running continues. He's damn fast. At first I thought it was cool and explained to my wife that it makes for good running form as sprinting and footbal requires you to be on your toes. I was a little bummed by it after I learned that it's an autistic thing.

Speaking of restaurants - when Cristian was an infant (about 10 months) we went into a particular Friendly's. When we got to our seats he just began WAILING. I mean he was just beyond loud. We had to leave - he just wouldn't stop. When we left the restaurant he immediately calmed down. We didn't think much of it and returned to the same restaurant about a month later. BAM! We walked in and he began wailing away again. We had to leave! There was SOMETHING in that restaurant that set him off. We'll never know. We've always noticed that with him. For a long time he would NOT go into public restrooms. Don't know if it's the smell or the acoustics or whatever but he would just go into a loud and aggressive tantrum at the MENTION of going in. He's much better now but it's still very difficult. Autistics are hypersensitive I hope one day that he'll be able to explain himself so that we can help him better.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed May 30, 2007 3:17 am

Very educational thread. I won't be so quick to judge kids and parents anymore. Thanks.
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Postby Wildfire » Wed May 30, 2007 3:36 am

NealIsGod wrote:Very educational thread. I won't be so quick to judge kids and parents anymore. Thanks.



This is a very cool thread, not meaning Autism is cool but for what I've learned from it. Thanks.
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