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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:46 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:
For those who don't believe Steve Perry is returning, don't you find it extremely odd that the JSS announcement was timed on the SAME day as the Sopranos esposure news release?



Of course it was timed that way but certainly not for the reason you're suggesting. They wanted to bury the JSS story, not use the whole thing to preface Steve Perry returning. :roll:

Not only is he not returning, he makes sure to disassociate himself from these guys. Just last week he said:

"And I think you need to print that I have not been in the band since May of 1998."

If he was about to return, WHY THE HELL would he be saying something like that?
If he were returning, he wouldn't say anything at ALL about 1998. Just not mention it.

Perry no come backey. Okay, so 'nuff said.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:46 pm

Agreed, it is definately now or never for a Perry come back. After such a sucessful tour with JSS, it is career/financial suicide for the remainder of the band to go any other direction now that JSS is gone.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:53 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:Agreed, it is definately now or never for a Perry come back. After such a sucessful tour with JSS, it is career/financial suicide for the remainder of the band to go any other direction now that JSS is gone.


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HE AIN'T COMING BACK! WTF! Can't you idiots get it through your thick skulls?
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Postby T-TIME » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:53 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:You have a better chance of growing a unicorn from a beanstalk.

Name me one viable motivation Perry would have to rejoin these guys?
Not something stupid like "for the fans"... a real, honest to God, why would he do it?

If he does anything, its going to be solo. Keep your pantyLOONS on.

perry never cared about being a star, $, or the fans but his ego is enormous and always refered to journey as "his baby" even though he came in late. this will prove ( in his mind) that his stamp is the only stamp on journey. with so much crying out for journey to be in the r n r hof, this reunion will do it and prove to himself, his ego, and 2 former santana members that journey belongs to him as long as he wants it to. i'm also a huge vh fan but to have them inducted before journey is a tragedy to emense porportion. i'm buying the drinks in cleveland.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:58 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:You have a better chance of growing a unicorn from a beanstalk.

Name me one viable motivation Perry would have to rejoin these guys?
Not something stupid like "for the fans"... a real, honest to God, why would he do it?

If he does anything, its going to be solo. Keep your pantyLOONS on.


One word "Time".

You see, Perry misses Journey and the experience. Everyone involved may finally be at a point in life where they realize that time is not on their side and that they should fix their legendary legacy. They may now all realize and now agree that they don't want Journey to end in a fractured state. Time heals wounds, maybe all camps have grown up a bit over the years, only time will tell now.
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:02 pm

I think you hit it ! #30th Anniv & saving their legacy. That may be what Perry desires. For all of you that worry that Perry shouldn't this, guess what, if he does, he has experience, is a big boy, and well qualified to deal with it.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:02 pm

you people should be banned from this place, based on simple stupidity. :roll:
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:04 pm

Banned??? That is BT !
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Postby Moon Beam » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:04 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:
Blue Radio Girl wrote:You have a better chance of growing a unicorn from a beanstalk.

Name me one viable motivation Perry would have to rejoin these guys?
Not something stupid like "for the fans"... a real, honest to God, why would he do it?

If he does anything, its going to be solo. Keep your pantyLOONS on.


One word "Time".

You see, Perry misses Journey and the experience. Everyone involved may finally be at a point in life where they realize that time is not on their side and that they should fix their legendary legacy. They may now all realize and now agree that they don't want Journey to end in a fractured state. Time heals wounds, maybe all camps have grown up a bit over the years, only time will tell now.



Nope, my guess is on love of green and retirement plans.
The only reason that Steve Perry coming back or Journey continuing
in any direction would be money.
It's been about the green for quite some time.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:05 pm

Even though Steve Perry stated things like "mark it down that I haven't been in the band since '98.." he IS human. I know if I was S.P, keeping quiet this long would have me foaming at the mouth. How can he just sit there and NOT want to do this gig? Deep down his stomach has to be turning thinking this is the last shot to live here. Life is too short, will it be worth it to not come back just because of your ego? No. That's why he'll be back sooner or later. He's human, he's itching at the jock to have this shot come before it's too late..
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:07 pm

A big shout out to whocares and Moon Beam for reiterating things when I'm too tired to.

He's not fucking Elvis, there's no UFOs, and I don't see any signs of armageddon. The speculation is pointless.

"The divorce is final." "I doubt we'll ever stand together again."
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:08 pm

whocares wrote:you people should be banned from this place, based on simple stupidity. :roll:


Stupidity would be to fire your best post-Perry chance for success, which in this case is clearly JSS.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:08 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Even though Steve Perry stated things like "mark it down that I haven't been in the band since '98.." he IS human. I know if I was S.P, keeping quiet this long would have me foaming at the mouth. How can he just sit there and NOT want to do this gig? Deep down his stomach has to be turning thinking this is the last shot to live here. Life is too short, will it be worth it to not come back just because of your ego? No. That's why he'll be back sooner or later. He's human, he's itching at the jock to have this shot come before it's too late..



Your theory is based upon assuming Perry is miserable. It is possible the man is happy with life and content to live as he damn well pleases. Quit trying to put these guys in the grave. They're not THAT old.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:10 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Even though Steve Perry stated things like "mark it down that I haven't been in the band since '98.." he IS human. I know if I was S.P, keeping quiet this long would have me foaming at the mouth. How can he just sit there and NOT want to do this gig? Deep down his stomach has to be turning thinking this is the last shot to live here. Life is too short, will it be worth it to not come back just because of your ego? No. That's why he'll be back sooner or later. He's human, he's itching at the jock to have this shot come before it's too late..


that's just it. You are NOT Steve Perry. Stop with the If I was SP. that's total crap. You' let these guys screw you over, and come back for more? Nice morals you have. :roll:

It's not about SP's ego, or the need for MOney. HE DOES NOT NEED IT! The only people itching at the Jock as you put it, are peole like you who won't take NO for an answer. get over it already.
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Postby T-TIME » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:11 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:A big shout out to whocares and Moon Beam for reiterating things when I'm too tired to.

He's not fucking Elvis, there's no UFOs, and I don't see any signs of armageddon. The speculation is pointless.

"The divorce is final." "I doubt we'll ever stand together again."

well, elvis is no steve perry to me. as long as he's living i'll hold on to any hope and in the mean time be at every fucking show going fucking nuts for whomever is singing while your listening to alllll those wonderful songs that won't be sang by every lead they kicked out in the meantime.
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:14 pm

Blue Jean Girl- Isn't it fun to speculate? I love it. Now, about what Perry said- What was the context of the ? he was asked so I can gauge his answer?
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:15 pm

whocares wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Even though Steve Perry stated things like "mark it down that I haven't been in the band since '98.." he IS human. I know if I was S.P, keeping quiet this long would have me foaming at the mouth. How can he just sit there and NOT want to do this gig? Deep down his stomach has to be turning thinking this is the last shot to live here. Life is too short, will it be worth it to not come back just because of your ego? No. That's why he'll be back sooner or later. He's human, he's itching at the jock to have this shot come before it's too late..


that's just it. You are NOT Steve Perry. Stop with the If I was SP. that's total crap. You' let these guys screw you over, and come back for more? Nice morals you have. :roll:

It's not about SP's ego, or the need for MOney. HE DOES NOT NEED IT! The only people itching at the Jock as you put it, are peole like you who won't take NO for an answer. get over it already.


You're right, I'm not Steve Perry. That's why I said if I was him. As long as there is a tiny, little itty bitty possibility that he COULD return, and like T-TIME said, this is his only shot at it, and until that final nail is dug into the coffin, then why not cling onto it? It's the only hope a Journey fan has left..
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:16 pm

T-TIME wrote:while your listening to alllll those wonderful songs that won't be sang by every lead they kicked out in the meantime.


What in the wide world of sports are you even talking about dude?
Seriously, WTF does that even mean?

That I'll sit around listening to imaginary songs from JSS?
That I'll sit around not listening to Journey songs being sang by former lead singers?

Pretty sure they kicked Perry out too, you talkin about him too?

Good god man.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:17 pm

squirt1 wrote:Blue Jean Girl- Isn't it fun to speculate? I love it. Now, about what Perry said- What was the context of the ? he was asked so I can gauge his answer?


If you are talking to me, you got my name wrong. :wink:
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:18 pm

Moon Bean- If it happens MONEY & LEGACY and a hope for R'R HOF and generating tons more sales and if it was put on DVD to quote the Beach Boys " God only knows".
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:20 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:You're right, I'm not Steve Perry. That's why I said if I was him. As long as there is a tiny, little itty bitty possibility that he COULD return, and like T-TIME said, this is his only shot at it, and until that final nail is dug into the coffin, then why not cling onto it? It's the only hope a Journey fan has left..


Seriously, putting all these death references... they're not that old.
This very moment is not his only shot at it, there's tomorrow, and the day after, and next year, and the year after.

Speculation is pointless. It'd be nice to see it happen, but the way Frig and Fro operate, it'd be masochistic of Steve to go back.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:22 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Even though Steve Perry stated things like "mark it down that I haven't been in the band since '98.." he IS human. I know if I was S.P, keeping quiet this long would have me foaming at the mouth. How can he just sit there and NOT want to do this gig? Deep down his stomach has to be turning thinking this is the last shot to live here. Life is too short, will it be worth it to not come back just because of your ego? No. That's why he'll be back sooner or later. He's human, he's itching at the jock to have this shot come before it's too late..



Your theory is based upon assuming Perry is miserable. It is possible the man is happy with life and content to live as he damn well pleases. Quit trying to put these guys in the grave. They're not THAT old.


He may be very happy, is it also possible that he felt threatened by JSS's involvement in the band? What if JSS recorded with Journey and it was wildley sucessful like the tour, which I beleive would have been highly likely given what I saw at the show. I think Perry was fine with any replacement of him so long as the replacements had no chance of achieving success on par with his own, I believe JSS has what it takes to bury his legacy which may be a key reason why he would want to return, to ensure his legacy with the band is maintained and that it truly ends with his signature instead of someone elses.

It may also be that everyone involved feels its time to do something now while they are in shape to play rather than regret that they didn't try earlier down the road.

There is only so much time and they are all getting older.
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:24 pm

No, Blue radio girl, I was replying to Blue Jean Girl 76.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:25 pm

squirt1 wrote:No, Blue radio girl, I was replying to Blue Jean Girl 76.


Okay, I was making sure b/c I used quotes too... :wink:
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Postby T-TIME » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:25 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:
T-TIME wrote:while your listening to alllll those wonderful songs that won't be sang by every lead they kicked out in the meantime.


What in the wide world of sports are you even talking about dude?
Seriously, WTF does that even mean?

That I'll sit around listening to imaginary songs from JSS?
That I'll sit around not listening to Journey songs being sang by former lead singers?

Pretty sure they kicked Perry out too, you talkin about him too?

Good god man.

there will be no songs is my point. they didn't want him out. there was no choice. they was nominated for a grammy, he got injured, the express was in full tilt
and wanted to continue when he was burnt out. again. i don't want to squabble with you. we're both fans. of course it was a shame jss got shit on. he didn't sound like sp but had a enormous stage presence and delivered the goods with passion and it worked. i just want to stay + for the future and you being a fan should want the same. it sucks to get excited about a fine talent like jss then get shit on but what are we going to do? they don't give a shit what we say. journey has been a huge part of my life since 84 and will always be. always. next to my children, journey is huge part of my day. ring tones,cd's, tattoos, dvd's, forums, web sites etc....... looking forward to 08. thats all that matters
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:30 pm

squirt1 wrote:Blue Jean Girl- Isn't it fun to speculate? I love it. Now, about what Perry said- What was the context of the ? he was asked so I can gauge his answer?


Gauge? What part of "I don't have jack shit to do with Journey anymore" wasn't clear?
He was being asked about DSB, he was talking about writing it and then he told them to print that he hasn't been with Journey for 10 years. And just why would he tell them to print that and just why does he mention it in damn near every interview? So people will get it through their heads that he's not in Journey anymore and isn't coming back. Shame that 10 years later the man still has to explain this every time he turns around. :roll:
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:31 pm

T-TIME wrote:there will be no songs is my point. they didn't want him out. there was no choice. they was nominated for a grammy, he got injured, the express was in full tilt
and wanted to continue when he was burnt out. again. i don't want to squabble with you. we're both fans. of course it was a shame jss got shit on. he didn't sound like sp but had a enormous stage presence and delivered the goods with passion and it worked. i just want to stay + for the future and you being a fan should want the same. it sucks to get excited about a fine talent like jss then get shit on but what are we going to do? they don't give a shit what we say. journey has been a huge part of my life since 84 and will always be. always. next to my children, journey is huge part of my day. ring tones,cd's, tattoos, dvd's, forums, web sites etc....... looking forward to 08. thats all that matters



I wasn't trying to squabble with you, t-time... Perry is the reason I know Journey. I'll admit it.
But I work in the music industry... I see things, the aesthetics and cutthroat nature. Its sick, it happens. But the way all this went down, I assure you is not the norm. You see that obviously.
I'm pissed, and I feel for Jeff who has to sit here and read speculation that he lost his job b/c Perry decided he's getting old and needs one last shot of glory... the buzz... coincidences, not conspiracy theories.

If you want Perry, go buy the Guff CD.
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Postby T-TIME » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:38 pm

Blue Radio Girl wrote:
T-TIME wrote:there will be no songs is my point. they didn't want him out. there was no choice. they was nominated for a grammy, he got injured, the express was in full tilt
and wanted to continue when he was burnt out. again. i don't want to squabble with you. we're both fans. of course it was a shame jss got shit on. he didn't sound like sp but had a enormous stage presence and delivered the goods with passion and it worked. i just want to stay + for the future and you being a fan should want the same. it sucks to get excited about a fine talent like jss then get shit on but what are we going to do? they don't give a shit what we say. journey has been a huge part of my life since 84 and will always be. always. next to my children, journey is huge part of my day. ring tones,cd's, tattoos, dvd's, forums, web sites etc....... looking forward to 08. thats all that matters



I wasn't trying to squabble with you, t-time... Perry is the reason I know Journey. I'll admit it.
But I work in the music industry... I see things, the aesthetics and cutthroat nature. Its sick, it happens. But the way all this went down, I assure you is not the norm. You see that obviously.
I'm pissed, and I feel for Jeff who has to sit here and read speculation that he lost his job b/c Perry decided he's getting old and needs one last shot of glory... the buzz... coincidences, not conspiracy theories.

i completely understand where you are coming from. if your in the business than you probably do know all the unspoken stabs that aren't reported. it maybe wishful thinking (probably) but you have to admit, this is a perfect scenario for it to happen. i just feel like someone talking about my child when i hear this feedback. i just want to scream "no, no, it will be fine. stick around. stay, stay" thats how passionate about this band i am. as well as about 10,000 other poster on here. i'm feeling your pain. lets stay +. sorry
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:43 pm

Nothing like a little conflict/resolution. :wink:

Perfect scenario... I wouldn't put it that way. More like "Seemingly Opportunistic". :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:43 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:
You see, Perry misses Journey and the experience.



Ladies and Gents, check it out. ^ Steve Perry himself is posting here. :shock:

How exactly would you know what SP thinks or feels or what he misses? :roll:
He may occasionally miss the old times - who the hell doesn't miss things about their life that have passed.
That doesn't mean he's about to come running back to it, esp. with the actions of his former mates lately.
As recently as last week he was telling reporters to print his UNinvolvement. That sounds like someone who wants it back?

I hope they re-open BT soon.
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