OT - Paris Hilton is released from jail

[Sassie]

I just heard on the news they think she will be going back to jail today. They said the police and the Judge will fight it out and in the end the Judge will win. He will order her back to jail. We'll see I guess.

[Barb]

I just heard on the news they think she will be going back to jail today. They said the police and the Judge will fight it out and in the end the Judge will win. He will order her back to jail. We'll see I guess.

I think I heard that the judge expressly wrote in the setence that house arrest was not an option -- she would serve her time. How does the sheriff have a right to override a judge's order? I think there's a good chance she'll be sent back and told to grow up and suck it up. (no pun intended)

[Playitloudforme]

There's going to be some firings at the Sheriff's office this week... someone really screwed up, and I'd imagine (purely conjecture) that there were dollar signs connected to her getting 'house arrest'. Thou shalt not cross a judge, ya know? Baaaad move.

[DerriD]

I've driven over the .08 limit literally hundreds of times. When I was just out of college I played softball 5 nights a week and went to the bar afterward. I usually had between 8-12 beers and drove about 15 miles home. Zero arrests, zero accidents and zero incidents. Unfortunately, I was nabbed October 18th 2006 by an overzealous prick cop who said I went "beyond the pedestrian white line" while waiting at a red light. This scumbag pulled me over because my car was 3 feet over the thick white line that precedes the pedestrian white lined walkway. I came to find out in court that between 11pm and 5am he literally pulls over EVERY vehicle on Vollmer Road in Flossmoor Illinois. Since 2000, he has given out over 900 DUI's. His ends justify his means even though he is illegally pulling over virtually everyone he nails. I wish that motherfucker nothing but the worst. For the record, I blew .189.

SJ,

I had a DUI about 6 years ago. I'm not sure how they handle it in your neck of the woods, but around here if you are twice legal or above (.16) you have to get an interlock on your car which is a bitch and is expensive. I blew a .11 and I admit that I had no business behind the wheel at all. If you had to go to classes, which I'm sure you did, you know that people who drink ALOT are not the ones who get pulled for DUI's. That's simply because they learn to adapt to driving with a high B.A.C. I wasn't a really heavy drinker, but I drank more than the average. To even be able to get to a .189 is out of the reach of most people. Serious drinkers tend to get pulled by random stops or a quirk (3 feet over the pedestrian line).

My problem with the DUI is that you are getting punished usually for what you could POTENTIALLY do, not necessarily what you did. (Speed, for instance) We have red light cam's here. They give you $50 ticket in the mail, that doesn't count toward insurance points, for violating the rule. It was instituted strictly as a revenue generator. In truth, running a red light at a busy intersection EASILY kills more people than drunk driving. Yet a $50 fine? That is a violation that could be fined higher based on potential, which is what DUI is. Don't get me wrong, DUI is serious. I make no excuses for what I did, and I WILL NOT do it again. But it is politically incorrect as hell, which is another reason why it gets punished so harshly.

[Natalie]

I've driven over the .08 limit literally hundreds of times. When I was just out of college I played softball 5 nights a week and went to the bar afterward. I usually had between 8-12 beers and drove about 15 miles home. Zero arrests, zero accidents and zero incidents. Unfortunately, I was nabbed October 18th 2006 by an overzealous prick cop who said I went "beyond the pedestrian white line" while waiting at a red light. This scumbag pulled me over because my car was 3 feet over the thick white line that precedes the pedestrian white lined walkway. I came to find out in court that between 11pm and 5am he literally pulls over EVERY vehicle on Vollmer Road in Flossmoor Illinois. Since 2000, he has given out over 900 DUI's. His ends justify his means even though he is illegally pulling over virtually everyone he nails. I wish that motherfucker nothing but the worst. For the record, I blew .189.

Hey SJ, just wondering, would you want me taking care of you in a hospital if my BAC were .08?? I highly doubt it. You would want me to be totally on top of things and not impaired at all right? Well the same holds true when you get behind the wheel of a potentially deadly weapon. I don't care if you think you can drive or not, see that's just the problem, when you are impaired, you don't think clearly. I just can't believe that you are blaming the cop for your DUI, who cares why he pulled you over? You were driving impaired, end of story. I also can't believe that you are essentially bragging about it.

My brother lived in Australia for two years and he told me (back me up on this 'Drew) that on holiday weekends they literally have posts set up and every car has to stop and every driver has to take a breathalyzer. I think that's a great idea!

[Saint John]

Way I see it is, if you're gonna drive w/ half-a-jag on you better damn well mind the ps and qs and err on the side of caution. Juannie, don't stop where you THINK the ped line is, stop a foot and half before it.

My guess is that you didn't even know it was there until johnnie law told you....these guys are like hawks and you have to get up mighty early in the AM to get one past them.

I'm not a cop, not related to any just admire what they do. SinJin, I agree that you may be more skilled at driving drunk and able to do it safely, but they're aiming for the majority of people who suck at driving when impaired.

Good points. A solid post....very unusual for you.

[nutz4Neal]

I just heard on the news they think she will be going back to jail today. They said the police and the Judge will fight it out and in the end the Judge will win. He will order her back to jail. We'll see I guess.

I think I heard that the judge expressly wrote in the setence that house arrest was not an option -- she would serve her time. How does the sheriff have a right to override a judge's order? I think there's a good chance she'll be sent back and told to grow up and suck it up. (no pun intended)

...well, I just heard that the judge who ordered her back in court had a car pick her up, can you imagine that? Let's just hope it's a proper town car.

What else could be expected from the LA judicial system I guess, the 'stars' are their bread 'n butter.

[Red13JoePa]

I mean look at women, St John they can't drive when SOBER.

[Angiekay]

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Paris Hilton will have to appear in court after all.

The judge in her court hearing has ordered the L.A. Sheriff's Department to pick her up and bring her to the L.A. Superior Court this morning, CNN has learned.

Hilton, who is serving her jail sentence from her Hollywood Hills home, was headed for a courtroom showdown that could put her back behind bars, as prosecutors sought to hold sheriff's officials in contempt for releasing her early from jail.

Hilton was ordered to report to court at 9 a.m. The judge signed an order for deputies to bring her in a sheriff's vehicle from her Hollywood Hills home, said Superior Court spokesman Allan Parachini.

Friday morning, Parachini said Hilton would be allowed to take part in the hearing by telephone, but Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer stuck to his original order.

The frenzy over Hilton's jail status began early Thursday when sheriff's officials released Hilton because of an undisclosed medical condition and sent her home under house arrest. She had been in jail since late Sunday.

Hilton was fitted with an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet and was expected to finish her 45-day sentence for a reckless driving probation violation at her four-bedroom, three-bath home.

The decision by Sheriff Lee Baca to move Hilton chafed prosecutors and Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer, who spelled out during sentencing that Hilton was not allowed to serve house detention.

Late Thursday, Sauer issued the order for Hilton to return to court after the city attorney filed a petition demanding that Hilton be returned to jail and to show cause why Baca shouldn't be held in contempt of court.

Baca does not have to be in court, and it was unclear who would represent the Sheriff's Department.

The move also was met with outrage from the sheriff's deputies union, members of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, civil rights leaders, defense attorneys and others.

"What transpired here is outrageous," county Supervisor Don Knabe told The Associated Press, adding he received more than 400 angry e-mails and hundreds more phone calls from around the country.

Hilton's return home "gives the impression of ... celebrity justice being handed out," he said. (Watch Hilton enter jail )

Baca dismissed the criticism, saying the decision was made based on medical advice.

"It isn't wise to keep a person in jail with her problem over an extended period of time and let the problem get worse," Baca told the Los Angeles Times on Thursday.

"My message to those who don't like celebrities is that punishing celebrities more than the average American is not justice," Baca said.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown criticized the Sheriff's Department for letting Hilton out of jail, saying he believed she should serve out her sentence.

"It does hold up the system to ridicule when the powerful and the famous get special treatment," Brown told The Associated Press in an interview before testifying at a congressional hearing in Washington.

"I'm sure there's a lot of people who've seen their family members go to jail and have various ailments, physical and psychological, that didn't get them released," he said. "I'd say it's time for a course correction."

The Los Angeles County jail system is so overcrowded that attorneys and jail officials have said it is not unusual for nonviolent offenders like Hilton to be released after serving as little as 10 percent of their sentences.

In the hours after Hilton's release, it was a madcap scene outside her house in the hills above the Sunset Strip. As word spread that Hilton was back home, radio helicopter pilots who normally report on traffic conditions were dispatched to hover over her house and describe it to morning commuters. Paparazzi photographers on the ground quickly assembled outside its gates.

Shortly before noon, Hilton issued a statement through her attorney.

"I want to thank the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and staff of the Century Regional Detention Center for treating me fairly and professionally," she said. "I am going to serve the remaining 40 days of my sentence. I have learned a great deal from this ordeal and hope that others have learned from my mistakes."

Hilton's path to jail began September 7, when she failed a sobriety test after police saw her weaving down a street in her Mercedes-Benz on what she said was a late-night run to a hamburger stand.

She pleaded no contest to reckless driving and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

In the months that followed she was stopped twice by officers who discovered her driving on a suspended license. The second stop landed her in Sauer's courtroom, where he sentenced her to jail.

[CatEyes]

I just heard on the news they think she will be going back to jail today. They said the police and the Judge will fight it out and in the end the Judge will win. He will order her back to jail. We'll see I guess.

I think I heard that the judge expressly wrote in the setence that house arrest was not an option -- she would serve her time. How does the sheriff have a right to override a judge's order? I think there's a good chance she'll be sent back and told to grow up and suck it up. (no pun intended)

...well, I just heard that the judge who ordered her back in court had a car pick her up, can you imagine that? Let's just hope it's a proper town car.

What else could be expected from the LA judicial system I guess, the 'stars' are their bread 'n butter.

I don't think it will be a stretch.

The judge ordered a car to pick her up because she decided she would not appear in court and would only participate by telephone.

Suprise!!

[Saint John]

I've driven over the .08 limit literally hundreds of times. When I was just out of college I played softball 5 nights a week and went to the bar afterward. I usually had between 8-12 beers and drove about 15 miles home. Zero arrests, zero accidents and zero incidents. Unfortunately, I was nabbed October 18th 2006 by an overzealous prick cop who said I went "beyond the pedestrian white line" while waiting at a red light. This scumbag pulled me over because my car was 3 feet over the thick white line that precedes the pedestrian white lined walkway. I came to find out in court that between 11pm and 5am he literally pulls over EVERY vehicle on Vollmer Road in Flossmoor Illinois. Since 2000, he has given out over 900 DUI's. His ends justify his means even though he is illegally pulling over virtually everyone he nails. I wish that motherfucker nothing but the worst. For the record, I blew .189.

Hey SJ, just wondering, would you want me taking care of you in a hospital if my BAC were .08?? I highly doubt it. You would want me to be totally on top of things and not impaired at all right? Well the same holds true when you get behind the wheel of a potentially deadly weapon. I don't care if you think you can drive or not, see that's just the problem, when you are impaired, you don't think clearly. I just can't believe that you are blaming the cop for your DUI, who cares why he pulled you over? You were driving impaired, end of story. I also can't believe that you are essentially bragging about it.

My brother lived in Australia for two years and he told me (back me up on this 'Drew) that on holiday weekends they literally have posts set up and every car has to stop and every driver has to take a breathalyzer. I think that's a great idea!

1) I was NOT driving impaired. Impaired, as defined by Webster, means "functioning poorly or inadequately." I DIDN'T stop 3 feet past the white line. Like always, I stopped prior to it. It boils down to his word versus mine. I have no recourse....especially considering I WAS bombed. Normally, I drink half that much but without getting into a long story I won't say why I was driving. I'll just say I didn't plan on it. As far as you taking care of me with a BAC of .08, I swear on my mother that I wouldn't care. My point is this...this jagoff pulls everyone over during certain hours for NO good reason. If they're sober he checks their license and lets them go. If they're drunk, he gives them a DUI. It was proven in court that in most liklihood, he DOES pull over people for no reason because of the number of non-ticketed pullovers he has. They have to call dispatch as soon as they turn their lights on and his pull over to ticket ratio indicated that he breaks the law literally 10 times a day.

[NealIsGod]

I mean look at women, St John they can't drive when SOBER.

Ohhhh, Archie!

[StevePerryHair]

I've driven over the .08 limit literally hundreds of times. When I was just out of college I played softball 5 nights a week and went to the bar afterward. I usually had between 8-12 beers and drove about 15 miles home. Zero arrests, zero accidents and zero incidents. Unfortunately, I was nabbed October 18th 2006 by an overzealous prick cop who said I went "beyond the pedestrian white line" while waiting at a red light. This scumbag pulled me over because my car was 3 feet over the thick white line that precedes the pedestrian white lined walkway. I came to find out in court that between 11pm and 5am he literally pulls over EVERY vehicle on Vollmer Road in Flossmoor Illinois. Since 2000, he has given out over 900 DUI's. His ends justify his means even though he is illegally pulling over virtually everyone he nails. I wish that motherfucker nothing but the worst. For the record, I blew .189.

Hey SJ, just wondering, would you want me taking care of you in a hospital if my BAC were .08?? I highly doubt it. You would want me to be totally on top of things and not impaired at all right? Well the same holds true when you get behind the wheel of a potentially deadly weapon. I don't care if you think you can drive or not, see that's just the problem, when you are impaired, you don't think clearly. I just can't believe that you are blaming the cop for your DUI, who cares why he pulled you over? You were driving impaired, end of story. I also can't believe that you are essentially bragging about it.

My brother lived in Australia for two years and he told me (back me up on this 'Drew) that on holiday weekends they literally have posts set up and every car has to stop and every driver has to take a breathalyzer. I think that's a great idea!

1) I was NOT driving impaired. Impaired, as defined by Webster, means "functioning poorly or inadequately." I DIDN'T stop 3 feet past the white line. Like always, I stopped prior to it. It boils down to his word versus mine. I have no recourse....especially considering I WAS bombed. Normally, I drink half that much but without getting into a long story I won't say why I was driving. I'll just say I didn't plan on it. As far as you taking care of me with a BAC of .08, I swear on my mother that I wouldn't care. My point is this...this jagoff pulls everyone over during certain hours for NO good reason. If they're sober he checks their license and lets them go. If they're drunk, he gives them a DUI. It was proven in court that in most liklihood, he DOES pull over people for no reason because of the number of non-ticketed pullovers he has. They have to call dispatch as soon as they turn their lights on and his pull over to ticket ratio indicated that he breaks the law literally 10 times a day.

I know you think you're right, but your not. It's not against the law for police to fish for reasons to pull over a vehicle. Chances are he could have followed you and if you touch on the line on the edge of the road 2 or 3 times, not even cross it, that would be enough for a cop to pull you over. It's VERY EASY to find a violation for every driver on the road for something if you follow them for a little while. If cops think a car is supspicious, they will look for things to pull them over for. My husband does this regularly looking for drunk drivers or even suspended licenses or anything else he may find on them. They get many arrests this way. It is part of their job, all of them do it, and it is not ILLEGAL. Defense lawyers may try to use info like his ticket ratio to get you off in court, and some jury's or judges may buy it, but that does not make it illegal. It's what cops do.

And for the 3rd time YOU WERE IMPAIRED!!!!!!! You just didn't think you were. You do not have to be drunk, stumbling, slurring, or show any signs of outward drunkeness to be IMPAIRED behind a wheel. Impairment, when defined for drunk driving, means that alcohol slows you down and slows down your reflexes so you may not react quickly enough in a situation on the road. That CAN happen with a .08. And there is never a reason good enough for doing it. That's why you need to plan your plans before you drink.

[Red13JoePa]

It's VERY EASY to find a violation for every driver on the road for something if you follow them for a little while. If cops think a car is supspicious, they will look for things to pull them over for. My husband does this regularly looking for drunk drivers or even suspended licenses or anything else he may find on them.

You better BELIEVE it. Those guys are uber-trained for that sort of thing, it's like shooting fish in a barrel if they get behind a car and NEED to find a reason to get that car pulled over.

I think 9.8 drivers out of 10 will unknowingly break an obscure driving law in that spot and another .01 of people will become unnerved because there's a cop behind them and do something dodgy like a couple nervous swerves or try to turn off to a right side street hoping the cop goes straight and not signal for turn. Hell, you can be driving too SLOW and get pulled over.

And for the final .01 of people who would drive flawlessly within the law, the cop could always throw the lights on say you crossed the double line and it's their word against the driver's.

[Rockindeano]

Lynn is absolutely correct.

Impaired can be defined by whomever and say whatever, but when applied to a driver on a public roadway, impaired means NOT 100% sober.

Look, I love drinking. No really, I do. I drive with a few in me, but not wasted. Is it wrong? Yes. Absolutely.

I would love to see ZERO tolerance regarding drunk driving. 0.00 BAC. It's so misleading. If you get pulled over after drinking 4 pitchers, and tell the cop you want to go to the hospital for a blood test, that in itself will buy you enough time for the BAC to decrease, and possibly a driver will be below the limit when the actual test is done.

Please don't think I have lost my balls SJ. This isn't a drinking game nor a macho deal...People being killed daily by some slobbering drunk is not cool.

[Angiekay]

I was NOT driving impaired.

I WAS bombed.

You find a distinction and say that with a straight face!? Good God, remind me not to drive when you're on the road!

[Natalie]

[1) I was NOT driving impaired. Impaired, as defined by Webster, means "functioning poorly or inadequately." I DIDN'T stop 3 feet past the white line. Like always, I stopped prior to it. It boils down to his word versus mine. I have no recourse....especially considering I WAS bombed. Normally, I drink half that much but without getting into a long story I won't say why I was driving. I'll just say I didn't plan on it. As far as you taking care of me with a BAC of .08, I swear on my mother that I wouldn't care. My point is this...this jagoff pulls everyone over during certain hours for NO good reason. If they're sober he checks their license and lets them go. If they're drunk, he gives them a DUI. It was proven in court that in most liklihood, he DOES pull over people for no reason because of the number of non-ticketed pullovers he has. They have to call dispatch as soon as they turn their lights on and his pull over to ticket ratio indicated that he breaks the law literally 10 times a day.

UM, OK??????????

So you are saying that it was more illegal for him to pull you over for "no good reason" than it was for you to be driving under the influence of alcohol???

[Saint John]

Lynn is absolutely correct.

Impaired can be defined by whomever and say whatever, but when applied to a driver on a public roadway, impaired means NOT 100% sober.

Look, I love drinking. No really, I do. I drive with a few in me, but not wasted. Is it wrong? Yes. Absolutely.

I would love to see ZERO tolerance regarding drunk driving. 0.00 BAC. It's so misleading. If you get pulled over after drinking 4 pitchers, and tell the cop you want to go to the hospital for a blood test, that in itself will buy you enough time for the BAC to decrease, and possibly a driver will be below the limit when the actual test is done.

Please don't think I have lost my balls SJ. This isn't a drinking game nor a macho deal...People being killed daily by some slobbering drunk is not cool.

"Not 100% sober" has NO clear definition and is ambiguous. Say I'm driving under a .08 and Granny Granola is driving "100% sober." If my reaction time is still clearly better than hers, which I'd bet my left arm it's better than 90 % of ALL sober people, should she be arrested for DUI? Of course not. And neither should I. You know what....I can't go out of my body and see how OTHER people operate a vehicle with a BAC of .08, but the couple hundred times I've done it is MORE than proof that it's not a problem. Why do sober drivers that kill people seemingly get a free pass? Seems to me that they have LESS of an excuse and should probably receive a more severe punishment than a drunk driver. Shit, you're sober...what's your excuse? I'm not condoning it, rather illustrating that the penalty should be the SAME.

[Saint John]

[1) I was NOT driving impaired. Impaired, as defined by Webster, means "functioning poorly or inadequately." I DIDN'T stop 3 feet past the white line. Like always, I stopped prior to it. It boils down to his word versus mine. I have no recourse....especially considering I WAS bombed. Normally, I drink half that much but without getting into a long story I won't say why I was driving. I'll just say I didn't plan on it. As far as you taking care of me with a BAC of .08, I swear on my mother that I wouldn't care. My point is this...this jagoff pulls everyone over during certain hours for NO good reason. If they're sober he checks their license and lets them go. If they're drunk, he gives them a DUI. It was proven in court that in most liklihood, he DOES pull over people for no reason because of the number of non-ticketed pullovers he has. They have to call dispatch as soon as they turn their lights on and his pull over to ticket ratio indicated that he breaks the law literally 10 times a day.

UM, OK??????????

So you are saying that it was more illegal for him to pull you over for "no good reason" than it was for you to be driving under the influence of alcohol???

Absolutely. This isn't Russia. He needs a legal reason to pull me over. He didn't have one. He was just lucky enough that I WAS drunk. Had I not been, like so many others he HAD to let go, I would have been released. He broke the law before he knew I did. Fuck him.

[Angiekay]

but the couple hundred times I've done it is MORE than proof that it's not a problem.

LMAO...you must be so proud!

[Rockindeano]

"Not 100% sober" has NO clear definition and is ambiguous. Say I'm driving under a .08 and Granny Granola is driving "100% sober." If my reaction time is still clearly better than hers, which I'd bet my left arm it's better than 90 % of ALL sober people, should she be arrested for DUI? Of course not. And neither should I. You know what....I can't go out of my body and see how OTHER people operate a vehicle with a BAC of .08, but the couple hundred times I've done it is MORE than proof that it's not a problem. Why do sober drivers that kill people seemingly get a free pass? Seems to me that they have LESS of an excuse and should probably receive a more severe punishment than a drunk driver. Shit, you're sober...what's your excuse? I'm not condoning it, rather illustrating that the penalty should be the SAME.

In October, we will be plowed, but most likely walking right SJ?

[Rick]

Lynn is absolutely correct.

Impaired can be defined by whomever and say whatever, but when applied to a driver on a public roadway, impaired means NOT 100% sober.

Look, I love drinking. No really, I do. I drive with a few in me, but not wasted. Is it wrong? Yes. Absolutely.

I would love to see ZERO tolerance regarding drunk driving. 0.00 BAC. It's so misleading. If you get pulled over after drinking 4 pitchers, and tell the cop you want to go to the hospital for a blood test, that in itself will buy you enough time for the BAC to decrease, and possibly a driver will be below the limit when the actual test is done.

Please don't think I have lost my balls SJ. This isn't a drinking game nor a macho deal...People being killed daily by some slobbering drunk is not cool.

"Not 100% sober" has NO clear definition and is ambiguous. Say I'm driving under a .08 and Granny Granola is driving "100% sober." If my reaction time is still clearly better than hers, which I'd bet my left arm it's better than 90 % of ALL sober people, should she be arrested for DUI? Of course not. And neither should I. You know what....I can't go out of my body and see how OTHER people operate a vehicle with a BAC of .08, but the couple hundred times I've done it is MORE than proof that it's not a problem. Why do sober drivers that kill people seemingly get a free pass? Seems to me that they have LESS of an excuse and should probably receive a more severe punishment than a drunk driver. Shit, you're sober...what's your excuse? I'm not condoning it, rather illustrating that the penalty should be the SAME.

There two separate problems with drunk drivers that screw it up for everyone.

1. There's the young drunk that's at .10, feeling good and uninhibited and thinks it would be cool to see just how fast his car will go.

2. There's the drunk that is so drunk they lose consciousness at the wheel.

I've driven over the legal limit but never do I exceed the speed limit, and the times that I have thought that I was past a reasonable level, I've called for a ride.

[chf34jmac]

As the son of a retired cop (40 years for my dad). I can tell you without hesitation, they DO NOT need a clearly defined reason to pull you over. When the cops are bored, late at night they will get get behind a random vehicle and just for shits and giggles run the tag to see if it's clean. One outstanding ticket and bingo your now stopped. If your liquored up when he/she does this then big time bonus for the cop, and major fuck stick for you.

[StevePerryHair]

"Not 100% sober" has NO clear definition and is ambiguous. Say I'm driving under a .08 and Granny Granola is driving "100% sober." If my reaction time is still clearly better than hers, which I'd bet my left arm it's better than 90 % of ALL sober people, should she be arrested for DUI? Of course not. And neither should I. You know what....I can't go out of my body and see how OTHER people operate a vehicle with a BAC of .08, but the couple hundred times I've done it is MORE than proof that it's not a problem. Why do sober drivers that kill people seemingly get a free pass? Seems to me that they have LESS of an excuse and should probably receive a more severe punishment than a drunk driver. Shit, you're sober...what's your excuse? I'm not condoning it, rather illustrating that the penalty should be the SAME.

Well, I would also be a supporter of driving tests for the elderly. I think it's wrong that we aren't checking them to see if their reflexes are up to par. But, you say drivers who kill people, not drunk do not get in trouble, and I'd have to say you're wrong there too. If they are violating a law when hitting and killing someone, they very well can be charged and go to jail. I've seen it happen here in Florida. And it always make me think about how I am driving when I am driving. Wreckless driving is as much a problem in this country as drunk driving and killing someone that way will land you in jail.

What it boils down to, you break the law, drunk or sober on the road, you will go to jail, no free pass. If you kill someone on the road following all the traffic laws, you will not be punished. As it should be. To me it's just stubborness for you. You don't agree with the law, so screw it. Well, with that attitude, you will have another DUI arrest someday, count on it.

[Red13JoePa]

As the son of a retired cop (40 years for my dad). I can tell you without hesitation, they DO NOT need a clearly defined reason to pull you over. When the cops are bored, late at night they will get get behind a random vehicle and just for shits and giggles run the tag to see if it's clean. One outstanding ticket and bingo your now stopped. If your liquored up when he/she does this then big time bonus for the cop, and major fuck stick for you.

Yep, and you know what? I STILL don't have a problem with that....either don't drive drunk or straighten out that stray ticket beforehand one or the other. Perfectly legitimate to run a license plate though.

[StevePerryHair]

As the son of a retired cop (40 years for my dad). I can tell you without hesitation, they DO NOT need a clearly defined reason to pull you over. When the cops are bored, late at night they will get get behind a random vehicle and just for shits and giggles run the tag to see if it's clean. One outstanding ticket and bingo your now stopped. If your liquored up when he/she does this then big time bonus for the cop, and major fuck stick for you.

THANK YOU!!!! Well said! AND IT'S NOT ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

And SJ, Defense lawyers will feed you all kind of bullshit because they want your money. They use smoke and mirrors to make it look good for you because THAT'S THEIR JOB. It doesn't make everything they tell you gold.

[chf34jmac]

As my dad would put it when someone would bitch about being pulled over. Them saying "what about everybody else who's speeding?" My dad would answer like this, "Do you ever go fishing? When you cast out your line, you don't catch all of the fish in the ocean at one time do you?" So SJ there are really kind of limited choices for you bro. 1.Don't drink and drive. 2.Keep doing it and hope you don't get snagged again. or 3. Find an alternate form of transportation when you get bombed.

[chf34jmac]

Back to Paris. I just heard that the medical condition was some strange mushroom shaped bruises all over her forehead.

[Playitloudforme]

Back to Paris. I just heard that the medical condition was some strange mushroom shaped bruises all over her forehead.

So... Baca was giving her forehead hickeys through the bars? WTF? lol

[Red13JoePa]

As my dad would put it when someone would bitch about being pulled over. Them saying "what about everybody else who's speeding?" My dad would answer like this, "Do you ever go fishing? When you cast out your line, you don't catch all of the fish in the ocean at one time do you?" So SJ there are really kind of limited choices for you bro. 1.Don't drink and drive. 2.Keep doing it and hope you don't get snagged again. or 3. Find an alternate form of transportation when you get bombed.

Hm.

well said, chief.

I'm guessing our beloved Dano (who's miraculously gone from law and order conservative to bleedin heart bill of rights quoting liberal before our eyes on this matter ) is gonna roll w/ option #2.