Steve Perry writing music

[Matthew]

I plead innocence b/c Nora I dunno what I'm even talking about when I get into band dynamics but I get a boot out of the huge smattering of pompous perry elitism that it sounds like it comes with it when ever the "play for/to a singer" one's rolled out about journey.

'Salright.

Well, I hate it too.........it smacks of "Diva" to me....and unfortunately, Perry's name is attached to it, in this case.

BUT, it's true.....(from a "decibal / dynamic" point of view.)

What's wrong with elitism? God...I hate all that 'we're all equal' crap....and there's no reason why Perry should have altered his style to suit the drummer. I mean...come on.

[Red13JoePa]

What's wrong with elitism?

It rubs most people the wrong the way, but particularly so when it's unwarranted.

[NoMoreTails]

Did Perry say he had written with Nuno in the early 90s or did he say he was "thinking about it"?
Nuno already recorded "Kid Ego" now he's going to work with Kid Ego...

[SusieP]

And in the Journey section he says, "I left Journey because I just didn't like Steve Perry coming in and telling everybody how to play."

Dunbar got sacked didn't he?

There's three sides to every story.....yours, mine and the truth. That is, everybody puts their own spin on what really happened.

As Red13JoePa sez - Aynsley was playing with things he shouldn't have been. [Allegedly. ]

[Red13JoePa]

No, Herbie Herbert said that, the official band word is they sacked him, and now obviously Dunbar's holding is he quit.

So there's 4 sides to the Ansley saga.

[heardonthestreet]

No, Herbie Herbert said that, the official band word is they sacked him, and now obviously Dunbar's holding is he quit.

So there's 4 sides to the Ansley saga.

Such a gossipy ole bag. How you thrive on this Joe baby. If anyone writes a book on what he said, she said, they said or who did what, I'll know that it must be you.

[Matthew]

What's wrong with elitism?

It rubs most people the wrong the way, but particularly so when it's unwarranted.

Yes, when it's unwarranted...but people who are genuinely brilliant shouldn't ever tone themselves down just in case mediocrities feel put out by it.

[Red13JoePa]

No, Herbie Herbert said that, the official band word is they sacked him, and now obviously Dunbar's holding is he quit.

So there's 4 sides to the Ansley saga.

Such a gossipy ole bag. How you thrive on this Joe baby. If anyone writes a book on what he said, she said, they said or who did what, I'll know that it must be you.

Shut up and mow my lawn.

[heardonthestreet]

What's wrong with elitism?

It rubs most people the wrong the way, but particularly so when it's unwarranted.

Yes, when it's unwarranted...but people who are genuinely brilliant shouldn't ever tone themselves down just in case mediocrities feel put out by it.

Exactly!

[Red13JoePa]

What's wrong with elitism?

It rubs most people the wrong the way, but particularly so when it's unwarranted.

Yes, when it's unwarranted...but people who are genuinely brilliant shouldn't ever tone themselves down just in case mediocrities feel put out by it.

Exactly!

One jackassedly cocky way of looking at it.

So, how's that apply to mr p anyway?

he's a sqare peg in the round hole that is this equation.

[Matthew]

What's wrong with elitism?

It rubs most people the wrong the way, but particularly so when it's unwarranted.

Yes, when it's unwarranted...but people who are genuinely brilliant shouldn't ever tone themselves down just in case mediocrities feel put out by it.

Exactly!

One jackassedly cocky way of looking at it.

So, how's that apply to mr p anyway?

he's a sqare peg in the round hole that is this equation.

What's cocky about it? I'm not saying I'm brilliant, for Christ's sake ...I wish I were...but equally I try not to get all threatened and envious about other people's talent.

How does this apply to Perry? Well, I'd say it applies to Perry and Schon. They were the outstanding talents in the band and as good as the others were it was right that they were kept to a supporting role.

Dunbar couldn't accept this so he had to take a walk and rightly so.

[Lora]

I try not to get all threatened and envious about other people's talent. How does this apply to Perry? Well, I'd say it applies to Perry and Schon.

Matthew - Not everyone sees brilliance in the same place. If the music doesn't reach their soul and move them, you are not ever going to convince them. Why try? It only matters what you feel. I was just reading Nuno's comment about working with Steve:

Nuno - "It was a thrill. Steve was singing and I was playing an acoustic guitar. He just started improvising lines over a chord progression that I had written and I just kept getting lost in his vocals. He is such an amazing talent."

I can well relate to "getting lost in his vocals." Cyndy & I have had the pleasure of watching him work in the studio on a few occasions. During the remastering of the 1981 Houston concert, we were sitting in this small little room at the recording studio, just SP, the engineer and Cyndy & I. The video was playing and Steve & the engineer were working on getting the mix just right. In walks John Kalodner. THE John Kalodner. He sits down and they cue up the play-back of "Open Arms" for him.

Steve is sitting there with his eyes closed while the song is playing and I know he's somewhere else at that moment. The song ends and everyone is sitting in stunned silence. I have tears in my eyes (and "Open Arms" isn't even a favorite of mine.) John Kalodner - a guy who's seen and heard everything - is blown away. Brilliance. Magic.

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

[Lula]

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

So very well said, Lora. Add me to this way of thinking.

[tammy]

I try not to get all threatened and envious about other people's talent. How does this apply to Perry? Well, I'd say it applies to Perry and Schon.

Matthew - Not everyone sees brilliance in the same place. If the music doesn't reach their soul and move them, you are not ever going to convince them. Why try? It only matters what you feel. I was just reading Nuno's comment about working with Steve:

Nuno - "It was a thrill. Steve was singing and I was playing an acoustic guitar. He just started improvising lines over a chord progression that I had written and I just kept getting lost in his vocals. He is such an amazing talent."

I can well relate to "getting lost in his vocals." Cyndy & I have had the pleasure of watching him work in the studio on a few occasions. During the remastering of the 1981 Houston concert, we were sitting in this small little room at the recording studio, just SP, the engineer and Cyndy & I. The video was playing and Steve & the engineer were working on getting the mix just right. In walks John Kalodner. THE John Kalodner. He sits down and they cue up the play-back of "Open Arms" for him.

Steve is sitting there with his eyes closed while the song is playing and I know he's somewhere else at that moment. The song ends and everyone is sitting in stunned silence. I have tears in my eyes (and "Open Arms" isn't even a favorite of mine.) John Kalodner - a guy who's seen and heard everything - is blown away. Brilliance. Magic.

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

You guys are SO lucky to have heard Steve singing in that way. The closest we can get is the "Missing You" song writing session...just brilliant. Really, it is rare that most of us get to hear a singer (especially one so gifted as SP) in such an intimate way. I'm just a fan - I'm not involved in music, I don't have family or friends involved in music, so I can only imagine how wonderful. It is like being moved by a painting or sculpture, but one only gets PART of the experience...how fantastic it would be to actually see the magical process of a masterpiece?

[L~L~L]

Why does anyone need to be labeled? Get over it everyone likes Perry "Goon" or "loon" as you all would put it as far as I can tell everyone seems level headed and just defend what they rightly believe in. There will never be another Steve Perry no matter how hard they try there is only one and we were lucky to have heard, seen & know him. No label needed am just a person who enjoys great talent from a great singer/band.

Never understood all the "you're a goon or you're a loon" crap We are just fans of a great group of great talented men.

[Deb]

I try not to get all threatened and envious about other people's talent. How does this apply to Perry? Well, I'd say it applies to Perry and Schon.

Matthew - Not everyone sees brilliance in the same place. If the music doesn't reach their soul and move them, you are not ever going to convince them. Why try? It only matters what you feel. I was just reading Nuno's comment about working with Steve:

Nuno - "It was a thrill. Steve was singing and I was playing an acoustic guitar. He just started improvising lines over a chord progression that I had written and I just kept getting lost in his vocals. He is such an amazing talent."

I can well relate to "getting lost in his vocals." Cyndy & I have had the pleasure of watching him work in the studio on a few occasions. During the remastering of the 1981 Houston concert, we were sitting in this small little room at the recording studio, just SP, the engineer and Cyndy & I. The video was playing and Steve & the engineer were working on getting the mix just right. In walks John Kalodner. THE John Kalodner. He sits down and they cue up the play-back of "Open Arms" for him.

Steve is sitting there with his eyes closed while the song is playing and I know he's somewhere else at that moment. The song ends and everyone is sitting in stunned silence. I have tears in my eyes (and "Open Arms" isn't even a favorite of mine.) John Kalodner - a guy who's seen and heard everything - is blown away. Brilliance. Magic.

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

That part brought a tear to my eye even just reading it Lora. You and Cyndy's insights and memories are always welcome reading. Thanks for sharing that. Can't imagine never being moved by music, what a loss.

[Playitloudforme]

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

Bingo. Well said.

[Sassie]

I agree. He is an amazing talent and has touched my heart and soul many times. I loved reading that. I also agree that we are lucky to have lived at this time in history. The music is unbelivable. Steve Perry and many many others. I wouldn't have missed it for anything. But he is my favorite! I'm a loon and proud of it. I'm going to make me a bumpersticker!

[Red13JoePa]

I for one can affirm the existence of loons.


journeygoons however, is just a label.

[L~L~L]

I for one can affirm the existence of loons.


journeygoons however, is just a label.

Do share your affirmation and it's basis with actual facts and links please .

[*Laura]

Why does anyone need to be labeled? Get over it everyone likes Perry "Goon" or "loon" as you all would put it as far as I can tell everyone seems level headed and just defend what they rightly believe in. There will never be another Steve Perry no matter how hard they try there is only one and we were lucky to have heard, seen & know him. No label needed am just a person who enjoys great talent from a great singer/band.

Never understood all the "you're a goon or you're a loon" crap We are just fans of a great group of great talented men.

There...The truth,word for word. Great post,thank you.

"I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way."

You caught the essence of how a true Steve Perry fan thinks like.Thank you as well,Lora.

That quote describes the feelings of a lot of people on this board or outside this board,including me,obviously.

[styxman]

Why does anyone need to be labeled? Get over it everyone likes Perry "Goon" or "loon" as you all would put it as far as I can tell everyone seems level headed and just defend what they rightly believe in. There will never be another Steve Perry no matter how hard they try there is only one and we were lucky to have heard, seen & know him. No label needed am just a person who enjoys great talent from a great singer/band.

Never understood all the "you're a goon or you're a loon" crap We are just fans of a great group of great talented men.

Fuck LLL, I've just been initiated into a club that doesn't really exist. Your words madam are the finest I've read in weeks. Lora, by the way, what goes with Perry, your sites like a Burger King on a Vegetarian day...fuck all happening babe?

[styxman]

Lora,

I swear you're like Van Goch at times but with both ears cut off

[styxman]

I trying to prove a point here. Perry himself has to either issue a statement via a blog or an official site/affiliated site or an interview (with Andrew) as to what's going on, either tell us he's decided to pack things in, he's thinking about recording or he is in fact recording. If only to put an end to all these rumours.........look at Soto and learn Mr P, at least we know where the fuck we are with that dude. If I don't hear anything from you in 4 weeks, Mr Soto takes the mantle, once and for all...and you Sir are relegated to what was and will never be again..comprehendo. Give us a fuckin' sign dude.........it's a fuckin' sad way to treat your fans after all the money they've thrown your way...wake the fuck up and respond......and I ain't fuckin' joking here

[Wildfire]

Where is that ole loveable loon from yesterday?

Steve will do something when/if he wants too. I will live my life and if it happens--GREAT--if it doesn't my life will carry on,

[styxman]

I'll tell you more, there's genuine people on here that love your every breath, they live and breath you...they wait on every scrap of info and what do you do.....fuck all..this is a wake up call. You want your privacy fine, just say it and the trustworthy fans will remember you with affection, but say that to them, don't beat around the bush and post it second hand through Q&A's.

It's simple, you were the best singer to ever come out of America, we all know that but you sure as shit don't know how to handle yourself when it comes to PR...sure you'll go throw a ball in Baseball and sing with your buddies there, but what about us, what about the ones that made you who you are now, do we not count, do we not mean fuck all to you. One little interview, that's all we ask, how fuckin hard is that ......Come on dude do it....respect from all if you do. You're the best that ever was, don't let us feel this way for too long. Sam Cooke died dude, way before his time, he didn't have the chance to thank and talk to his fans, you do, remember that

[styxman]

Where is that ole loveable loon from yesterday?

Steve will do something when/if he wants too. I will live my life and if it happens--GREAT--if it doesn't my life will carry on,

Kaituna Hills (New Zealand) 2006 East Coast Rose that's something to do with it.....and I'm fuckin certain Lora's had 5 of them and can't find the key board, Cindy's had six bottles and she's on the next Stones T shirt, so she doesn't give a fuck

[Andrew]

Yes, I believe that Steve is brilliant and that there will never be another like him. I am grateful to have his recordings and will be thrilled if he decides to record again. But I don't care if others feel the same way. That is their personal preference. But guess what? Not everyone who DOES feel it is a loon.

Standing ovation

Post of the week.

[Andrew]

BTW - I can CONFIRM that Nuno has written with Steve in 2007. More info if and when possible.

[NealIsGod]

BTW - I can CONFIRM that Nuno has written with Steve in 2007. More info if and when possible.

Oh, Lord, I think you just made a lot of Loons squawk.