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Postby Red13JoePa » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:24 am

Saint John wrote:Hey fat ass, no one cares what you think. The only advice you should be giving is how to wipe out a buffet. Heat up a knife and carve out that stupid tattoo you have on your ankle too. Lastly, please find out when the pig pen will be reopening so I can lay low in the mean time.


Building more bridges, Dano? :lol:
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Postby wildone » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:43 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Saint John wrote:Hey fat ass, no one cares what you think. The only advice you should be giving is how to wipe out a buffet. Heat up a knife and carve out that stupid tattoo you have on your ankle too. Lastly, please find out when the pig pen will be reopening so I can lay low in the mean time.


Building more bridges, Dano? :lol:
What happend to the love???? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:56 am

That IS St John's brand of love. :D
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Postby Saint John » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:14 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Saint John wrote:Hey fat ass, no one cares what you think. The only advice you should be giving is how to wipe out a buffet. Heat up a knife and carve out that stupid tattoo you have on your ankle too. Lastly, please find out when the pig pen will be reopening so I can lay low in the mean time.


Building more bridges, Dano? :lol:


Of the 3 responses I had written, I went wth that one. It was the nicest. :lol: I hope she's not going to th MR show.
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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby Lula » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:33 am

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The fact that Jeremy sounds close to SP in his prime is NOT the point.

The point is...Journey is NOT in their prime anymore. Their PRIME is what they should be worried about PRESERVING!!!

Everything else they are doing just "waters down" their glorious past.

IMO...of course.

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Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:48 am

chf34jmac wrote:This is the same bunch of cocksuckers that 6 months from now will be pissing and moaning that " Jeremey got famous and became too good to talk to us" I wouldn't talk to your fat bloated fucking sorry asses either. Let the dude have his moment and reserve your judgments until you see and hear what's coming. I have no idea what to expect either but at least I'm willing to wait and see. Face it people PERRY AINT COMING BACK! The rest of the band, spineless pieces of shit that they are, are at least willing to continue to play for the fans that still want them around. Jeremey dude, ignore these assholes. Do what you deem the best move for your family. I've told you before, watch your back. If you are the man GOOD LUCK!


I second that. I wouldn't blame him if he never turned his computer on again. :(
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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby wildone » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:59 am

Lula wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
The fact that Jeremy sounds close to SP in his prime is NOT the point.

The point is...Journey is NOT in their prime anymore. Their PRIME is what they should be worried about PRESERVING!!!

Everything else they are doing just "waters down" their glorious past.

IMO...of course.

8)


Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).
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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby Saint John » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:29 am

Lula wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
The fact that Jeremy sounds close to SP in his prime is NOT the point.

The point is...Journey is NOT in their prime anymore. Their PRIME is what they should be worried about PRESERVING!!!

Everything else they are doing just "waters down" their glorious past.

IMO...of course.

8)


Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).



Good post. While I do agree with you, I'll continue to support Journey as long as Jeremey is fronting the band. Seeing him live out a lifelong dream will be cool. Fortunately, I distanced myself from Journey's members as people in 1998 after Friga ridiculed Perry and Schon laughed along. I had the chance to talk to them at a meet and greet and simply passed. They no longer interest me as humans, though I do still enjoy the concerts. They've lost their artistic genius, and that's what made them great in the first place. They should change their name. They no longer deserve it. It's disrespectful to Herbie, Rolie and most of all Perry. Those guys worked their asses.
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Wrong Key #

Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:18 am

Jeremy,

I noticed on at least two of your song's (Faithfully and Don't Stop Believin'), you and your band are playing them in the wrong key. Are you able to sing the songs in the original key or is this a limitation of your band? Just curious. If you are able to sing them in the original key, do you have any recordings so we can hear how those sound?
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Re: Wrong Key #

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:47 am

mrmusicman73 wrote:Jeremy,

I noticed on at least two of your song's (Faithfully and Don't Stop Believin'), you and your band are playing them in the wrong key. Are you able to sing the songs in the original key or is this a limitation of your band? Just curious. If you are able to sing them in the original key, do you have any recordings so we can hear how those sound?


uhh,, are you sure about this? what recordings are you speaking of where Frontiers plays them in a different key? ive never heard them play these songs or any other songs different than the album,, but DSB is an E shuffle thing, and Faithfully is a B thing,, works real nice over an Abmin scale,, yep,, you tube them ,, right on the money,,
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Re: Wrong Key #

Postby conversationpc » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:51 am

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mrmusicman73 wrote:Jeremy,

I noticed on at least two of your song's (Faithfully and Don't Stop Believin'), you and your band are playing them in the wrong key. Are you able to sing the songs in the original key or is this a limitation of your band? Just curious. If you are able to sing them in the original key, do you have any recordings so we can hear how those sound?


uhh,, are you sure about this? what recordings are you speaking of where Frontiers plays them in a different key? ive never heard them play these songs or any other songs different than the album,, but DSB is an E shuffle thing, and Faithfully is a B thing,, works real nice over an Abmin scale,, yep,, you tube them ,, right on the money,,


Yeah, I'd like to know where these tunes are that are in a different key. Haven't heard 'em myself.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:57 am

hey dave check out this rockin version of Faithfully (in original key i might add),,, i LOVE the
guitar sound BARRY gets out of this one, its heavy,, and his solo is different in places,, its a
mean version just like on GH live..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fj2H0lB6aU
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:00 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:hey dave check out this rockin version of Faithfully (in original key i might add),,, i LOVE the
guitar sound BARRY gets out of this one, its heavy,, and his solo is different in places,, its a
mean version just like on GH live..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fj2H0lB6aU


I'm not a big fan of the guitar playing on that version. Overall, that version is okay.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:09 am

conversationpc wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:hey dave check out this rockin version of Faithfully (in original key i might add),,, i LOVE the
guitar sound BARRY gets out of this one, its heavy,, and his solo is different in places,, its a
mean version just like on GH live..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fj2H0lB6aU


I'm not a big fan of the guitar playing on that version. Overall, that version is okay.

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:13 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:hey dave check out this rockin version of Faithfully (in original key i might add),,, i LOVE the
guitar sound BARRY gets out of this one, its heavy,, and his solo is different in places,, its a
mean version just like on GH live..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fj2H0lB6aU


I'm not a big fan of the guitar playing on that version. Overall, that version is okay.

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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:46 am

DITTO!

things would be SO different if they had shown jss just an ounce of respect when they decided to let him go. shitheads.

Lula wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
The fact that Jeremy sounds close to SP in his prime is NOT the point.

The point is...Journey is NOT in their prime anymore. Their PRIME is what they should be worried about PRESERVING!!!

Everything else they are doing just "waters down" their glorious past.

IMO...of course.

8)


Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).
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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby Playitloudforme » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:48 am

treetopovskaya wrote:DITTO!

things would be SO different if they had shown jss just an ounce of respect when they decided to let him go. shitheads.


Yup yup and YUP!
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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby FormerJrnyFan » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:52 am

Lula wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
The fact that Jeremy sounds close to SP in his prime is NOT the point.

The point is...Journey is NOT in their prime anymore. Their PRIME is what they should be worried about PRESERVING!!!

Everything else they are doing just "waters down" their glorious past.

IMO...of course.

8)


Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).
Great post, Lu!

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Postby AR » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:01 pm

Lula's post was spot on.

I know Jeremey. He is a great singer and a great guy. Had he been picked in 1998, I'd feel much better about things. If he gets the gig now, I wish him all the best. He can go live out his dream. I certainly don't blame him for chasing it.

That said, dumping Jeff was the epitome of blatant stupidity. Assine and classless. All the live reviews were glowing. They still had Deen to sing certain songs if they wanted something a little closer to the Perry vocal. But for fucks sake, Jeff was really channeling Perry (hate that term, but it applies) later on in the tour. Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.

Journey have disgraced themselves, not just by their poor judgement, but even moreso by the way it was all handled. Jeff is a stand up guy and just a good person. The stench of this mess will not go away anytime soon.
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Postby donnaplease » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:07 pm

AR wrote:Lula's post was spot on.

I know Jeremey. He is a great singer and a great guy. Had he been picked in 1998, I'd feel much better about things. If he gets the gig now, I wish him all the best. He can go live out his dream. I certainly don't blame him for chasing it.

That said, dumping Jeff was the epitome of blatant stupidity. Assine and classless. All the live reviews were glowing. They still had Deen to sing certain songs if they wanted something a little closer to the Perry vocal. But for fucks sake, Jeff was really channeling Perry (hate that term, but it applies) later on in the tour. Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.

Journey have disgraced themselves, not just by their poor judgement, but even moreso by the way it was all handled. Jeff is a stand up guy and just a good person. The stench of this mess will not go away anytime soon.


8) You got it, dude!!!! 8)
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:20 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:hey dave check out this rockin version of Faithfully (in original key i might add),,, i LOVE the
guitar sound BARRY gets out of this one, its heavy,, and his solo is different in places,, its a
mean version just like on GH live..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fj2H0lB6aU


I'm not Dave, but I enjoyed it anyway. Thanks for posting it.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:18 pm

AR wrote:Lula's post was spot on.

I know Jeremey. He is a great singer and a great guy. Had he been picked in 1998, I'd feel much better about things. If he gets the gig now, I wish him all the best. He can go live out his dream. I certainly don't blame him for chasing it.

That said, dumping Jeff was the epitome of blatant stupidity. Assine and classless. All the live reviews were glowing. They still had Deen to sing certain songs if they wanted something a little closer to the Perry vocal. But for fucks sake, Jeff was really channeling Perry (hate that term, but it applies) later on in the tour. Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.

Journey have disgraced themselves, not just by their poor judgement, but even moreso by the way it was all handled. Jeff is a stand up guy and just a good person. The stench of this mess will not go away anytime soon.


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Re: For Those Of You Who Don't Know Jeremey

Postby Crazie Scarab » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:56 pm

[quote="Lula]
Having a weak moment..... told myself I was done wit this shit, but I like this opinion. My whole thing with what has happened, besides the chicken shit way Jeff was treated, is the lack of inspiration being shown. There was promise of new music that would clearly be Journey and have signature sounds, but away from Steve Perry. Steve Augeri had to kick the guys in the ass to get in the studio and the result was a sub par record. We all saw the renewed life, the energy that Jeff spread infecting the band and audience, what the hell happened? Clearly the reviews received of the band's performance during Jeff's brief tenure have been forgotten. A bunch of cowards running back to the safety of Steve Perry, but this time it is an even bigger joke. The legacy of a great band is being ridiculed by their current actions. And let's get this straight- no one sounds like Steve Perry other than the man himself, everything else is just an impression. If Journey are content with trying to duplicate their past so be it..... I am disappointed as a hard core fan, but I guess I'm not the targeted audience since I won't be fooled by their pathetic charade (could go on here, but enough).[/quote]

Nice post. I whole-heartedly agree!
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:01 pm

AR wrote:Lula's post was spot on.

I know Jeremey. He is a great singer and a great guy. Had he been picked in 1998, I'd feel much better about things. If he gets the gig now, I wish him all the best. He can go live out his dream. I certainly don't blame him for chasing it.

That said, dumping Jeff was the epitome of blatant stupidity. Assine and classless. All the live reviews were glowing. They still had Deen to sing certain songs if they wanted something a little closer to the Perry vocal. But for fucks sake, Jeff was really channeling Perry (hate that term, but it applies) later on in the tour. Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.

Journey have disgraced themselves, not just by their poor judgement, but even moreso by the way it was all handled. Jeff is a stand up guy and just a good person. The stench of this mess will not go away anytime soon.


Couldn't agree more! I never thought I would be one to say "Journey sucks," but I do now. My brother about shit when I said that last weekend. He know's I've been a BIG Journey fan since 1978!
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Re: Wrong Key #

Postby mrmusicman73 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:26 pm

mrmusicman73 wrote:Jeremy,

I noticed on at least two of your song's (Faithfully and Don't Stop Believin'), you and your band are playing them in the wrong key. Are you able to sing the songs in the original key or is this a limitation of your band? Just curious. If you are able to sing them in the original key, do you have any recordings so we can hear how those sound?


Jeremey,

My apologies, after doing some more listening back and forth and comparing with my Kurzwiel, I determined that you are playing in the correct key. It turns out the version of "Faithfully" I was listening to for comparision was actually not in the right key, which was Perry's Memphis live version, it is tuned down.

For "Don't Stop Believin'" it is in the same key but it is being played different or the recording made it sound different than the original.Can't quite put my finger on it, but it is different.

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Postby KCfla » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:28 am

AR wrote:Lula's post was spot on.

I know Jeremey. He is a great singer and a great guy. Had he been picked in 1998, I'd feel much better about things. If he gets the gig now, I wish him all the best. He can go live out his dream. I certainly don't blame him for chasing it.

That said, dumping Jeff was the epitome of blatant stupidity. Assine and classless. All the live reviews were glowing. They still had Deen to sing certain songs if they wanted something a little closer to the Perry vocal. But for fucks sake, Jeff was really channeling Perry (hate that term, but it applies) later on in the tour. Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.

Journey have disgraced themselves, not just by their poor judgement, but even moreso by the way it was all handled. Jeff is a stand up guy and just a good person. The stench of this mess will not go away anytime soon.


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Postby Aaron » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:44 am

AR,

I'm with you most of the time but not on this one. I was at Indy last year and JSS was not completely accepted by that crowd, including me. There were very puzzled faces during the first few Journey songs. Granted, Indy was early in the tour, but this was not the case at that show. Ask RaiderFan what he thinks, he was there.

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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:45 am

Aaron wrote:AR,

I'm with you most of the time but not on this one. I was at Indy last year and JSS was not completely accepted by that crowd, including me. There were very puzzled faces during the first few Journey songs. Granted, Indy was early in the tour, but this was not the case at that show. Ask RaiderFan what he thinks, he was there.

L8r,

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AR wrote: Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.


I was eight rows from the stage and the crowd really appeared into it to me.
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Postby Aaron » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:01 am

Cool Dave. The folks around me took a few songs to warm up but did in the end I think. It sure seemed to be struggle to me up front though. Any others that were there?

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Aaron wrote:AR,

I'm with you most of the time but not on this one. I was at Indy last year and JSS was not completely accepted by that crowd, including me. There were very puzzled faces during the first few Journey songs. Granted, Indy was early in the tour, but this was not the case at that show. Ask RaiderFan what he thinks, he was there.

L8r,

Aaron

AR wrote: Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.


I was eight rows from the stage and the crowd really appeared into it to me.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:21 am

Aaron wrote:Cool Dave. The folks around me took a few songs to warm up but did in the end I think. It sure seemed to be struggle to me up front though. Any others that were there?

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Aaron wrote:AR,

I'm with you most of the time but not on this one. I was at Indy last year and JSS was not completely accepted by that crowd, including me. There were very puzzled faces during the first few Journey songs. Granted, Indy was early in the tour, but this was not the case at that show. Ask RaiderFan what he thinks, he was there.

L8r,

Aaron

AR wrote: Jeff can sing anything and was completely accepted by the crowds on the tour.


I was eight rows from the stage and the crowd really appeared into it to me.



The show I was at you could hear a pin drop after Message Of Love and he never really got the crowd into it, BUT it was about 75% Def Laeppard. Their set was electric.
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