Jonathan Cain Needs To Get a Freakin' Clue!!!!!

[Enigma869]

get off this thinly disguised "Bring back Perry" shit!! isnt that another thread elsewhere ... Jeremey is the nearest you are ever gonna get to it..so celebrate it!! be happy for the guy, without any caveats like.... "hes a great guy and is a brill singer, but! ...but fucking what??

what else is there to know?? ..great guy...great singer...one of you fucking own..... right from MR.... you are a mean spirited fucker.... for sure!

I hope Jeremey is takin notes here.... coz I sure as hell would be!

One things for sure... backstage passes are gonna be in short supply from J to his "buddies" here!

Face it,,, Cain and mop ead got it wrong.... some of us knew it... but we ..knuckled down to it..and JSS did a sterling job...but it was never Journey! .... youm either want Journey, and their "sound" or you should be on another forum, championing a different act.... whats it to be??

I want Journey, with the Perry voice...if it has to be Jeremeys Perry voice..then whats the frikkin prob with that?? cant you just imagine its Perry? is that so hard?

Grow up...stop masturbating to pics of Perry....

Listen fuckhead...

Get your facts straight. I am not championing the cause to bring Perry back to Journey! As I already stated...That ship has sailed! Steve Perry has ZERO desire to be part of this or any other band, and I for one, wouldn't even want to see him with these guys. The reality is that Perry of 2007 couldn't stack up to the Perry of 1983, vocally! Perry's record speaks for itself, and it would NEVER make any sense for him to come back and embarrass himself! There is never any point to tainting one's legend!

As for the whole Jeremey taking notes BS...what the hell are you smoking, McNutbag???? As I said, this thread isn't about Jeremey! It's about the moronic statements that Cain made. Furthermore, I didn't say a single disparaging word about Jeremey, here or anywhere else! I happen to like the guy, but that isn't the point of this thread! Perhaps you should read the title of the thread to remind yourself of why the thread was started. As for me being a "mean-spirited fucker"....I challenge you to find one single word I have ever typed here or anywhere else that could be interpreted as "mean", that wasn't directed at the now deceased Jackass Talk! You'll be looking for a long time, moron!


John from Boston

[Cheri]

Cool you're on board. As the truth begins to really surface and we find out who the real villians have been for the better part of 11 years (I can see why Perry bailed on these Judas's) one thing has become very clear to me. Schon is a man stuck with a 16 year old boy's mentality. The guy really never went to school. He never had neighborhood friends. The type of guys you sat with in your teenage years and drank beer with. The guys that had your back in a fight. The guys that you now meet up with a couple times a year and reminisce with. Rather, he grew up on the road, more specifically in and out of motels. He was exposed to a cut throat business. It's all he knows. His life has been comprised of "the next gig" artificial friends, shallow relationships, "hot chicks" at bars, and back to "the next gig." He's missing something. He doesn't know what being a friend means. I'm not real sure he's ever had one.

Enter Friga...the smart one. He realizes this. He sees right through Schon. He sees that he's weak (and pretty much stupid). Perry exits. Friga pounces. He talks Neal into letting him "have the keys to the car." Friga and Schon set off together. One's a dumbass still seeking out those "hot chicks" and the other one just cares about $$$$. And as long as there's enough $$$ and "the next gig" Neal has no problem letting Friga "drive the car." Enter Jeff. Mentally and physically young. Enthusiastic, artistic and motivated. Emotionally sound, secure and loyal. Passionate. Red Flags everywhere for Friga. Especially considering Neal digs this guy. Neal feels 16 again, which is now in tandem with the way he acts. Friga lures Jeff in. He PRETENDS to be warming up to him. What's the old saying: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." He works Neal. He convinces Fro that Jeff doesn't belong. That with him, there might not be "the next gig." Fro, who has no sense of allegiance, of loyalty or decency bites. They whack Jeff. The act is SO cowardly that neither have the decency to face him. They sever all ties and plot "the next gig." Scumbags.

I believe this hit the nail on the head 100%. Neal isn't the brain child behind it all; Jon is.

[piecesofeight]

No, I was 100% wrong. I slayed Augeri and now I must face the truth. Steve could've walked off I suppose, but there's more to it than that. What the entire organization did was despicable.

Boy could I write a book about this......but would be sued faster than Richard Simmons sucking off Manarocks.

What pisses me off is that you, TNC, and so many others gave SA absolutely ZERO consideration that Tapegate was more than him.

I argued up and down that for as much as we knew and/or THOUGHT we knew there's NO WAY we knew ALL of the circumstances as to WHY SA hid behind the tapes. It was just, "There's NO justifiable reason." That was nothing more than a Neanderthal, gut level, reaction void of any logic or reasoning.

I don't think SA could've walked off even if he wanted to OR more importantly without some kind of devastating legal action.

This has always been a tough one. On one hand, you could say he could have just walked, then you think about contracts/legal crap. Yet again, he may have had ground for leaving since they wanted him to lip and that's not what his job was. SA is a grown up man, and I think he could have done something.
I used to be surprised that so many supported Journey after this, but I think it was because of Jeff, and think people will again because of Jeremy.
The fact is though that SA still did it.
I think a lot of people who say they won't support Journey, will go to at least one show just to see.
Yes, it is a bit shocking to see Deano saying sorry to SA.

[wildone]

Fuck it there just another tribute band!!

[whocares]

I agree that the boys fucked up big time, but I draw the line at any appology to Augeri. Maybe they said do it or else, but in the end, he didn't ahve the balls to just walk away. No apology, based on that alone. He still went out night after night and took in some good bank, all the while being two faced to the fans that actually adored him (not me), and accepted words such as "You sounded good tonight...", when he knew it was not live that night, all the way through.

[Crazie Scarab]

I think a lot of people who say they won't support Journey, will go to at least one show just to see.

Not me. Unless perhaps they can move on past the dirty dozen at EVERY FREAKING SHOW! Then, I might look into buying a ticket to a Journey concert again. I cannot tell you how bored I am PAYING so much money only to see Journey perform the same songs over and over and over and over again. That was what Jeff was supposed to be about. I was feeling change happening for the better, for the band.. The other day, all my hopes for Journey were flushed down the toilet.

Not so long ago, I was so thankful that Journey "finally" figured it out! It's all gone now. For what?

Neal, Jon.. I'm sorry to report you've lost your way.

[JrnyScarab]

I think a lot of people who say they won't support Journey, will go to at least one show just to see.

Not me. Unless perhaps they can move on past the dirty dozen at EVERY FREAKING SHOW! Then, I might look into buying a ticket to a Journey concert again. I cannot tell you how bored I am PAYING so much money only to see Journey perform the same songs over and over and over and over again. That was what Jeff was supposed to be about. I was feeling change happening for the better, for the band.. The other day, all my hopes for Journey were flushed down the toilet.

Not so long ago, I was so thankful that Journey "finally" figured it out! It's all gone now. For what?

Neal, Jon.. I'm sorry to report you've lost your way.

I totally agree. That's what I said in another post. It was great hearing some of the deeper catalog stuff instead of just the dirty dozen. I felt they were reborn when I saw them. The energy and fun they were having was obvious. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark. God, I can't wait for the day someone can write a biography of the band and spill the dirt. Might be as good or better than the Motley Crue book!

Ed

[sindee67]

I just read the story and quotes from Jonathan Cain being interested in Journey's "legacy". Is this guy fucking serious???? Listen...If you want to say Soto didn't sound anything like Perry, I agree 100%, but these are the guys who hired Jeff, even knowing he sounded nothing like Perry! This shit about "we want to sound like we sounded on our albums" is fucking hilarious to me! Someone should probably break the news to Cain...that ship has sailed! Perry isn't walking through that door, Cain!

Listen up Cain and Schon...You're not going to find anyone out there who sounds like Perry! The guy is a fucking legend for a reason! He was and is one of a kind who you've been trying to replicate through 10 years and two singers. It isn't happening! As Brian May so aptly put it....Perry's voice was one in a million, and this coming from a guy who played with the great Freddie Mercury! At this point, all you're doing is alienating the most loyal fan base on the planet!

Schon and Cain are really starting to look like a couple of clowns. It's like the blind leading the blind! My issue with these guys isn't even that they fired Jeff...It's that they hired the guy in the first place. Jeff is who he is, and these guys have been in the music business long enough to know what they were getting, and that they weren't getting Steve Perry!

I think if Schon and Cain are genuinely concerned about the legacy of the name Journey and what it means to so many people, they probably should have thought about that ten years ago when they decided to move on without Perry! The more I recall the VH1 BTM, the more Perry sounds like a genius to me! These guys just don't get it! They should probably check their music almanacs to figure out the last band that had 4 lead singers in their history, let alone in 10 years!

As I've said 1000 times and will repeat again...Journey will NEVER, EVER, EVER be musically relevant again, in this lifetime! They had their moment in the spotlight, but that light has long since burnt out! It's really time for these guys to move on with their lives, and stop rolling out the "flavor of the month" for their loyal fans to ingest! Perhaps the one silver lining of all of this is that Schon may come to the conclusion of just how remarkable what Perry did was! I think Schon has been looking for a Perry replacement since Perry moved on, and he's apparently not going to stop until science figures out how to clone the 1983 Steve Perry! Good luck with that, Neal!


John from Boston

AMEN!!!!

[ironmountain]

I met Steve Augeri just prior to the Arrival tour in Las Vegas (Mandalay Bay), he was a very humble and pleasant fellow. In watching this Jourey saga unfold, I'd say he got screwed over. Jeff, a terrific singer, like Augeri, has gotten the shaft at the hands of Schon and Cain. I admire these guys for their success, but detest them for the way they treat people.

Unfortunately for their egos, Steve Perry is synonymous with Journey and that's a legacy they cannot match.

[belar]

I wonder if SA really has healed since last summer? How about a "Sans Journey" tour with JSS and SA a la the "Sans Halen" production a few years ago with DLR and Sammy. I'd go.

[Salmacis99]

No, I was 100% wrong. I slayed Augeri and now I must face the truth. Steve could've walked off I suppose, but there's more to it than that. What the entire organization did was despicable.

Boy could I write a book about this......but would be sued faster than Richard Simmons sucking off Manarocks.

Deano, you're by no means the only one who was wrong- we were all wrong...or should I say grossly mislead- about a lot of things. Journey have thrown everyone- including the fans- under the bus. You're wearing the same tire tracks as the rest of us

[Enigma869]

I wonder if SA really has healed since last summer? How about a "Sans Journey" tour with JSS and SA a la the "Sans Halen" production a few years ago with DLR and Sammy. I'd go.

The only problem with that tour is neither guy had any hand in any success that is attributable to Journey! Both Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth were VERY influential in ALL the success of Van Halen. Not to mention, Soto and Augeri are completely anonymous in the world of music, outside of Journey circles. Hagar and Roth were just a bit more prominent, with both having some success of their own away from Van Halen.


John from Boston

[Waysted]

Respectfully, we can agree to disagree. Again, I just don't think these two situations really have anything to do with each other. I'm not going to get too caught up in the semantics of who was using whom, as in the music business, everyone is ultimately using someone else's talent to accomplish their own gig and pay their own bills!

Steve Augeri was a member of Journey for 9 long years. Jeff didn't even make it a year. Augeri, by all accounts, was having some MAJOR vocal issues and simply wasn't physically capable of singing any longer. To my knowledge, there have been no claims that Jeff has lost his ability to sing! The only two things that these guys had in common was the fact that they are both now a part of Journey's permanent history, and both will be nothing more than a footnote in that history!

The one thing I will say is that I don't think what has occurred with Jeff somehow lets Augeri, Cain, Schon, Valory, and Castronovo off the hook for the entire tapegate debacle. I had a feeling that it probably wouldn't be long after this news had broken before someone tried to cannonize Augeri. Again, one has ZERO to do with the other! I know that for me personally, I will NEVER excuse the fraud that all 5 of those guys perpetrated on their paying fans! I continue to listen to the music because of my connection to the music, but, I would not pay a nickel to go see these guys in concert! Neal can pay his light bill without any help from my wallet!


John from Boston

Yep, we can be respectful. I can see your point. For me, I was a casual fan of Journey, but a serious fan of both Steve A and JSS, so I am probably looking at the situation in a different light. You are right, in the music business, everyone needs to have (use) someone. My point is in how they were cast aside, their situations while in the band (beyond being the lead singer) and the reasons behind their departures are not connected.

I don't see this situation as de-villianizing the band for the Tapegate situation either. It does, however (again, in my opinion) soften the effect on (but certainy not exhonerate) the one who fell on the proverbial sword, while casting more doubt on the "innocent" bandmates. Yes, Steve Augeri had a condition that no longer allowed him to do the job. No, I have heard no claims that JSS could not carry his end. Hell, he carried the band.

It is a situation of comapring apples to oranges. They certainly aren't the same, but they are in the same food group.

Where we can agree without any hesitation is that the band will have to go forward without our support.

Thanks again for a well thought series of posts. Been a pleasure to read, and they got people thinking a bit.

[Shadowsong]

And when the dust settles a LOT of people are going to owe Mr. Augeri an apology. He was forced to walk the plank. I'll go first. Mr. Augeri, I apologize.

I'll go second.

I apologize to Steve Augeri. Dude, I really am sorry. I was wrong. Call me, we'll throw beers in South Bend.

Now I know this is all just a bad dream...

[FormerJrnyFan]

Never warmed up to the 'Frig... never could...

[The_Noble_Cause]

What pisses me off is that you, TNC, and so many others gave SA absolutely ZERO consideration that Tapegate was more than him.

That's pattently false - and I will laboriously dig up quotes if forced to.
Time and time again, it was mentioned that EVERYONE was culpable.
However, where does the buck ultimately stop?
JSS has said that he would never resort to lipping. NEVER.
A similar comment has been made by Deen Castronovo.
Amazing that all these Journey singers are imbued with free will, save for Steve Augeri that is.

I argued up and down that for as much as we knew and/or THOUGHT we knew there's NO WAY we knew ALL of the circumstances as to WHY SA hid behind the tapes. It was just, "There's NO justifiable reason." That was nothing more than a Neanderthal, gut level, reaction void of any logic or reasoning.

Fifth time I'm asking you this question.
Name one possible scenario where defrauding your fans is acceptable.
I don't even care if one of the band member's family members had taken ill and needed expensive treatment.

I don't think SA could've walked off even if he wanted to OR more importantly without some kind of devastating legal action.

Considering that the band had to resort to barring tapes and embarassing themselves on the Def tour in order to get Augeri to exit, that wouldn't seem likely.
In fact, according to one band member, they wanted him gone, but "no one had the heart to do it".

[stevew2]

And when the dust settles a LOT of people are going to owe Mr. Augeri an apology. He was forced to walk the plank. I'll go first. Mr. Augeri, I apologize.

I'll go second.

I apologize to Steve Augeri. Dude, I really am sorry. I was wrong. Call me, we'll throw beers in South Bend.

I am so proud of you Deano,I thought this day would never come.I ll give you a famous Steve A ,or even better a Neil S. reach around with a Friga finish.

[Matthew]

And when the dust settles a LOT of people are going to owe Mr. Augeri an apology. He was forced to walk the plank. I'll go first. Mr. Augeri, I apologize.

I'll go second.

I apologize to Steve Augeri. Dude, I really am sorry. I was wrong. Call me, we'll throw beers in South Bend.

Cool you're on board. As the truth begins to really surface and we find out who the real villians have been for the better part of 11 years (I can see why Perry bailed on these Judas's) one thing has become very clear to me. Schon is a man stuck with a 16 year old boy's mentality. The guy really never went to school. He never had neighborhood friends. The type of guys you sat with in your teenage years and drank beer with. The guys that had your back in a fight. The guys that you now meet up with a couple times a year and reminisce with. Rather, he grew up on the road, more specifically in and out of motels. He was exposed to a cut throat business. It's all he knows. His life has been comprised of "the next gig" artificial friends, shallow relationships, "hot chicks" at bars, and back to "the next gig." He's missing something. He doesn't know what being a friend means. I'm not real sure he's ever had one.

Enter Friga...the smart one. He realizes this. He sees right through Schon. He sees that he's weak (and pretty much stupid). Perry exits. Friga pounces. He talks Neal into letting him "have the keys to the car." Friga and Schon set off together. One's a dumbass still seeking out those "hot chicks" and the other one just cares about $$$$. And as long as there's enough $$$ and "the next gig" Neal has no problem letting Friga "drive the car." Enter Jeff. Mentally and physically young. Enthusiastic, artistic and motivated. Emotionally sound, secure and loyal. Passionate. Red Flags everywhere for Friga. Especially considering Neal digs this guy. Neal feels 16 again, which is now in tandem with the way he acts. Friga lures Jeff in. He PRETENDS to be warming up to him. What's the old saying: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." He works Neal. He convinces Fro that Jeff doesn't belong. That with him, there might not be "the next gig." Fro, who has no sense of allegiance, of loyalty or decency bites. They whack Jeff. The act is SO cowardly that neither have the decency to face him. They sever all ties and plot "the next gig." Scumbags.

Good post Saint John. This interperetation definitely feels right to me. And it was Cain who was the prime mover behind the decision to hire Augeri, wasn't it? And Augeri had a personality that was easy to control and his voice was just close enough to the 65 million units already out there.

It seems that Cain wants to repeat this same process nearly ten years on - but this time he won't have the support of a die-hard fan base who have defended Cain's strategy in the past - or who pretended that this strategy didn't even exist.

But in the end Cain knows that the real money comes from fans who don't really give a shit. They've been courting that audience for years now and it just doesn't really matter what we all think here, unfortunately.

[ArnelRox]

are they intelligent?

No.

Or are they just ruthless, unfeeling gits?

Yes.

[ArnelRox]

I'll go first. Mr. Augeri, I apologize.

Quit stealing my thunder Dan or I will have to fire u!

See my thread about unite not fight. I apologized to Mr. Augeri first. U are second banana baby.

[ArnelRox]

Augeri, by all accounts, was having some MAJOR vocal issues and simply wasn't physically capable of singing any longer.

May I just let u know that Augeri can sing wonderfully again & has been able to for a long time. Since before Jeff was named lead singer officially even.

He really deserves our apologies. We bought into something that wasn't entirely factual. He was fucked & fired just like Jeff was.

More than anything else, he deserves our support when his album is released. We should all buy a copy, at least one. Just as we should buy anything Jeff releases too. Maybe someday we'll get these guys together on a stage. & maybe, just maybe, Perry might join them. Dream dream dream.

[ArnelRox]

I cant belive you would apologize to him. Just cause Neal and Jon are the 'bad guys' right now, it doesnt justify Auggies Lippin!
We just know that it wasnt entirley HIS fault, but still.....

In his case, it's ok to forgive, but not forget and most definately not APOLOIGIZE!

U know what Behshad, the truth is out there. Seek it.

Augeri deserves our apologies & our support. He was wronged. Badly. & I participated. Be a man. Give him back his dignity that we all stole from him.

[ArnelRox]

Wrong..Jeremey has that voice...the voice... identical!! ...which negates your whole post!

science doesnt need to do its bit..no cloning neccessary... Jeremey is already here!

All due respect to Jeremey, he is a fabulous singer. But he doesnt sound like Perry. I can pick out THAT voice in a chorus.

[ArnelRox]

Jeremey is the nearest you are ever gonna get to it

Ur opinion. But ur opinion has never been shared by EVERYONE.

celebrate it!!

No. I don't find it celebratory. U are welcome to celebrate. If u think they'll come to the UK again, dream on. U wanna see it, u better get urself a US visa.

One things for sure... backstage passes are gonna be in short supply from J to his "buddies" here!

Yeah they will. B/c much as we love Jeremey we have no desire to see the California Raisins Friga & Fro. So we won't have any interest in going to the concert!

Face it,,, Cain and mop ead got it wrong.... some of us knew it... but we ..knuckled down to it..and JSS did a sterling job...but it was never Journey!

Do u & Monker have a minority club?

youm either want Journey, and their "sound" or you should be on another forum, championing a different act.... whats it to be??

Once I'm done venting, I'll do just that. But I need longer than a few days. Unless Andrew gets sick of me 1st.

I want Journey, with the Perry voice...if it has to be Jeremeys Perry voice..then whats the frikkin prob with that?? cant you just imagine its Perry? is that so hard?

No. Perry is unique. I would know his voice anywhere. Wanna test me on that? Be my guest.

Grow up...stop masturbating to pics of Perry....

I'm short & kinda old now. I'm not gonna grow anymore. Awww. As to the 2nd part of that, sorry, no. It brings me pleasure! Quit masturbating to Jeremey's voice. That's really weird. At least I'm female.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

What pisses me off is that you, TNC, and so many others gave SA absolutely ZERO consideration that Tapegate was more than him.

That's pattently false - and I will laboriously dig up quotes if forced to.
Time and time again, it was mentioned that EVERYONE was culpable.
However, where does the buck ultimately stop?
JSS has said that he would never resort to lipping. NEVER.
A similar comment has been made by Deen Castronovo.
Amazing that all these Journey singers are imbued with free will, save for Steve Augeri that is.

False? Give me a break. You and so many others TARGETED SA and burned him at the stake. Then you brought it up at EVERY opportunity. You spit in his ashes.

Your "where does the buck ultimately stop" mentality supports what I'm saying!!! No need to dig up any old posts.

I argued up and down that for as much as we knew and/or THOUGHT we knew there's NO WAY we knew ALL of the circumstances as to WHY SA hid behind the tapes. It was just, "There's NO justifiable reason." That was nothing more than a Neanderthal, gut level, reaction void of any logic or reasoning.

Fifth time I'm asking you this question.
Name one possible scenario where defrauding your fans is acceptable.
I don't even care if one of the band member's family members had taken ill and needed expensive treatment.

It's more than 5 but who's counting?

I've answered but you just don't like my answer. I'm not smart enough - I'm NOT in the business of music - to intelligently give a scenario beyond that there were perhaps contractual agreements that would've financially tortured one or all members of the JOURNEY team. I even saw where Jeff stated that if it was JE of DefLep struggling that he would've simply bailed and left everyone hanging.

Sometimes "lies" (theatrical/stage technologies) are necessary for the ultimate good. That's all I can say. If you want to be judge, jury, and executioner - feel free. I will say AGAIN - I simply don't have enough info to make an intelligent assessment.

I don't think SA could've walked off even if he wanted to OR more importantly without some kind of devastating legal action.

Considering that the band had to resort to barring tapes and embarassing themselves on the Def tour in order to get Augeri to exit, that wouldn't seem likely.
In fact, according to one band member, they wanted him gone, but "no one had the heart to do it".

"No one had the heart"...? That's hard to believe considering how it was ultimately handled. When it was all said and done SA was thrown mercilessly under the bus. Then you guys dragged him to the stake and torched his ass.

Considering how Jeff's dismissal's been handled I'd say YEAH - NOBODY in that band has ANY heart because it doesn't take any heart to do to SA and JSS what they've done!

BTW I still have a man-crush on you so please don't hurt me.

[Rockindeano]

Hey Wings....

I never read your posts. I have to admit, I see all this mumbled bumbled garbage, zoooom, right past it. I wonder if others do the same thing?

You're a retard.

[Muggins]

I can see them setting up in some casino in Vegas churning out the same old 'Perry' greatest hits every night. It's all they are good for now. It's not surprising as they have proved that their song writing skills just aren't up to the standard of the good old days. Vegas gives them a secure income which is what they all need and crave. Jeff could have turned it all around as he proved with Soul SirkUS. Journey are obviously comfortable... or forced by management to target the greatest hits sales, as most worn out bands do. You have to remember that their management make no effort with promotion or marketing to make any new releases of any significance. I believe management want them on their books as a retro/nostalgic/patriotic band only and dislike any change... ie. Jeff.

To be honest. That's fair enough, as they aren't getting any younger and that kind of lifestyle just isn't for Jeff. But why did they have to fire Jeff in such a cruel way. There were no signs of anyone not liking him on tour and I even heard Jeff mention that he was writing songs with them! It was mentioned that Jeff was the only band member to make any effort with fans after the shows in the UK, so maybe the rest of the band were unhappy and it was planned all along and they were all just going through the motions and keeping Jeff sweet so that they could fulfill their tour date contract and get payed!!! Will we ever really know!!!

Bitter


PS. Unless their BIG secret is 'Rock Star - Search for a Perry clone'!

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Hey Wings....

I never read your posts. I have to admit, I see all this mumbled bumbled garbage, zoooom, right past it. I wonder if others do the same thing?

You're a retard.

Don't hate me just because I can speak in complete (and sober) sentences.

Hey - I'm not "wyngz" anymore - I'm WHEELS, baby!

[Rockindeano]

It's just that you are so Godamned dramatic and all this fire and flair bullshit.

Dude, just speak your mind, don't give me a opera.

[Enigma869]

May I just let u know that Augeri can sing wonderfully again & has been able to for a long time. Since before Jeff was named lead singer officially even.

He really deserves our apologies. We bought into something that wasn't entirely factual. He was fucked & fired just like Jeff was.

Sorry...I don't agree for one second that I owe Steve Augeri an apology for ANYTHING! When the entire tape episode broke, I held the ENTIRE BAND'S feet to the fire, as I never thought for a second one person was responsible! Nothing has changed for me! I still hold the entire band responsible for the fraud they perpetrated on their fans, and Augeri was as big of a part of that as everyone else! The bottom line (no matter how anyone attempts to sugar coat things) is that Augeri was up there pretending to sing, night after night! Anyone who truly believes that behavior warrants an apology needs to stop looking at the world through rose-colored glasses! The only apology that should take place is from Augeri to Journey fans across the world for blatantly lying to them and stealing their money! Deen, Neal, Jon, and Ross should also be part of that apology!


John from Boston