Character, integrity, ethics - lessons for Journey

[AR]

Characteristics of a quality organization.

Basic Integrity – defined by honesty, authenticity, and truth telling – is the foundation for an ethical organization

An organization high in respect treats everyone, employees and customers alike, as valued members of the organization community

Willing to learn from other organizations, open to change and the need to change, not too proud to look inward.

The norms of the organization support constructive conflict and openness, but don’t support explosiveness and hostility.

Accountable organizations get results, keep promises to customers, and stay focused on goals.

In organizations high in this quality, departments don’t blame each other and take responsibility when things go wrong.

Organizations with courage own up to mistakes, make reparations quickly, take risks, and try new things readily.

An organization that promotes a focus on the whole shares information widely and helps everyone understand how they work together to make the whole successful

You guys have none of these qualities.

[Lula]

You guys have none of these qualities.

Sadly you are right.

[dcvader]

You think they will learn anything at this point? Highly doubtful.

Horrible outfit these guy's are. Total shit.

[Saint John]

Looking back, I'd say that the "Journey Corporation" was successful because of these alotted percentages per member based on importance. Steve Perry 60% Neal Schon 20% Jon Friga 10% Steve Smith 8% Ross Valory 2% That dude with 60% sure has been impossible to replace, huh guys?

[slucero]

I'd say it was successful cause Herbie ran it, and none of the 5 band members had total control... unless it was given to him.

[SteveForever]

Looking back, I'd say that the "Journey Corporation" was successful because of these alotted percentages per member based on importance. Steve Perry 60% Neal Schon 20% Jon Friga 10% Steve Smith 8% Ross Valory 2% That dude with 60% sure has been impossible to replace, huh guys?

yep and everything on this planet needs REST to work, Perry gave his all and he needed years to recover from it yet they wouldn't let him.
They had their own stuff to work on, why couldn't they just leave Journey alone? I think this band needed an intervention a long time ago.

[belar]

You think they will learn anything at this point? Highly doubtful.

Horrible outfit these guy's are. Total shit.

Maybe if they were an up and coming band it would matter. However, since they've been on the downslope for a number of years, they don't give a rat's ass.

[Cate]

I'd say it was successful cause Herbie ran it, and none of the 5 band members had total control... unless it was given to him.

NO and NO ......

[ohsherrie]

Looking back, I'd say that the "Journey Corporation" was successful because of these alotted percentages per member based on importance. Steve Perry 60% Neal Schon 20% Jon Friga 10% Steve Smith 8% Ross Valory 2% That dude with 60% sure has been impossible to replace, huh guys?

Abso-fuckin'-lutely Dan. They've been F&F acting like Laurel & Hardy ever since they railroaded Steve Perry out.

Jeff was their last, best hope but they were so afraid of having another superstar frontman that they shoved him in front of the damned train and let the cow catcher run him out of town on a rail.

[AlienC]

I'd say it was successful cause Herbie ran it, and none of the 5 band members had total control... unless it was given to him.

NO and NO ......

Sorry, but despite the innuendo about Herbie, it is true.
More people became millionaires under his watch than any other. Legitimately, too. The T-shirt artists made commissions and became property owners in San Diego. The lighting company was spun off and then sold off for a huge profit and those technicians went along for that ride as well.
Nothing like that has happened with this bunch of greedy bean counters.
His reunion tour was the real deal, incorporating Rollie as well, and was the basis for the offers that came in when it was learned that SP was back in the fold for TBF.
His main clients, had they kept to his LONG TERM business plan (something no one from the current organization has any idea about), there would be a revenue stream, no, revenue RIVER that would make performing a luxury to be chosen, rather than a job to be done.
Herbie's persona de guerre' may not suit some people, but he was as tenacious as he needed to be, as gracious as could be, and despite chewing me out on more than one occasion, someone I take great pride in having been schooled by, having had his confidence to work beside and to call him a friend.
Despite my respect (fear) for Azoff , his lap dogs never engendered that sort of dedication in me or anyone else in the crew, so far as I know.

Well, except for maybe Rocko and JT, I guess. but then I wouldn't model any of my life after those two , either.

[piecesofeight]

Been doing a bunch of thinking. Being a huge JSS fan and Jeff being such a class dude all around and a great talent, is also why it makes me pissed off. The guy has it all. He can sing anything, he's great on stage, fans love him/he loves the fans, and again-he's just a good dude. STUPID is one work that kept going through my head today. Then of course, pricks for how they did it.
Would it have matter as much how they did this if it wasn't someone like Jeff? What if the person they had choses wasn't as good as Jeff on stage or not as good with the fans.
Just think how we are all walking around scratching our heads thinking how much sense this doesn't make, then think about what Jeff must be going through.
Is a big part of it because it happened to Jeff.
I think if Steve P. came back for anything, there might be suppport to support him, yet it does also support all involved. This would still obviously do very well because the general population doesn't frequent these sort of boards.
It has brought up a lot of feelings for me going back to when Styx screwed Dennis over and moved on without him.
I bet Jeff never imagined that he'd be living out anything like 'Rockstar'
Why would any singer want to get involved with this band at this point, even those who think they'd be living out a dream. I bet they'd be back here at some point after explaining the shit they put them through.
Who ever thought we'd be rooting for someone who wasn't in the band as long as those we never would have imagined we'd be this ticked at.