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Postby LucyFurr » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:46 pm

cyndy! wrote:no.
I think after reading that LONG post up there.........I'd have to agree with Cyndy! Um. She should know.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:47 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mrmusicman73 wrote:
You see, Perry misses Journey and the experience.



Ladies and Gents, check it out. ^ Steve Perry himself is posting here. :shock:

How exactly would you know what SP thinks or feels or what he misses? :roll:
He may occasionally miss the old times - who the hell doesn't miss things about their life that have passed.
That doesn't mean he's about to come running back to it, esp. with the actions of his former mates lately.
As recently as last week he was telling reporters to print his UNinvolvement. That sounds like someone who wants it back?

I hope they re-open BT soon.


Your assumptions are just as good as ours, BJG, Just on the other side of the stick. :wink:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:50 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Your assumptions are just as good as ours, BJG, Just on the other side of the stick. :wink:


Except that mine aren't assumptions. I'm going by what came out of Steve's mouth, not out of my own head.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:51 pm

OT-- but has anyone ever gone to the site, "All things Steve Perry.."? I usualy check in there as much as I can, but it is down...

hmmm, a pretty reliable Steve Perry Site down the same time the official Journey site is down.

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Postby slucero » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:54 pm

Go Here: http://www.journeyforums.com/12-crazy-s ... rt,15.html

AlienC used to work for the band.... pretty much sums it up.

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:54 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:OT-- but has anyone ever gone to the site, "All things Steve Perry.."? I usualy check in there as much as I can, but it is down...

hmmm, a pretty reliable Steve Perry Site down the same time the official Journey site is down.

Cowinky Dink? 8)


YES IT'S A COINCIDENCE.

I can tell you EXACTLY why that site is down and it has NOTHING to do with this.
The webmaster over-wrote his style sheet for the main part of the site and is currently rebuilding it.
The forum part is still open and operating correctly.
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Postby LucyFurr » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:54 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:OT-- but has anyone ever gone to the site, "All things Steve Perry.."? I usualy check in there as much as I can, but it is down...

hmmm, a pretty reliable Steve Perry Site down the same time the official Journey site is down.

Cowinky Dink? 8)
It isn't down. There is a special key, phrase, then keystroke sequence you have to do at the same time while chanting "Perry is god, Perry is god". Your just not doing it right!
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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby BrittaElle » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:55 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:4. Sometime in 2008 you will see a new Journey record with Steve Perry, tour summer of 2008 or 2009 (get tickets early as we all know how these things can go)



Well, that'll be the day, when you say goodbye.....
Yes, that'll be the day, when you make me cry.....


....that'll be the day, when I die! :D 8)
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Postby froy » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:36 pm

whocares wrote:Froy, Perry ain't coming back, neither is DDY to Styx. At this point, they're BOTH above the bands they were once part of.



We want to sound like our records
Thats either Rollie Perry or augeri
Pick one.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:42 pm

froy wrote:
whocares wrote:Froy, Perry ain't coming back, neither is DDY to Styx. At this point, they're BOTH above the bands they were once part of.



We want to sound like our records
Thats either Rollie Perry or augeri
Pick one.


Froy, you're not as stupid as this post lets on. Notice that Friga said "like" our records. He didn't say he wanted the classic lineup back together. He didn't say he wanted ANY previous lineup together, just to sound like the catalogue. A tribute singer can get that job done quite easily, unfortunately.
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Postby JrnyBratt » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:45 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:OT-- but has anyone ever gone to the site, "All things Steve Perry.."? I usualy check in there as much as I can, but it is down...

hmmm, a pretty reliable Steve Perry Site down the same time the official Journey site is down.

Cowinky Dink? 8)



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Re: Journey Featuring Steve Perry

Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:00 pm

Rick wrote:
StringsOfJoy wrote:Maybe the DVDs and remasters were cathartic. Ockham's Razor, you know...


Why you making people look shit up? :twisted:


Ockham's Razor: The idea that, in trying to understand something, getting unnecessary information out of the way is the fastest way to the truth or to the best explanation.

Or, as it was said by Jodie Foster in "Contact": "All things being equal, the simplest solution/explanation tends to be the best one"

Um....? :?
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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:21 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:For those who don't believe Steve Perry is returning, don't you find it extremely odd that the JSS announcement was timed on the SAME day as the Sopranos esposure news release?

If they knew prior to May 12th that JSS was going to be out, they surely would have made an announcement PRIOR to the Sopranos thing. But what really happened in my estimation is that the Sopranos thing became the catalyst for Perry to re-unite with the band.


...or the fact that Steve is on a Guff CD, which is coming out ~ oh yeah ~ June 26th.

OR the fact that it's all over the place that Steve is writing with Nuno Bettencourt.

See, there IS life after Journey.

"Since May 98....Since May 98....Since May 98....". Why do you think he keeps driving that point HOME??
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:03 am

tragchk wrote:it's all over the place that Steve is writing with Nuno Bettencourt.

See, there IS life after Journey.



MMMmmmmm...1 word for this bit of hype: ShowMeTheVocalsBaby.

I get jaundiced when I only hear "writing."
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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:05 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
tragchk wrote:it's all over the place that Steve is writing with Nuno Bettencourt.

See, there IS life after Journey.



MMMmmmmm...1 word for this bit of hype: ShowMeTheVocalsBaby.

I get jaundiced when I only hear "writing."


:lol: Yeah well, me too....I understand what you're saying... 8)

BUT ~ He IS doing things (backing vox / writing) outside of Journey ~ that's what I was trying to say....he's done w/ them.
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Postby jrnysc » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:44 am

Think about the Eagles. That is as far as I have to go right there. I love that band as well, and NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS ANY WAY they would take stage together again. Go back and read some of the stuff THEY said about each other. Talk about egoes. I am a true firm believer that ANYTHING is possible. They may certainly hire Jeremey and go on with their nostalgic business, but I'm simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible. Oh yeah, who was behind that Eagles reunion again? And from what I understand, they have yet another album coming out. There is so much going on right now with Journey. Any in particular wouldn't mean much of anything to mean, but put it all together and one would almost HAVE to believe something large is brewing, or strange at least. Either that or as we have all predicted, they are done. When you have other musicians in the business calling you Fro and Friga, how could you even take stage again?
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:00 am

jrnysc wrote:Think about the Eagles. That is as far as I have to go right there. I love that band as well, and NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS ANY WAY they would take stage together again. Go back and read some of the stuff THEY said about each other. Talk about egoes. I am a true firm believer that ANYTHING is possible. They may certainly hire Jeremey and go on with their nostalgic business, but I'm simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible. Oh yeah, who was behind that Eagles reunion again? And from what I understand, they have yet another album coming out. There is so much going on right now with Journey. Any in particular wouldn't mean much of anything to mean, but put it all together and one would almost HAVE to believe something large is brewing. Either that or as we have all predicted, they are done. When you have other musicians in the business calling you Fro and Friga, how could you even take stage again?


Look at Sammy Hagar and Van Halen, they played again after having a long public battle. Sammy Hagar employs the same management team and credits Azoff with getting them together again. While it didn't last, at least it was one tour and a couple of new songs.

Also look at the Police who could barely get through a private event without fighting, now they are going on tour.

It CAN happen and I believe it WILL happen.
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Postby jrnysc » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:10 am

Once again, I don't flame people here, and I'm not looking to get it either. I DO NOT expect it to happen. I am simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible.
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Postby amaron » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:12 am

This pretty sums up Journey to me:


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Postby Todd H » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:13 am

I just don't see this happening.

My bet is Journey hires another sound-alike and continues playing the nostalgia card. They then ride into obscurity.
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Postby SteveForever » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:20 am

Todd H wrote:I just don't see this happening.

My bet is Journey hires another sound-alike and continues playing the nostalgia card. They then ride into obscurity.


What if.....they hire someone not to record with, but to practice with. They would need someone that knew the songs, had the vibe, but was somewhat "disposable." If there were to be a reunion possibility they would first have to prove themselves as really wanting it to happen.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:22 am

jrnysc wrote:Once again, I don't flame people here, and I'm not looking to get it either. I DO NOT expect it to happen. I am simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible.


Nobody expects it will happen, that EXACTLY why it will happen and also the reason why it will be successful. Perhaps the Walk of Fame event planted the seed and the Sopranos event fertilized that seed so it can grow.

I also don't think that Neal and Jon came to Steve Perry, I'll bet it is the other way around. Perry doesn't want to be overshadowed by a continued success with JSS. He doesn't want to RISK his legacy in Journey's music by someone who might have a shot at out doing him commercially. I think it is a combination of all these things that offer him motivation to step back up to the plate.

We will all see what happens in time, but my bet is on this scenerio.
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Postby X factor » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:07 am

jrnysc wrote:Think about the Eagles. That is as far as I have to go right there. I love that band as well, and NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS ANY WAY they would take stage together again. Go back and read some of the stuff THEY said about each other. Talk about egoes. I am a true firm believer that ANYTHING is possible. They may certainly hire Jeremey and go on with their nostalgic business, but I'm simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible. Oh yeah, who was behind that Eagles reunion again? And from what I understand, they have yet another album coming out. There is so much going on right now with Journey. Any in particular wouldn't mean much of anything to mean, but put it all together and one would almost HAVE to believe something large is brewing, or strange at least. Either that or as we have all predicted, they are done. When you have other musicians in the business calling you Fro and Friga, how could you even take stage again?


Excellent point. I've said from day one that I think a tour w/ Perry is the endgame here.
Listen guys, I think we have to step back and look at a few things. First, as the above post mentions, far bigger feuds than Journey's have blown over and culminated in reunions.The Eagles is one example. KISS is another. The mud those guys slung at each other was massive, but they managed to come back for a number of succesful tours (and will again before it's all over). The ongoing Van HALEN saga is another example of a MUCH stronger feud that has (time and again) resulted in one guy coming back into the fold, at least for a limited amount of time. Hell, ya'll...ROGER FUCKIN WATERS and DAVID GILMOUR played on the same stage (albeit only once- but mark it down, those guys will do it again) at LIVE 8. If THOSE bastards can bury the hatchett (at least temporarily) ANYONE CAN! To think that the Journey feud is somehow bigger in scope than those listed above is a tad myopic, to say the least.
And for those who say "It's not about the monry! They don't need the MONEY!!!" I say, BULLSHIT! Listen, it's ALWAYS about the money! None of these guys are so flush with cash that they couldn't do with the HUGE revenue that this tour would generate. And that's not even to mention the glory involved with such a reunion. SP would be seen a a frickin hero if he went back out on the road for one more trip down memory lane.
The ONLY thing I'll accept as to why it won't happen is if Perry can't physically sing the songs anymore, and sorry, I have seen, nor heard NO EVIDENCE of this, other than some wild speculation on these boards.
To quote the Xfiles, the truth is out there, folks, and only a select few know what's really going on. The rest of us will have to blindly flail around in the dark until such time as the powers that be feel benevolant enough to let us in...that is if anybody really gives a shit anymore.
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:46 am

X factor wrote:
jrnysc wrote:Think about the Eagles. That is as far as I have to go right there. I love that band as well, and NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS ANY WAY they would take stage together again. Go back and read some of the stuff THEY said about each other. Talk about egoes. I am a true firm believer that ANYTHING is possible. They may certainly hire Jeremey and go on with their nostalgic business, but I'm simply pointing out ANYTHING is possible. Oh yeah, who was behind that Eagles reunion again? And from what I understand, they have yet another album coming out. There is so much going on right now with Journey. Any in particular wouldn't mean much of anything to mean, but put it all together and one would almost HAVE to believe something large is brewing, or strange at least. Either that or as we have all predicted, they are done. When you have other musicians in the business calling you Fro and Friga, how could you even take stage again?


Excellent point. I've said from day one that I think a tour w/ Perry is the endgame here.
Listen guys, I think we have to step back and look at a few things. First, as the above post mentions, far bigger feuds than Journey's have blown over and culminated in reunions.The Eagles is one example. KISS is another. The mud those guys slung at each other was massive, but they managed to come back for a number of succesful tours (and will again before it's all over). The ongoing Van HALEN saga is another example of a MUCH stronger feud that has (time and again) resulted in one guy coming back into the fold, at least for a limited amount of time. Hell, ya'll...ROGER FUCKIN WATERS and DAVID GILMOUR played on the same stage (albeit only once- but mark it down, those guys will do it again) at LIVE 8. If THOSE bastards can bury the hatchett (at least temporarily) ANYONE CAN! To think that the Journey feud is somehow bigger in scope than those listed above is a tad myopic, to say the least.
And for those who say "It's not about the monry! They don't need the MONEY!!!" I say, BULLSHIT! Listen, it's ALWAYS about the money! None of these guys are so flush with cash that they couldn't do with the HUGE revenue that this tour would generate. And that's not even to mention the glory involved with such a reunion. SP would be seen a a frickin hero if he went back out on the road for one more trip down memory lane.
The ONLY thing I'll accept as to why it won't happen is if Perry can't physically sing the songs anymore, and sorry, I have seen, nor heard NO EVIDENCE of this, other than some wild speculation on these boards.
To quote the Xfiles, the truth is out there, folks, and only a select few know what's really going on. The rest of us will have to blindly flail around in the dark until such time as the powers that be feel benevolant enough to let us in...that is if anybody really gives a shit anymore.


Another thing that I have seen this time around that is interesting is that over the weekend, "Journey without a lead singer stories" were all over the radio. I don't recall them ever being mentioned much on the radio when JSS or Augerie began. This leads me to further believe that there is something much bigger going on...
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:51 am

Interesting point.
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Postby bionic » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:23 am

SteveForever wrote:
Todd H wrote:I just don't see this happening.

My bet is Journey hires another sound-alike and continues playing the nostalgia card. They then ride into obscurity.


What if.....they hire someone not to record with, but to practice with. They would need someone that knew the songs, had the vibe, but was somewhat "disposable." If there were to be a reunion possibility they would first have to prove themselves as really wanting it to happen.


Good theory :) Though i feel Perry will make his self known as a solo player.Must admit when i first heard Soto was out i did wonder,but i doubt he will be back in Journey,though i pray i am proven wrong :wink:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:31 am

tragchk wrote:
"Since May 98....Since May 98....Since May 98....". Why do you think he keeps driving that point HOME??



Exactly. Why spend 10 years literally pointing out the very date you became free of the band if you weren't dead serious about wanting people to know you are NOT involved. It was May 8th. Why do I know that? Because he's said it like 400 times! He said it TWICE in the last Q&A thing, and one of them was after a question about death, and it was totally out of context. He throws it in at every chance because he's probable sick of being asked when he's going back to Journey...

44) "So many bands are reuniting and touring. Do you ever see yourself reuniting with Journey and doing a tour?"

SP: "Since May 8, 1998 we have been officially and legally no longer together. I'm fairly convinced we've gone our separate ways. I also know that nothing will ever take away the magic times and the music we made...... while we were together!"
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Postby mrmusicman73 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:39 am

bionic wrote:
SteveForever wrote:
Todd H wrote:I just don't see this happening.

My bet is Journey hires another sound-alike and continues playing the nostalgia card. They then ride into obscurity.


What if.....they hire someone not to record with, but to practice with. They would need someone that knew the songs, had the vibe, but was somewhat "disposable." If there were to be a reunion possibility they would first have to prove themselves as really wanting it to happen.


Good theory :) Though i feel Perry will make his self known as a solo player.Must admit when i first heard Soto was out i did wonder,but i doubt he will be back in Journey,though i pray i am proven wrong :wink:
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Based on his solo work from the 90's I don't think that would be good for him. Another thing to consider is that if he wanted to get back out in the lime light again, getting back with Journey makes the most sense. If this did not happen, then there would be a good possibility that you would have Journey with JSS and Steve Perry on two different tours playing the same songs. This would not benefit either camp, another reason why they will re-uniting.
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Postby chad » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:22 am

All this talk about Perry kind of kicks it up a notch for me. How I wish this guy would come back...some way, some how.

All your scenarios got me thinking....if you think about Perry himself, he seems like the kind of guy who thinks about all possible strategies, plays each one over and over in his head, then once he makes up his mind....he shoots the arrow from point A to B and never looks back.

With that in mind, if he is writing, rehearsing, etc...to see how it all feels, I wonder what his plan is. For some reason I'm envisioning him thinking a bit outside the box. I don't think he'd do a Journey-type CD....I see him doing something more abound...like possibly a Motown vibe...or a Sam Cooke tribute....or a colaboration with other contemporary big-name vocalists.

Which then had me wondering, would he ever even consider singing with Journey again? I honestly don't know. I think what he accomplished together with Journey was extremely special, and he may not want to tarnish what was.

Also, I don't believe money is the key motivator for Perry.....for him, I think it all has to do primarily with how he feels about his voice. For me, I'd pay big bucks to hear him one more time, even if he sang 89 octaves lower...but Perry himself has his own personal bar set. I think this is the determining factor if he ever did record again. I'm sure he misses playing to the crowds....it's an energy rush any performer keeps with them for life. But in my opinion, Perry needs to personally feel exceedingly comfortable with his voice and the product.

And that is part of why I respect him so much.

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Postby Henley » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:22 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
tragchk wrote:
"Since May 98....Since May 98....Since May 98....". Why do you think he keeps driving that point HOME??



Exactly. Why spend 10 years literally pointing out the very date you became free of the band if you weren't dead serious about wanting people to know you are NOT involved. It was May 8th. Why do I know that? Because he's said it like 400 times! He said it TWICE in the last Q&A thing, and one of them was after a question about death, and it was totally out of context. He throws it in at every chance because he's probable sick of being asked when he's going back to Journey...

44) "So many bands are reuniting and touring. Do you ever see yourself reuniting with Journey and doing a tour?"

SP: "Since May 8, 1998 we have been officially and legally no longer together. I'm fairly convinced we've gone our separate ways. I also know that nothing will ever take away the magic times and the music we made...... while we were together!"


"Fairly" has always been a fascinating choice of word to me, whether he said it consciously or sub-consciously. When someone is stone definite about something that's not an emphatic declaration.
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