I DON'T THINK JSS BELONGED IN JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE....

[Món]

Now that Jeff parted ways with them, I hope the best for him and his new projects, 'cause the guy sure deserves it.

Granted. The guy's an EXCELLENT frontman.

He has voice and energy to spare.

I've heard that he's te kindest soul around, too.

My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

Journey is not Soul Sirkus, although Neal has tried to turn it onto a proto-metal entity (just listen to Generations). Unsuccessfully, thank God.

Perhaps this is why he was let go in the first place. In a truly shitty, class-less fashion, that is.

Any thoughts?

[Rick]

Now that Jeff parted ways with them, I hope the best for him and his new projects, 'cause the guy sure deserves it.

Granted. The guy's an EXCELLENT frontman.

He has voice and energy to spare.

I've heard that he's te kindest soul around, too.

My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

Journey is not Soul Sirkus, although Neal has tried to turn it onto a proto-metal entity (just listen to Generations). Unsuccessfully, thank God.

Perhaps this is why he was let go in the first place. In a truly shitty, class-less fashion, that is.

Any thoughts?

I agree with everything except that he didn't fit. I so much enjoyed him in Journey. I thought he did a fantastic job. He gave that band something they hadn't seen in ages, energy. A great singer, a great crowd pleaser, and a great human being. I can't think of anyone else I would rather have except Perry. My third choice is Hunsicker.

[ArnelRox]

Now that Jeff parted ways with them, I hope the best for him and his new projects, 'cause the guy sure deserves it.

Granted. The guy's an EXCELLENT frontman.

He has voice and energy to spare.

I've heard that he's te kindest soul around, too.

My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

Journey is not Soul Sirkus, although Neal has tried to turn it onto a proto-metal entity (just listen to Generations). Unsuccessfully, thank God.

Perhaps this is why he was let go in the first place. In a truly shitty, class-less fashion, that is.

Any thoughts?

Just one, please return to the asylum. Generations, metal????

[Món]

PROTO-metal. Can't you read?

Wait.... Nevermind.

Are you going to follow me around like a sick puppy?

[Crazie Scarab]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

[Món]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

[treetopovskaya]

what does looks have to do with someones ability to sing???

*yawn*

(jss is a-d-o-r-a-b-l-e btw) };C)

[squirt1]

Jeff was the only chance they had since Perry left. But clear thinking will never be associated with Journey since Perry left. I think that is because they don't plan or think past today and that they react instead of act. They live in the minute. It is just astounding for their age.

[Crazie Scarab]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

At least you have a sense of humor! I'll give you that much.

Jeff would have ROCKED Journey! Instead, Journey crawled back under a rock.

[Món]

what does looks have to do with someones ability to sing???

*yawn*

(jss is a-d-o-r-a-b-l-e btw) };C)

I didn't say he looked BAD. I said he didn't look RIGHT.

Something about his style that didn't fit the whole Journey image.

I've seen videos of him fronting his solo band and Talisman, and that's a whole different story, of course.

[Soto All The Way]

Now that Jeff parted ways with them, I hope the best for him and his new projects, 'cause the guy sure deserves it.

Granted. The guy's an EXCELLENT frontman.

He has voice and energy to spare.

I've heard that he's te kindest soul around, too.

My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

Journey is not Soul Sirkus, although Neal has tried to turn it onto a proto-metal entity (just listen to Generations). Unsuccessfully, thank God.

Perhaps this is why he was let go in the first place. In a truly shitty, class-less fashion, that is.

Any thoughts?

Would someone please fucking open up Back Talk so all these spandex wearing, four can a week hair spray fucking idiots have a place to post stupid comments like "Jeff didn't fit" or he didn't "Look Right".....

Jesus Christ, Up the fucking prozac and Haldol.....It's get better.

e-

[Andrew]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

[Andrew]

Would someone please fucking open up Back Talk so all these spandex wearing, four can a week hair spray fucking idiots have a place to post stupid comments like "Jeff didn't fit" or he didn't "Look Right".....

:

Amen.
Sadly they don't want to deal with anything, meaning I have to deal with everything.

[squirt1]

Soto ATW - I was thinking that 2 days ago,but they really only take silliness to new levels. Jeff was Journey's best/only chance to move beyond Perry. IMO Journey is the true "Band on the Run "and BT could not be referreed in our lifetime. How I would love to see it though, as sort of a spectator sport.

[Món]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

[Andrew]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

In the eyes of some, this band HAS died.

Now show a little respect here please. You are NEW here. You should take a look around and see what's what....opinions are MORE than wlecome, hell, everyone here as at least 10.
Just consider the way you put your opinions forwards...as should EVERYONE.

[Crazie Scarab]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

Are you saying I'm now gay and impolite?

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

[Socratic Methodist]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

Are you saying I'm now gay and impolite?

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

[Rick]

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

I'm pretty sure you weren't this raucous at BT either. You've stirred up more shit here today than they would allow in a year over there.

[Moon Beam]

I'm gonna explain it nice, sweetly and slow-like for ya Mon.


You and some others come in here like a west Texas wind.
You claim that you don't wanna stir the pot or play mud sling
with us, yet you continue to in almost every post.
Andrew has been more than patient with ALL the new comers that
have tried repeatedly to add fuel to the fan fires.

Relax, go grab your sense of humor out of the closet and get some belly shakes on.
Most of us have been slammed at one time or another, either here
or elsewhere in cyberspace.
Hope you can enjoy something around here and if not then maybe
you can somewhere else.

[Món]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

Are you saying I'm now gay and impolite?

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

I don't.

I just expect him to react accordingly, that's all.

[STORY_TELLER]

[b]My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

I'm gonna get flamed for this just as much as you did, but I happen to agree with you. I think JSS sang the GH album very well. He's got a great voice, far better that Augeri's, and I never needed a vocalist to be a Perry sound a like to enjoy the melodies and soaring feeling from the songs in their catalogue. The singer just needs to have sophisticated chords capable of doing the songs justice (John West comes to mind, he could have pulled it off very well).

My thoughts were and always will be about new material.

I'm not the kind of fan who's satisfied with going to see a greatest hits tour year after year. I want new material from my favorite musicians. I want 'the Journey' to continue.

With that in mind, I never thought Neal and JSS had chemistry. Both are accomplished and talented musicians, but they mix musically like oil and water. JSS simply wasn't the guy. That being said, I think the way Neal and Jon went about this was crappy and hypocritical. If they had any misgivings about JSS as the permanent lead singer of Journey, they shouldn't have offered it to him in the first place.

I wish Jeff all the best and look forward to what he puts out on his own and I hope Neal and Jon find a singer who can originate material worthy of the band's name.

[Crazie Scarab]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

Are you saying I'm now gay and impolite?

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

So, you would prefer me to be fake? Sad.

If you don't like who I really am, well then, I guess I really never meant anything to you. No love lost. All's good. Whoever you are..

[Socratic Methodist]

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

I'm pretty sure you weren't this raucous at BT either. You've stirred up more shit here today than they would allow in a year over there.

Rick, and you would be wrong......I never bowed to the 'wiggler' mentality. I posted my opinons in a NON PC manner.....and some didn't like it. I don't start shit for the sake of starting shit. If I have a dissenting opinion(which is MOST of the time, because I'm not a conformist/kiss ass), I voice it.....I'm by no means an expert on Journey. Just been a fan for a long time. Like all you guys/gals.

i never accepted SA, and people didn't like that over there. Although I did buy Arrival: domestic and import.

My tone pushes people away, I'm sorry. That's me. I'm editorial in my writing. With an edge.

I don't change for anybody.....I'm the same as I was over there......just not as quick to dismiss someone who insults me.

It is the mob mentality that irks me. Its like I've invaded your home.

Anyway, I post the same as i did in BT.....

enjoy the remainder of your evening/day, whichever the case may be....:0

[Socratic Methodist]

Any thoughts?

Yeah. You suck little shit balls out of rabbit's asses!

Really?

BT was REALLY frustrating to you, huh?

Give it a rest please. You are new here - think about what you are posting before you do so and consider the feelings of those that have been here a LONG time.

I'm sorry. I just don't get why the fuck someone's NOT allowed to give a PERSONAL opinion on something.

You guys are acting like someone died.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody with my statements, yet you seem to condone bigotry towards noobs.

It would seem you guys just read the title of the thread and proceed to bash the originator without even reading what he has to say.

On the other hand, this Crazie Scarab guy was all straight and polite over at BT, hence my comment.

WTF?

Are you saying I'm now gay and impolite?

It was a very controlled environment over there and I behaved accordingly. Here, we are more able to be ourselves. Therefore, I am. It's not rocket science.

If this is the true, you.....I much prefer the BT incarnation.......

So, you would prefer me to be fake? Sad.

If you don't like who I really am, well then, I guess I really never meant anything to you. No love lost. All's good. Whoever you are..

Did you see the smiley/laugher?

Never meant anything to me? I had no problem with you over there. I had issues with Double X's....Oh, and Maui Tom. That's it.

In fact, I've been a member of the cooler again since Feb....Misty knows its me, and hasn't a problem with me. I've posted once. In 5 months. I still keep in touch with Steph....

[Red13JoePa]

After the Danny Ainge thread it suddenly became apparent that I need to fine tune my Reardon detector

[Andrew]

Its like I've invaded your home.

Not to jump on something you have said again - but this point should be highlighted - this IS a home. It is a home to a great many like-minded folks and they love hanging out here and I enjoy having folks hang out here. This is my home too.

All I am asking is that new users show a little courtesy and respect in this place, especially to those that have been here a long long time.

[nikki]

Now that Jeff parted ways with them, I hope the best for him and his new projects, 'cause the guy sure deserves it.

Granted. The guy's an EXCELLENT frontman.

He has voice and energy to spare.

I've heard that he's te kindest soul around, too.

My personal thoughts on this are that he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either.

Journey is not Soul Sirkus, although Neal has tried to turn it onto a proto-metal entity (just listen to Generations). Unsuccessfully, thank God.

Perhaps this is why he was let go in the first place. In a truly shitty, class-less fashion, that is.

Any thoughts?

Jeff was just beginning to find his comfort zone when he was unceremoniuosly dumped. This would be a better argument if they had given him the chance to at least do an album and try out some new material and see how reaction to a new album with him might be, but they didn't. How can you 'fit in' anywhere when you aren't even given the chance?? And please explain "he just didn't sound...."right". He didn't look right either."

[Andrew]

After the Danny Ainge thread it suddenly became apparent that I need to fine tune my Reardon detector

Not unless he moved to Mexico. I guess that's possible...he needs to find someone to love him...

[Socratic Methodist]

Its like I've invaded your home.

Not to jump on something you have said again - but this point should be highlighted - this IS a home. It is a home to a great many like-minded folks and they love hanging out here and I enjoy having folks hang out here. This is my home too.

All I am asking is that new users show a little courtesy and respect in this place, especially to those that have been here a long long time.

Andrew, I totally understand that. And I really can't defend that without others adding fuel.

I will say that from day one/my first post - I've been catching shit from people.

Because I asked something that had already been covered.....

I'll tell you this, though....Just an FYI. I have OVER 30,000 posts in another forum I've been on since 2000. And I have NEVER treated a newb like they are treated here.

I understand that I joined at the exact moment the shite went down. Not my fault.

Just think of me as that weird uncle you only see at weddings....