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Postby Serendipity » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:03 pm

Jonny B wrote:What does Kamelot sound like nowadays? The only album I've heard was their debut "Eternity," which my bro calls 'The Crimson Glory Impersonation Album.' I always figured they're more Power Metal, but now that I hear the word 'gothic,' it's starting to catch my interest in buying one of their recents.


I would describe their music as a mix between power metal and progressive metal. Think Queensryche with neo-classical influences, because Khan sounds reminiscent of Geoff Tate at times. I haven't heard Eternity, but between Dominion and everything that followed is a world's difference. They grew more subtle and catchy.

My favourites are Karma and Epica but you may like The Black Halo better, because of the duet and the more prominent symphonic arrangements, hence the gothic I heard in it.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:41 pm

I wouldn't say they were particularly progressive at all S-Dip. To these ears they are power/goth.

What do I call prog? Numerous and often ridiculously complex time changes, 10-15 minute epics, solos outta the wazoo on all instruments and so on. I don't think Kamelot fill the bill in those areas.
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Postby Serendipity » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:13 am

Kenny wrote:I wouldn't say they were particularly progressive at all S-Dip. To these ears they are power/goth.

What do I call prog? Numerous and often ridiculously complex time changes, 10-15 minute epics, solos outta the wazoo on all instruments and so on. I don't think Kamelot fill the bill in those areas.

Hmmm, where's the progressive in Kamelot... they don't do the complex time changes (at least not that I am able to notice) but I think for a power metal band they write original, less straightforward melodies and songs, and their concept albums could be regarded as a very long epic, with the interludes and all. In all they aren't afraid to experiment, which to me makes them progressive, though not exactly Dream Theater material. I guess my definition won't fit everyone... it's just the way I feel when I listen to them... as a power/progressive metal band. I never before tried to put into words why it made me feel that way...
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Postby Penny » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:07 am

They definitely have progressive elements and fit quite nicely into the prog/power genre. I don't hear much goth in there at all. Jonny, they had a different singer when they released Eternity and Casey Grillo wasn't the drummer then either. They have a totally different sound with the changed band members. They are an awesome band and definitely worth listening too.
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Postby Kenny » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:34 pm

Yeah they are definitely worth checking out - no doubt.

Prog? Well one couldn't compare them with Dream Theater at all, and I guess DT are what most people would see as the prototype prog band - on the other hand, they are similar in some ways to Masterplan, which are a band that most people would say are archetypical power metal.

However, in theme, look and subject matter they are somewhat 'darker' than a band like Masterplan.

In a simplistic sense, this is the crux of why I call them 'Power/Goth'.
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Postby Penny » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:44 am

The female vocalists they use give them a goth feel too, so maybe they're power/prog/goth? Dunno, but they're good.
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:49 pm

They are! I really like 'Karma' - didn't like 'Black Halo' so much but I'm prepared to gove 'Ghost Opera' a go.....


My (late) AOTW by the way, is Marillion - 'Afraid of Sunlight'.
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Postby Soloud » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:13 pm

AOTW: Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

Not the DT that blew me away back in the early 90s but still good stuff. I don't care as much for the keyboard sound they have going; but Petrucci just seems to get better as a guitar player and Labrie sings well so they make up for it. I think one of my favorite songs is the fairly mainstream sounding 'Forsaken'
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Postby Taliwakker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:52 pm

What do I call prog? Numerous and often ridiculously complex time changes, 10-15 minute epics, solos outta the wazoo on all instruments and so on. I don't think Kamelot fill the bill in those areas


yeah thats kind of the way i see prog too.....and no Kamelot aren't prog. Their live dvd is fucking awesome.
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Postby doggy » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:42 am

"The Gathering" by Jorn is my ATOW.
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Postby Taliwakker » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:30 am

Sun Caged-s/t...hadn't dusted this off in a while.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:24 pm

My AOTW - 'Images of Dutch girls in G-strings' ......NO!!!! Not really!!!!

No, its actually James LaBrie - 'Elements of persuasion'
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Postby Serendipity » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:59 am

Kenny wrote:My AOTW - 'Images of Dutch girls in G-strings' ......NO!!!! Not really!!!!

:lol: Oh well, it almost sounds as a classical work, with the strings set in G... :lol:

Mine is Scorpions - Humanity Hour I. I've heard it only twice so far, and still don't like the opening track, but after that it's very okay. Heard some beautiful warm and full sounding undistorted guitars on a couple of songs.
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Postby SnakeLady » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:19 am

:lol: It´s friday .....today at work the boys were discussing fronts or backs!

My album of the week would be ............what I listen in the car `Red Hot Chili Pepers - Stadium Arcadium
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Postby Soloud » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:30 am

Taliwakker wrote:Sun Caged-s/t...hadn't dusted this off in a while.


Good cd! I heard the sound samples from the second one and blah
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Postby Kenny » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:11 am

SnakeLady wrote:My album of the week would be ............what I listen in the car `Red Hot Chili Pepers - Stadium Arcadium
Oh pull-eeeze! Surely you are in jest mode??
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Postby SnakeLady » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:53 pm

Kenny wrote: Oh pull-eeeze! Surely you are in jest mode??


:lol: a bit!

They have something funny ....... :wink:
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Postby Taliwakker » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Soloud wrote
Good cd! I heard the sound samples from the second one and blah


Yeah...not a big fan of cd no.2 so far.....the Sphere of Souls cd is great though (features the original SunCaged singer and keyboardist).
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:19 pm

SnakeLady wrote:
Kenny wrote: Oh pull-eeeze! Surely you are in jest mode??


:lol: a bit!

They have something funny ....... :wink:
They do....their image and their music. :lol:
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Postby Penny » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:10 am

Their video clip of Dani California is brilliant.
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Postby Taliwakker » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:08 pm

Bungle doing RHCP...pretty funny

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Postby Pelata » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:39 am

My AOTW is:

DEF LEPPARD - Yeah!

It's the one I've spun the most this week...
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Postby Jonny B » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:00 am

I forgot to post an AOTW last week. But for two weeks, I've been listening to a Nightwish compilation that I created. It's a modification of 'Highest Hopes' which I call 'Shattered Hopes.' It's actually a slight change from the one I posted in the compilations thread.

I've been using it as a deterrent force for anyone who's looking at the apartments next door. Wanna be my neighbor? Better like metal, or you're gonna be miserable. :P
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Postby doggy » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:52 am

"Rising" by Rainbow is my ATOW.
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Postby Penny » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:58 pm

I've been listening to Poison in the car......

but my AOTW is the new Sonata Arctica. Unia. Love it.
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Postby Soloud » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:42 am

Penny wrote:but my AOTW is the new Sonata Arctica. Unia. Love it.


I want to like this band but just can't seem to remain interested. Is this new one much different than anything they have done previously?

AOTW: Anathema 4
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Postby doggy » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:58 am

"Tomorrowland" by Black Majesty is my ATOW.
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Postby Soloud » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:33 am

doggy wrote:"Tomorrowland" by Black Majesty is my ATOW.


I love that cover of Soldier of Fortune they have on that cd
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Postby Penny » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:47 am

doggy wrote

"Tomorrowland" by Black Majesty is my ATOW.


Haven't heard this yet. Is it good?


Soloud wrote

I want to like this band but just can't seem to remain interested. Is this new one much different than anything they have done previously?


Hmm, yes, it is different. It's still Sonata Arctica, but it seems to be a little darker than their previous stuff and not as cheesy perhaps? Has a lot of keyboards. It's not their best album, but it's very good.
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Postby Soloud » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:00 am

Got the new Symphony X cd today so my AOTW is Paradise Lost. These guys have outdone themselves and I will offer up my review in two words.

Holy Shit!
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