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Postby donnaplease » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:33 am

RockinDeano wrote:You feel bullshit. You love Jeremey because he sounds like Perry, and this is not a follow up to Perry. You had your period of time where Augeri came in, and did do a decent job, but you felt as if it was robbing from SP. A few changes later, and the fact Jeremey is from Virginia and you have met him, now instills a certain "push" to get him in Journey. Whatever. You're fuckin sad.

I got news for you. Being in Journey isn't a very good thing anymore. Go ahead, wave the pom poms. The chance is gone. Jeff could write, mix, produce, whatever. You won't have that chance anylonger. I can't wait til you unload on Bitch and Squirt for not writing anything new. By hiring Jeremey, that is what they are telling you. NOTHING NEW.

Hell, had I known they were never going to put something new out, or wanted to for shit's sake, I would have kept my mouth closed about tapegate and we could still be hearing the GH nightly.


I believe these might be 2 different issues. Jeff is gone from Journey. NOTHING we do or say is going to undo the damage that the Frig & the Fro have caused. It sucks and we're all furious about it. But, someone else who has been our friend, and has given us some great music and great times has an opportunity to possibly live out some of his life's dreams. Regardless of what we think of the 2 dickheads of the year, we can still want Jeremey to succeed. Jeremey didn't do this to Jeff. Dumb & Dumber did.

Whatever comes of this mess is out of our hands. Well, maybe not yours, so much. :twisted: Each and every one of us needs to follow our own hearts and consciences. I understand how you feel, and why you feel as you do. You know how I feel about JSS. Sherrie feels the same way. Let's not let Cain & UnAbel tear us apart, when we need to band together in support of JSS.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:59 am

RockinDeano wrote:Oh for fucks sake, don't play the victim card. You big baby,


I'm not the victim here. Jeff is and you're trying to make Jeremey the next. He's done nothing to deserve that.

Slaughter F&F. They deserve it. You know I've been fed up with them since '97, but by God Jeremey has done nothing wrong.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:02 am

What a bunch of crap filled posts.

For you to even want to follow this band regardless of who the singer is is beyond me.

Enjoy it.

Can't support it.
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Postby Lula » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:07 am

I have no interest whatsoever in supporting a band that is trying to relive their glory days if it is without the original glory days' members which to me means Smitty, Rolie, and Perry back in the fold. And quite frankly, I'm not a fan of Jeremy's voice. As far as caring about these guys as human beings.... not anymore, they are pond scum in my eyes. They could have handled this so much better and all this shit would not be nearly half as bad as it is.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:08 am

RockinDeano wrote:What a bunch of crap filled posts.

For you to even want to follow this band regardless of who the singer is is beyond me.

Enjoy it.

Can't support it.


You don't have to "HUN" Image, but don't try to slaughter those of us who want to give Jeremey the chance he deserves. Please. Image
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Postby Tarseea » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:12 am

I'll stay long enough to watch Dean chuck SHIT...now that is amusing otherwise I was done before Jeff I can be done again.....I only came back because of Jeff
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Postby Melissa » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:15 am

Lula wrote:I have no interest whatsoever in supporting a band that is trying to relive their glory days if it is without the original glory days' members which to me means Smitty, Rolie, and Perry back in the fold. And quite frankly, I'm not a fan of Jeremy's voice. As far as caring about these guys as human beings.... not anymore, they are pond scum in my eyes. They could have handled this so much better and all this shit would not be nearly half as bad as it is.


My thoughts exactly.
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Postby Deb » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:34 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:What a bunch of crap filled posts.

For you to even want to follow this band regardless of who the singer is is beyond me.

Enjoy it.

Can't support it.


You don't have to "HUN" Image, but don't try to slaughter those of us who want to give Jeremey the chance he deserves. Please. Image


Sher, ya know I love ya sistah and you are totally entitled to your feelings and opinions. I like Jeremey/Frontiers too and yes he should get a chance to live out the dream just like Jeff, but I have to say......I think I would lose some respect for even Perry himself if he came back to Journey after the dispicable behaviour displayed.
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:04 pm

As far as I'm concerned, Journey decided 2007 is the year they officially died.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:42 pm

Tarseea wrote:I'll stay long enough to watch Dean chuck SHIT...now that is amusing


The days are numbered...for real.
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Re: So, Who's Willing?

Postby *Laura » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:58 pm

piecesofeight wrote:Right now, in just this thread, for all to see later-if they seriously are done, not sure if they are just heated up right now, or if they will support them no mater what.
Not hidden amongst a bunch of other messages and topics, right here to check out later and see who stuck, or who changed and why.
Me...DONE!

"Heated up?".No,just completely disgusted.
Right now I am trying to find the logic behind Journey's move.I simply can't. :?

What can I expect from a band that acts this way?
If they were capable of killing their only chance to be relevant,what about the future music they will make?
What if suddenly they decide to go pop or disco?What if they will change singers every 2 years?
How can I believe in anything they say anymore?

'We want to take care of the legacy'...'we want to move on sonically'...or whatever the shit they're saying... :roll:
No,I just cannot be a fan of a bunch of musicians who have no idea what to do with their treasures.
They had it ALL:a capable,honest singer/songwriter,a legendary name(JOURNEY),an unbelievable exposure,a die-hard fanbase...All thrown out the window.
Jesus.Other bands would have killed for this.

I don't believe in Journey anymore.

Fan?Yes,of the Classic Journey with Steve Perry.
A new fan of Jeff Scott Soto since I discovered him.

I can't say that I won't be curious to hear the new line-up.I will listen to any new music they come up with.But that's far from really supporting them.
No,I wouldn't fly across the Atlantic and spend a shitload of money to see them play in the future.
I have done that only for the JSS fronted Journey,and it was damn WORTH IT.

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Postby mikemarrs » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:43 pm

i'll be quick about this.i haven't been here long so i was wondering what 'tapegate' is? i've seen it spoken of once or twice.

has it got something to do with messed up vocal cords and milli vanilli style theatrics?

not being a smartass but just curious.....
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Postby Andrew » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:44 pm

mikemarrs wrote:i'll be quick about this.i haven't been here long so i was wondering what 'tapegate' is? i've seen it spoken of once or twice.

has it got something to do with messed up vocal cords and milli vanilli style theatrics?

not being a smartass but just curious.....


Just set aside 14 hours and hit "search" within the forum.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:51 pm

Andrew wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be quick about this.i haven't been here long so i was wondering what 'tapegate' is? i've seen it spoken of once or twice.

has it got something to do with messed up vocal cords and milli vanilli style theatrics?

not being a smartass but just curious.....


Just set aside 14 hours and hit "search" within the forum.


:lol: One year ago, all hell was breaking loose.
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Postby styxman » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:55 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
Andrew wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be quick about this.i haven't been here long so i was wondering what 'tapegate' is? i've seen it spoken of once or twice.

has it got something to do with messed up vocal cords and milli vanilli style theatrics?

not being a smartass but just curious.....


Just set aside 14 hours and hit "search" within the forum.


:lol: One year ago, all hell was breaking loose.


It was all about Schon and Cain, Mikemarrs, they had to have taped recordings of their instruments as they couldn't cut it anymore..it was pretty bad stuff :shock:
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Postby mikemarrs » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:59 pm

wow.i guessed wrong i'll admit.usually you think of the vocalist being one to use tapes.schon and cain must be getting lazy or just forgetting their parts to have to resort to those steps.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:04 pm

mikemarrs wrote:wow.i guessed wrong i'll admit.usually you think of the vocalist being one to use tapes.schon and cain must be getting lazy or just forgetting their parts to have to resort to those steps.


:lol: :) :D :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 pm

mikemarrs wrote:wow.i guessed wrong i'll admit.usually you think of the vocalist being one to use tapes.schon and cain must be getting lazy or just forgetting their parts to have to resort to those steps.



You've been punk'd by styxman. :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:10 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
Andrew wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be quick about this.i haven't been here long so i was wondering what 'tapegate' is? i've seen it spoken of once or twice.

has it got something to do with messed up vocal cords and milli vanilli style theatrics?

not being a smartass but just curious.....


Just set aside 14 hours and hit "search" within the forum.


:lol: One year ago, all hell was breaking loose.


Can hardly wait for what next year will bring... :roll:
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Postby styxman » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:11 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:wow.i guessed wrong i'll admit.usually you think of the vocalist being one to use tapes.schon and cain must be getting lazy or just forgetting their parts to have to resort to those steps.



You've been punk'd by styxman. :lol:


It's what I live for :lol: Best one yet :wink: although MM just played along...right 8)
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Re: So, Who's Willing?

Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:14 pm

*Laura wrote:What can I expect from a band that acts this way?
If they were capable of killing their only chance to be relevant,what about the future music they will make?
What if suddenly they decide to go pop or disco?What if they will change singers every 2 years?
How can I believe in anything they say anymore?


According to JC they'll be pursuing their "legacy sound" and I thank God for that NOT because I want them to live in the past but because it saves me from getting murdered had they planned to do Latin rhythms!
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lets just say what if.....

Postby mikemarrs » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:15 pm

lets just say what if....

what if journey brings back steve perry for one final tour and or one final album in summer of 2008.would that change your opinions in any way,shape or form?

if they were smart they would chunk the idea of slaving in theatres for several years and play for one huge final payday with perry but i'm pretty sure steve would never do that in a million years BUT money talks.especially if someone threw out 100 million or more for one final shot.
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:23 pm

Lula wrote:I have no interest whatsoever in supporting a band that is trying to relive their glory days if it is without the original glory days' members which to me means Smitty, Rolie, and Perry back in the fold.


I've been saying this since 1998 when I saw SA in Cleveland. Right after the show I turned to my friends and said, "OK - now that the greatest hits thing has been done I can't wait to see what's next!"

:roll:

With each passing tour/studio release I begged, whined, and bitched about them being a nostalgic act and mockery of their former self. I pushed the Latin rhythm idea NOT because it was my idea but because Neal and Jon said they were going to explore it (which they did briefly in FL) and I thought it might be the thing to help them get out from under the SP shadow.

With JSS I figured they'd finally turned the corner and were on their way to new frontiers.

Honestly, when I saw JSS post about JOURNEY's next release benig in the vein of Infinity and the "classic" JOURNEY sound I was LIVID as well as suspicious that something might be up. I NEVER imagined it would come to this.
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Re: lets just say what if.....

Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:26 pm

mikemarrs wrote:lets just say what if....

what if journey brings back steve perry for one final tour and or one final album in summer of 2008.would that change your opinions in any way,shape or form?

if they were smart they would chunk the idea of slaving in theatres for several years and play for one huge final payday with perry but i'm pretty sure steve would never do that in a million years BUT money talks.especially if someone threw out 100 million or more for one final shot.


No. With all due respect this is contrived bullshit.

They need to bring back JSS and put something together called ART. Something they haven't done in a long time.
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Postby mikemarrs » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:55 pm

its sad but i guess they are content to be a nostalgia act.i'm not putting them down in any way but like others have said they were showing some signs of being relevant again with soto in the band.playing the same beatin to death songs night after night doesn't help matters.being spontaneous and throwing gems in there that aren't heard much goes a long way.
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Postby mikemarrs » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:57 pm

sad because i never got to see them live and i've been a fan twenty five years.
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Postby Todd H » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:11 am

Been a fan since the 70's but I am now done. No disrespect to Jeremy, as I'm sure he's a decent guy, but they screwed the pooch on this one.
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:21 am

RockinDeano wrote:Jeff has never lied to me. Never.


Deano, you are so naive and innocent bro'.

Did he tell you that you're special? That you're the only one? That there could never be another Deano?

Well, those are just things that people say.

Sorry dude.
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