Saint John wrote:Wheels Of Fyre wrote:Liam wrote:Matthew wrote:Liam wrote:That's what I HATE about celebs. They ARE considered "Heroes". Like Geddy Lee said.."Look..we're musicians...it's not that noble a pursuit". And that's true. The REAL Heroes are the people like Chief and Haak mentioned. Celebs are SHIT. All these people keeping democracy together, saving lives, etc etc ARE THE REAL HEROES.
Can't we maybe agree that there's a heirachy of heroes? You know...soldiers and firefighters at the top of the list...then Steve Perry...then maybe a charity woerker or something?
I won't deny that I hold some people in the music business in higher reguard than others...but HERO just ain't the word I like to use when you're dealing with someone who's, let's say, a GREAT Guitarist..but a shitty human being.
THAT is the point! It's the guitar WORK that's to be admired. Guitar hero.
Ultimately, my wife is a bigger hero than anyone on this board. I watched her give birth 3 times. In my estimation GIVING LIFE is just as noble as anyone saving another's.
I knew you'd go there. Your wife giving birth 3 times in NO way makes her a hero. Nurturing, caring for, educating, guiding and loving those children will make her a MOTHER. The Mexicans pouring over our borders having 5, 6 and 7 kids that drop out of school, sell drugs and join gangs is disgusting. These breeders, perpetuating poverty as a lifestyle are NOT heroes. They're borderline criminals. It doesn't take a whole lot of common sense to realize that if Pepe is cutting grass for a living making $6.50 an hour that Rosalita should keep her fucking legs closed or use birth control. But do the majority of them think of that? Fuck no. Americans that DO speak the language and get decent jobs will pay for Little Pepe's healthcare, so when he's throwing gang signs and gets shot, he'll get treated at the hospital. Fuckin' disgusting.
More shock value? Just how much alcohol have you consumed? What is your obsession with Mexicans? I think you secretly have a crush on a cute little senorita and just can't bring yourself to admitting it.
BTW my wife's COLOMBIAN - and LEGAL. And my point was that GIVING LIFE is just as noble as saving one. Obviously this is much too deep of a thought for this board!
Another BTW the police and immigration were going on little raids last Saturday. They entered a friend's home who was housing her 2 illegal brothers from Mexico (and why not - she's illegal, too!). Anyway, they permitted the police to enter their home which they were NOT obligated to do since the police HAD NO WARRANT - of course, the police know this but they know if they're sufficiently imposing then people will comply through fear. They said they were looking for some "bad" person. Right. Then they asked her brothers if their documents were legal. Out of fear they honestly answered, "No." They're now in Kentucky being processed to be shipped back to Mexico. Our friend was asked about her documents and she wisely LIED and said they were NOT false. Why not lie? She was being illegally questioned! Of course, the police will say she invited them in therefore the question wasn't illegal. Nice way to twist theings! Anyway, I thought you'd like that story. It's nice to know our HEROES are out there using fear in order to trick people. I suppose you'll say that that's OK since they're only tricking criminals.
Interesting how people just assign the label "hero" to ALL policemen when clearly they are capable of anything but. A policeman here recently killed his pregnant wife! I knew another that ran a modeling agency that he used to lure young girls for his sick pleasure.
Ultimately, it's a QUALITY that makes one a hero. It's not the uniform one wears or the position one holds. Sometimes we're heroes and we don't even know it. A guy recently told me in the men's room at work that he had taken a bad turn in life and "slipped" (I think something to do with substance abuse) but thanks to me he's now back on track. He mentioned that he was sure that I had no idea what I'd done to help him. And he was right. I have no idea. He was embarassed and wouldn't talk about it any further. I was stunned. Somehow in some way I was his hero for what he needed at some moment in his life. That's fine by me. I don't feel any different. I'm glad I could help.
I think that's why we're here. To help and serve each other. I don't think you need a badge or uniform in order to do that.
I was just trying to to be a dumb ass and act like talent only has the meaning of money and weight. Wanted to make a point about those who insist only the part of the hero definition that they heard of is correct.
