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Postby Muggins » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:09 pm

Do you think he might be referring to Journey regarding one of those bands that used backing tracks prior to JSS!!!

AEROSMITH have been given a huge boost by QUEEN guitarist BRIAN MAY, who is raving about the U.S. rockers on his website.

May caught Aerosmith onstage at the Hyde Park Calling festival at the weekend (23Jun07) and admits their performance made him realise there's still "greatness" and "passion" in rock 'n' roll. May writes: "There is so much fake stuff around these days, people short-cutting, not knowing their trade, having no respect for their audience... and in many cases feeding all recorded stuff from hard disc into the PA, for their fans to listen to. "Sometimes you are really listening to an entire pre-record - like a crap TV mime show brought into an arena or a stadium. Sometimes recently I have felt ashamed of my business. "But Aerosmith brought back the smile to my face - brought back pride to me - these guys remind us that there is still greatness out there... There is still a band that is all real, and full of passion, and innovation, and courage, and brick-loads of polish too. "These guys have been to the wall and back, and it shows. Each one of them has devoted his life to his craft... I loved every second. The most joyous thing about them is that they did NOT become SHOW-BIZ - they did NOT lose their roots. They are still treading that fine line between structure and improvisation."

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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:21 pm

I'm not so sure Brian's talking about Journey but who knows. Anyway, he was also raving about Journey's show from a few months ago as well.
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Postby *Laura » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:00 pm

conversationpc wrote:Anyway, he was also raving about Journey's show from a few months ago as well.

And rightfully so!What he saw was an energized live band! :)

Who knows who he's reffering to when he talks about pre-recorded stuff...The list of bands is pretty long I guess.And pre-JSS Journey's on it.
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Re: Brain May on backing tracks!

Postby nikki » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:07 pm

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"having no respect for their audience... Sometimes recently I have felt ashamed of my business."


If I had to pick a part of Brian's review that could've been a slight reference to Journey, I'd have to pick this. Journey's been a huge disappointment to us all lately, but Aerosmith should be really pleased to get such great kudos from an outstanding peer like Brian. Now I want to go to an Aerosmith concert!!
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Re: Brain May on backing tracks!

Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:03 am

Citrus wrote:May writes: "There is so much fake stuff around these days, people short-cutting, not knowing their trade, having no respect for their audience... and in many cases feeding all recorded stuff from hard disc into the PA, for their fans to listen to. "Sometimes you are really listening to an entire pre-record - like a crap TV mime show brought into an arena or a stadium. Sometimes recently I have felt ashamed of my business."


Hmmmm....could it be because of ULTRA BULLSHIT ACTS like THIS.....???? :roll: :evil: :x
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:22 am

What is May, mr speaker of the house, giving state of the union addresses on rock every week now?


Shut up, already.
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Postby KCfla » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:55 am

Look JoePa, I know it's Monday. And none of us like Mondays. :wink: But have another coffee and think about it a minute....

But the reason people look at/to what Brian says is because he is an extremely intellegent, articulate person "who knows what of he speaks". If it were you or I commenting on the "state of the Music Business", we could be blown off with no problems.

But Brian has been there, done that, and been the one to sell all those flippin' T-Shirts! 8)

So his thoughts on the "biz" carry a bit more weight, so to speak, than anything you or I could come up with on a good day.

Speaking of which- have one on me- a good day that is :wink:
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:59 am

Red13JoePa wrote:What is May, mr speaker of the house, giving state of the union addresses on rock every week now?


Shut up, already.


So far, I've enjoyed reading what he has to say.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:00 am

KCfla wrote:Look JoePa, I know it's Monday. And none of us like Mondays. :wink: But have another coffee and think about it a minute....




its his avatar,, its hollering,, if he used this one then all of his posts would be peeerrrttyy... :wink:

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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:05 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
KCfla wrote:Look JoePa, I know it's Monday. And none of us like Mondays. :wink: But have another coffee and think about it a minute....




its his avatar,, its hollering,, if he used this one then all of his posts would be peeerrrttyy... :wink:

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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:10 am

Red13JoePa wrote:What is May, mr speaker of the house, giving state of the union addresses on rock every week now?


Shut up, already.


I love the guy and love that he's asserted this position - someone HAS to!

He's defined the difference bewtween art and shit (which is what I've tried to do here unsuccessfully). The difference between craft and crap. I think he does a FINE job of that.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:10 am

KCfla wrote:Look JoePa, I know it's Monday. And none of us like Mondays. So his thoughts on the "biz" carry a bit more weight, so to speak, than anything you or I could come up with on a good day.


I'm still going to be annoyed by Brian May shooting his trap off all the time tommorrow.
His thoughts on the biz carry exactly ZERO more weight than mine, yours, or Reardon's.


The hell does that guy know about Journey?
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Postby Wheels Of Fyre » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:11 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
KCfla wrote:Look JoePa, I know it's Monday. And none of us like Mondays. So his thoughts on the "biz" carry a bit more weight, so to speak, than anything you or I could come up with on a good day.


I'm still going to be annoyed by Brian May shooting his trap off all the time tommorrow.
His thoughts on the biz carry exactly ZERO more weight than mine, yours, or Reardon's.


The hell does that guy know about Journey?


He's speaking from the point of when you HAD to be good LIVE in order to get a record deal. He's speaking from the point of what it means to be an ARTIST.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:17 am

I don't care, Latin Journey.

I'm over hearing "What I Think Sucks About Other Bands"---by May every 3.57 days.
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Postby Moon Beam » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:19 am

Personally I love JoePa smiling.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:21 am

Moon Beam wrote:Personally I love JoePa smiling.



Sometimes I don't have my teeth in so I read annoying crap and get like this: :x :evil:
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:33 am

For the record, Journey still used backing tapes even with JSS. It was kinda funny too, because it'd be Jeff singing leads and fake Augeri singing harmonies on a tape.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:37 am

I've got NO problem with a band using them as backing to fatten it up a little bit.

Big monster gang choruses like Ask The Lonely, it always sounds pretty tapey no matter what era we're lisening to.

JSS is a flat stud, though, and needed no help on his leads....hell he used to come in here and admit it if he whiffed on a note or 2 (which on the 5 boots I have was not often all. Can't mistake not sounding a lot like Perry for bad patches, either).
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Postby Moon Beam » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:37 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:Personally I love JoePa smiling.



Sometimes I don't have my teeth in so I read annoying crap and get like this: :x :evil:



:lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:55 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
I'm still going to be annoyed by Brian May shooting his trap off all the time tommorrow.
His thoughts on the biz carry exactly ZERO more weight than mine, yours, or Reardon's.


The hell does that guy know about Journey?



Zero more weight than any of ours? Besides being a legendary guitarist in a legendary rock act, you're right, he has no more clout to talk about the music world than you or I do. I love when stars interact with their fans or speak their minds on the net, whether it's JSS posting on forums, Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater posting on his forum, or Brian speaking his mind.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:57 am

He's signing the praises of Aerosmith for keeping it real meanwhile people on this very site have said they've witnessed Tyler be swarmed by fans onstage, his microphone goes flying and yet the Ragdoll lead vocals come through the PA unmolested.
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:13 am

When did he post this comment?
Was it within the past 24 hours (even though he saw the Aerosmith show a week or so ago)???
The reason I ask...

Did anyone watch the Princess Di Concert yesterday???
I only watched the first hour or so and, I gotta say,
it 'looked' and DEFINITELY 'sounded' like Duran Duran
were playing to about 80% pre-recorded tracks.

From John Taylor's Bass lines to Guitar-Player-Whoever's riffs, right
on up to some of Simon LeBon's Vocals...
What I was hearing most of the time was not matching up
with what I was 'seeing' and it wasn't something as simple
as the video/audio signals being out of sync...
There was some MAJOR Lipping/Air Guitar-Bass going on...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:23 am

Say it ain't so, Hackman.

Instead of "Play 'at Fookin' Bass John" it's "Play 'at Fookin' Tape, Soundman?" :shock:
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:28 am

I dunno, I saw a little bit of "White Boys" and Simon sounded pretty mediocre, so I doubt it was a tape.

I'm sure they play along to a click with some sequenced stuff though, just because of the nature of DD's music.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did something like this for a worldwide televised event though, after what happened during "View To A Kill" at Live Aid...I wonder if Simon is still terrified of singing on TV just from that one note.
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Postby Món » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:30 am

Journey (and a whole lot other bands, actually) use pre-recorded choruses and sequences.

That's what Jon's lap top on his piano's for.

He triggers all the stuff from there.

Rush uses an "extra" key player right beside the engineer in the front mix.

I had the chance to see him "perform".

One finger notes! Too funny. :)
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:31 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:From John Taylor's Bass lines to Guitar-Player-Whoever's riffs, right
on up to some of Simon LeBon's Vocals...
What I was hearing most of the time was not matching up
with what I was 'seeing' ...


dude, you were just sitting too far back,, :wink:
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:35 am

WalrusOct9 wrote:I dunno, I saw a little bit of "White Boys" and Simon sounded pretty mediocre, so I doubt it was a tape.

I'm sure they play along to a click with some sequenced stuff though, just because of the nature of DD's music.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did something like this for a worldwide televised event though, after what happened during "View To A Kill" at Live Aid...I wonder if Simon is still terrified of singing on TV just from that one note.


I know they got the usual sequenced fillers and BG vox going...
That's a given, especially on "Wild Boys". I don't have a problem
with that...

But, for example, take the "Rio" performance.
During the sax solo, Taylor plays a bass riff (that I've always loved)
and they got cameras on him... There was NO WAY he was 'playing'
the riff we were 'hearing'. Make sense?
And I saw things like that throughout the performance.

I actually LOVE Duran Duran but am using them as an example
of how bad it could be getting in the industry with this stuff.
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