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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:08 am

By the way... "Journey Featuring Steve Perry"

IF it did happen... it would be the other way around. :wink:
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:31 am

I think it is going to happen ON PERRY'S TERMS !!! They are off the rest of the year and Jeff has said nothing derogatory. Perry said something in an interview that should have caught Neal's ear. Where is the money,huge money, and we all know the answer and I'll bet it will be 5-10 shows and if they are smart a DVD. I think Perry will ride the wave of the Sopranos and the Cubs event. 2008 Reunion- for one very small tour . The best laid plans of mice and men,often take a couple years planning. That is a concept Neal & Jon have yet to discover.
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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby Crazie Scarab » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:36 am

mrmusicman73 wrote:You heard it first on this post and a year or so from now you will look back on this post and reflect.

This is what I believe to be happening:

1. Journey website is being redesigned to include Steve Perry
2. Journey is signing with a major label with Steve Perry
3. Journey is taking the year off to write new music and record with Steve Perry
4. Sometime in 2008 you will see a new Journey record with Steve Perry, tour summer of 2008 or 2009 (get tickets early as we all know how these things can go)

I know many many people will not believe any of this will happen, but before you decide for yourself know that Steve Perry has and can still sing, he has been working with vocal coaches and has been much more active in public. Factor that in along with the Sopranos exposure (notice they used Perry's picture) in the press and they did not call him the "former" lead singer of Journey.

Additionally, it is my feeling that this and only this event could have led to JSS's departure. Without Perry in the picture, JSS was the BEST hope for the band and a new direction. I saw them live with JSS and was blown away just as everyone else was. That said, there is no need for a new direction if Perry is to work again.


Hellofa first post. That, I'll say..
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Postby Soto All The Way » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:38 am

Some one please call CJ and Mark and get BT opened back up so these NUT JOBS will go back there.......This is the MOST ridiculous post I've seen in awhile.....I got a good chuckle though.....Thanks.

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Postby Saint John » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:38 am

squirt1 wrote:I think it is going to happen ON PERRY'S TERMS !!! They are off the rest of the year and Jeff has said nothing derogatory. Perry said something in an interview that should have caught Neal's ear. Where is the money,huge money, and we all know the answer and I'll bet it will be 5-10 shows and if they are smart a DVD. I think Perry will ride the wave of the Sopranos and the Cubs event. 2008 Reunion- for one very small tour . The best laid plans of mice and men,often take a couple years planning. That is a concept Neal & Jon have yet to discover.



1) Of COURSE it would be on "Perry's terms."

2) 5-10 shows is a waste of time. NO promoter is going to back that. Maybe Ringling Bros.

3) It was the White Sox, not the Cubs.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:39 am

squirt1 wrote:I think it is going to happen ON PERRY'S TERMS !!! They are off the rest of the year and Jeff has said nothing derogatory. Perry said something in an interview that should have caught Neal's ear. Where is the money,huge money, and we all know the answer and I'll bet it will be 5-10 shows and if they are smart a DVD. I think Perry will ride the wave of the Sopranos and the Cubs event. 2008 Reunion- for one very small tour . The best laid plans of mice and men,often take a couple years planning. That is a concept Neal & Jon have yet to discover.


Sorprano's and Cubs? I don't hink so.....It wasn't that big. It was the White Sox anyway......

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Postby piecesofeight » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:40 am

It will be for something, like one special show for a dvd or something like that.

I just wonder how many would put aside how they feel about the two !@#$%^& right now, to go see something like. Those who are huge Perry fans, yet have sworn of Journey.
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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:00 pm

Saint John wrote:
Classlessly firing a guy you called a FRIEND only sent a "message" to Steve Perry that these guys are still assholes. Perry knows he's "still the guy." He certainly doesn't need those two ass-clowns to reinforce that by sticking a knife in a friend's back.



Indeed. And I would go on to agree with all that but we all know I express myself better visually. :lol:


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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:05 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Classlessly firing a guy you called a FRIEND only sent a "message" to Steve Perry that these guys are still assholes. Perry knows he's "still the guy." He certainly doesn't need those two ass-clowns to reinforce that by sticking a knife in a friend's back.



Indeed. And I would go on to agree with all that but we all know I express myself better visually. :lol:


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That is a literation (visually) of a Herbie quote... Perry, lifesaver, drowning... Herb's a prophet! :lol:
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Postby Rick » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:06 pm

piecesofeight wrote:It will be for something, like one special show for a dvd or something like that.

I just wonder how many would put aside how they feel about the two !@#$%^& right now, to go see something like. Those who are huge Perry fans, yet have sworn of Journey.


With all due respect. SP isn't going to go through hiring a voice coach, lose weight and grow his hair out for one show. He's at least going to do an album and like was said by squirt, but I think 10 to 20 shows.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:13 pm

Give it up folks, it AIN'T happenin'!

Perry's not THAT desperate for money, like the other guys are. Why is it that EVERYONE else has to bail Frick & Frack outta the messes they get themselves in to?
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Postby AR » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:14 pm

I have more and more respect for Steve Perry as each day does on.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:15 pm

I have less reason to wonder why he kept leaving the band.
You have to reason they treated him the same way.
I'd be 'toast' too.
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Postby Deb » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:17 pm

AR wrote:I have more and more respect for Steve Perry as each day does on.


Well, he IS the shiznit! :wink: :D
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:18 pm

whocares wrote:
Perry's not THAT desperate for money, like the other guys are.



Which is why he's just a'danglin' that life preserver. "Ha! Lookie what I got! Want it? PSYCH!" ROFLMAO!
If anything like that EVER happened, talk about every last one of us getting PUNK'D! :shock:

(except the dude who started this damn thread)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:20 pm

I've slammed perry, but no way he would do this.

I'd also have NO problem if he billed himself as "The Voice Of Journey" or "Formerly Of."


I don't think he'd attempt to abscond with the name, though.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:27 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
whocares wrote:
Perry's not THAT desperate for money, like the other guys are.



Which is why he's just a'danglin' that life preserver. "Ha! Lookie what I got! Want it? PSYCH!" ROFLMAO!
If anything like that EVER happened, talk about every last one of us getting PUNK'D! :shock:

(except the dude who started this damn thread)


You can see it now, they're on the boat sinking slowly, Perry's on his multimillion dollar yacht wiping his ass with filet mignon and waving to the guys as he counts his money. :lol:
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:45 pm

Soto all the way & St John- Give me a break ! Sox/Cubs Chicago . OK ? I would have got it right by tomorrow. The NFL is my sport. It is still fun to speculate because nobody,but nobody knows what Perry will ever do for what reason or when. At least we agree it would be on his terms. I am not so sure the music game with promoters is still the same because the whole music industry & concert scene is changing. I think someone would take the risk with Perry and whatever # concerts Perry would agree to rather than zilch ! Oh - IMO
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:00 pm

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Enigma869 wrote:Perry isn't coming back, folks! Honestly, Perry coming back wouldn't even make any sense. I think Perry is acutely aware of the fact that he is considered a legendary voice by so many. I also don't think Perry can sing to the level he once did. He has always been a man of immense pride and perfection. If he were to come back and simply not have it, his legend would be forever tarnished (in his mind). I think it makes much more sense for Perry to sit on the sidelines and cash the checks, while everyone else speculates as to whether or not he should dust the cobwebs off of the vocal chords! This is the first of what will probably be many posts, speculating on Perry coming back to Journey. It will all come to an end as soon as Journey announces their next lead singer of the month!


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So what? His voice would still be good John, doesn't have to be the level it once was. Why do people keep predicting his range? it doesn't matter.




Perry's range matters more than anything...except for a couple ballads, Journey is a guitar band. You can tune down 1/2 step (like Perry did on the FTLOSM tour), but you can't transpose any lower than that for any songs that use open chords on guitar: Stone In Love, WITS, Separate Ways, Escape, BGTY, AWYWI...pretty much everything, actually.

If Perry can't sing the songs the way he did...if he can't hit the high B at the end of "Separate Ways," then it's not going to work. It may sell a lot of tickets initially, but it wouldn't work, and musically wouldn't help the band or its legacy.

Lots of bands who's singers have continually been busy (Rush) or who's songs do not require massive use of the high end of the singer's range (the Stones) can continue touring well into their 50's or even 60's...Journey is not one of those bands.

Additionally, the fact that Journey with Perry hasn't been seen in over 20 years means that there hasn't been aging in the public eye the way the Stones, McCartney, Springsteen, etc have. People think of the Stones, and they think of the Stones now, because there's been a continuous stream of albums, tours, TV broadcasts, etc since 1989. People think of Journey, they think of the early 80's videos and the Houston show that aired on VH1 Classic...with nothing in between to soften the blow of a 58 year old Perry attempting to act like he's 30 all over again.


I don't know why I bothered to post all that, it's not happening anyway. :roll:

We'll be lucky if we ever hear any original music from Perry ever again, much less any kind of public performance, with or without Journey.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:12 pm

For those who don't believe Steve Perry is returning, don't you find it extremely odd that the JSS announcement was timed on the SAME day as the Sopranos esposure news release?

If they knew prior to May 12th that JSS was going to be out, they surely would have made an announcement PRIOR to the Sopranos thing. But what really happened in my estimation is that the Sopranos thing became the catalyst for Perry to re-unite with the band.

So now you ask, "Why haven't they announced this?" The answer is that I would think they would still need to work out the fine details and they want to keep a Perry reunion underwraps. I bet they are just in the stage of "Yes, this is what we want to do." If this is the case, then they owed it to JSS to break it off with him right away. And yes, I am sure JSS is disappointed as anyone would be in his position, but at the same time, I am sure he wouldn't want to be the one that was known for standing in the way of a reunion with Perry. I really doubt that they stabbed JSS in the back as many have suggested. If this were really the case, don't you believe we would see a Van-Hagar/Roth type of press release war? I truly believe that they told JSS as soon as they knew for sure themselves, remember the Sopranos thing only got finalized Thursday June 7th and was only in the works 2-3 weeks prior which would have been right after their last show together.

Another thing you have to consider is the timing is perfect for a reunion with Perry as other previously unlikely reunions have been taking place, look at Genesis and Police as prime examples.

Also look at the bands management, Irving Azoff, he got the Eagles back together and also worked magic, although breifly with Sammy Hagar and Van-Halen, I would have never thought I would EVER see Van-Hagar in concert after what happened with Gary Cherone, but I did and it was great.

I bet they keep this whole thing a secret until they have a new album to release as it would be far more impactful if they did it this way. I am pretty sure that is how they released Trial by Fire, I remember how suprised I was to see a promo commercial on TV with Journey when that was released.

Even though they say they are taking the rest of the year off, I would not be suprised if they get into the studio over the summer or in the fall. Trial by Fire only took a few weeks to record I believe, so you never know.

Another thing to consider here is that although Jon an Neal are GREAT musicians and GREAT musical contributors of ideas, I don't beleive they are the BEST song writers. At least at writing a song from beginning to end on there own. Steve Perry was the one who brought out the BEST in each of the musicians and helped them develop there musical ideas into the timeless classics we now enjoy. Don't believe me, listen to RED 13, the songs on that album sound incomplete, almost like they had a really good idea but didn't know where to take it. With Arrival, they had a lot of creative help to bring out the best in everyone which is why that album worked as well as it did.

If Steve Perry didn't reunite with Journey, then JSS would have been the perfect choice for continuing and closing the chapter on the Perry years. He has the song writing, production and singing skills to bring Journey into a whole new direction and was their only shot SHORT of a Steve Perry reunion to help Journey become relevent once again.

Remember, the band Journey is a business, and as a business you are not going to toss out your best chance for profitable success (JSS) only to continue with a tribute band lead singer, come on people, get real here. Do you honestly think that anyone with a financial interest in Journey would sign off on this? It would be financial suicide for all involved. The reviews and the ticket sales with JSS speak for themselves, the ONLY thing that makes sense for what has been announced is a real Steve Perry album and tour with Journey, end of story.

If I am wrong, lets here from JSS himself to give us his side, bet he won't because he knows the real deal, hence his silence. If not JSS, lets here from any other band member, again we won't because what I am predicting is TRUE. And beleive me, they want this buzz to preclude their new work and release of what the fans have been wanting for years, a Steve Perry reunion. The fans are the bands customers and lifeblood, if given the right opportunity and series of events, I think they truly want to give there customers what they want. Let's thank the Sopranos in advanced for what is to come! :)
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Postby cyndy! » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:19 pm

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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:23 pm

Did I seriously read all that?
OMG... two minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:26 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:For those who don't believe Steve Perry is returning, don't you find it extremely odd that the JSS announcement was timed on the SAME day as the Sopranos esposure news release?

If they knew prior to May 12th that JSS was going to be out, they surely would have made an announcement PRIOR to the Sopranos thing. But what really happened in my estimation is that the Sopranos thing became the catalyst for Perry to re-unite with the band.

So now you ask, "Why haven't they announced this?" The answer is that I would think they would still need to work out the fine details and they want to keep a Perry reunion underwraps. I bet they are just in the stage of "Yes, this is what we want to do." If this is the case, then they owed it to JSS to break it off with him right away. And yes, I am sure JSS is disappointed as anyone would be in his position, but at the same time, I am sure he wouldn't want to be the one that was known for standing in the way of a reunion with Perry. I really doubt that they stabbed JSS in the back as many have suggested. If this were really the case, don't you believe we would see a Van-Hagar/Roth type of press release war? I truly believe that they told JSS as soon as they knew for sure themselves, remember the Sopranos thing only got finalized Thursday June 7th and was only in the works 2-3 weeks prior which would have been right after their last show together.

Another thing you have to consider is the timing is perfect for a reunion with Perry as other previously unlikely reunions have been taking place, look at Genesis and Police as prime examples.

Also look at the bands management, Irving Azoff, he got the Eagles back together and also worked magic, although breifly with Sammy Hagar and Van-Halen, I would have never thought I would EVER see Van-Hagar in concert after what happened with Gary Cherone, but I did and it was great.

I bet they keep this whole thing a secret until they have a new album to release as it would be far more impactful if they did it this way. I am pretty sure that is how they released Trial by Fire, I remember how suprised I was to see a promo commercial on TV with Journey when that was released.

Even though they say they are taking the rest of the year off, I would not be suprised if they get into the studio over the summer or in the fall. Trial by Fire only took a few weeks to record I believe, so you never know.

Another thing to consider here is that although Jon an Neal are GREAT musicians and GREAT musical contributors of ideas, I don't beleive they are the BEST song writers. At least at writing a song from beginning to end on there own. Steve Perry was the one who brought out the BEST in each of the musicians and helped them develop there musical ideas into the timeless classics we now enjoy. Don't believe me, listen to RED 13, the songs on that album sound incomplete, almost like they had a really good idea but didn't know where to take it. With Arrival, they had a lot of creative help to bring out the best in everyone which is why that album worked as well as it did.

If Steve Perry didn't reunite with Journey, then JSS would have been the perfect choice for continuing and closing the chapter on the Perry years. He has the song writing, production and singing skills to bring Journey into a whole new direction and was their only shot SHORT of a Steve Perry reunion to help Journey become relevent once again.

Remember, the band Journey is a business, and as a business you are not going to toss out your best chance for profitable success (JSS) only to continue with a tribute band lead singer, come on people, get real here. Do you honestly think that anyone with a financial interest in Journey would sign off on this? It would be financial suicide for all involved. The reviews and the ticket sales with JSS speak for themselves, the ONLY thing that makes sense for what has been announced is a real Steve Perry album and tour with Journey, end of story.

If I am wrong, lets here from JSS himself to give us his side, bet he won't because he knows the real deal, hence his silence. If not JSS, lets here from any other band member, again we won't because what I am predicting is TRUE. And beleive me, they want this buzz to preclude their new work and release of what the fans have been wanting for years, a Steve Perry reunion. The fans are the bands customers and lifeblood, if given the right opportunity and series of events, I think they truly want to give there customers what they want. Let's thank the Sopranos in advanced for what is to come! :)


Don't listen to them..I don't think I've ever read a post that LONG, that kept me poised as to what you were going to say next. WOW. Are you going to be sticking around here? I hope so. I agree with you though, as the days go on, I really think that, "hey you know what? Maybe Steve is returning.." One can only hope, and your post makes it easier to hold onto the long awaited hopes and dreams that maybe one day, they can drop their egos and play for the love of none other than....the music.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:29 pm

Seriously, those of you who think this was perfect timing and that SP is coming back, need a bigger reality check than Neal & Jon do.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:30 pm

whocares wrote:Seriously, those of you who think this was perfect timing and that SP is coming back, need a bigger reality check than Neal & Jon do.


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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby froy » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:35 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:You heard it first on this post and a year or so from now you will look back on this post and reflect.

This is what I believe to be happening:

1. Journey website is being redesigned to include Steve Perry
2. Journey is signing with a major label with Steve Perry
3. Journey is taking the year off to write new music and record with Steve Perry
4. Sometime in 2008 you will see a new Journey record with Steve Perry, tour summer of 2008 or 2009 (get tickets early as we all know how these things can go)

I know many many people will not believe any of this will happen, but before you decide for yourself know that Steve Perry has and can still sing, he has been working with vocal coaches and has been much more active in public. Factor that in along with the Sopranos exposure (notice they used Perry's picture) in the press and they did not call him the "former" lead singer of Journey.

Additionally, it is my feeling that this and only this event could have led to JSS's departure. Without Perry in the picture, JSS was the BEST hope for the band and a new direction. I saw them live with JSS and was blown away just as everyone else was. That said, there is no need for a new direction if Perry is to work again.



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How else can they sound like there records without Perry
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Postby T-TIME » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:38 pm

all the planets are lined up people. if he doesn't come back now then he never will. everybody in the journey army better book you room in cleveland for the induction ceremony in 08 or 09. i'll be there opening night and i'll be there in cleveland and about 20 shows in between. r n r hall of fame is playing apart in this (see sp's last interview). they will kick down the door wearing coat tails.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:40 pm

Froy, Perry ain't coming back, neither is DDY to Styx. At this point, they're BOTH above the bands they were once part of.

Geez, what a bunch of nitwits in this thread. worse than Loons.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:44 pm

You have a better chance of growing a unicorn from a beanstalk.

Name me one viable motivation Perry would have to rejoin these guys?
Not something stupid like "for the fans"... a real, honest to God, why would he do it?

If he does anything, its going to be solo. Keep your pantyLOONS on.
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Postby SteveForever » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:44 pm

:mrgreen:
I love this thread...
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